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ChinenyeN:
Excanny, if you're referring to Alj Harem, then I'm not at all concerned with his motives whether ulterior or not. My only concern is with why/how TewMuch cannot seem to understand the difference between "osu" (the devotee) and "osu" (the outcast), as well as understand which one was being referred to when Yoruba was referenced. That's all.

ChineyeN, I think I understand what you mean now. From what I understand, excanny was talking about devotees as osu.
Ok it s perfectly understood.

Thank for the explanation

aloy/emeka:
Don't mind him. Igbos own 70% of the properties in Abuja according to El Rufai and not 70% of the population. Many half illiterates in NL.

thank you, aloy/emeka

all what i said on this thread i really do not mean it, i was just angry and wanted to make things clear to afam

thanks once again

mods pls can you close this thread asap

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-582396.96.html

this thread insights hate for Nigeria and groups in Nigeria
also, this thread  does not take into account the nigerian part of the picture

apart from that, there are no references to the pictures provided which shows it can be taken from any site which shows pictures of other countries crises

thank you

Akhenaten:
You foolish people, while you all are dealing with hypothetical situations, you all should be discussing these pictures I have posted.

I have shown you all a rich catalog of the Nigerian Civil War.

pls pan african guy, can you post a picture on how biafran army killed 2 of my grand uncles

i beg is the world can see how good biafrans are and how bad nigerians are

thank you

Akhenaten:
First of all, as the thread creator, I am not trying to glorify anything, I am simply posting pictures of the civil war, which is part of Nigerian history. Why are you afraid of looking at history? That is the problem with this generation. And I find that PATHETIC.

why not post pictures of the bomb in obalende

why not post pictures on how the biafran army killed a pregnant woman and her unborn baby

why not post pictures of the atrocities committed by biafran soldiers in edo state

why only biafran victims

ChinenyeN:
Alj Harem, "osu" means/implies/refers to different things depending on the context. In the context of this discussion, two things are meant/referred to/implied. One is the caste system present in different clans/communities (which TewMuch sabi is hung up on), a[b]nd the other is the existence of "devotees" (priests/representatives of . . ./servants of. . ./devote to. . ./etc.) that excanny has been talking about this entire time. [/b]

ok brother, i perfectly understand what you are talking about

@ bolded, from what i understand you said, excanny agrument is that osu's can some times be referred to as people that are representative/ servant or devoted to gods etc

but Tewmuch is saying that they are not, according to him he is saying they are neither representative or devoted to gods

what Tewmuch is saying is that they are no osu's in yorubaland, the people that have surnames as ogunleyi (ogun) etc are all just surnames there family choose (here it is a choice) to have since they are worshipping those gods back in the olden days. These families had the choice and choose that surname because decided to have it so as to honour there gods back then when they were worshipping him.

just like a parent that names his son Chukwuemeka (God has done it i think) has honour God with that name

or a person with Okafor as his surname (born on a market day) in a sense dedicates that surname or acknowledges market day that the boy was born

so i do not think excanny and Tewmuch were saying the samething

thanks again ChineyeN for your post, i have learnt something today

eku_bear:
Fair enough. Personally, it isn't very important to me whether we are #1, #2, or #3 in population. Doesn't really affect our position that much (at least, imo).

it does oooo

did you know that it was because if that arrogance before 1960's is what led to the coup

jason123:
Bros, why the insult?  
I would not take sides in any discussions. I say it as I see it!

The population if Ndigbo has been underestimated in Nigeria! Even that of the yorubas!. There was a story of an igbo man (sometime ago) saying he wants to form his own village.
You cannot use land mass to estimate the population of a group. If it is done that way, then, Hausas automatically have the highest population in nigeria followed by the yorubas. But you have to be honest here, THERE HAS BEEN NO CREDIBLE POPULATION COUNT IN NIGERIA! Coupled with the population density of the east, they are easily the most populous in nigeria, though there is no evidence because of our corrupt government.

I stand by it!!!

jason i beg just shut it

what are you taking about

have you been to the north  for you to say they are more than us

a typical norther that is not educated and has money will have as much as 15 children so what are you talking about

that is even average

isale_gan2:
Stop that.  You're Igbo, remember.

i know, i am half igbo not a full igbo man

they tend to make one angry with there arrogance and pride

later they will say i am anti-igbo, then them , themselves are anti anything nigeria

eku_bear:
Sometimes I wonder if the generosity and sharing nature of my people will be our downfall. Some people if you give them an inch, they ask for a mile  

gbamm i tell you

i can not imagine an igbo man telling me to my face that kaduna or borno is 40-50% igbo,,, before he takes his next step, he will be killed immediately ,,,,fact

even abuja that el-rufia says is 70% igbo,,,, why can't the igbos leaving there claim it to be true,,, they will not spend another night in abuja i tell you

most of igbos just like to pull peoples legs

isale_gan2:
Sounds like you lived a long time in Lagos.  So, you must have met lots of Ibos who were born and raised there, speaking Yoruba and mingling well with Lagosians.  I'm not going to pretend there weren't hostility from some, but there were many Ibos who blended well.
I[b] can see someone with an Igbo last name, maybe born of a Yoruba mother with long history in Lagos, becoming governor in 10-20 years from now.  It won't be easy, but it can be done.  It is probably more likely to have a Lagosian born of Tapa (long-term Lagosian) parents get in there first though.[/b]

yes i spent must of my child hood and a sizable portion in lagos was still there recently to see a friend

@ yes i can also see it but he really have to be one great leader chosen by God i mean Allah himself

is it OPC that will not even have emir of kwara that will allow igbo governor in lagos state

well all in all that person will probably not even know anything about igbo again and all he will know is yoruba ringing in his ears

that person will probably have an igbo middle or last name but pure igbo i doudt it maybe 50-70 yrs time or more

even tinubu a yoruba but not a born lagosian is have problems not to talk of pure igbo man

do you know that igbo man commossioner of lagos??

he does not even understand igbo anymore but he has an igbo name,, and yet still the aworis were still shouting not to talk of a pure igbo breed that has not helped his people in the east come to lagos or north to rule

jason123:
True. Brother, I pray a credible igbo man with an insight in the yoruba culture would be the governor of Lagos state soon. Amen.

God forbid bad thing,, why should you say amen to that

are there not other groups in lagos as afam claims,,, why can't a kanuri or hausa or even edo people be the governor why igbos that bombed lagos be the governor of the state

jason, watch what you wish for

were you not here when they were causing chris uba and chime because they joined am yoruba party

lets not even go to a yoruba man ruling enugu

afam4eva:
That's just a rough estimate. Nobody knows the true population of ethnicities in Nigeria.

afam to be honest with you, you really do not know what you are talking about

the population of igbos in lagos is not more that 5-10% most of the people you consider igbos of lagos are not even registered in alausa because during the emulation most igbos ran back to the east and were not registered as lagosians

i hope u know there are parts of lagos that no single igbos is found living there,,,,eg isele eko, inside ebute metta, inside epe, inside badagry, a very small population can be found in ikordu

igbos are popular in ajegunle, makoko and proparbly idumota

go to ikoyi and victoria island most of the houses are either government or own by yourbas/edo

lekki  is also populated by yorubas and a very very small amount of igbos

afam, what are you talking about, this are people leaving in lagos, and they are telling you the reality here


plas do not insult

@ afam

you ahve to learn on how to talk to people who are indigenous to the are we all igbos call home, so they can trust us to rule them,

some of us igbos did not like it when chime and chris uba were talking with ACN nd now we are here talking of ruling othes when other can not rule us,,, how is this fair

Missy85:
the Igbo situation in nigeria is a complex revolving cycle, and i think the Igbos can do a lot more to win friends.

their pride (justifiable) in recovering so well from the war has been allowed in part to turn into unwholesome arrogance & chest beating using many trumped up statistics to tell everyone else how superhuman they are.

A little dose of humility, stopping the constant blame-game will help reassure other nigerians. But Then again, these other nigerians have to extend a genuine hand of friendship devoid of suspicion.

that is very true but when that is done, you get what you see now,,, ""we igbo own 90% of abuja,, we igbo own lagos etc"

until we igbos lay down our pride and learn and trust others, then there is no way out of this

until we stop spiting others that are indigenous to that place we call our home, then sorry

presido1:
Is like you think from your anus. You just called an ibo man born in lagos a lagosian but somebody born in scotland is not a scot. From your anology  James Callaghan is an Irish cus his father is Irish but he was born in England. If he is Irish he wouldn't have been a British PM. You claim to leave in UK but you don't know that they are from where they were born.

presido1, sorry can you and jason stop discussing on uk but nigeria and lagos

thank you

jason, admit u are wrong

afam4eva:
Not every Igbo person wants Biafra. Infact a very large amount of Igbos don't subscribe to the Biafra idea. They just wan
t to live their life. I personally don't support biafra ven though i don't think it's a bad idea. But you can't fault those Biafra fanatics cos they have a reason for doing what they are doing.

but afam, if u do not support biafra, how can u not think it is a bad idea

what do you think lagos is, a state of mostly yoruba cover by at least 2 yoruba states in all direction apart from the south,

i believe an igbo can be governor of lagos state only if he is loved bu the yoruba indegence, if not even tinubu can not put him there because it would be ungovernable for him form opc to awori boys, to mainland, to isale, eko, obalende, etc sululera

etc    unless the igbos guy is yorubazied as jason suggested and he is loved by not only lagosains but by yorubas

afam4eva:
How can you give a shyyt about a state you did not help build.

We can be governor of any state in Nigeria that we deem fit if the people vote for us.

We rush to Lagos where our money is not the whole south-west.

Abi is yoruba guys marrying Igbo girls.

We have businesses in Lagos.

sorry afam were you not the one that was angry at SE governor aspirant joining ACN

ChinenyeN:
That's because "Osu" is not part of our culture.

TewMuch, I said stop trying to argue and pay attention. You are Yoruba. It is presumed (and with good reason) that you will display high levels of ignorance on the issue. So, when an Igbo person wants to inform you further about this, don't argue it. Do not kid yourself. You do not know what an Osu is, because if you did you would understand the basis for excanny's point, which he (and I) took time out to really try and explain to you, but you keep trying to argue with ignorance. Look, if you sincerely refuse to be educated, that is fine. Knowledge and understanding no be by force, but do not argue what you don't know.

sorry to brother you chineyeN

can you give a simple definition of osu

what make a person qualify as a n osu in detail but yet simple terms and also make it clear because ur previous post were confession

thanks

Akhenaten:
I will dedicate another thread to the masquerades that occur in Igboland in todays society. The Igbo Masquerade are not a lost art.

thanks a lot, those pictures were beautiful

just good to show how rich our culture is

most of the younger generation do not know these thing,,sad

@op how do you think we can teach the young ones about all this

Dede1:
This is what Americans termed as mumbo-jumbo.

sorry brother, can u explain how

Ola edo:
We should have more threads about the Igbos,seems to attract a lot of people, brings more discussion than about other tribes as well.

tell me about it

we are popular

mama-gee:
[color=deeppink]Seriously, Do people still think like this in Nigeria in 2011? [/color]

it is going to be a scary place to live in