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what happened to anioma state again

they still want to divide anambra which is also a small state

do they not think it makes more political sense to get anioma and yet still have ikwerre in the SS

unless they want a very strong presence of Igbo in the SS which can also be to a political advanage

PointB:
^^ - It just might not be a bad idea, especially if such Bases are located in Maiduguri or Bauchi which are increasing become a hotbeds for terrorism in Nigeria. But the caveat should be that the Bases are temporary and renewable periodically.

i laugh at how clueless u are

ok please let them come, SMH

so u think it is north they would come to we are watching

Beaf:
Its as if you hate me sha!
How can I fly to Borno that even the indegines are running away from? Can you go to Borno even though that is where you come from?
Guy, I'm just asking you about boko haram in case you know somebody.

ha ha i no hate you o

No i can not go to borno now infact all my family are not staying in lagos and others abuja

I don't know any boko haram. although i am sure GEJ knows them. ask him hard enough i am sure he would tell ur there oga ( i mean boko haram oga)

or how else would u explain the reason for his in action on this issue other than send the military there only who are just killing the innocent

Beaf:
^
Oga, what are your people fighting for? What does boko haram want from civilised people?

again and time again I AM NOT IN SUPPORT OF BOKO HARAM or any group that kills people. I am sure I made that clear since on this forum

Definately Jonathan or the authorities need to something about it either way it must stop. they are fighing for there own pockets and not the north nor borno nor Islam

lastly u can get better info by flying to borno and ask them

[quote author=ndu_chucks link=topic=745804.msg9030361#msg9030361 date=1314577359]What do you call a government which does not hold a single person accountable, after the country's capita is attacked by bomb blasts for the fouth time in less than one year??

This is truly sad and disgraceful.[/quote]a beg tell them ooo

yet this people are calling ACN and aregesola to this like ribadu na president

naijaking1:
[size=18pt]Does an absolute anti-GEJ stand help the headlines [/size]

I don't mean to say that a democratic president shouldn't be criticized, but when you highlight every topic, no matter how false and unsubstantiated, but with an anti-GEJ message to it on the first page, you simply begin to drive fair minded traffic away from this site.

Proof: Count the first 10 topics highlighted at this moment, 6 of them are slanted to paint an unfavorable and myopic picture of the president. Two were even positive toward Boko Haram, 2 positive for Gaddafi, and none positive for GEJ. The positive stories about the president and ways of fighting the current terror war in Nigeria are just highlighted. Unfortunately, we have seen how pro-Boko Haram statements gets carried and amplified as if it's true.

although i am not the mod but i really see this as a silly and hypocritical post and i have to reply to it

1.) is boko haram thread now an anti-GEJ thread

2.) what has GEJ done in recent time, please point it out to us and i am sure the mods would put it on the front page

3.) How is GEJ talking about boko haram = anti-GEJ

Johndoe100:
Yes, boko haram is a borno production. Who do you think you are fooling?

who is fooling who

PDP co-hugs are there bombing nigeria etc u are saying we are fooling

boko haram is a nigerian problem and GEJ needs to tackle it before it gets very problematic

PointB:
My friend shattap there!
You talk like a mumu; now u want to blame foreigners for what is happening in maiduguri. are u saying you dont know your people and they blood crazy religion? Keep pretending

Everyone know that boko haram is an islamic agenda, by the North.
And these bombers are people like you kanuris, living in maiduguri and causing problem all over the place. The best thing to do is to send soldiers to conduct house to house search in maiduguri and arrest all those potential terrorist lurking around the place.

Perhaps starting from you. You dont act different from them.

Lol boko haram = northern muslim agenda

what happened to the south or yoruba/edo/ijaw are not long muslims

again i say u keep saying rubbish my friend.

i am done with u

PointB:
look at this one? So you still the gut to pop up here? Is not your brothers and friends from Kanuri that are causing this problem in the the name of Allah and Mohammed? Are the bombing in my name or GEJ name? Is not Allah Akbar they shout when the detonate their bombs? Even the state the nation find itself is due to what the atrocities your brother from IBB to Abacha to Abdusalam and Yar Adua committed during their times? Nigerians are dying because people like Alj boko harem from kanuri and hausaland are killing them!

The question now is should GEJ bomb Maiduguri to stone age like Obasanjo did in Odi (and what was name of the town in Benue?) That question will be answered I believe in short time. 

Keep basking in spilt blood Ahj Boko Harem!

rubbish talk

why should GEJ bomb maiduguri ?? is it the people of miaduguri that are doing the bombing ?

u see where your sense is

Boko haram is supported by the people that work for GEJ. this people are close to him

this what I HAVE BEEN SAYING ON THE FORUM. haba

why kill the innocent.

ODI is different, it was the indigenes that were fight unlike Boko

moreover. u were talking of ACN and aregebsola and that is why i said stop posting rubbish here because there is no comparison between ACN and PDP

Beaf:


So you see a story thats an obvious invention of the press and thats not the issue? Whats happening to morality? How low can one go, because they lost elections?

SMH

dude ain't u ashame at all. where is ur conscience ?

OAM4J:
In others words, the experts are saying our commander in chief and our security officers are incompetent

lol that is it my brother

The most common symbol and the most common animal among the finds at Igbo Ukwu is the serpent. The image and form of the serpent occurs on all the artifacts, either in full form or in stylized, geometric formation. This in itself says that the civilization in question is a Shamanic civilization of note, for the serpent is the international symbolism of Shamanism and Magic of the Nagas. The Egyptian hieroglyph for serpent’s tooth, which, as noted above, implies the sprouting of gods in the earth is also the glyph for the pyramid, named Tcha/Chi, which means ‘Light/Spirit’. This hieroglyph is in the form of an up-standing triangle, usually equilateral. In Igbo language, ichi/chi also means resident god or god man, and is congruent with the Egyptian Tcha used for the Great Pyramid. ” (Acholonu-Olumba, The Lost Testament, p. 418).

“Mounds, hill-tops, rocks and stones are associated with serpents and serpent worship. Shamans across the world are those who are versed in the use of serpent power for magical purposes. Their garbs include leopard skin, whose round spots imply the all-seeing eye of God (the Egyptian Eye of Ra). ‘Osiris and members of (his) priesthood, the Sem (Shaman) priests are sometimes depicted wearing leopard skins’ (The Serpent Grail, p. 240). The books claim that serpents are emblems of wisdom, discovery of hidden truths and ultimate spiritual attainment” (Acholonu-Olumba, The Lost Testament, p. 420).

*More on the symbolism of the serpent as it relates to creation and the goddess in a later post.

Just want to note that Eke is a name for not only the first day in of the four Igbo market days (Eke, Orie, Afor, Nkwo) which compromise a week, but also the diety of creation, as well as the name of a python.

Let’s look at a common Igbo word very quickly: Chineke, which many translate to mean ‘God the creator’. If we break down the word. Click here for more meanings to consider for the word Chineke.

On Eke again, “The general attitude of the Igbo to the python (eke) is ambiguous. While most snakes are regarded as dangerous, and therefore avoided, the python is considered to be not only tame but sacred. Killing a python is regarded as an abomination to Ala. At Ibi, women were often heard addressing a stray python in the home as as nne (mother)”

[img]http://migrationstoriesofnigerianigbo.files./2010/09/igbo_ichi_marks.jpg?w=334&h=513[/img]

Igbo Man with Ichi Scarification

odumchi nice one

OP
igbo language is not anywhere close to dying

infact it is growing

it is tought in schools in UK and China. so what were did you get that from

here is an example

[size=13pt] Unizik Lecturers To Teach Igbo In Chinese Varsity[/size]

The Nnamdi Azikiwe University, Awka has intensified the academic exchange programme with Chinese institutions with the successful training of six of its lecturers in Chinese language and culture.


The Vice-Chancellor of the university, Prof. Boniface Egboka, said this on Tuesday at a ceremony to mark his second year in office.


He said while six lecturers from UNIZIK were being sponsored by the Chinese government to undergo more studies in China, there were Chinese lecturers at the Confucius Institute in Awka, established in 2007.


He said, “Our lecturers in China will start teaching the Chinese at Xiamen University Igbo language and culture to enhance international understanding and cooperation across boundaries.


“The Chinese government has approved UNIZIK as a centre for taking the Chinese HSK Language Proficiency Examination for certification of those who can write and speak the Chinese language.


“We will begin to issue UNIZIK certificates and diplomas to all our candidates that have undergone the Chinese language training of this university and passed. Such people will be allowed to take the HSK examinations and get the Chinese government certificate if they pass.


“A degree programme in Chinese language and culture has been prepared and approved by the Senate for submission to the NUC for a resource verification exercise and eventual approval.”


He added that the university had continued with linkage programmes with universities in Asia, America, Europe and Africa.


The vice-chancellor said with the support of the governing council and the entire staff and students, his administration had been able to make significant progress.


http://www.punchng.com/Articl.aspx?theartic=Art201106084453596

so u see my sister. it is growing by the day

PointB:
Charity begins at home;
Many people will start taking you serious when you begin to hold Aregbesola, and many of the clueless ACN lots into account. Your selective crusade against GEJ/PDP portrays you as very hypocritic, and totally bias individual.

All you do daily is to condemn PDP/GEJ and praise ACN/Tinubu/Aregbesola and rest of the goon. Stop your hypocrisy! Those who come to equity must come with clean hands! Enough said!

TAAAA!!!! stop that rubbish u are writing

since when has PDP been in power ? 1999 nothing to show for it

since when ahas GEJ been in power febuary 2010,.,.,.,. going to 2 years

now

when did ACN get to power ?

when did aregbesola get to power ? 2 months ago

so what charity are u talking about. ? or is fashola and ACN governor not know WORLD WIDE for his achievemnt in lagos already without finsihing his tenure.

now where is the comparison. a beg shut up if u do not know what to say

branches should be located in every state of the country and head quarters in abuja but manufactuing quarters in ajakuta, ogun, kano, anambra

chikena

this is development

i don't see this as anything really.

how many times has china scam us ??

if this was a Nigerian that was talking like this it would have been a different case

what project among the thousands of project has the chinese completed for us Nigeria

the only potential I see now is INNOSON CARS that is the reality

Until GEJ looks into this and Iweala looks on how to make this car a monopoly in Nigeria car industry then we are not going anyway be it now and no matter the amount of chinese Nigeria brings nothing will show for it

1. they need to first stop the importation of cars by companies

2. the government needs to invest 90% of revenue for infasturestures on Innoson and own 50 % of the company in return

3. there should be branches of this company across the country

4. give another man the contract of steel production for the company ( fedreal character)

5. employment should be do based on the indigenes in the location

after about 10 yrs of this then the ports should be freed back for toyota etc to import back

this would improve various factors in our country from electricity, steel mine, employing 10% of nigeria work force, car exportation etc

this is what they call development and not some chinese man visiting and talking of free trade zone

when over the years we have been doing this same free trade zone rubbish and it has yielded no result

premechaz:
[size=18pt]ROFLMAO[/size]


Isnt that unfortunate Kobojunkie?

Grown arse men talking about another grown arse man

this is fstranger

where have u been ? a beg come back with ur original moniker

[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=536334.msg9024524#msg9024524 date=1314498965]Lots of good stuff in what you wrote. Truth be told, I know almost nothing about the Nupe; never been to northern Kwara or Niger State before in my life. However, I'm drawing my guess based upon the election results. And a few other things I have heard and read from papers.
Well said.[/quote]nupe culture is not far off the yoruba ones, very close to the ibadan, kwara way of life. think of hausa mixed with yoruba culture.

even if u have alone been to lagos, u would see nupe people there with there way of life

Igbo Ukwu is an archaelogical site in Igboland, in Anambra State to be exact. These artifacts are dated to approximately 900 AD, but they may be much older(in fact I’m sure of it), and indicative of a lost ancient civilization in Igboland.

Strangely there isn’t much known about these artifacts beyond what you will find in standard Google searches. What you will generally find are brief descriptions of what was uncovered at Igbo Ukwu with some pictures. Mind you there are hundreds of pieces, and you will not find them all online. Also, sadly, many of the Igbo Uwku artifiacts, our artifacts, because these are indeed ours, are locked away in the British Museum.

These pieces, which I believe to be indigenous productions, are vital in helping to reconstruct some of the ancient history of not only Igbos, but of the human existence within ancient Africa.

Dr. Acholonu and her research team to numerous trips to Igbo Ukwu and recorded what they saw in They Lived Before Adam and The Lost Testament. Many of the pictures in these books are not visible online.

“Igbo Ukwu excavations were conducted in three major locations. But, these three locations yielded no fewer than 700 individual bronze copper and pottery artifacts including more than 200,000 beads, strung and unstrung. Now that does not look like some chance burial of goods. It looks more like a fragment from the ruins of a lost civilization which no one remembers. As a matter of fact on one of our team’s many visits to Igbo Ukwu, we were informed by the President of Igbo Ukwu Development Union, Chief Robinson Ezeife, Ahaejiemba of Igbo Ukwu (a man in his seventies) that when he was a child his parents dug up a pot, full of unstrung beads while digging a well in their compound and that such occurrences were very common in Igbo Ukwu as long as he could remember.

He and others including, Mazi Okafouzu Ugochukwu (Chairman Mbido Igbo Association of Igbo Ukwu), and Architect Pantaleon Osunkwo, all of whom were sent by His Majesty Igwe Martin Nwafor Eze, Idu II of Igbo Ukwu to take us round the town, told us that accidental digging up of ancient bronze, copper and beads artifacts was very common in Igbo Ukwu as long as the town has been in existence. Any one digging a grave, a water cistern or a foundation for a building usually found ‘wealth’. It was regarded as ‘finding wealth’. And anyone who found such wealth would usually contact the Northern Nigerian buyers (Hausa/Fulani) who were ever ready to buy them off at good prices. This made us to understand that there was a very ancient civilization involved, more so beacause of the great depth from which these goods were resurfacing” (Acholonu-Olumba, The Lost Testament, p. 41).


[img]http://migrationstoriesofnigerianigbo.files./2010/09/igbo-ukwu_bowl22.gif?w=225&h=272[/img]

Igbo Ukwu Bronze Bowl - See the Concentric Circles Signifying the Endless Cycle of Life

[img]http://migrationstoriesofnigerianigbo.files./2009/11/igbo-ukwu4.jpg?w=225&h=272[/img]

Igbo Ukwu artifact - Notice the Ichi Marks

naijaking1:
Another likely case of reward money working wonders! Can't wait for them to complete their Afaghanistan task and come to Maiduguri

to kill people ko

so u think they would come north and leave south

think again brother

Gerrard59:
The chief terrorist is saying this is hw u pple start. Funi,vry 4ni. You actually meant 'this is hw we bomb churches,kill xtians,maim birom pple,slaughter innocent children e.t.c. TRUTH IS BITTER. BT HAS TO BE TOLD AND SAID. IT IS BETA TO BE AN ATHEIST THAN TO BE A MOSLEM. AT LEAST I WONT BE A MURDERER.

then u are one dumb poster

how many muslims have u seen ra.ping etc

then remain atheist then

igbo boy:
hmmm maybe i should change my signature cos i have found a bigger zombies than Yoruba peeps,

Imam says bomb infidfels dey say how many?
Imam says death to israel they repeat after him
Imam says allah is the ish they say walai he is the ish

please we were given brains to think and not be a freaking robot, even worse a zombie

dude stop the rubbish u keep posting

I know u are anti-Muslim and it is alright but stop this rubbish post ok!

this is how u people start

efisher:
We can list a million more efficient ways to use that money. Subsidy is so foolish! I personally do not need FG subsidy and many more do not even if they refuse to say so. Those who really need it do not even drive cars so who is really benefiting? How many liters of fuel does the average villager consume in a day?

trust me brother. I know u are probably part of the comfortable Nigerians

but by the time it is dawn on you u would see

1. the cost of commodities such as ur daily insectide et would go up

2. cost of car and generator will go up/ price of fuel

3. food cost would shout up. a loaf of bread now 200N would be 250N

[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=746266.msg9024375#msg9024375 date=1314494256]That never works. It is impossible. What security force on earth can prevent fuel smuggling? If fuel costs N50 in Nigeria but costs N200 in Benin Republic, how do you prevent smuggling from happening? You'll probably spend more money on preventing the fuel from being smuggled than the value of the subsidy!

Wiser to just eliminate the subsidy and spend the money more intelligently. Rather than letting your neighbors reap where they did not sow.[/quote]very good point as well

thanks OAM4J

DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY SPAM BOT is hyper active.

thanks again

Kola-nut or carpel is a nut content of a pod, produced by a tree called Ọjị or Kola accuminata. It is used according for rituals, for marriage ceremonies, title taking, offering or prayers at traditional ceremonies, to welcome visitors and to introduce very important discussions and requests.”

Among Ndi Igbo, the Kola nut (Ọjị) symbolizes pure intention and connects us to our ancestors. Oji is the channel of communication beyond the physical world and into the spirit world. This practice is part of the Igbo traditional religion, or Odinani.

“The founding fathers chose Ọjị as the king of all the fruits and because it came from the gods, it is used in communicating with gods. Because it is the king of all the fruits (a sacred fruit from the gods) it is used in showing goodwill to visitors and for entering into bonds.”

Growing up, I do not recall ever seeing having a visitor in our home or seeing a function commence without the “breaking of the Kola nut.” To not include the kola nut is unheard of and almost criminal.

I can recall, however, that anytime an aunty or uncle (I use this to include all Igbo family regardless if there is immediate blood relation) came to visit our home, my mom or dad would tell me (or one of my siblings) to go and bring a special wooden plate (which we use in our home to serve the kola nut) with the kola nut on it. I would set the plate down before our guests, who would respond with a smile and/or thank you. That seemingly small gesture indicated that there was no ill will in the home towards the guest, and that essentially they were welcome. After I set the plate down with the kola nut, I would go back upstairs and resume whatever it was that I was doing.

Legend of Ọjị

“The importance which the Igbos attach to Ọjị can further be illustrated by a legend which speaks of the visit of the founding fathers to the home of the gods where the gods asked the founding fathers to choose a fruit from all the fruits in the orchard of the gods. The founding fathers chose Ọjị as the king of all the fruits and because it came from the gods, it is used in communicating with gods. Because it is the king of all the fruits (a sacred fruit from the gods) it is used in showing goodwill to visitors and for entering into bonds.”

Presentation of Ọjị

A person cannot present the Kola nut any way that he or she pleases.

“There is the usual handshake immediately a visitor comes in. This is the first demonstration of goodwill with the palm open and the fingers stretched one announces as it were: “I have not hidden on my person any object that will harm you.” A visitor is given a seat and within seconds there is an air of conviviality, which makes the visitor feel at home.”

“Soon a kola-nut is brought “E nwelem Ọjị” -“I have got kola-nut, Ọjị abiala –kola-nut has come.” This pattern obtains at simple receptions. Two kola-nuts may be served to a titled man. One is broken and shared and the other is taken home in fulfillment of the Igbo saying that: “Ọjị rue ụnọ okwue onye chere ya”- a kola-nut brought home says who offered it. It is not customary to present three kola-nuts at a time. Four kola-nuts or multiples of four are served at big gatherings such as fixing of bride price or at Ọzọ title taking. Incidentally, kola-nut is not served in five and six compositions. Seven kola-nut and other requisites in multiples of seven may be served during an important ceremony like “Igbu ewu ndi ichie” – killing a goat for ancestral gods. Eight kola-nuts are normal for marriage that is when the bride is to leave her abode for that of her husband’s. One kola-nut is normally shared even where there are many people; after all an Igbo proverb says: “If kola-nut does not go round when shared, then there are no finger nails to break it up to the required number.” Kola offering is a precursor at receptions, important meetings, customary ceremonies as well as the ceremonial slaughter of cows, goats and cocks. Who offers or can be offered kola-nut is determined by factors culturally discernable. A host offers or can be offered kola-nut as gifts. Priests, elders and titled men at village meetings or even at markets can offer kola-nuts to guests or any people who call on them for advice. The Igbo man offers kola-nuts to guests any time of the day. But, at night, he could excuse himself simply saying by this common saying: “Anyasị ewerela Ọjị’ – the night has taken away the kola-nut. Some are selective in the choice of kola-nut they offer to guests. Ọjị Ugo –champion kola may be selected for presentation to a particular dignitary or it may just happen that a chance pick is Ọjị Ugo. In whatever circumstance Ọjị Ugo is served, the recipient is always held highly as implied in the Igbo statement: “Ọjị Ugo ana-echere nwaeze” – the princely kola which is offered to a prince. Ọjị Ugo (a champion kola-nut) is symbolic of royalty and purity. It attracts blessings and luck on the parties.” (Source)

Breaking of Ọjị

”Usually it is the privilege of the eldest man in a group to offer prayers and thanksgiving when the kola-nut is about to be broken and shared. In some parts of Igboland, the youngest breaks the kola-nut. Investigations show that in some other areas, the youngest one shares out the kola-nut as a service though the eldest man still prays for the well-being of all present. A grandson cannot break kola-nut in the presence of his grandfather and maternal uncles however young they may be, because it is held that he has no effective prayers to offer for them. It is they who will pray for his good health, posterity and progress in life. One cannot also break kola-nut in the presence of one’s in-laws. This is because it is also held that only one’s in-law can effectively pray for the fruitful marriage between the latter and their daughter. Women do not break kola-nut in the presence of men though they can do so when it is an all women gathering. If a man is present, he would be called upon to break the kola-nut. This obtains because women do not offer rituals in Igbo tradition. Kola-nut is held by majority of Igbo people to be sacred. Hence women who because of their monthly period are regarded as impure are barred from breaking kola-nut in order to avoid its defilement. It is even held that women should not climb a kola-nut tree as this could result in the tree going barren. An old woman herbalist however has a privilege to break kola-nuts. She should nevertheless precede this operation by an act of self-purification. This she does by waving seven seeds of alligator pepper over the head, one after the other, and throwing each of them away.”

[img]http://migrationstoriesofnigerianigbo.files./2009/11/kola-nut1.jpg?w=243&h=173[/img]

sources

some of noble igbo people known worldwide

Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie

[img]http://migrationstoriesofnigerianigbo.files./2009/11/chimamanda_ngozi_adichie_33.gif?w=264&h=310[/img]

Chinua Achebe

[img]http://migrationstoriesofnigerianigbo.files./2009/11/chinua_achebe.jpg?w=264&h=310[/img]

Adaora - Model

[img]http://migrationstoriesofnigerianigbo.files./2009/11/adaora0041.jpg?w=264&h=310[/img]

[img]http://migrationstoriesofnigerianigbo.files./2009/11/igbo.jpg?w=264&h=310[/img]

Traditional Wedding
[img]http://migrationstoriesofnigerianigbo.files./2009/11/igbowedding1.jpg?w=264&h=310[/img]

Andre Uweh:
You are right. The Igbo culture has incorporated some aspects of Yoruba, Ijo and Bini cultures. Other cultures are incorporating Igbo ways of life in their own systems as well. For example, some Yoruba musicians now sing songs in Igbo or have a mixture of Igbo in their songs. Notable examples are D-Banj and Midnight crew ''Igwe'' songs.

true talk brother. also majority of Nigerian pigin english are igbo words of nna, etc

yorubas also took baban riga from fulani

etc northerns speak eat isi ewu a nice igbo dish etc. this is how cultures mix up which is good

a lot of hausa and yoruba people have used igbo language to sing can't just recall now.

lovely culture. God bless ndigbo

[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=536334.msg9023672#msg9023672 date=1314482778]^--- I said "even be wiser." Not "it would be wisest."

If you read my post carefully, you should see that I'm saying Arewa nation identity > religious identity > Hausa identity.

At least, that is what I'd do if I wanted to forge diverse peoples into one.[/quote]oh ok. well said