₦airaland Forum

manny4life:
People and their noise, all it takes is less than three minutes of your time, read through the damn article. Reading is one thing, understanding what is being read is another. As for me, I've always been in support of the removal of fuel subsidies after certain engagements are met. Talk about trimming deficit by 3%, that is in a good direction.

we read and understood it brother

is she not meant to be concern with budgets of refineries first and how to get half of the fuel imported first before talking about removal of fuel subsidies which must still go through indigenous refineries first before any other thing

what is the cost of building this Our refineries and how much would take Nigeria government to run it. now which is cheaper

then, we can look forward to build more refineriers and laying off the importation before talking of removing subsidies

felix4real:
You guys are just getting unnecessarily paranoid about the fuel subsidy thing. Read the article before professing doomsday. Fact: She said it is a good thing to remove the subsidy on fuel; Fact: she acknowledges that the poor will be worst hit. But what she didnt say is that they would remove it today, tomorrow, next year or even ten years. She said when the time is right, what this means objectively is that they will find a means of easing the effect of the removal (probably by building more refinaries or increasing production from the existing ones to drop the cost of importation) before considering the removal.

When strategists speak, politicians should not interprete. If you guys are politicians then you have no business interpreting the comments of a strategist because all options are considered before decisions are made and all consequences are considered before pronouncements (such as the one Dr. Ngozi made) are made.

Get your facts right and your brains straight before turning an intellectual analysis of Nigeria's economic problem become a tool for political bickering!!!

Beaf:
Nigerians have been so battered by past governments that they have become instinctive sceptics, its hard to blame the man in the street for that attitude. However, in moderate doses, scepticism is a healthy thing, but it should not be overdone to the extent that we end up defeating ourselves. Some of us don't even bother reading articles any more before screaming our heads off at imaginary enemies and dragons, which is a total shame really.

Ok, understood

@Beaf and felix

but this are my questions and i don't mind if u can answer them. thanks in advice

Is she the minister of works or petroleum. I though she is the minister of finance and as such can not talk of subsides being removed yet. although I acknowledge the good intention she has on the the fuel prices being subsidies free but I don't think she can make such accession yet until there are national functioning refineries then as the minister of finance or so, she can look into the amount of liters the refineries are producing and talk about removing the subsidies

I mean even if the refineries are working, what is the grantee  that the refineries would be up to scratch to measure up to the demand of Nigeria before she can talk of such.

We are in a time in Nigeria where WE THE MASSES (i mean middle class and the poor) don't want to be hearing of such at all.

Let her as a strategist talk of how they can achieve to build refineries that would measure up to half of the imported fuel before she can be talking of removing subsidies.

Or am i saying rubbish because i am willing to learn.

Roland17:
@alj_harem
i say that prayer for her everyday

Good, i am such she will appreciate you and thank her stars for a good son like urself

cap28:
this is just the beginning - by the time this woman and GEJ finishes with all of you - you will all be suicidal- fresh air abi - fools!!

suicide why na?

we rather remove them and start a revolution than commit suicide

good to know,

so is he back yet, they said a week ?

Sun of god:
Stop showing off your ignorance. . . . .

Do we have any functioning refineries in place that can meet the demand of Nigerian consumers?

How about she talks about investing in refineries before she considers removing the subsidies.

That's too hard for her or her colleagues - but its easy to hit the poor through increased living costs.

If we refined our oil we wouldn't need to import petroleum products with foreign currency at extortionate prices.

Hence the need for the subsidies until we have our own refining infrastructure in place.

you have said it all.

people need to know what is going on here. lets not display our ignorance to issues that would affect the country even to dye and pepper sellers

it is that bad

[quote author=Chyz* link=topic=743808.msg8999378#msg8999378 date=1314217333]@OP, you're an idiott. Obviously this report is beyond your comprehension. The subsidies are going to be removed no time soon but until the economy(which includes the citizens) is booming and more defined. Have you ever heard of the "Reform Agenda"? Read the quote below slowly, then read it again. That should help with understanding why there is even a subsidy:[/quote][quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=743808.msg8999383#msg8999383 date=1314217383]I don't understand why everyone is so married to the idea of subsidizing Benin Republic, Cameroon, Niger Republic.

A fuel subsidy isn't the best way to impact the masses. Does even 5% of it reach the "masses" right now?[/quote]chyz and ekt bear

fuel subsidies is needed in Nigeria right now and for the next at least 20-30 years. infact because OBJ raise the fuel price from 20N to 80 N duing his ternue that what makes him unpopular

the masses ie the people don't want to pay extra for the fuel we produce again. The people are already in hard times and yet you people want the FG to increase the price again to further put burden on the people.

increase in fuel price would affect the whole economy from the middle class to the poor, even pupils and students

prices of food would jump up, etc

people i agree with sun-of god here

after all the billions and billlion people like alams have can subsidy our fuel for a year or more not to talk of ibb, tinubu and co

[quote author=X-factoria link=topic=743685.msg8998590#msg8998590 date=1314209845]I disagree with you on the bolded. ACN is just controlling 6 states and they are imposing candidates everywhere. If they get to the size of PDP with 24 states or so, they will destroy the country. Wasn't their Governor in Ogun State formerly a Senator under PDP? Isn't Aregbesola playing god to workers in Osun currently?

No one is better than the other. The difference between them is size and the amount of wealth they control. Pure and simple!!![/quote]To be honest, to are right on the second though. the fact is that ACN is feeding off Fashola and that is it.

it is sad that even the newly elected are as the same as the old. shame

the funny thing is that, after all this madness our ex governor of ACN. He still command so much respect how is that done

although ACN still better than PDP. but c'mon if ur driver can have all those benefit then wonder what ur mistresses , gardener, PA would all have

muilti billionairs and the money is from Lagos state tax payers. I mean were are u going to get all the money from at the first place

afam4eva:
@OP
Are u educated? You people should learn to speak about yourselves rather than a whole group.

+ 1 well said

[quote author=aloy-emeka link=topic=743685.msg8997958#msg8997958 date=1314204796]What if he inherited the wealth from his family?.[/quote]so if YOU INHERITE 18 houses and 3 filling station from ur family or know your father or mother has such, would you be a driver

YES or NO

Eko Ile:
lol @ the usual market women rumor mongers.

i knew you would be here to defend the ex-governor of lasgidi the state of mind

in every rumor, there is an element of truth.

everything from the jeep to planes, bellview, higtect etc now this cannot all be rumors

haba eko ile. say the truth for once

na wa oo even driver get 18 houses and 3 filling station tinubu una do well oo

Nuit50:
I want all nairalanders to note that innoson is doing full time manufacturing,only the engine block(not engine as a whole-and does not amount upto 5% of the whole vehicle parts) is imported. I even heard the man in a t v interview said that in 2yrs time the engine block will be manufactured in nigeria,and that was 2010,so by 2012 it takes effect if God wills.KUDOS TO INNOSON.

Insha Allah, Innoson cars would be known worldwide.

okpurukata:
Thanks Alj Harem for giving us an even better link. This man should be applauded and encouraged. The truth remains that for our country to achieve its vision 202020 goals. The private sector must be encouraged and developed. The Asian Tigers started this way. KUDOS once more Innoson. Let's drop our ethnic garb for once and appreciate what is good.

didn't see this, but a good way to go

afam4eva:
The thread is about infrastructure and not population.

i thought it was about development which inculdes infrastruture, IGR, population, sustainable etc not population per-say

Toaskarity:
i wonder how kano better than delta

Lol i am talking based on population, migration, market size, etc not just infrastrutures

chino11:
^^

Alhaji, now your back on track, your being quite un-biased. But why not this way round, because am sure Anambra is ahead of Ogun and Kano with number of economic advantages, e.g: Onitsha Port, biggest commercial/economic market in West African sub-region, Nnewi also being industrial hub of the SE/SS e.g( Vehicle Manufacturing/mechanical companies) :

rivers, anambra, ogun, kano, delta, cross river

ok lets follow ur list as i have not been to ever square inch of anambra

Jarus:
^
Why I no go fast because of birthday?

good to know brother.

jarus se omo oluabi ko de ma se je je. Insha Allah gbogbo nka to ma da hand e se, re re loma ja se. Amin

chino and others again forget lagos because of many factors

abuja should not even be called developed as Abagworo righly said because it is FCT.

Now removing lagos and abuja.

it would be rivers, ogun, kano, anambra, delta, cross river

this is also done looking at the market size and the level of money this generate for the country

chino11:
Nwanne kedu ije? I didn't attack my fellow SE, but this particular Abagworo (from Ala Owerre) has the propensity of saying negative things about Anambra, so we are hitting him hard with ills in his Imo state. Again there is one thing good about Yorubas they understanding the hierarchy and ranking, for instance: Lagos>Ogun>Oyo> and so on in accordance with economic and political relevance. Here in SE : Anambra>Abia>Enugu>Imo>Ebonyi, this is the order of economic and political relevance in the SE. So we should respect ourselves in this order.

chino for real you want to kill pesin for here

Man love you, May God contiune to bless you brother

what a killer

Toaskarity:
then -
ekoile-tinubu son
beaf-jonathan son
chino-ojukwu son

that is it my brother. that is the way i we should be looking at them

if fashola/ACN does wrong, eko ile would be the first to jump out like he is fashola himself

if jonthan/ PDP cough , beaf would be the first with tissue paper and insult anyone that does not say "excuss me"

if anambra/ngige is angry, every single must be sacrificed to appease the gods chino

that is nairaland for you

Toaskarity:
so u observe that   its too much! but that ekoile dont talk negative about sw,

LOL eko ile would have lashed out even worse on SW if it was not under ACN

trust me on this beaf, eko ile and chino are characters on there own

happy birthday jarus, also hope say u fast today
have a fun day brother

chino11:
Alhaji, your making sense for the first time on NL. I agree with on that point, population does not discourage people from moving away from economically vibrant cities. Case-study: New York, London. Back home Lagos, Onitsha, Port Harcourt, Kano, the intimidating population of the afore-mentioned cities has not discouraged any intending investors, those cities are still where investor will wish to go and invest due to high population and volume of economic activities which surpasses other cities in the federation.

thanks you understand my point

koolguy88:
@Alj harem, you need to go to Anambra state and see for yourself, the Igbo man has really developed his homeland, wif the combination of towns like onitsha, state capital, Awka and other local government areas, even villages, i think Anambra state has really developed more than other states apart from lagos

Actually i have been to anambra , nnewi.

u talk of onitsha which to me is just a big market and not even as big as sabon gari

awka can not even be compared to any kaduna city. quote me on this.

apart of lagos and abuja, lets be objective here. In your eyes anambra is developed if u have not traveled far

go to kano, kaduna, adamawa, ogun, cross river. that is development

tell me any major infrastructure where you can have leisure time in anambra.

( i am not hating just discussing)

Abagworo:
While I diagree on Anambra not being 2nd most developed but the reason for migration is rather over-population.Anambra and northern Imo State(Orlu area) is over-populated and hence the migration of people out of that region.

Ha, over population rarly move people away from a region.
You see brother, if a group of people are suffering or have seen a better region, it does not matter if that better region is over populated, people would still move to that region regardless of the circumstance, it is called survival

that is how the human brain works

take a look at populated cities of the world, london, new york,

majority of people still move there regardless of the over population, although a small potion of the people still move away (as u said over population) but this is insignificant to the people moving to the region or state of plenty

manny4life:
I believe that others proved to you why it's 2nd place and you thought otherwise.

No brother they did not prove anything to me. again majority of people are using the bases of IGR alone as a measurment of development which is wrong

I said IMO that to measure development of a state or region factors that need to be considered are

1. IGR

2. Population

3. Number of people moving in to the state daily

4. Amount of business distract

5. Infrastructures, amenities

6 the Vialability of the state or region

this to me come together not just infrastructures and IGR alone

or am i wrong because i am willing to learn