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[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=767884.msg9219473#msg9219473 date=1317005041]Better song to pass the time jare

Ekiti kete!![/quote]been time

[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=767884.msg9219472#msg9219472 date=1317004997]I don't think Nigeria is a well-run country and I think we could do achieve more apart than together.[/quote]Nah, do not let Onlylies (ndo) and his brothers fool u,

Nigeria is moving at a great rate only that we have some individuals mostly the elites that are playing with out heads while they steal the money.

Right now I hope Allah gives Jonathan the strength to do the right thing. We all should support him, that is the best we can do right now.

killuyut, i can see u are done with your madness and your genocidal thought sick animal



good Night my brother killayut

don't forget to dream of the whole SS being Ijaw land

Onlytruth:
Posted by: alj_harem
I believe that Biafra would be better; but not by fiat, but by SHARE HARDWORK.
That is why I am willing to share the oil with the North.

Good and you watch as things would go from this state to dubia.

Apart from the oil, gold, uranium, tin, lead etc the north has

large expanse of land

good soil for farming

large work force

good morals in the society ( trust me it is need for economic growth)

couple with the hard working nature of the kanuri

the sky is the limit

lagcity:
for some reason, ppl always underestimate the North. It will be much easier for the North to develop if they rally behind a visonary leader like Sardauna while the Southerners are still bu.llshiting with their everyone is king mentality.

thanks you

lagcity

Killuyut Yes

ideeiot like you would call me apoi ijaw but I rather be apoi ijaw, awori or bini and being Ijaw like u.

You are too blind to see what is going on.

I guess it is a form of sense of identity or what ?

killayut:
You people  are really sick, Benin empire was and all we knew about it and as written in history was  their carving and  mud houses and  due to their stupidity they were massacred  and their king taken in to exile, Now what is good about that history  you tramp. READ  about the NIGER DELTA  TRADING STATES and learn about IJAW civilization . You are a typical AWORI fool who lives in lagos  that think  JOS, Kano, Port harcourt are not cities, You only know about what you know and think nothing else exists.  . NO ONE QUESTIONED  Benin civilization and its never been of any matter so why even brought that up ?

I can see you have resulted to insults. Typical of those that do not know what they are talking about.

Thanks for addressing me with that. I rather be an Awori fool than be in an ethnic group with people like you.

Now you know I am Awori, then it would be very good for you to know of my bini and ijaw linage as well

Yes I have Ijaw blood in me

Go read my previous threads on history and differnt ijaw linage and how they came to be and tell me if I do not know about ijaw history.

once you are done, then come back.

Just to show you how silly u, point out the lands the apoi arogbo ijaws have in ondo and any other area.

Onlytruth:
Posted by: ekt_bear
My analogy may not be 100% accurate, but it is the closest.
You keep making the mistake of assigning current economic indices to newly emerged nations.
That is wrong, because Lagos for one would lose billions of dollars in economic and financial activity to the East (Biafra) and other nations. The same would apply to most of SW.
The Navy would be funded by direct money from the offshore oil proceeds. You think say aboki go pay for am? LOL.

Minus SE and parts of SS; SW would not be economically better than the North believe me.

what makes u think that any southern state would be better than the north ?

do u even know the untrap resources the North has ?

[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=767884.msg9219429#msg9219429 date=1317003800]Fair enough. If you believe:

and
Then we are just working with a different set of facts/beliefs.

Anyway, fortunately for the purposes of this thread, it doesn't matter. So long as we all agree that Nigeria should be divided.[/quote]why would u want Nigeria to divide

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killayut:
First I did not and have never seen any AWORI in AJEGUNLE but Ijaws, Ode Oshi

I rest my case cos you are a factual slowpoke,

Lol maybe you need to update urself on ur website call Ijaw whatever .com

who are the ijaws in ajegunle ? Migrates or what

killayut:
Illiterate   read  my lines  again,  I asked you to compare the Fulani of Sokoto and Fulani of MALI,  and I said they do not both speak HAUSA,

Guy guy guy!!!! read what i wrote and stop this rubbish u are displaying.

There is a difference. Fulani is a fulani and they occupy a great expanse of land from senegal etc and[b] they all understand fula langauge[/b] and share culture

thus a fulani man in sokoto is in the same ethnic group as a fulani man in mali.

Now the same can not be said of the ijaw because IJAWS DON'T UNDERSTAND THEIR LANGUAGE

if u read well, i said they speak the same language. You as a kalabari man, can u speak like a ndoki or awori man ?

do u understand apoi ijaw or gelegele  

do u understand my language and my heritage ?

do u have any cultural similarity with me or ilaje man?

killayut:
Pig I said what ever  he posted  sounded  apologetic  to me and that does not mean I am saying he is  apologetic  by his posting, Illiterate,

And now dig this,  This thread as I know is  about Bini and Ijaws and not about Igbos  you womanliness,  I will never be a part of anything Igbo  so SCRAM  you nuisance,  This  has got nothing to do with Igbos  so your insinuation is rubbish. you are just uncouth  and uncultured intruder .

listen and listen good !

the Bini empire is Nigeria heritage and a source of pride to many of us Nigerians because of their civilisation and level of cultural advancement

this is a public forum where everyone can discuss and point out revisionist like you and ur cousin beaf

We are not as silly as other people with identity crisis here. We point out mistakes and faults in ur argument about history.

killayut:
Bros,  Honestly  I am beginning to really  think  you are not  normal,

Let me just give you an example,   what is the difference  between  a Sokoto  Fulani and a Malian Fulani ?  They both do not speak Hausa  mind  you,

dude please do not talk of what u know nothing of

A fulani man in Nigeria typically speaks 2 languages which fula and hausawa. Unless u mean the ones that have mixed with the hausa and thus are no longer fulani but hausa-fulani.

there is a difference, do not get it wrong.

killayut:
And  if you to HAITI and hear people  not speaking no AFRICAN  language  but FRENCH  would mean they are FRENCH people  to  you  huh ? Then you wont understand if they say they are AFRICANs   like you,  This  man please  take in to cognizance  the circumstances  that could  cause  or make a people   speak some thing different from their native language,  In Delta  state  the KIAGBODOR   Ijaw  from where CHIEF CLARK lives and which is his own home town  do not speak Ijaw  but uhrobo,  The mainstream  Uhrobos   have not laid  claim to them  on that ground. That is  good neighborliness  and I respect the Uhrobos  for that,   PLEASE  make the Ijaws  who speak  your language  your good neighbors and appreciate the fact that they speak  your language  instead  of using that   to claim their  land  to their detriment. That is the same Igbo tactics in Rivers state.  Go by what the people say they are. If they say they are HAUSAS  you must take it and I must take it. If they say they are Yorubas  pls accept it and if they say they are IJAWS  let the heavens  not fall down,

You are clearly confused. is it the same urhobo you people were killing in Ogbe Ijo, Gbarigolo, Olota, Okweagbe  all in delta state u are here calling good neighbours.

As a poster said, the West is different from the east. We do not suffer from identity crisis.

you call US awori ijaws but yet we fought not to be called ijaws in ajegunle

you call mahin and ilaje ijaws yet they fought and killed not to be called that name in ondo state

you tried to claim the itsekiris to be ijaws but they fought and even went to meet distant OPC in Ogbomosho to help them in warri.

So who are the apoi ijaw and arogbo ijaw and what land do they occupy because there is nothing like that in lagos, ogun and ondo state

I even brought out a map and local governments to point out what land mass they occupy in ondo state, yet no answer

who are the people claiming ijaw in lagos or any where in the SW. Point them out

who are the ijaws in awka ibom. please show me the land they occupy ?

killayut:
Local government areas, state government areas and even  Councils  are not created  along ethnic lines  or  for  natives   in Nigeria,  Your stupidity and ignorance  blocked  your head and deprived  you of this knowledge,  The former BENDEL STATE  comprised  Edo, Ishan, Igbo, Ijaw, Uhrobo, Isoko and even Yoruba and Igala  tribes  while  former  Rivers  state  comprised  Ijaws, Igbos, Ogoni, Abua  tribes.  former Plateau state  comprised  Fulani, Hausa, Birom and other smaller  Tribes. Gongola state comprised just as many different tribes  as  well  like Niger State,  The same way  Ondo state  comprised  Ekiti, Ondo, Ijaw, Edo ethnic groups,   In former warri division, the entire  former WARRI  Lga  comprised  Uhrobo, Itsekiri and Ijaw tribes just as  the sourthern coast of  Ondo state had  Ilaje, Ijaw and other Yoruba tribes,  No LGA, STATE government has  been constitutionally created  along tribal lines,  Primitive  people  like you fools who do not even know how government operate are the goats causing all the unforeseen problem,  This is why   you tribalist   outside the zones of where oppressed  people  clamor  for state creation or LGA  creation  cry wolves and become  nuisance . . Your mind, reasoning and every thing you do are centered  along tribal lines . AND  SO  I REPEAT  ,  Local government creation  and state government creation in Nigeria  is not done  along tribal lines and never done for  tribal people,  GO BACK to school and learn  your NAIJA constitution before  you come here to argue  or for ever keep mute cos you have proved  incapable of arguing on the subject   (  GELE GELE )   This is because  GELEGELE has never been a problem to any Benin  and no Ijaw has ever denied a Bini  from living in gele gele,  HUMAN beings  living in GELE GELE  who are in need of better living condition, education, electricity, roads, and  normal develoment   felt the best way is for the federal government  to give them a state so they could govern themselves and have a share of the federal allocation for that purpose. This would bring development to the area  and even give edo state  face lift,  BUT tribalism and blindness made some primitive  people think otherwise and now backed  by  dumbos  like  you.  Were  the LGAs  created  in Lagos  created for  the AWORIS and Eguns    alone . could the awori and egun population alone be able to give Lagos  state that much LGA  it has ??

LOL i can see i can not reason with u like a human being

1. There are NO IJAWS IN ONDO OR WARRI. Get this into your head

2. Lagos local governments and indeed the federation were all done based on ethnic group and tribes. Like the example you made, lagos state has 21 local government of which about 19 are awori-egun local government as 2 of ijebu and egba

3. Every ethnic group in ondo has there local government and clan identity. just like in every other state.

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that is the ethnic and local government distribution of Ondo state from Ondo state offical website. I did not make it up and so did the history books

there is nothing like Ijaw in ondo state. you hear me ko!

4. Warri/ Iweri is itsekiri and Urhobo town and there is nothing like Ijaw historically in warri . Ijaws are riverine people and not coastal people. What the hell are u people doing on the coast .

5. There are little or not ijaw in delta state. I am show u can see the map well, can't u

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About akwa ibom, there are not ijaws in akwa ibom, how did they pass through the efiks only to come out at the other side and thus claiming awka ibom.

What does calabar mean in Ijaw and don't tell me about that kalabaris nonsense

what does Warri mean in ijaw.

Time will tell

killayut:
ChinenyeN  is sounding APOLOGETIC,  I am just one of a million Ijaws  that can match your sarcasm  fire  for fire. You guys are taking Ijaw hospitality otherwise  and  so I have no regret  in doing what ever I did to counter your satire.

killayut I am not here to fight or throw insults but to understand your point

this is arogbo ijaw words[b] Bamire Oye re o[/b]

what does this mean in ijaw ? By the way it is similar to yoruba but not all yorubas can understand it unless of course ME and the ondo/ilaje/itsekiri yorubas!!!

Ilaje in delta state

Ilaje Local Government was created out of the defunct Ilaje/Ese-Odo Local Government Area on October 1, 1996 by the Federal Government. It consists of over four hundred towns and villages, covering an area of 3, 000 square kilometers. It shares boundary in the North with Okitipupa Local Government, the south by Atlantic Ocean, in the West by Ogun State and in the East by Delta State. It is covered by troughs and undulating low land surfaces. The extreme South is covered by silt, and mud and superficial sedimentary deposits.

There is sand formation at the Western part of the Local Government extending from the Lekki peninsula in Lagos State to Araromi Sea-side and Zion pepe, Agba to Etugbo and Ipare all, Mahin and Ugbonla the Eastern part of the Local Government Area can boast of the largest coconut plantation in West Africa. Ilaje Local Government is the largest local Government in Ondo State in terms of its landmass. According to the 1991 National Population Census, the Local Government is one of the most populated in Ondo State, with a population figure of two hundred and seventy seven thousand and thirty four (277,034. it has a shoreline covering about 180km thereby making Ondo State, a state with the longest coastline in Nigeria, Crude oil, which is the mainstay of the Nigerian economy.

Traditionally, it is grouped into 8 kingdoms namely: Mahin land under His Royal Majesty, Amapetu of Mahin, Ugboland which is under His Roayl Majesty Olugbo of Ugbo Kingdom. Aheri land under the Maporure and Etikan land under the Onikan of Etikan, Odonla land under the Alagho of Odonla, Obenla land under the Olubo of Obenla, Obe Ogbaro land under the Odoka of Obe Ogbaro, Igbokoda under the Olu of Igbokoda and Igboegunrin under the Odede of Igboegunrin.

http://ilajelocalgovernment.com/

killayut

I hope u can differnet between ijaw land and itsekiri, urhobo land very well

this are the fight u ijaws have cause because this ethic groups don't want to be call ijaw

1 Ijaws against Ilajes yoruba in Ondo State

2 Ijaws against Binis in Edo State

3 Ijaws against Itsekiris (yoruboid) in Delta State

4 Ijaws against Urhobos (Edoiod)(Ogbe Ijo, Gbarigolo, Olota, Okweagbe etc.),all in Delta State

5 Ijaws against Ekwerres igbo in Rivers State

6 Ijaws against Ogonis in Rivers State

7 Ijaws against Ibibios in Akwa Ibom State

8 Ijaws against Awori Yorubas in Ajegunle; Lagos State

yet u care still claiming this ethinc groups

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killayut:
This is no more  time to correct  your ignorance    but   time to  flog your Bottom verbally   because  you don't  even have the brain to understand. You are as silly as a Hausa cow.   All Ijaw  understand IZON, And  there is no Igbo or Yoruba in the NIGER DELTA. if there is  PLEASE   give me examples, of Igbo  or  Yoruba  towns in the NIGER DELTA ,

maybe u need to go to school

this is niger-delta

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Now u can see ondo, edo and delta state

Ilaje are in ondo costal, west of delta state

itsekiris are in delta state

akoko yoruba people are in ondo and edo state

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the above are ondo ethinc group which are all yorubas

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i also hope u know of anioma igbos and itsekiri in delta state. even ilaje in delta state

abia and imo are part of ND

not to forget rivers state

jmaine:
Very silly comment  and such a mess . . . .  Am a proud Nigerian as well . . .and we don't need your view point to get validated

+ 1000

that aloy-emeke/south-east is an agent of division

Onlytruth:
LOL @ jason, you are scared to death about living in a country without the Igbos.
That is why you are going gra gra about oil and sea access you don't currently (and will NEVER) control.
Abeg talk true bro.

I know you are a die hard believer in Southern Nigeria. Why not say so, than try to play tough with what you've already given away.

I know you don't want Nigeria to continue. So stop lying with your gra gra.  

gbamm tell him as it is

chino11:
Kasie, Awka is where the real action is. The new LG facility will open in the next one month. Its gonna be competing with those ones in Dubai and Hongkong.

nwannem chino11, Instead of all this

what do u think of an economic integration of anambra with edo and the rest of ACN states.

Onlytruth:
^^

I'll only make it to REAL power brokers in Nigeria, not internet miscreants like you. LOL!

am glad u know

Onlytruth:
^^

I am even open to "One Nigeria" provided I get what I want too.
I told you I am flexible beyond belief; IN REAL LIFE.
But MY PEOPLE's survival must come first.

If that is threatened, then even Nigeria will be threatened.

ok, what proposal ?

Onlytruth:
alj Harem

The truth is that Aboki and some Yorubas have not heard my proposal about how to divide Nigeria in peace.
I have some very juicy proposals for them.
I wish I get the opportunity to make those proposals one day.
It would be a win win win for us.

LOL

u know my stance brother

One Nigeria

Onlytruth:
Posted by: alj_harem
alj Harem,
There is nothing like "Niger Delta"; there is Ijaw land. There are many tribes in Niger delta region; and Igbo is one of the biggest tribes there. I just found out that some idiotic Ijaw was boasting about killing Igbos in their God given land in Rivers state.
I am thinking about beginning a campaign to change back the oil derivation sharing formula.
It hasn't ensured any peace in that region.

BTW the offshore oil belongs to ALL Nigerians. 

of course Niger-delta is just a geographical expression coined to give Ijaws more land

there are igbos in the Niger-delta and also yorubas . but Ijaws are claiming the whole region to be ijaw land

according to Egbon misuwa, it is call chancing

I have said it before and i would say it again, ijaw ethic group is a fraud

an ethnic group where a gelegele ijaw does not understand or share any cultural simialrity with a kalabari man

or where an okirika man does not share culture, food, language name etc with gelegele ijaw. yet they are call ijaws

My advice for igbos is to keep ur head high and stop looking lower than ur legs

Igbos ethinic group is one of the largest in Nigeria and as such should be not rubbished. All this "big brother" mentality is killing the igbos. that is a fact

Ijaws and other groups hope to take ur place as soon as they have the chance.

Nigeria was made to colonise extreme Minorities and a group of 1000 individuals can not be calling them selves a New different ethnic group. That is crap

As jason rightly said, anything west of baylsea state is either edoid or yorubiod

any thing from abuja upward is to join, hausa or fulani or kanuri or nupe or tiv/idoma that is it

the same should occcur in the east but that is not the case

U would see a group of 10 individuals call themselves a whole ethnic group. Wtf

Relax101:
Pls dont judge the Ijaw people because of that idddiiiott called killayut.
There are Ijaw and other groups and people in ND who needs your support.
Ceasefire people.

It seems like you and bliss4lyf are deluded. really!!!

1. Niger-delta does not need any ones support

2. Igbos ethnic group is Not there "elder brother" LOL i mean why do you people pride urselves as such

3. Igbos have this conception that the people that hate them the most are hausa and yorubas but we know the truth. it is none of them.

I really hope people like you and bliss4lfy can see this

jamace:
Who own papa's (JOS) land?

Anaraguta/Afizere/Berom own papa's land. No other tribes/ethnic nationality does. Q.E.D

so long as it is recognised as jos is just a city and not a the whole plateau I do not see why hausa people are fight over a city

harakiri:
The bespectacled dunce called Gani Adams should be talking to the CIA who are responsible for setting up and funding militant rebels in countries of interest round the world. They are the ones behind Al Qaeda and Boko Haram amongst others. The imperialists regret granting Nigeria indepedence and they want their control back (after all useless Nigerians are interested in is looting the treasury). 50yrs after independence and we still don't know where we are going. We scream "proudly Naija" and I wonder what is there to be proud about. It's only a matter of time before other regions of Nigeria are attacked with bombs. As useless as Nigerians are, they will start killing themselves based on tribal differences and the UN/NATO will swoop in to "secure" the resources. Why are black Africans so dumb? Just read a few threads in the tribal section and you'll catch a glimpse of how we hate each other. Nigeria is a well oil bit$h that is begging to be phucked in the ar$e by NATO! Anyone who thinks things will be better if Nigeria disintegrates is a reetard. Look at Libya. The country is now over run by rebels who slay innocents at will. These are the "protesters" the media brainwashed zombies like yourselves with. Is Libya better now? Reetards! This is a country that was debt free for over 40yrs and when some months, they now owe westerm nations hundreds of millions in dollars. If Nigeria breaks up, we will be worse than Rwanda and Somalia. Keep attacking yourselves with tribal sentiments. That is what the UN wants. Fools! ! ! Have you ever wondered why the government officials send their stolen loot and family abroad? It's because they know this country is a time bomb waiting to explode. Fools! Keep hating yourselves you hear. Let Hausa keep hating Ibo and let Ibo hate yoruba. At this rate, it won't be long before you start feeding on grass and drinking polluted water from mud puddles. Fools! Keep up the tribal warfare. You'll soon become refugees in togo,ghana,cameroon,chad and niger republic. Fools! It's only a matter of time at the rate things are going. It's not too late to correct things though but my fellow Nigerians prefer to pray harder and harder like demented forsaken souls instead of taking affirmative action. Una go soon hia am.

resounding truth. This is what I, ndu-chuks, lagcity etc are seeing

hope others can learn from this post

aletheia:
@alj_harem:

Please refer to my earlier post. I edited it to add quotes from Justice Niki Tobi on the status of Hausa-Fulani in Jos.

thanks jut saw it

to be honest, Jos is just a city in Plateau state so i don't see why all the fight is all about.

if the beroms what jos so bad, then they can have it. No problem

so long as they do not claim ownership to the whole Plateau state, then it is all right

Relax101:
You mean Babangida moved Yoruba people to Kogi. Chei nothing wey we no go here for NL.

You are an Inbred liar. Your lie dey resemble truth for people wey no know you well.

can u please shut up. Haba. Am i talking to ideeiots on nairaland or what

there was nothing like kogi before and okun people were part of kwara until babangida cut old kwara and form a new geographical space called kogi by also adding okun geographical space from kwara to the new form kogi.

GoooHHHsssss!!!!! why are u so stu.pid SMH

Rgp92:
Alj haram leave me alone. Im a proud yoruba, but im not blind like most of you

i am a proud Nigerian and i am not as blind as u calling urself yoruba instead of Nigerian

also i am not as stu.pid as aloy-emeka/south-east