₦airaland Forum

Toaskarity: you dont have to? remember yoruba have 50/50 islam/christian

if an hausa can behave like an arab cos of islam, do you think yoruba
is immune to it?

SNCOQ3: Wetin concern reverend with ethnic politics??

skyp: please can someone explain to me the meaning of Shiite, is my first time hearing it

Ibadiarann: He cant possibly live forever. His music is still alive. But for him, he is either in hell or heaven. One Love!!!!!

ckkris: Most of these Nairaland warriors are not based in Nigeria. They write technically like uninvolved European visitors, with near accurate scientific observation of what they see among Africans, but with very little insight into HOW underlying cultural dynamics sustain these conditions.. Kobo j writes like a woman that holds a secure $60k pensionable job for Uncle Sam. Shimmex et al enjoy steady electricity in Europe. They just can't understand, even as they obviously love to. Can ShopKeeper come out and join protests, where the Security Forces are very likely to kill, as they did carelessly at Ikeja and Ilorin, fully convinced that nothing will happen.

nigexport: Allah states in ch109 v1-6;- [/b]Say: O ye that reject Faith! ,I worship not that which ye worship, Nor will ye worship that which I worship. And I will not worship that which ye have been wont to worship, Nor will ye worship that which I worship. To you be your Way, and to me mine.



You selected this verse out of context. You see, when people started accepting islam in the city of Mecca, the pagans, jews and early christians where killing the new converted muslims, torturing them and banishing them from their home town(mecca), therefore many ran away and forsook the religion so this verses was revealed telling them to fight back. To properly understand this verse, you must also include the next verse (i.e. verse 217) of the same chapter in the quran. You see, the verse you quoted does not explain whom allah tells us to fight, or why to fight, it just states we should fight, therefore, to understand this verse you must continue reading till the next verse. i.e ch2 v 217, allah states;-
.... but graver is it in the sight of Allah to prevent access to the path of Allah, to deny Him, to prevent access to the Sacred Mosque, and drive out its members." Tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter. Nor will they cease fighting you until they turn you back from your faith if they can. And if any of you Turn back from their faith and die in unbelief, their works will bear no fruit in this life and in the Hereafter; they will be companions of the Fire and will abide therein.



Again, you are quoting out of context. The verse you quoted is incomplete, as allah mentions two types of people fighting here;- one fighting for evil(satan) and the other fighting for good (allah). I'll also quote the immediate verse before this verse so readers can truly understand the statement, ch4 v75-76;-
75 And why should ye not fight in the cause of Allah and of those who, being weak, are ill-treated- Men, women, and children, whose cry is: "Our Lord! Rescue us from this town, whose people are oppressors; and raise for us from thee one who will protect; and raise for us from thee one who will help!"

76 Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah, and those who reject Faith Fight in the cause of Evil: So fight ye against the friends of Satan: feeble indeed is the cunning of Satan.


Again, you quoted out of context and did not quote the next verse (i.e. 8:13) which explains this verse. This verse was revealed during the battle of badr or Uhud (allahu allam) when the prophet(saw) and his followers left mecca and travelled to medina so that he can escape from the brutality of the jews, pagans and christians, yet these jews/christians/pagans were still not satisfied and planned to travel to medina and kill the prophet there so just like how allah send the red sea to bury pharoah and his solders who wanted to kill moses and the children of isreal, allah sent angels to smite the necks and finger tips of the jews/christians/pagans. Allah states in ch8 v12-13 that he instructed this because they wanted to kill the prophet(saw);-

12 Remember thy Lord inspired the angels (with the message): "I am with you: give firmness to the Believers: I will instil terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them."

13 This because they contended against Allah and His Messenger: If any contend against Allah and His Messenger, Allah is strict in punishment.




Yes, as stated earlier, muslims believe christians and jews will abide in hell-fire just as christianity believes that anyone including muslims who doesn't believe jesus(as) as lord and saviour is condemned to hell fire.



This last verse you quoted seems to be a hadith and not a verse from the quran because i can't find the chapter. Anyways, the arabic word used for fight is "jihad" which means to "strive" and not really to fight. All prophets [ including abraham, lut, solomon, david, jacob, joseph, moses, zakariah, john the baptist, jesus(as) and muhammed(saw)] of God strove against their people until they accepted their preaching so this wasn't only specific to prophet muhammed(saw). All prophets of God where all muslims including Jesus christ (as) himself.

crackhouse: Maybe he want to divide Nigeria into North and south.

alj harem: LOL Papabrown, your statement ALWAYS lack sense

1. What does security issue of the country got to do with Bankole ?

2. What does security issue of boko haram got to do with Tinubu ? if any at all he is meant to meet Fashola not tinubu

Keep deceiving yourself

PapaBrowne: Only fools would assume that in 2012 Jonathan would be meeting Tinubu and Fashola over 2015 elections. This is a ridiculous report.

This meeting if anything is about the present security state of the nation. Some major shake-ups are about to happen. Top shots9Boko Haram sponsors) are about to be taken care of and before you make such a move, you consult key allies(Yes, Tinubu is a key ally) to avoid a politicized backlash!
For those that can't read the signs. . . . you think Azazi's statement was for nothing?? Or you think Jonathan was not in on that statement??

The country is about to experience some major shake up!! I expect Boko Haram would intensify their campaigns knowing that their days are numbered.

lacasa: D militants opened d way now, ​ so​ its normal ΐn nigeria

maasoap: It is either you're deluded just like the perpetrators of this act or you lack knowledge. Mohammed didn't send anybody or group to kill just like Jesus didn't send Anders Breivik to kill. Stop making error of generalization because this statement of yours clearly shows that I'm better as a Muslim than you as a ....................

sayusuf: hmm.something always make me laugh.....they bh or whatever, attack, 99 percent victims are muslims, and u believe bh are muslims, and begin to insult islam...one day, u will understand..

ziccoit: Kai, see how this man allows his brain to disseminate lies.

I'm a Muslim and I must know more than you about Islam. What you put above are lies. Nobody was killed for abusing the Prophets whether Jesus, Moses, Muhammad etc.

Bring forward your reference man.

Stealthy: Chelsea beat us fair and square. They were the better team over two legs, because football is as much about defending as it is attacking or passing (in our case). We scored only 2 goals and conceded 3 goals. We cannot begin to claim to have been the better team, whether Chelsea parked the bus or not.

Messi had a dreadful match. But this match showed what has plagued us this season:

1.) 3 at the back is not sensible against any world class team.

2.) We need to be able to shoot from outside the box. There were countless times when our players had the ball at the edge of the box, Chelsea didn't press because they weren't expecting a shot, and our boys did not shoot because they only know how to pass.

3.) We slowed the game to walking pace - perfect for the defending team to get back into position.

4.) We need reinforcements in defence. Interestingly, Chelsea scored not from set pieces, but from nice attacking plays that we would be proud of ourselves.

5.) Who takes out Cesc for Keita when you need to score?

At the end, we are not in the final because we have concentrated on racking up high possession stats, at the cost of scoring. I love Barcelona and I love our tiki-taka, but changes have to be made to the team. Sometimes, when I watch Dortmund or Arsenal attacking, I see an attacking pace that you rarely see with our team these days. We have become so Messi dependent that our other attackers simply won't shoot, but pass to Messi.

Pep has done a good job so far, but I hope he can learn from his huge mistakes this season. We were never consistently good this season. We had a long winning run, but you hardly felt at ease in many of those matches. We are not the force that we were and Pep needs to take the blame and make the necessary corrections.

Stealthy: Chelsea beat us fair and square. They were the better team over two legs, because football is as much about defending as it is attacking or passing (in our case). We scored only 2 goals and conceded 3 goals. We cannot begin to claim to have been the better team, whether Chelsea parked the bus or not.

Messi had a dreadful match. But this match showed what has plagued us this season:

1.) 3 at the back is not sensible against any world class team.

2.) We need to be able to shoot from outside the box. There were countless times when our players had the ball at the edge of the box, Chelsea didn't press because they weren't expecting a shot, and our boys did not shoot because they only know how to pass.

3.) We slowed the game to walking pace - perfect for the defending team to get back into position.

4.) We need reinforcements in defence. Interestingly, Chelsea scored not from set pieces, but from nice attacking plays that we would be proud of ourselves.

5.) Who takes out Cesc for Keita when you need to score?

At the end, we are not in the final because we have concentrated on racking up high possession stats, at the cost of scoring. I love Barcelona and I love our tiki-taka, but changes have to be made to the team. Sometimes, when I watch Dortmund or Arsenal attacking, I see an attacking pace that you rarely see with our team these days. We have become so Messi dependent that our other attackers simply won't shoot, but pass to Messi.

Pep has done a good job so far, but I hope he can learn from his huge mistakes this season. We were never consistently good this season. We had a long winning run, but you hardly felt at ease in many of those matches. We are not the force that we were and Pep needs to take the blame and make the necessary corrections.

Gracie1818: Thank u brother for at least airing your mind.Honestly I thank God for humility and ability to descend low for him.May God bless u and Van Persie.God bless Arsenal for life

Eagles man: killz,the link is not working please be more specific,thanks.

Cdspencer: My own PFA is Papisse Cisse. Helping Newcastle to top 4 in EPL considering the fact dat he just sign frm Freiburg dis January.