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Christianity EtcRe: Should I, As A Christian Pay Tithe? by Akin1212(m): 7:52pm On Dec 01, 2017
OkaiCorne:
I know you'll be here grin

This brings me back to our talk on priorities....

Should tithes be the number 1 priority in our life? At the expense of food, clothing and shelter?

Did widows and orphans pay tithes back in those days?
How far Bro.
Christianity EtcRe: Should I, As A Christian Pay Tithe? by Akin1212(m): 7:50pm On Dec 01, 2017
bloodofthelamb:
INCEST IS A SIN BECAUSE THE LAW OF GOD SAYS SO. BUT THE LAW CANNOT STOP US FROM SINNING.

WHY IS IT SO? IT IS, BECAUSE WE ARE SINNERS AND TRANSGRESSORS BY NATURE...

IT IS JUST LIKE YOU MAKING A LAW PROHIBITING BIRDS FROM FLYING, THREATENING THEM WITH DEATH, IF THEY DO... IS IT POSSIBLE FOR THEM TO KEEP TO THAT LAW? KNOWING TOO WELL, THAT IT IS AGAINST THEIR NATURE.

MANKIND BY NATURE IS LAWLESS AND MILLIONS OF LAW AND REGULATION CANNOT CHANGE THAT... GOD KNEW IT THAT IS WHY HE SENT HIS SON, SO THAT THROUGH HIM WE MIGHT HAVE A NEW NATURE, THAT WILL ENABLE US WALK IN RIGHTEOUSNESS WITHOUT ANY LAW.

Is incest a sin? How did Adam and his Family reproduce all of us then?

When God wiped the world clean and left Noah and his Family, how did they reproduce the rest of us?

Maybe God didn't plan it or didn't care about how it happened. But later declared it a sin.

SHALOM!
Christianity EtcRe: 15 Questions For Evolutionists - Creation.com by Akin1212(m):
Post was too long, so I had to split it into 2

hermosa7:
Question 10: How do ‘living fossils’ remain unchanged over supposed hundreds of millions of years, if evolution has changed worms into humans in the same time frame?

Professor Gould wrote, “the maintenance of stability within species must be considered as a major evolutionary problem.”
Evolution is not a single event. Humans have evolved. The humans who lived 5 thousand years ago are completely different from those who are living now. Intelligence has evolved, shapes and structures have evolved among a host of other surviving features. But what is 5 thousand years or hundreds of millions of years to billions? You cannot experience evolution, my brother, your future generations will measure it.

hermosa7:
Question 11: How did blind chemistry create mind/intelligence, meaning, altruism and morality?

If everything evolved, and we invented God, as per evolutionary teaching, what purpose or meaning is there to human life? Should students be learning nihilism (life is meaningless) in science classes?
Students should be told the truth. You came from nowhere, you can't tell me where you came from before birth, you don't remember anything. When you die, you will return back to that state. Nothing.

But for the purpose of living and enjoying it, students should be taught to live well and happy and make others happy too, and you don't need God to do that.

hermosa7:
Question 12: Why is evolutionary ‘just-so’ story-telling tolerated?

Evolutionists often use flexible story-telling to ‘explain’ observations contrary to evolutionary theory. NAS(USA) member Dr Philip Skell wrote, “Darwinian explanations for such things are often too supple: Natural selection makes humans self-centered and aggressive—except when it makes them altruistic and peaceable. Or natural selection produces virile men who eagerly spread their seed—except when it prefers men who are faithful protectors and providers. When an explanation is so supple that it can explain any behavior, it is difficult to test it experimentally, much less use it as a catalyst for scientific discovery.”8
You can't help it, it's the truth. You don't accept it doesn't mean that's not the way it is.

If I have a bottle of water and we are both in a hot desert, do you think I will give you a drop of water? It takes a reasoning mind to think this through.

hermosa7:
Question 13: Where are the scientific breakthroughs due to evolution?

Dr Marc Kirschner, chair of the Department of Systems Biology, Harvard Medical School, stated: “In fact, over the last 100 years, almost all of biology has proceeded independent of evolution, except evolutionary biology itself. Molecular biology, biochemistry, physiology, have not taken evolution into account at all.”9 Dr Skell wrote, “It is our knowledge of how these organisms actually operate, not speculations about how they may have arisen millions of years ago, that is essential to doctors, veterinarians, farmers … .”10 Evolution actually hinders medical discovery.11 Then why do schools and universities teach evolution so dogmatically, stealing time from experimental biology that so benefits humankind?
The best question to ask here is does evolution need any innovations or breakthroughs?

For goodness sake, evolution is a study that is based on how we got here and not where we are going... You need to understand that.

It seems you and the author of these questions are in the dark of what evolution is all about. Go and do some reading, please.

hermosa7:
Question 14: Science involves experimenting to figure out how things work; how they operate. Why is evolution, a theory about history, taught as if it is the same as this operational science?

You cannot do experiments, or even observe what happened, in the past. Asked if evolution has been observed, Richard Dawkins said, “Evolution has been observed. It’s just that it hasn’t been observed while it’s happening.”
Richard Dawkins is right, evolution is a slow process. A kid in the USA is typically and naturally smarter than a kid in Nigeria. Why? Evolution

hermosa7:
Question 15: Why is a fundamentally religious idea, a dogmatic belief system that fails to explain the evidence, taught in science classes?

Karl Popper, famous philosopher of science, said “Darwinism is not a testable scientific theory, but a metaphysical [religious] research programme ….”13 Michael Ruse, evolutionist science philosopher admitted, “Evolution is a religion. This was true of evolution in the beginning, and it is true of evolution still today.”14 If “you can’t teach religion in science classes”, why is evolution taught?

Source: https://creation.com/15-questions-for-evolutionists
Because a religious philosopher of science says something about evolution does not make it valid. And besides, evolution takes billions of years to see a measurable effect or change at all. Nobody can live long enough to study it. But the effects are seen and measured.

If religion, things about creation was to be taught in classes, how will Seun learn to code or write programming languages to build Nairaland that you and I are using today? From the book of Isaiah?
Christianity EtcRe: Pastor Mathew Ashimolowo Blasts Daddy Freeze For Teaching Against Tithing VIDEO by Akin1212(m): 6:35pm On Dec 01, 2017
hisgrace090:
Dady freez may be called to preach against tithe collection, which is a very difficult task.

You can see for yourselves what he is going through already for daring to preach it.

He dares the undarrable.
Who are the undarrables? Ogun punish all of them.
CelebritiesRe: Daddy Freeze Celebrates Benedicta Elechi, His Baby Mama Amid Tithe Drama by Akin1212(m): 6:15pm On Dec 01, 2017
PointZerom:
We're talking from the Bible perspective which freeze says we should follow. Leave Muslims alone.
And if you are talking from the Bible perspective alone, why talk about baby mamas?

Despite that, you don't even have any evidence for it.
CelebritiesRe: Daddy Freeze Celebrates Benedicta Elechi, His Baby Mama Amid Tithe Drama by Akin1212(m): 4:57pm On Dec 01, 2017
PointZerom:
Your question is irritating, your daddy freeze said that the disciples didn't pay tithe in the Bible so Christains should not pay.


What about Baby mama, did the apostles have baby mamas?.
Lol, my brother why are you doing this to yourself?

You can only ask about baby mamas if it is related to Christians alone. Muslims also do have baby mamas but do they pay tithes? Think bro, think. Stop bringing up straw man arguments.
Christianity EtcRe: 15 Questions For Evolutionists - Creation.com by Akin1212(m):
I am going to make it very simple

hermosa7:
15 Questions for Evolutionists


Question 1: How did life originate?

Evolutionist Professor Paul Davies admitted, “Nobody knows how a mixture of lifeless chemicals spontaneously organized themselves into the first living cell.”1 Andrew Knoll, professor of biology, Harvard, said, “we don’t really know how life originated on this planet”.2 A minimal cell needs several hundred proteins. Even if every atom in the universe were an experiment with all the correct amino acids present for every possible molecular vibration in the supposed evolutionary age of the universe, not even one average-sized functional protein would form. So how did life with hundreds of proteins originate just by chemistry without intelligent design?
Let me start by introducing myself as a Biochemist, so I am not assuming what I will be typing here. I have studied it and I know it. Biochemistry is the study of life at the molecular level.

The origin of life is a process known as Abiogenesis or biopoiesis. It is the natural process by which life arises from non-living matter (Wikipedia)

One question that needs to be asked is that what is life itself? From a biochemical perspective, life is nothing more than the ability to use oxygen to power biochemical(Carbon and Hydrogen) combustions. In the absence of this gas(oxygen), there can be no life.

In essence, we (you and I) are just an aggregation of chemicals(non-living matter) using oxygen.

Now the formation of life is not a single event, it is a gradual process that takes billions of years. And the formation of life was coded for by either RNA or DNA which I will explain below.

And to corroborate the Abiogenesis evidence, all animal cells including humans have been examined and found to have the same constituents and organelles except for little differences which accounts for Evolution.

And with regards to Professor Andrew that you quoted above, I'm glad to tell you that he abused knowledge. and here is my proof.

"The classic Miller–Urey experiment and similar research demonstrated that most amino acids, the basic chemical constituents of the proteins used in all living organisms, can be synthesized from inorganic compounds under conditions intended to replicate those of the early Earth. Various external sources of energy that may have triggered these reactions have been proposed, including lightning and radiation. Other approaches ("metabolism-first" hypotheses) focus on understanding how catalysis in chemical systems on the early Earth might have provided the precursor molecules necessary for self-replication.[20] Complex organic molecules have been found in the Solar System and in interstellar space, and these molecules may have provided starting material for the development of life on Earth"


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abiogenesis#Earliest_biological_evidence_for_life

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hermosa7:
Question 2: How did the DNA code originate?

The code is a sophisticated language system with letters and words where the meaning of the words is unrelated to the chemical properties of the letters—just as the information on this page is not a product of the chemical properties of the ink (or pixels on a screen). What other coding system has existed without intelligent design? How did the DNA coding system arise without it being created? The genetic information code points to an intelligent source.
This is another abuse of knowledge. It is ignorant and barbaric to assume that letters should have chemical properties.

The DNA, deoxyribonucleic acid is a complex molecule that carries the genetic instructions used in the growth, development, functioning, and reproduction of all known living organisms and many viruses.

Before the big bang, Energy has always existed. The DNA contains chemicals, all connected and joined by chemical bonds(energy). The energy that has always existed bonded chemicals together, chemicals like Nitrogen, Hydrogen, Carbon, and Oxygen.

The DNA code is just letters representation for the Nitrogenous bases of DNA namely, Adenine, Guanine. Thymine, and Cytosine. A,G,T,C.
These Nitrogenous bases are arranged in sequences in the DNA molecule, so to make writing the sequences out on paper, the coding was invented for easiness. You need to understand something before talking ill about it. Don't abuse knowledge

hermosa7:
Question 3: How could mutations—accidental copying mistakes (DNA ‘letters’ exchanged, deleted or added, genes duplicated, chromosome inversions, etc.)—create the huge volumes of information in the DNA of living things?

How could such errors create 3 billion letters of DNA information to change a microbe into a microbiologist? There is information for how to make proteins but also for controlling their use—much like a cookbook contains the ingredients as well as the instructions for how and when to use them. One without the other is useless. See: Meta-information: An impossible conundrum for evolution. Mutations are known for their destructive effects, including over 1,000 human diseases such as hemophilia. Rarely are they even helpful. But how can scrambling existing DNA information create a new biochemical pathway or nano-machines with many components, to make ‘goo-to-you’ evolution possible? E.g., How did a 32-component rotary motor like ATP synthase (which produces the energy currency, ATP, for all life), or robots like kinesin (a ‘postman’ delivering parcels inside cells) originate?
Mutation is the permanent alteration of the nucleotide sequence of the genome of an organism, virus, or extrachromosomal DNA or other genetic elements. These nucleotide sequences(DNA) are part of the gene, and if when replaced by mutagenic substances, we have varieties. These varieties can, however, be transferred to offsprings.

For example, if your wife has blue eyes by mutation, and you have a black eye normally. When you have a child, if your wife donated the dominant gene of her blue eyes and you donated the recessive gene of your black eyes, my brother your child will have blue eyes. it is an undisputed fact and not assumptions. And your son will have permanent blue eyes and can also pass it down generations that will come after him.

You should wonder why we have people with different heights and shape of nose, resemblance, skin colour, albinism, hemophilia etc etc etc.
Or did God create albino and people whose blood cannot clot?

And to answer your main question, such errors can change a whole DNA OVER A LONG PERIOD OF TIME, considering the fact that the environment the DNA is subjected is constantly changing. I answered you in (1), I said it is a gradual change, it takes billions of years. Do you know how to count years? If yes, then you should know what a 1000 years is, talk more of a billion. It's like forever.

Not all mutation cases are destructive, that's barbaric again. Let's take for instance Albinism. What is destructive about Albinism? Your question only raised hemophilia as the destructive one, what about the one that makes some humans tastes better?

"For example, a specific 32 base pair deletion in human CCR5 (CCR5-Δ32) confers HIV resistance to homozygotes and delays AIDS onset in heterozygotes.[104] One possible explanation of the etiology of the relatively high frequency of CCR5-Δ32 in the European population is that it conferred resistance to the bubonic plague in mid-14th century Europe. People with this mutation were more likely to survive infection; thus its frequency in the population increased.[105] This theory could explain why this mutation is not found in Southern Africa, which remained untouched by bubonic plague. A newer theory suggests that the selective pressure on the CCR5 Delta 32 mutation was caused by smallpox instead of the bubonic plague.[106]"


hermosa7:
Question 4: Why is natural selection, a principle recognized by creationists, taught as ‘evolution’, as if it explains the origin of the diversity of life?

By definition it is a selective process (selecting from already existing information), so is not a creative process. It might explain the survival of the fittest (why certain genes benefit creatures more in certain environments), but not the arrival of the fittest (where the genes and creatures came from in the first place). The death of individuals not adapted to an environment and the survival of those that are suited does not explain the origin of the traits that make an organism adapted to an environment. E.g., how do minor back-and-forth variations in finch beaks explain the origin of beaks or finches? How does natural selection explain goo-to-you evolution?

Everyone recognizes design in a glass vase, but evolutionists refuse to believe that the flowers in the vase must also have been designed. The problem is not that they do not show design, but that they show too much design.
Natural selection is not taught as evolution. Where the hell did you get these questions from? The person who asked them is strikingly ignorant.

Natural selection is a theory proposed by another scientist. Natural selection is however taught to contribute to evolution, not that it is evolution.

Natural selection is the differential survival and reproduction of individuals due to differences in phenotype
WHILE
Evolution is a change in heritable characteristics over a period of successive generations. Are we clear?

The bolded above in your question is a fallacy. Adaptation is a means of survival, if 10 of us can taste acid in water and 10 others cannot taste the acid. Those who cannot taste the acid will drink and die. And the 10 of us who can, will pass on the gene to taste acid to pur children and they will not die. They will be naturally selected to live in that environment. Simple.

Still answering, please don't respond yet. I was busy but I will try to make it fast now.

hermosa7:
Question 5: How did new biochemical pathways, which involve multiple enzymes working together in sequence, originate?

Every pathway and nano-machine requires multiple protein/enzyme components to work. How did lucky accidents create even one of the components, let alone 10 or 20 or 30 at the same time, often in a necessary programmed sequence. Evolutionary biochemist Franklin Harold wrote, “we must concede that there are presently no detailed Darwinian accounts of the evolution of any biochemical or cellular system, only a variety of wishful speculations.”3
No theory predicted that pathways were caused or created by lucky accidents. The source of these questions must be deluded or plainly stupid.

A biochemical pathway is a definite way of chemicals interacting with one another. Like the conversions macromolecules like proteins, carbohydrates, and lipids to smaller molecules like amino acids, glucose, and fatty acids.

Do not be deceived by the ignorants who don't understand science or not enough to make a claim.

The enzymes were coded for by the DNA in our body. When we find ourselves in an environment that we are not used to, our body adjusts and mechanism are put in place to make us adapt. For example, lactose intolerance. Some people can digest lactose found in milk while others cannot digest it. Did God give some people lactase and did not give others? Hell no, after all, we were all created in his image and so we should all have the same enzymes. Again science explains this phenomenon perfectly with evolution, natural selection, mutation etc etc etc.

Evolution is not wishful thinking, and evolution has gone beyond Darwin's theory. Creationism, othe the hand, is the wishful thinking here.


hermosa7:
Question 6: Living things look like they were designed, so how do evolutionists know that they were not designed?

Richard Dawkins wrote, “biology is the study of complicated things that have the appearance of having been designed with a purpose.” Francis Crick, the co-discoverer of the double helix structure of DNA, wrote, “Biologists must constantly keep in mind that what they see was not designed, but rather evolved.” The problem for evolutionists is that living things show too much design. Who objects when an archaeologist says that pottery points to human design? Yet if someone attributes the design in living things to a designer, that is not acceptable. Why should science be restricted to naturalistic causes rather than logical causes?
Living things are aggregates of chemicals, conscious only by the interactions of those chemicals with one another in definite patterns. There is no design here. Do humans look intelligently designed to you? They don't to me. Living things only possess what they need to survive. If you'd ask me, I'll prefer humans to have wings to fly. Didn't the creator know that we would one day need to travel to the USA from Nigeria, and hence give us wings to fly? But what we need is what we have, there's no intelligence involved.

Francis Crick has said it all, we were not designed, we evolved. However, he didn't mean we're not structured by nature, he meant there was no intelligent designer. And Richard Dawkins has not negated or contradicted him. The only purpose of our structures and way of life is to survive. Richard Dawkins is also an atheist, so don't get it twisted there.

And as a matter of fact, all apes have the same design as humans, so what?


hermosa7:
Question 7: How did multi-cellular life originate?

How did cells adapted to individual survival ‘learn’ to cooperate and specialize (including undergoing programmed cell death) to create complex plants and animals?
By cell fusion.

hermosa7:
Question 8: How did sex originate?

Asexual reproduction gives up to twice as much reproductive success (‘fitness’) for the same resources as sexual reproduction, so how could the latter ever gain enough advantage to be selected? And how could mere physics and chemistry invent the complementary apparatuses needed at the same time (non-intelligent processes cannot plan for future coordination of male and female organs). The horseshoe crab is one of thousands of organisms living today that show little change from their ‘deep time’ fossils. In the supposed ‘200 million’ years that the horseshoe crab has remained unchanged (no evolution), virtually all reptiles, dinosaurs, birds, mammals and flowering plants have supposedly evolved.
As a matter of fact, complexity gave rise to the formation of sexual organs. Complex life cannot arise from asexual reproduction.

If sex is planned by intelligent beings, then why do we have hermaphrodites, transexuals among other types of sex? Or do you think we only have males and females in the world?

hermosa7:
Question 9: Why are the (expected) countless millions of transitional fossils missing?

Darwin noted the problem and it still remains. The evolutionary family trees in textbooks are based on imagination, not fossil evidence. Famous Harvard paleontologist (and evolutionist), Stephen Jay Gould, wrote, “The extreme rarity of transitional forms in the fossil record persists as the trade secret of paleontology”. Other evolutionist fossil experts also acknowledge the problem.
During Darwin's time, there were unfound fossil records, but thousands of them have been found. Please use credible science website to verify this.

However, millions of fossil records have been found that disputed the creationist theory, and there's no going back on evolution.
CelebritiesRe: Daddy Freeze Celebrates Benedicta Elechi, His Baby Mama Amid Tithe Drama by Akin1212(m): 4:14pm On Dec 01, 2017
PointZerom:
If you don't have something reasonable to ask Pls goan rest.
Is the answer not coming forth? I understand why.
CelebritiesRe: Daddy Freeze Celebrates Benedicta Elechi, His Baby Mama Amid Tithe Drama by Akin1212(m): 4:05pm On Dec 01, 2017
PointZerom:
Do you need a pain killer?


Pls who taught your daddy freeze about Baby mama.
Did daddy Freeze teach on baby mamas? Don't avoid the question
CelebritiesRe: Daddy Freeze Celebrates Benedicta Elechi, His Baby Mama Amid Tithe Drama by Akin1212(m): 3:52pm On Dec 01, 2017
PointZerom:
You follow his teachings with reference from the Bible?

Did the Bible say we should have baby mama?.
Did Daddy Freeze teach on baby mamas? Why are you people(Christians) always fond of straw man arguments?
CelebritiesRe: Daddy Freeze Celebrates Benedicta Elechi, His Baby Mama Amid Tithe Drama by Akin1212(m): 3:47pm On Dec 01, 2017
wealth2al:
My dear, Nigeria is one place where a man that cant pay a woman`s dowry will be attacking men of GOD and people ordain by satan will be supporting him. YES, some of the men of God may be doing some things in an in-correct way; but who is this man to judge them?

What Bible college did he attended?

When did he become a Christian?

How many times has he read the bible from cover to cover?

WHAT A FUNNY COUNTRY!!!
So the payment of DOWRY validates and qualifies people for attacking Pastors(scammers)?

You know what? The country is not funny at all, the people living in the country are, and you are one of them
CelebritiesRe: Daddy Freeze Celebrates Benedicta Elechi, His Baby Mama Amid Tithe Drama by Akin1212(m): 3:34pm On Dec 01, 2017
Acidosis:
Christianity is doomed, fine. But I will be in Church today and Sunday and I will pay my tithe.


grin
Because you want to make your pastor richer doesn't mean it is still not doomed.
CelebritiesRe: Daddy Freeze Celebrates Benedicta Elechi, His Baby Mama Amid Tithe Drama by Akin1212(m): 3:26pm On Dec 01, 2017
Acidosis:
China banned some Christian activities because they wanted their own indigenous religion to thrive. They were scared of competition from the West. The Chinese government didn't ban religion in its entirety.
This is nothing but one of those lies you pained atheists use in consolidating your inadequacies.


Just so you know, the same China equally banned Facebook and many of these social media platforms you and Freeze use in mast.urba. ting.
The Chinese government dislike competition and thus, anything perceived to be competitive, religious in nature or not, gets an immediate sanction.

Get your facts right. The Christian faith has never hindered positive progressions in any continent. If your Country isn't working, chances are your teachers, your politicians and your schools are idle. If you want progressions, vote the right people into electoral offices and stop blaming private entities over how they choose to legally make, save or spend their monies.
If China banned Christianity, then Jesus told a lie then. Jesus will not come again because his coming depends solely on his gospel reaching the whole world. Christianity is doomed.
CelebritiesRe: Daddy Freeze Celebrates Benedicta Elechi, His Baby Mama Amid Tithe Drama by Akin1212(m): 2:46pm On Dec 01, 2017
crownedprinz:
How is that anyone's business if i pay my tithe...to whoever i wanna pay it to.....even if i pay it to "Sango"....#its_no_ones_business......
You are changing the dimension of your argument now. You were arguing that Christians should follow the role model, Now you have shifted to it's nobody's business. It's alright.


Just like it's not your business to criticize freeze too when he airs his opinion, I suggest you just read and move on.
CelebritiesRe: Daddy Freeze Celebrates Benedicta Elechi, His Baby Mama Amid Tithe Drama by Akin1212(m): 2:33pm On Dec 01, 2017
Acidosis:
I don't beat women and run to Instagram to teach Pastor Adeboye, Bishop Oyedepo and other highly placed men what to do to keep their "sheepies". Does that makes me better than Freeze?

grin grin
This point is dead on arrival.
CelebritiesRe: Daddy Freeze Celebrates Benedicta Elechi, His Baby Mama Amid Tithe Drama by Akin1212(m): 2:32pm On Dec 01, 2017
crownedprinz:
and i saw the person's quote you responded to...He talked about freeze's home directly and you used pastor's life to reply him............nigga religion is individual oh...the perfect role model to compare with our daily lives now is only the one Jesus lived..no other man can be a better role model.......#get_that_into_you
And I responded with Oyakilome and Okotie because I don't see how Freeze's home issues relate to his opinions on tithing. Can you see that that's way off the point?

The person I quoted wanted to write off Freeze's advice to the sheep as irrelevant because he couldn't keep a home, it would be fair also to write off the pastors preaching to the same sheep because they couldn't keep their homes.

If religion is individual then why is church necessary? Isn't that what Freeze is saying?

If Jesus lived by not paying tithes to anybody, even though synagogues existed at that time, then why the fuck_ are you paying tithes?
CelebritiesRe: Daddy Freeze Celebrates Benedicta Elechi, His Baby Mama Amid Tithe Drama by Akin1212(m): 2:26pm On Dec 01, 2017
PointZerom:
Lame argument....
Just your own opinion too, it doesn't make my argument lame because you opined it does.
CelebritiesRe: Daddy Freeze Celebrates Benedicta Elechi, His Baby Mama Amid Tithe Drama by Akin1212(m): 2:22pm On Dec 01, 2017
crownedprinz:
who is talking about tithing now ....this were your words:"Pastor Chris Oyakilome and Chris Okotie didn't also keep their homes, what's your point?"......am attacking you on the "homes" topic......
I quoted someone, so my words have premises. I guess you didn't see my quote.
CelebritiesRe: Daddy Freeze Celebrates Benedicta Elechi, His Baby Mama Amid Tithe Drama by Akin1212(m): 2:18pm On Dec 01, 2017
Acidosis:
That's not the right approach. Even the apostles never condemned one another openly. That's why we have the book of Acts, etc. It was a personal affair, letter to letter, man to man.

That Freeze got the opportunity to be on Instagram doesn't mean he should speak ill about everyone. As far as I'm concerned, Freeze is not a Christian, his opinion is wrong, and he preaches nothing but falsehood.

The ediot even called Jesus a drunkard in one of his recent posts. This is the kind of man some of you so called Christians take as your idol.
Freeze only quoted what the bible said about Jesus and nobody can deny it, not even the pope.

Freeze has freedom of speech and opinions, you can't blame him for blaming Christians doing what their figure Christ did not do.

Freeze is not an apostle, these pastors have collected enough. How can a pastor buy a private jet when the members who made him are poor?

Except if you are aspiring to become a pastor too.
CelebritiesRe: Daddy Freeze Celebrates Benedicta Elechi, His Baby Mama Amid Tithe Drama by Akin1212(m): 2:14pm On Dec 01, 2017
PointZerom:
Is pastor oyakilome and okotie the Jesus Christ and the disciples your daddy freezer said we should follow their footsteps?


Can't you see that freezer is possessed
Did this Jesus Christ you are talking collect tithes?
CelebritiesRe: Daddy Freeze Celebrates Benedicta Elechi, His Baby Mama Amid Tithe Drama by Akin1212(m): 2:12pm On Dec 01, 2017
felixomor:
At least they dont dictate to other churches what to do.
Like Freeze
You're misusing the word dictate in this case. Freeze is not dictating anything, he is not a dictator, he just said his mind.
CelebritiesRe: Daddy Freeze Celebrates Benedicta Elechi, His Baby Mama Amid Tithe Drama by Akin1212(m): 2:11pm On Dec 01, 2017
crownedprinz:
how would you use pastors to relate to a case like this.....are pastors God?? we serve Jesus.. and he came in flesh form to teach us ways to leave..so use only Jesus as a role moddel.so don't use pastors as a role model for an example please
Freeze had said many times that Jesus did not preach tithe either did he accept it from anybody. Freeze had used Jesus, so what's your point?
CelebritiesRe: Daddy Freeze Celebrates Benedicta Elechi, His Baby Mama Amid Tithe Drama by Akin1212(m): 2:10pm On Dec 01, 2017
Acidosis:
They don't try too hard to teach people above them. That's the point.
But don't they air their opinions about issues and people accept and follow them?

Now that's the issue. You cannot because of a failed marriage silent people.
CelebritiesRe: Daddy Freeze Celebrates Benedicta Elechi, His Baby Mama Amid Tithe Drama by Akin1212(m): 2:04pm On Dec 01, 2017
Acidosis:
Shameless old man..


Ordinary home of two people (wife and child), you can't keep. Yet trying hard to teach people above you how to keep their so called sheep
Pastor Chris Oyakilome and Chris Okotie didn't also keep their homes, what's your point?
CelebritiesRe: Daddy Freeze Celebrates Benedicta Elechi, His Baby Mama Amid Tithe Drama by Akin1212(m): 2:01pm On Dec 01, 2017
The new religion is Freezianity

Don't be left out.
Christianity EtcRe: Pastor Mathew Ashimolowo Blasts Daddy Freeze For Teaching Against Tithing VIDEO by Akin1212(m):
**** Only yahoo boys can relate to the emotions of Ashimolowo while he was condemning Freeze. That's how yahoo boys condemn FBI and EFCC.



The tithe is for the JEWS(JUDAISM) and not Christians(the followers of Christ) But the sheeple no go hear word. THE SHEEPLE DON TURN TO GOATS.

Just imagine the amount of money entering every month as tithe.

If 10 thousand people pay 1000 averagely every month... that's 10000 X 1000 = Ponzi grin grin

Christianity EtcRe: Don't Be Deceived By The Atheists And Other Agents Of Satan. Please Read... by Akin1212(m): 11:35am On Dec 01, 2017
Oracle16:
Don't mind noise makers. I still wonder why the world celebrate them every 1st of April.
You may have to wonder forever.

Even the people who dash una Christianity are so conservative about it. Na una come become the fundamentalists. Shame.
EducationRe: Scenic Pictures Of ABU Zaria Dam by Akin1212(m): 5:02pm On Nov 30, 2017
missyQween:
Oh...Okay.Thought you are an indigene of Zaria
Lol, even if I am at least I won't boast about it. grin grin
Christianity EtcRe: Don't Be Deceived By The Atheists And Other Agents Of Satan. Please Read... by Akin1212(m):
Oracle16:
The Lord will continue to be our strength. Pray at all times and study the Bible always. Get addicted to the word of God, so when they make their noise you will not fall for it.

John 10 :10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.

Satan and his agents come to you with those deceptive messages and comments, to steal the word of God from your heart, then eventually kill you, so your soul will be lost in hell and that means destroying the person's soul forever.
Yes, yes, may the Lord continue to be your strength, even though the strength cannot stop ordinary earthquakes from killing the people of God. When that strength starts preventing a collapsing building from killing the so called children of God, maybe we can start believing.
Christianity EtcRe: Don't Be Deceived By The Atheists And Other Agents Of Satan. Please Read... by Akin1212(m): 2:02pm On Nov 30, 2017
Yes people, hold on to your faith and your illusions. There's nothing like it.
Christianity EtcRe: Don't Be Deceived By The Atheists And Other Agents Of Satan. Please Read... by Akin1212(m): 2:01pm On Nov 30, 2017
Heaven is real and hell is real, but the reality is not real.

Said someone who has been to heaven and hell.
CrimeRe: Video Of The Physically Challenged Woman That Killed Her Newborn Baby In Delta by Akin1212(m): 12:56pm On Nov 30, 2017
Angy55:
No hard feelings dear. Do have a nice day
Thanks cheesy cheesy

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