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InvestmentRe: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians by aktopgun(m): 10:33pm On Feb 14, 2008
pumping777:
My guy, I no dey discount your analysis o. Not at all. Nobody fit dey spot on all the time. Dat one na one a lighter note. I no wan make you no give us your analysis again o. Abeg jare.  grin grin grin
stop my analysis ke? me wey just order my book by morris on candlestick analysis, u wan make i waste money? grin

no not at all. i just dey low today with all this gist both on here and from the NSE. A bit discouraged but i'm sure i'll shake it off. no mind me jo
InvestmentRe: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians by aktopgun(m): 9:16pm On Feb 14, 2008
RTbriscoe

buying pressure dey for them gaan today o. see volume today. since dec the highest volume sold in one day was just over one million in any one day. today alone na over 2 million units. hmmm, another big boy offloading abi? wink
for the japanese speaking nigerians, na green marubozu e do today, long one. lets see it if it continues
InvestmentRe: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians by aktopgun(m): 9:10pm On Feb 14, 2008
@yodi

i hope my post didnt confuse you. i just tire for this NSE

absolutely depressing.
InvestmentRe: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians by aktopgun(m): 9:04pm On Feb 14, 2008
hacker777:
@aktopgun
abeg hacker na freeman o, don't be scared.
crying freeman abi which one?

omo i dey use anti-depressant  grin now jare with all the goings on today
InvestmentRe: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians by aktopgun(m): 8:59pm On Feb 14, 2008
hacker777:
people, hw is it going to be that some companies are listed for investigation while we all know who and who be culprits. abeg na naija we dey.
make we just dey careful enough to protect our hard earned money.
abeg make nothing do eternal and afroil,  else someone is going to cry.
one love.
scoa seems to be on the move, abeg wetin dey push am?
bye for now
ehn! we don see who dey hack the NSE now! cheesy cheesy cheesy hacker, welcome, join the party!
InvestmentRe: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians by aktopgun(m): 6:32pm On Feb 14, 2008
@yodi

i don shaaarraaappp about candle, or no candle or even japanese for that matter. I am Nigerian.

not helpful apparently  wink  abi?

it shows a rough time today for the buyers and the sellers dominated althought he buyers made a late rally and bid the price up from its low of 19.50. Considering when this has happened, confirmation will come tomorrow if this is indeed a bearish reversal

there are still some sellers about. i will wait and see what tomorrow brings for NASCON
InvestmentRe: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians by aktopgun(m): 6:18pm On Feb 14, 2008
@pumping

on ur jibe about diamond, cool down. notice that it closed at its highest price today. look at the volume sold yesterday,about 130m, and today that its supposedly "doors shut", under 50m.

yes diamond is good to enter i never said it wasnt. however, what i did say was if one wants to enter, there is still an opportunity. there were still some sellers willing to sell their diamond today at N20.50, just a little more than yesterday's lowest selling price.

its definitely looking good for them now in terms of entry price, its trying to determine the lowest price possible at which to enter i was referring to.

by the way, i got this from MACD, RSI & candles  grin  grin  tongue
InvestmentRe: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians by aktopgun(m): 4:00pm On Feb 14, 2008
CHIMOOOOOOOOOOO!!!


So uncle napoleon, all the analysis wey i dey do for my stock na complete waste of time abi! chei!
anyway god dey. thanks for the analysis. as i said we wey no get keys to the corridors of power will tanda for the balcony till we break in.

una don dey see the people wey dey run things now? technical ko, fundamental ni  cheesy  cheesy  cheesy.

i go keep trying sha. na wa for this world and this our country sha. nothing dey clean. but them say make we no complain. ta!!
InvestmentRe: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians by aktopgun(m): 2:53pm On Feb 14, 2008
LondonCool:
@Aktopgun,

Nice dialectics on Candlesticks, but don't forget to credit your source of information which undoubtedly is lifted from stockcharts.com (I had a clash with Seun over this issue last year).
thanks for the heads up. if u go back a few pages u will see i clearly posted it there that i get the tutorials from mostly stockcharts. there are other sources but i find they are the clearest and easiest to post on here.
InvestmentRe: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians by aktopgun(m): 11:43am On Feb 14, 2008
wanaj0:
Thank you my brother. That's why I said buyers should beware!!!!!!!

Abeg, no be my contact OOOOO!!!! Do your due dilligence. CAVEAT EMPTOR

Don't see the fuss here. Though the guys are suspect, they still have the right to sell their shares in Cadbury. Don't see anything untoward in the people concerned lodging their certificates with CSCS.

As per cadbury, as long as una still dey drink Bournvita no shaking. See Cadbury rising now. Quite a number of people did panic selling. See how high the price has gone. Never really liked Cadbury but will not fault anyone that is holding on to it LONG term

As expected. Na the N1tr capitalisation dey push the thing up. Note that it is not however going to the N40.00 mark again!
InvestmentRe: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians by aktopgun(m): 11:40am On Feb 14, 2008
Mr. Risky:
Let me explain.  I met my town's man yesterday and we got talking.  Then he said, "I heard you are heavily into stocks?"  asking.  I answered "well yes".  And we went on discussing.  I was now trying to prove guru by mentioning PE, EPS, Candestick or is it candlelight, guru maharaji etc.  You know.  And he asked "What is PE, CAGR?" He was sincere in his query, he has never heard terms like that before, meanwhile he just made his MILLIONS from Capoil.  He said he just took a look at the stock prices in the newspaper and saw that Capoil was very low priced.  So with N500,000 he went in and the price started shoooooootiiiiiiiiiiig and he got his millions grin grin grin.

Well you will say it's God, but my own na devilhuh??
@ RISKY, omo when ur friend finish the yarns u for tell am say nairaland folks don talk am before and we go talk am again, say because a system score once or twice or even three times, no mean say e correct. we have heard here of people wey buy capoil simply because e get "oil" for im name. U go advise person to do that? i doubt it, becasue u know better. Did ur towns man tell u about the losses he made? Again i doubt it.
NSE is proving to be in a class of its own and as it is getting more sophisticated by the day, u can be sure that ur towns man's strategy is a recipe for hypertension.
As for you, i know say u know better. try teach that town's man about ur style make e know or tomorrow when the sh, t hits the fan, e go talk say u know and u no tell am o!
Love the story though  grin
InvestmentRe: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians by aktopgun(m): 10:56am On Feb 14, 2008
dollyp1cute:
Discussion of this development takes place on The Money Show of This Morning on AIT (local and BSkyB - Europe).
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In the first of apparent moves to re-instill public confidence in financial reporting, SEC has ordered the freezing of accounts of the sacked management of Cadbury Nigeria Plc.

This is coming on the heels of recent disclosures about the financial reporting of firms such as Union Dicon, NAMPAK and lately Wema Bank Plc.

In its statement yesterday, The Securities & Exchange Commission noted with dismay that while the company's accounts and the affected officials were still being investigated, some of the directors had made moves to dematerialise their shares probably to sell same.

Though SEC said the intention of the people was not known, it, however directed the freezing of CSCS accounts of persons so identified to prevent a pre-emptive sale of those shares.

To ensure that the officers’ shares remained intact, SEC advised the NSE, CSCS and all stockbrokers to be cautious in matters relating to the share accounts of the executives or officers of the company.

Two years ago, the accounts of Cadbury were discovered to have been overstated to the tune of over N5 billion.

In the wake of the company’s mis-statement, the managing director and the financial director of the company, Mr. Bummi Oni and Mr. Ayo Akadiri, respectively, were relieved of their positions so as to allow for unhindered investigation into the matter.

The commission's Statement said:
"It has been observed that some directors and senior officers of Cadbury Nigeria Plc, whose roles in misstatement of accounts are under investigation are now dematerialising their shares and lodging same with the Central Securities and Clearing System (CSCS).

The intention of this is not known. Consequently, SEC hereby directs the freezing of CSCS accounts of persons so identified to prevent a pre-emptive sale of those shares”.

The Nigerian Stock Exchange, CSCS and all stockbrokers are advised to deal with caution in share accounts of the executives or officers of Cadbury."

WATCH THE MONEY SHOW today on AIT with Boason Omofaye as we discuss this developments and more,  Time: 10am to 12 noon.
mo gbe! naija sha. if this story is true and i have no reason to doubt that it is then it seems even the so called old reliables in nigeria are not so reliable again!. na wa o! One must tred with care in the NSE. abracadabra too much jare. If one cant trust a company as old as Cadbury wetin remain? huh huh huh
Wanajo, u dey see this? it just came off my long term list till further notice
InvestmentRe: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians by aktopgun(m): 10:49am On Feb 14, 2008
OK. to finish up on doji:

Dragon Fly Doji (i go soon find nigerian name for these ones sef  cheesy):

Dragon fly doji form when the open, high and close are equal and the low creates a long lower shadow. The resulting candlestick looks like a "T" with a long lower shadow and no upper shadow. Dragon fly doji indicate that sellers dominated trading and drove prices lower during the session. By the end of the session, buyers resurfaced and pushed prices back to the opening level and the session high.
The reversal implications of a dragon fly doji depend on previous price action and future confirmation. The long lower shadow provides evidence of buying pressure, but the low indicates that plenty of sellers still loom. After a long downtrend, long red candlestick, or at support, a dragon fly doji could signal a potential bullish reversal or bottom. After a long uptrend, long white candlestick or at resistance, the long lower shadow could foreshadow a potential bearish reversal or top. Bearish or bullish confirmation is required for both situations.

Gravestone Doji: aka graveyard

Gravestone doji form when the open, low and close are equal and the high creates a long upper shadow. The resulting candlestick looks like an upside down "T" with a long upper shadow and no lower shadow. Gravestone doji indicate that buyers dominated trading and drove prices higher during the session. However, by the end of the session, sellers resurfaced and pushed prices back to the opening level and the session low.
As with the dragon fly doji and other candlesticks, the reversal implications of gravestone doji depend on previous price action and future confirmation. Even though the long upper shadow indicates a failed rally, the intraday high provides evidence of some buying pressure. After a long downtrend, long red candlestick, or at support, focus turns to the evidence of buying pressure and a potential bullish reversal. After a long uptrend, long green candlestick or at resistance, focus turns to the failed rally and a potential bearish reversal. Bearish or bullish confirmation is required for both situations.

Chikena for doji!!
InvestmentRe: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians by aktopgun(m): 10:12am On Feb 14, 2008
ok. since the candles can hekp us lesser mortals, (wanajo,napoleon, una no dey that list o! cheesy  cheesy)

a little history ad my dear forex trader has pointed out (u are very welcome bros  cheesy, another silent millionaire reader (both probably)

History
The Japanese began using technical analysis to trade rice in the 17th century. While this early version of technical analysis was different from the US version initiated by Charles Dow around 1900, many of the guiding principles were very similar:

1.The "what" (price action) is more important than the "why" (news, earnings, and so on).
2. All known information is reflected in the price.
3. Buyers and sellers move markets based on expectations and emotions (fear and greed).
4. Markets fluctuate.
5. The actual price may not reflect the underlying value.

According to Steve Nison, candlestick charting first appeared sometime after 1850. Much of the credit for candlestick development and charting goes to a legendary rice trader named Homma from the town of Sakata. It is likely that his original ideas were modified and refined over many years of trading eventually resulting in the system of candlestick charting that we use today.

i have done a diagram a few pages back on how candles look, so a few words on DOJI:
Doji are important candlesticks that provide information on their own and as components of in a number of important patterns. Doji form when a security's open and close are virtually equal. The length of the upper and lower shadows can vary and the resulting candlestick looks like a cross, inverted cross or plus sign. Alone, doji are neutral patterns. Any bullish or bearish bias is based on preceding price action and future confirmation. The word "Doji" refers to both the singular and plural form.

Ideally, but not necessarily, the open and close should be equal. While a doji with an equal open and close would be considered more robust, it is more important to capture the essence of the candlestick. Doji convey a sense of indecision or tug-of-war between buyers and sellers. Prices move above and below the opening level during the session, but close at or near the opening level. The result is a standoff. Neither bulls nor bears were able to gain control and a turning point could be developing.

Doji and Trend
The relevance of a doji depends on the preceding trend or preceding candlesticks. After an advance, or long green candlestick, a doji signals that the buying pressure is starting to weaken. After a decline, or long red candlestick, a doji signals that selling pressure is starting to diminish. Doji indicate that the forces of supply and demand are becoming more evenly matched and a change in trend may be near. Doji alone are not enough to mark a reversal and further confirmation may be warranted
After an advance or long green candlestick, a doji signals that buying pressure may be diminishing and the uptrend could be nearing an end. Whereas a security can decline simply from a lack of buyers, continued buying pressure is required to sustain an uptrend. Therefore, a doji may be more significant after an uptrend or long green candlestick. Even after the doji forms, further downside is required for bearish confirmation. This may come as a gap down, long red candlestick, or decline below the long green candlestick's open.
After a decline or long red candlestick, a doji indicates that selling pressure may be diminishing and the downtrend could be nearing an end. Even though the bears are starting to lose control of the decline, further strength is required to confirm any reversal. Bullish confirmation could come from a gap up, long green candlestick or advance above the long black candlestick's open.

the candles can really help in assessing the market and because they are by nature short term indicators, observe them for  1-4 week periods

hope this isnt boring or over the top fellas.
InvestmentRe: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians by aktopgun(m): 8:46pm On Feb 13, 2008
windywendy:
AKT, how's the little one?

There are no juicy numbers, it's a turnaround situation with all the perfect qualities of a turnaround. Great market potential, new board, much more focussed core investor with tentacles in various other businesses including oil and gas and clean, debt-free balance sheet with substantial working capital to jump start operations. I hate to hype stocks, but this is another eterna/costain story in the making. The only big problem I see with these guys however is the competition from imported cables. But all they need is a couple of big ticket contracts to make some dough. With all the activity going on in the housing, telecom and power sector, these guys shouldn't have problems grabbing themselves some of those contracts, esp. since they have govt-connected peeps on the board. I like this scenario!
my sister, good looking out. tobechukwu is strong and we are standing on our confession over him.

so on this niwicable, who be the investor?
it looks like its left the boarding gate or am i blowing smoke?
InvestmentRe: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians by aktopgun(m): 8:31pm On Feb 13, 2008
@easi

took a look at niwicable at windy's prompting too. seems a bit late to enter just now but entry point will surely surface soon.

so how juicy are hte numbers looking?
InvestmentRe: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians by aktopgun(m): 8:25pm On Feb 13, 2008
@windywendy

fcmb - 16.03b, including P.O and GDR
FBN - 19.6b, including 7.66b listed in dec 07

source:easimoni's spreadsheet
InvestmentRe: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians by aktopgun(m): 7:59pm On Feb 13, 2008
@easi

i holla. wassup man. any gist?
InvestmentRe: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians by aktopgun(m): 7:56pm On Feb 13, 2008
shigidi, shigidi, shigidi!!!!

nothing. i just like to dey call ur name! cheesy cheesy cheesy

on diamond, wait a day. it will drop further. then carry ur bag, baggages and potmonto enter!! cheesy
InvestmentRe: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians by aktopgun(m): 7:53pm On Feb 13, 2008
flourmills going to drop from the looks of it.

@ all

una see as big boys dey yarn, dey comot from the shadows?

Napoleon, invaluable eye opening gist there. may u never come to a waterloo. welcome and dont be a stranger.
InvestmentRe: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians by aktopgun(m): 6:24pm On Feb 13, 2008
wanaj0:
The Starcomms PP is an old story. Changes in ownership scuttled the initial plan. Now even the executives are denying any PP but they confirm plan. Now, I don't believe them!!! they need the PP to do the expansion programme which to me is KEY.

If you get any info, abeg make I know. Na serious leverage man go use enter that one. Na 100 to 1 if possible.

I no fit do charts so wetin man pickin go do!!! Japanese I no sabi speak.

If you see those that bought millions of Guinea Insuarnce @ 0.50 you will know that Levels don change. I mean, a friend collected the application form on the streets of Lagos and that was what transformed his life. Now for those kind of opportunity, hit am well!!!

Chams did a PP folowed it up with a stock split and a 4 to 1 bonus!!! Gaddem!!!!! That is 8 for 1. Just corner like 10m units of that and you don't need to invest again for that year!!
chei ! wanajo!!!
as we never reach una level obviously, how we for do. we need all the help we can get
as u urself said, in nigeria, different rules for different people, we no get keys to the corridors of power yet, at least we go tanda for balcony. abi?
god will help us
InvestmentRe: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians by aktopgun(m): 4:57pm On Feb 13, 2008
aktopgun:
to the list now.
1. fidelity - gained
2. fbn - gained (sweet  cheesy)
3. flourmills - no change
4. ikeja hotels - no change today
5. intercontinental - dropped small
6. japauloil - gained
7. nigerian german - gained
8. okitipupa - don't know yet. trw didnt report it, anyone know?

others mentioned:
crusader - lost as expected
cornerstone - lost as expected
abc trans - lost as expected
continental insurance - dropped small.
intenegins - gained as expected

and the week goes on.
chei, how long can i keep this up for. now i see why i don't have the time for trading, na full time work o!! cheesy  cheesy
to the list; DAY 3 of this online experiment on the use of TA in the nigerian market:
1. fidelity - gained
2. fbn - lost
3. flourmills - no change
4. ikeja hotels - tiny gain
5. intercontinental - no change
6. japaul - gained
7. nig-german - gained
8. okitipupa - dropped

others on the watchlist
crusader - tiny gain today
cornerstone - lost
abctrans - gained
continental insurance- lost
intenegins - lost.

and the week goes on  cheesy
InvestmentRe: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians by aktopgun(m): 4:35pm On Feb 13, 2008
yodiyokun:
So wetin be the koko? But if the big boys are selling - dosent this show a downtrend sign  and not that an upward trend is imminent?
yeah it means a downtrend but also a good time to enter for the long term players. the bank is still good fundamentally so no fears there.

i hope the TA vocabulary is a bit clearer now girl
InvestmentRe: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians by aktopgun(m): 4:27pm On Feb 13, 2008
for the fellas discussing diamond, it still has a bit of a ways to fall and entry point is early next week. just my thoughts cheesy cheesy

InvestmentRe: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians by aktopgun(m): 12:03am On Feb 13, 2008
@ dollyp1cute

here goes nothing.

2 days ago GTB formed a hanging man candle:The Hanging Man is a bearish reversal pattern that can also mark a top or resistance level. Forming after an advance, a Hanging Man signals that selling pressure is starting to increase. The low of the long lower shadow confirms that sellers pushed prices lower during the session. Even though the bulls regained their footing and drove prices higher by the finish, the appearance of selling pressure raises the yellow flag. As with the Hammer, a Hanging Man requires bearish confirmation before action. Such confirmation can come as a gap down or long black candlestick on heavy volume.

today and yesterday, it formed a doji : Doji convey a sense of indecision or tug-of-war between buyers and sellers. Prices move above and below the opening level during the session, but close at or near the opening level. The result is a standoff. Neither bulls nor bears were able to gain control and a turning point could be developing.

i would wait a little while to see but long term, u know its a good one  cheesy  cheesy

InvestmentRe: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians by aktopgun(m): 12:01am On Feb 13, 2008
@ dollyp1cute

here goes nothing.

2 days ago GTB formed a hanging man candle:The Hanging Man is a bearish reversal pattern that can also mark a top or resistance level. Forming after an advance, a Hanging Man signals that selling pressure is starting to increase. The low of the long lower shadow confirms that sellers pushed prices lower during the session. Even though the bulls regained their footing and drove prices higher by the finish, the appearance of selling pressure raises the yellow flag. As with the Hammer, a Hanging Man requires bearish confirmation before action. Such confirmation can come as a gap down or long black candlestick on heavy volume.

today and yesterday, it formed a doji : Doji convey a sense of indecision or tug-of-war between buyers and sellers. Prices move above and below the opening level during the session, but close at or near the opening level. The result is a standoff. Neither bulls nor bears were able to gain control and a turning point could be developing.

i would wait a little while to see but long term, u know its a good one  cheesy  cheesy
InvestmentRe: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians by aktopgun(m): 11:11pm On Feb 12, 2008
in our case, using nigeriansecurities.com, the white real body u see above would be green while the black one would be red

we will eventually all be able to follow the gist, slowly but surely. to show say those oyinbo on bloomberg dem no get two heads! cheesy cheesy
InvestmentRe: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians by aktopgun(m): 11:08pm On Feb 12, 2008
for those who have time

i got my tutorials from stockcharts.com. to read am no be yam but ever so enlightening
InvestmentRe: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians by aktopgun(m): 11:06pm On Feb 12, 2008
dollyp1cute:
Red may signal the beginning of bear market for the stock but you need to compare with previous pattern i.e. is it an engulfing one in which case you wait for a day or two to confirm.

Candles however are more for short term markets and also signals good entry point for a stock you want to go into for a long term.

@Akptogun mark my answer paper  cheesy

Although since Akptogun dey here I no wan read my candles handout again.
cheesy cheesy cheesy. yes yes yes!

small gist i got on candles to help us all who may not have too much time,

InvestmentRe: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians by aktopgun(m): 10:51pm On Feb 12, 2008
aktopgun:
so to speak. yes
but with a caveat, u see, even on green days, if there's a long or short candle wick it is still worth looking at how the intra day struggle between the bulls and bears went
InvestmentRe: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians by aktopgun(m): 10:48pm On Feb 12, 2008
LondonCool:
In other words, the Green Candles represent the[b] Bulls[/b] while the Red one represent the[b] Bears[/b]
so to speak. yes
InvestmentRe: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians by aktopgun(m): 10:41pm On Feb 12, 2008
dollyp1cute:
This thread has turned to something else o

EMA, MACD, INVERTED HAMMER I WANT TO DO THE MC HAMMER DANCE O

My own small contribution, na siddon look I dey no cash to invest.

But if I have more dosh I will go for some fidelity sha, I can't catch with elephant and I think being able to buy more units of Fidelity na me and Elephant go dey laff the same.

The attached may be useful to filter stocks to watch.
girl, no vex jare, abeg. we just dey try add some other new dimension, every little helps abi.

in all the smoke screen and charts, we always remeber say na the fundamentals dey make a company's technicals worth looking at. For me anyway.

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