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[quote author=ode remo link=topic=739951.msg8967869#msg8967869 date=1313839528][/quote]the largest igbo population and concentration is in lagos of 7.3 million/40% people out of 18 million. anambra is 4.2 million highest in the SE states

mbatuku1:
Abagworo, stop saying that. That an Igbo is the head of landlords' association doesn't mean that all the landlords must be Igbos. They might have chose him probably for his leadership qualities. I wagger that yorubas own more properties in that community.  

The bottomline is always do your research well before buying any land anywhere. Ask for the deed of conveyance, take it to the courts to find out if there's any on-going dispute over the land before committing your money. This has nothing to do with being Igbo or Kanuri.

some sense finally

OAM4J:
^Sweetheart, how could I ever conspire to deny your request when I love to do everything to encourage more females participation in political discussions?

Your thread is just not ripe for home page at this time of political dispensation, but i will take a look at the topic again and see what can be done about it.

ok i would stop. got ur message on the other thread

odumchi:
A few Anioma towns like Agbor had contact with Binis but with the Yorubas, no.
No Igbo group had direct contact with the Yorubas.

yes u are right maybe because they were not igbos at the first place

Anioma people as noted earlier do not share similar origins, histories, ancestries and linguistics for obvious reasons; in fact, about 13 languages are spoken by the people and include Igbo (Enuani,) Ozzara, Olukunmi (an extinct old Yoruba Language,) Igara, Ika, Ukwuani, Edo, Odiani, Utagba, Aboh etc still the Anioma have been woven by oneness which has uniquely manifested into a globe of one community.

An Ukwuani man however as Monn Olodu remarks

“The culture, food, dressing, names, market days are basically the same. An Ukwuani woman does not need an interpreter to trade at Asaba or Abavo markets” Please note that the culture and languages of Igbo, Edo and Yoruba may have started diverged at a period as postulated here by sanders in his studies of “who are the Nigerian?”:

He wrote that:

“Ibo, Anioma, Yoruba and Edo languages and culture may have started diverging about five thousand years ago; this claim is further strengthened by the archaeological discoveries of the Bronze in Ezerra, by Dr. Hertle.
http://www.ibusa.net/mysite/anioma.htm

Beaf:
We only want to know if you are a 419 na!
The investigation will determine if NLers should take seriously or treat your every word like they would treat the words of a common fool, madman or 419.
You just wake up every morning and lie profusely. Na wa o!

Why is it so hard for you to own up?
Abeg, post a pic of you as a soldier and others of when you were building the flood defences that saved Italy.

Dunce.

dude shut the F up and answer the bloody question. Gej

why do u keep dodging the question and accusation by ur kinsmen

mumu

odumchi if u notice, igbos did have trade with the binis then

odumchi:
I provided you with the link that states it was taken in that era. Do you have any evidence that disproves it? Besides Ogbos didn't trade with Binis and Yorubas. I told you they traded with other Easterners. Here's a link of Igbo trade routes prior to 1900.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/33/Igbo_Trade_Routes_before_1900.svg

this was the trading back then way before 1920's and pre-colonial era

https://www.robertdickread.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/image007-376x450.jpg

[quote author=tpia@ link=topic=465853.msg8965593#msg8965593 date=1313794268]plastic slippers werent invented until the 1940s or 50s.

i looked it up.[/quote]www.nairaland.com/attachments/372914_Aba_Station_jpgb794cf2aeba0281086773d952972e2ea

trade with the white people, pretty industrialised then

[quote author=tpia@ link=topic=465853.msg8965547#msg8965547 date=1313793772]the picture was not taken during the aba women's riot, and indeed has nothing to do with it.


besides, the link it was taken from is right there under the photo.

the women are wearing rubber slippers- that wouldnt have been possible back then. The footwear isnt that old.[/quote]although rubber slippers would have been possible through trade with the white men.

it is the horse tail i know did not come from aligbo likly from trade as chyz's link suggested

[quote author=tpia@ link=topic=465853.msg8965547#msg8965547 date=1313793772]the picture was not taken during the aba women's riot, and indeed has nothing to do with it.


besides, the link it was taken from is right there under the photo.

the women are wearing rubber slippers- that wouldnt have been possible back then. The footwear isnt that old.[/quote]gbamm well said

odumchi:
^^^
Ignorance is bliss.

Here's a link of where the pic is from. It was a picture taken in 1929 of the Igbo women of the Aba women's riot. Abi it's still Yoruba/Bini huh? Aniova

http://igbokwenu.wikispaces.com/Aba+Women+Rebellion

i think ignorance is bliss indeed

did u read chyz link at all

the link tells us of the trading like backe then before 1920's thus my suggestion was right. it could only have been gotten for trades and no other means

the land and topograpgy does not support it.

Andre Uweh:
Alh Harem, look at this photograph closely, you will see that it is similar to the one recently posted by Tpia@. Most southern women dress in that fashion during the colonial era.

Thanks but didn't see anything there

Abagworo:
I believe that most of you non-Igbos do not know what we Igbos experience in Nigeria.El-Rufai wrote it clearly that Igbos are being persecuted and I hav e experienced that.I want a Nigeria of merit where competition is allowed without restrictions.Let the best take everything and help the others manage it well.I look forward to the day 172 houses belonging to Yorubas or Hausas is demolished in Port-Harcourt.Do they even have up to that no of houses here?I'm happy having only one property in Abuja.At most they can have it.Any wise Igbo man should not invest beyond Rivers,Akwaibom,Cross River and Anioma.If your brother takes your property,it remains in the family.

[quote author=dem_people link=topic=739951.msg8964344#msg8964344 date=1313783318]Jay Baba,

I dee o.

Its not that I think it was specifically done to target Ndigbo. Its just that we as a people tend to be at the receiving end of most unpopular government moves in Nigeria. Even in times of disorder and violence in a community, we're targeted first.

Coupled with the saga of the civil war as regards abandoning/ confiscation of properties of Ndigbo, one is inclined to think first that the motives and actions of the government/communities, are synonymous with the crimes of those times. This is why Ndigbo tend to complain about these things but others are quick to label us as a people with a victim mentality whereas, its entirely not the case.[/quote]People if don't collect C of O from the government and build on a land that is not apporiate then what do u expect. really what do u expect. 172 houses is likly to be an estate. this was said earlier before commencing

[size=15pt]FCT PLANS TO DEMOLISH 3000 HOUSES[/size]


JULY 11 2011

The planned demolition of illegal estates in Abuja has pitched the Federal Capita Territory Administration (FCTA) against estate developers. Musa Simon Reef reports on the subtle war over the planned exercise.
The Development Control Department of the Federal Capital Territory Administration (FCTA) is set to pull down no fewer than 3,000 houses constructed along President Umaru Musa Yar’Adua Way.  The planned demolition, according to a source, followed what an insider described as the springing up of many illegal estates along the Outer Southern Expressway (OSEX).
Ahead of the planned demolition, Blueprint reliably learnt,  the control unit has commenced verification of the houses constructed by no fewer than 20 estates, which the FCTA described as illegal. A staffer of the unit, who spoke on condition of anonymity, confided in this reporter that taking into consideration the violation of relevant laws by estate developers in the nation’s capital, the FCTA has no option than to commence demolition of the structures.
According to the worker, “We are talking about no fewer than 3,000 housing units built without building plan approval. If the authority does not move fast and put an end to this illegality, other developers would be encouraged to do same and Nigerians would be duped of their hard earned money.”
“Of grave concern,” according to the source, “is the issue of numerous estates springing up along Airport Road. It is not only illegal houses that are sold; plots are also sold to desperate people whose papers are simply forged. It is criminal.”
The FCTA recently expressed concern over the construction of illegal estates and warned that measures have been put in place to demolish the structures. To actualise its threat, the Development Control recently embarked on the demolition of Liberty Estate in Lugbe and warned estate firms against embarking on housing projects without approval.
A source told Blueprint that most of the estates affected are along the Airport Road. Investigation by this reporter has revealed that no fewer than 20 estates have sprung up in recent time.
According to a source, “Many estate developers have not obtained approval to do what they are doing. They are simply taking advantage of their closeness to top officials in the presidency and some members of the National Assembly. We know that they are simply conniving with some bad eggs in the system to dupe unsuspecting Nigerians.”
The FCTA recently issued a caveat on the construction of illegal estates, warning Nigerians to be wary of the activities of firms involved in the construction of houses in Abuja.
The announcement on the planned demolition of illegal estates has sparked off a round of controversy between the FCTA and the Abuja Municipal Area Council (AMAC) over who should exercise the right of granting building plan approval. A source at AMAC accused the FCTA of mischief in frustrating Nigerians who have invested billions of naira in the estate business.
According to a statement by the FCTA, “The Federal Capital Territory Administration hereby alerts government agencies, private developers and unsuspecting members of the public to beware of fraudsters luring them into buying estate houses and plots in unrecognised layouts with fake area council allocation papers and backdated building plan approvals between Lugbe and the Nnamdi Azikiwe Airport, along the Outer Southern Expressway (OSEX), Kuje Road, Bwari and Gwagwalada.
“The public is hereby cautioned against patronising the fraudsters as the plot allocations and developments in such estates are illegal since there has never been any official layout for estate beyond the Federal Housing Authority (FHA) land at Lugbe and the Malaysian Garden along OSEX.”
Warning people to be guided against attempt to lure them into buying houses and plots, the FCTA warned:  “Any individual or corporate body involved in any land racketeering or fake building plan approval in these areas will be arraigned before the anti-graft agencies for trial while designers and supervisors of such projects, in addition to this, be handed over to their professional bodies for further disciplinary actions.
“Meanwhile, the Department of Development Control has been directed to sustain the removal of illegal structures within all affected layouts and estates. No compensation shall be paid on any structure removed from such estates.
The implication of the caveat, according to sources, is that many estates along the President Umaru Musa Yar’Adua Way are illegal and would soon be pulled down in conformity with the warning from the FCTA. Apart from the FHA Estate  in Lugbe that has a building plan approved, the source added, many estates are set to be demolished if the government goes ahead with its threat.
“Let me tell you that the Development Control unit  is serious in carrying out its threat. I can confirm to you that we have been under serious pressure to withdraw the caveat, but the authorities are not ready to bow down to any form of pressure. We know what we are up against, but we cannot be intimidated,” said a top official of the unit penultimate Thursday.
[size=13pt]Illegal estates[/size]
From the caveat on illegal estate and structures, residents and owners of houses in affected estates have become jittery, with some debunking the threat from the FCTA. A woman, who secured a mortgage to purchase a house in Aso Estate in Lugbe described the threat as something that would soon pass.
“Where were they when the estates were built? Are they saying that Nigerians have no right to own their houses? What the FCTA wants is simply to revoke plots allocated by AMAC. There is no way they can do that? Do they think that this is another Chika, Piwoyi, Kuchigoro or Pyakasa? They are simply joking,” She fumed.
Some of the estates described as illegal by the FCTA’s caveat include the Aso Estate, Philkruz Estate, Leverpool Estate, Shelter Millennium Estate, Wisdom Estate, Trademore Estate, Palm Height Estate, Cowries Court Estate, Graceland Estate, Waltermann (Evergreen) Estate and Fort Royal Estate.
A staffer of Fort Royal Homes, who identified himself as Yinka, dismissed allegations that the estate did not obtain a building plan approval. Debunking the allegation as “a rooster and bull story,” he said no reputable estate firm,  could embark on such construction without obtaining a building approval.
“I can authoritatively inform you that we got all the necessary approvals before embarking on this construction. All our papers are complete. Maybe somebody wants to be mischievous on the matter.”
When asked where they obtained the building plan approval before commencing construction, the worker said, “The fact is that we obtained a building plan  approval before we started this project. Anybody saying that we are building illegally is not telling you the truth. We do not have any form of fear as our papers are complete.”
At the Aso Estate, a resident who gave his name as Emma said he heard news of the planned demolition as rumour., adding, “Unfortunately, this is a government that has no plan to provide houses for its citizens, but is only interested in pulling down houses. These estates have approvals from AMAC and if there is problem with their approvals; the FCTA should simply regularise the papers and allow them to be.
“It is not possible to demolish these estates. They are simply sending fears down the spines of people to frighten them. I am sure they are only joking and I hope it remains a joke.”
At AMAC Housing Estate, ACO, a source said that the original building plan of the estate has been abused, with mini estates built in the project. The source revealed that plans are on stream to review and remove illegal structures that were not initially approved by AMAC when the building plan approval was given.
“As the unit responsible for the orderly development of the nation’s capital, we cannot fold our arms and allow illegal structures to spring up unchallenged. We shall soon embark on cleansing the Abuja master plan. It is only by so doing we can get rid of these illegal buildings that have defaced the estate,” said an official of Development Control.
The source explained that some estate developers are conniving with some officials of AMAC to backdate approvals of building plans to commence development. “It is this illegality that has caused the problem. If the estate developers got approvals 10 years ago to commence construction, and they are just starting now, they ought to revalidate these approvals with Development Control for proper documentation.

Estate developers kick
Following the threat by FCTA to commence demolition of structures, estate developers have cried out against the planned action of the government, saying it would negate the vision of providing houses for Nigerians.
An official of the Estate Developers Association, who craved anonymity, said the FCTA is simply attempting the impossibility, adding that where FCTA suspects a building plan approval has been forged, the best option is to approach AMAC for clarifications and not bring in politics on the matter.
“You should note that before the former minister, Malam Nasir El-Rufai, expunged the rights of area councils to allocate plots and grant approvals on building plans, all area councils in the FCT were involved in allocating lands in the territory. You should also note that the area where these estates are located were once under the control of AMAC.
“Would you now nullify the actions of AMAC and other area councils that granted plots and approvals for structures? I think Development Control has a hidden agenda and that unit should be queried,” the estate developer said.
On allegations by the FCTA that the approval for these estates are granted from the backdoor through the active collaboration of workers at the Abuja Geographic Information System (AGIS), the estate developer said the FCTA was only finding an excuse to justify its planned demolition along the Outer Southern Expressway.
“Let me tell you the truth, the FCTA has suddenly realised that the Airport Way has become a prime area of attraction for the big men and they want to take control of plots earlier allocated by AMAC. We understand that very soon the FCTA will revoke all the plots that were allocated by AMAC. We saw it during the era of El-Rufai, and we have been made to understand that the FCTA is planning a repeat scenario of the El-Rufai days.
“El-Rufai demolished buildings in Pyakasa, Aleita, Piwoyi, Chika and other towns along the Airport Road in 2006 and 2007, but ended up allocating the plots to big people. Go to Pyakasa and Piwoyi, a plot in these areas now costs not less than N5 million. The nation’s capital bureaucrats have run short of plots and they now want to confiscate plots along the Airport Road. That is the simple truth of the matter,” the source alleged.
‘Development Control carries out orders’
Efforts to get the director of Development Control, Malam Yahaya Yusuf, to comment on the issue failed, as he was said to be having meetings. A text to his phone was not responded just as he did not answer his phone when this reporter called him over a period of two weeks.
Spokesman of the Development Control, Ifeanyi Ughamadu, told Blueprint that the department is set up to sanitise the master plan.
On the planned demolition of structures, Ughamadu said the caveat issued by the FCTA was self-explanatory and does not need any interpretation.
“We are only following orders and directives,” he said.

http://blueprintng.com/index/2011/07/fcta-set-to-demolish-3000-houses/

beaf delta is suffering

[img]http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSd6Uhvluy8O2jWZ_KoYZ9qrQm_FbkG-gYb3MTVGs8jW3ce5aWU[/img]

Beaf:
^
See this man whose state is producing boko haram! You sef de open maut?! LOLZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ!!!!!!
Unu go wound o!

Deltans? Lol!
Quite a few NLers tell fibs for a leaving, never believe stray claims. Take Rhino.5dm the 419 for instance, he claims to be from Ondo, Ogun, Maiduguri etc. He claims to be under 30, yet a retired soldier. He is a "champ" computer artist, yet he built flood defences to save Italy, while juggling time as an independent petroleum engineering expert. . .
. . .Stories ti poju from the mouths of scoundrels and liers like the most of you.

If una like, kill una sef! Delta state remains the 3rd most developed in the damn country.

a beg ur story ti poju jor

give the answer to kpogede and omens post

i HAVE SAID IT Nigerians would kept suffering if we allow people like u in our mist

Kasiem2:
Harem, it seems u are afraid of aligning with the yorobos again? O'boy, every dey comot for my way. Atleast, this will help combating tribalism here,then, i'll try being my normal self. The fear of retaliatory words from kasiem, will make yoruba tribalists to think normal. MY COUNTRY IS MY LIFE

what country are u talking about ? Nigeria or Biafra

pleep:
^ what is wrong with you? why are u still pretending u are not yoruba?

we all know who u are.

good u know

chai Delta and indeed southern nigeria don suffer for likes of OBJ, jonathan and beaf

when southerners and nigerians keep having people like beaf in our mist who defend corrupt politicians then we should know we are in big trouble with this jonathan we elected

Delta has never been this bad before even with ibori

Kasiem2:
Pls can i see where i insulted a sane person's parents? The reason they gave me for the ban was tribalism.

dude please stop this rubbish. there have been peace on this forum until u brought tribalism back. so why are u complaining.

everyone respected each other until u raised ur ugly head to insult a WHOLE ETHNIC GROUP like some of ur brothers and sistrs have been doing

u should be banned

Sun of god:
Off course you will say your pikin looks human - but i beg to differ.

lol .U see i don't discriminate unlike u. I view everyone equally because we were all made from God but once this insulting other tribes starts then i kick in.

Now even the kid, I do not pray for anyone to have sure. not even my worse enemy or you.

Sun of god:
Certainly not - but because the child looked like some form of devil I immediately suspected that it was your offspring.

devil , looks like human to me. goat like u. I am not a devil. infact i bring sanity to this forum

so much hate on this thread. serves una right

next time u would respect other people's leaders

Sun of god:
Continue denying it - Once i saw the picture you were the first person that came to mind.

I can see the resemblance.

Why was that, have u been thinking of me that much

onya ara

Andre Uweh:
@Tpia@, I think that attire is a Southern Nigerian thing during the colonial era.

Nope it is not a southern nigerian thing but a Yoruba/bini thing. No other group could have gotten it as hair tail animals don't live in the south.

To my hausa-fulani brothers/sisters and all other Northerners. Do not let them tell u rubbish here

the ethnic group is HAUSA-FULANI and not hausa alone or fulani alone BUT A JOINT WORD CALLED HAUSA-FULANI

do not be deceived by this people of the south

enff said.

Sun of god:
Get away - that thing was created by you.

Dont blame that on your god.

kai, I have no power to create, but if i had i would have made u different most likely an Osu