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I mean this killayut was talking of paying people to kill Igbo people How sadistic is that That was one of things that pissed me off about him ![]() |
[quote author=tpia@ link=topic=760170.msg9233021#msg9233021 date=1317159764]but we all know kanuris are from sudan and yemen. i havent read about this ijaw/lagos/tom briggs issue yet [dont know who he is], but isnt every tribe trying to claim lagos anyway.[/quote]True. Then if so, other tribes can claim port harcourt, and other ijaws settlements as well since we all are mixing. You can not in one hand claiming unity and people give you land and the other hand fighting against those that are living in your own lands. Life does not work like that. Do you know how many itsekiris and urhobos this people have killed all in the name of land and "conquered territories" It is not meant to be so. There are hausas in Yobe state, this is normally Kanuri land but hausas have not been killed there all in the name of kanuri land. so why are Ijaws doing so to others. That is wrong and I just wanted this Tom briggs to get off the high horse and see sense in Unity instead of war and Egbesu spirit. |
[quote author=tpia@ link=topic=760170.msg9232959#msg9232959 date=1317159109]that's rather far fetched. i have my reasons for asking the question.[/quote]Not really, if Awori means Awomiri in ijaw (water loving people) and Ijaws have kanuru which mean hot drink then they can argue that Kanuri is a corrupt form of kanuru but just adding A and U it become Akanuru ( hot water/drink people) it is very easy to claim and lie about history. just find words that suit your agenda and force it down on people but using propangada Edo call lagos Eko Yoruba call it Oko/eko Ijaws call it Ukomure or so as u can see, the ijaws are trying to lie about their own version of lagos. What the hell is Ukomure Just say they can call it a corrupt version as well. |
Enjoying the discussion [quote author=tpia@ link=topic=760170.msg9232924#msg9232924 date=1317158546]al harem you said you're kanuri. are there kanuris of ijaw origin- just curious.[/quote]Yes. we are lake like people just like the Ijaws. We live near water body ie lake Chad thus it is likely that we are linked with the Ijaws one way or the other .kan -nuru meaning Hot drink in ijaw or sometimes spelt as kanuru which also means Hot drink in kalabari so given that lake chad is hot and in the north + the water area likely kanuris originated from ijaws which were called kanuru a corrupt form of kanuri (Hot drink) |
[quote author=tpia@ link=topic=760170.msg9232506#msg9232506 date=1317153889]al harem the clothing you referred to on this thread, is traditional yoruba attire in addition to the agbada one. i just checked a 19th century drawing showing yorubas dressed like that. ona kan o woja.[/quote]I am sorry my sister ![]() Was just trying to point out to Mr Tom that not all coastal groups are or were Ijaws. |
killayut:Oya killayut confession time I am not awori , i am not yoruba. I am not even from the south I just enjoy discussing No vex my Kalabari brother, Awori and ijaw etc we are all One Nigeria ahhhh izon ongo seri ![]() |
ak47mann:Very true |
Bliss4Lyfe:Ijaws big sister. I guess you are my big sister now ![]() |
killayut:Hmmm words, you are right. I am not chest beating. All i am saying is that we all should live in peace and there is no point for all this land grabing. All this "this is ijaw land" that is Ijaw land etc does not make sense. Now even Aworis don't really have say in Lagos and you do not see Aworis go out to the street and kill people all because of land. If we have ijaw blood in us, then good. I bet we and other Ijaws can live in peace side by side |
aribisala0:I think u need to read this because u are confused and i really do not want to start explaining myself again http://books.google.com/books?id=A_IsNliDF6kC&pg=PA114&dq=awori+settlements&hl=en&ei=F-iBTtawKsPIswbGvon3DQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CC8Q6AEwATgK#v=onepage&q=awori%20settlements&f=false the link tells u of just 4 groups in lagos which are the egun, awori, ijebu, egba then later in the 15th century the Ajah, Hausa, Nupe all migrated and came to lagos for which they were married to Awori people and are now incoprated into the Awori ethnic group. As i said early, Aworis are the most mixed people in Nigeria, from hausa, to brazil to nupe etc Please get ur facts right |
aribisala0:That sums it up, it just shows u are really ignorant of lagos how can one say Kosoko is not an Awori name How can one say Victoria Island/Iru ibeju lekki etc is not an Awori settle me I hope you are not saying all yorubas came from Oyo empire because Not all did ! just so that u are not confused about Awori settlements http://books.google.com/books?id=A_IsNliDF6kC&pg=PA114&dq=awori+settlements&hl=en&ei=F-iBTtawKsPIswbGvon3DQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CC8Q6AEwATgK#v=onepage&q=awori%20settlements&f=false @Killayut Nice discussing with you. Thanks |
BetaThings:Ok i understand. You made a lot of sense Thanks |
PointB:Ridiculous statement my brother. A terrorist group is a terrorist group. what of the kidnapped Nigerians caught by mend, where they not killed just because Mend does not come out to bomb populated areas like BH does , does not mean they have not killed Hundreds of Nigerians |
[quote author=A-HA link=topic=769246.msg9227967#msg9227967 date=1317112008]@ ALH HAREM, Boy , you have to be very careful, the way you handle this matter of Boko Haram. This is a terrorist group that is bringing shame to Nigeria. Can Boko Haram just tell me one genuine reason, why the are bombing and killing innocent Nigerians in the name of a foreign Religion imported by the Arabs to Africans, just to cause division. [/quote]I am not defending Boko haram or any terrorist group . I am sure that even OBJ and Jonathan know this people (boko haram)Boko haram is a disgrace to Muslims worldwide as Islam is a religion of peace but them (boko haram) are fighting for their own course and not ours. Boko haram is not a religious group but a political group just like Mend is not secessionist group or protest group but a political group. |
Killayut The arogbo ijaw knew they were ijaw because they worship Egbesu The apoi Ijaw were lied to by some misinfomed Ijaws that they were ijaws because ijaws claim that they originated from that land. thus apoi ijaw(birth place of the ijaws). Awori festival is Eyo which is an Awori dialect but Other yorubas call it Ayo (Joy) which is was mixed with the brazilian yoruba festival as well Eyo also refers to the masquerades that come out during the festival. It is widely believed that Eyo is the forerunner of the modern day carnival in Brazil Thus if Aworis are ijaws, then yoruba brazilian were also Ijaws Prince Ajose is from Igaa Suenu, to which the ancestral home of the current Lagos State governor, Raji Fashola could be traced. Eyo Festival is unique to Lagos area, and it is widely believed that Eyo is the forerunner of the modern day carnival in Brazil. On Eyo Day, the main highway in the heart of the city (from the end of Carter Bridge to Tinubu Square) is closed to traffic, allowing for procession from Idumota to Iga Idunganran. Eyo festival could be traced to brazil |
killayut:My friend I know my history well and I do know what I am talking about. Not all yoruba groups came from the Oyo empire. this was the last Oyo empire map [img]http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR8NAPDH2KXcaqIbuUJSlKrqHuTnrkYXnAQzPjazsGtMcO9r_YQ[/img] Egun people were part of it to dahomey but not Awori, ilaje, Ondo, Kogi, Ikale, Mahin, Akoko etc where not part of it but today are yorubas Yorubaland is not = Oyo empire Yorubaland spreads to delta west which covers ilaje, itsekiri land and Edo state even to Kogi west and south of Niger state. I know my history very well and that is why I came here to remove the misconception some Ijaw people have of Awori people. If we knew we were Ijaws, we would not fight against Ijaws at Ajegunle . It is easy for anyone to wake up and say they are one group but History and current day evidence would shows the truth. I hope you understand brother. |
killayut:Were u not the same person talk about how not advance benin empire was ? killayut:Dude, I have told you that ijaws are not the only group that used canoes or are riverine or coastal. Bini people had an advance empire then and traded with the Aworis, ilaje, ijaws, ijebu and the whites. They were also advance to have built the canoe then because of the crossing to asaba and establishing onitsha which was derived from the word orisha in yoruba. How did Aworis cross to the 3 islands that make up lagos ? you tell me. Aworis built canoes, fished, and traded with the whites. It was not the ijaws that invaded Awori people because 1. there are no Ijaw words in Awori dialect 2. Awori names are not pro-ijaw but pro yoruba or pro bini even way back then before the invasion 3. Aworis mixed with the Egun people who also built canoes etc and also are from the dahomey Kingdom that was conquered by the Egbas in the Old Oyo empire. 4. Egun words too are often mixed with Awori words but why is Egun not ijaw but Awori is. Was it only Aworis Ijaws met in lagos ? killayut:I did not say Edos but the Bini people specifically. And it was not under Ijaw army but it was the bini people that came themselves to establish a war camp in lagos. Bini people were the ruling class in the Bini empire and as such got the Oba of Eko ie Oba of lagos. Why is don't we use AMANANAOWEI or PERE to name our king ? why do we use Oba. ( only lagos was the first city after the bini to use the word oba to refer to a king) other yoruba city were Oni etc Ijaws Never traveled with the binis if not the cutlure would have been mixed or maybe there were ijaws in the amry but spoke the Bini langaugue/yoruba killayut:Ijaws never had the capacity to hold Aworis down. Not even the advance Ijebu people not to even talk of ijaws. The bini amry could have even collaborated with the Ijebus and since the Aworis were never warlike, they agreed. Names like Ose , Oladeji, Ajao, Ojo are not ijaw names or even apoi or argbo ijaws names but are stickly yoruba, edo, igala, ebari, nupe names Also Aworis were fisher men and farmers of pepper etc. Ondo was never an ijaw land but ilaje land which were not part of the oyo empire. Ondo people migrated from ile ife , akoko people are a mixture of bini and yoruba, ikale people are also a yoruba people and the coastal group of Ondo state are the ilaje who some times dress like the Awori people. Ilaje is made up of several kingdom which include the Mahin, ilaje people. This kingdoms came together to be called Ilaje and are coastal people as well. Maybe they interacted with Ijaw people but so did the itsekiri, urhobo and igbos today. I have to admit that there are some ilaje people in lagos but again Awori people are the most mixed blooded yorubas. There is Yewa-Awori, Brazilain -awori, ilaje-Awori, Egba- Awori , Egun -Awori etc So this groups came together to be called Egun-Awori. There in the Obas palace there was nothing like Ijaw. The really lagosian know themselves. killayut:Very wrong, Itsekiri and Ilajes NEVER MIGRATED TO THE PRESENT DAY LAND THEY OCCUPY again not all coastal groups are or were Ijaws. Itsekiris have been trading with the portugese since the 1400's so when did itsekiri migrate to "Ijaw land" Ilajes were a group just like the Aworis were never part of the OYO empire but today are yoruba. Again it is affiliation. If a group of people speak my language, know my culture and love my people they way they are, then I am with that culture. That is what the Yorubas did for mahin, awori and itsekiri people. It is not all about land and invading people's land like the ijaws are doing now. It would NEVER WORK. You need to be nice to people and accept them for who they are whether itsekiri, ibibio etc In 1940's or so, We Aworis use to think we were not Yorubas, but now we know better. Just because we were not part of an Empire does not mean you are not part of the group. Take a look at Ikwerre people of rivers state today. This people have strong identity crisis and would rather be a minority than join a larger group. VERY SAD Ijaws today are loved by Nigerians but ijaws are fighting with every group to claim land. This is very wrong. If you want to claim land, you do not fight with the indigenes on there land but there are various none violent way of doing it which the Hausa , yorubas and Fulani have mastered 1. You migrate in large numbers to the area 2. You speak their language which fulanis are good at. 3. Your group is very friendly to the indigenes of the area until you have a large number to absorb the group Very slowly Violence is never the answer. killayut:I am using my head my brother. Ijaws were not the only coastal group, nor ijaws were the only group that dressed that way Itsekiris too wear cloths like that but are not ijaws. To conclude I strong suspect that Ijaws came from Yorubas and not the other way around. From my reseach on Ijaw land, awori, and yoruba igbo. Ijaws came from yorubas |
Tosinville:tosin that is ignorant for u to say it did not start from boko haram but from MEND and who is destroying GEJ regime I think GEJ know the people behind this but is to scared to expose them |
Beaf:You know what they are calling for is impossible and not constitutionally right |
SEFAGO: so did the report put odua or Nigerian who is odua |
Oh pleeassee shut the F up ijaw militant or what ever 1. The bombing started with Mend the ijaw fraction that killed Christians and Muslims both in abuja and lagos 2. Who told them that Muslims have not condemned Boko haram 3. What do ijaws mean by " our land the Niger delta" are this people drunk do they know that Niger-delta is not their land4. They want to deport muslims a funny statement. so edo, ilaje, yoruba, tiv, etc muslims are going to be deported from there land delta state which is one of the Niger delta. 5. Did they not do Mend to discredit OBJ and Yaradua ? who started bombing in Nigeria that kills tens of innocent people. Was it not the same Mend |
lagcity:Yes o we all knew that. Haters can go hug transformer @Topic what is aliyu doing about Niger state. Talk is cheap u know |
[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=768330.msg9226612#msg9226612 date=1317086061]^-- pop of US is ~300 million. And it is one of the largest countries on earth. So pop/area is very low. Pop of all of North America is about ~530 million, according to wiki.[/quote]thanks looking at population density or population size. 2 different concept |
Uche2005:Not strictly true, yes there is poverty in USA but not that much and negligible when compared to other countires. USA has a population of about 500 million people. Part of Nigeria problem is the heterogeneous mixture of 250 ethnic groups, each group tries to out shine the other |
stillwater:LOL not to be evil but what if i pay a loveopeddler and she refuses to give me the service i paid her for and yet refuse to give me back my money, what do i do.Call the police ? surely you can help yourself. If you a woman can not help urself, how do u expect a rapist to help himself from a beautiful seductress ![]() you have to be open minded here my sister |
[quote author=Sisi_Kill link=topic=768717.msg9226552#msg9226552 date=1317084646]Dude I like you. . .that's why I'm just gonna beg to please stop. The more you write, the more I cringe in embarrassment for you. Now is not the time to do one of your straddling the fence moves. . .what is bad is bad, there are no grey areas.[/quote]OK surely there are no grey areas |
I wouldn't say so the peeled bean still has a lot of protein and I would guess they have the same amount of protein both the peeled and unpeeled . although the unpeeled would have more calories than the peeled. I would also suspect that the outer skin of the bean is not made of protein but cellulose which is a form of carbohydrate but not digested by humans. Both peeled and unpeeled beans have the same amount of protein. |
Beaf:See his head ![]() Yes Gej is doing well in this sector, Hope he improves more on it. |
kabukabu50:LOOl kabukabu Surely it would be considered as rape now given the fact that most women are protesting ![]() We should ask ourselves why she did not scream in the video ? well rape is rape sha. and it is a crime |
stillwater:Ignorance ? !!! I am sure you schooled in a Nigerian University and surely you know of some of this things |
Good one Nnaji hopefully, it can be constant |
[quote author=tpia@ link=topic=760170.msg9225264#msg9225264 date=1317066335]al harem to tell the truth, you have me totally stumped with most of your posts on this thread. i trust all is well with you?[/quote]Lol all is well my sister that killayut aka tom briggs has been annoying me for some time now Just have to take down his useless ego with all this ijaw madness he is shouting about from facebook, to you tube and now nairaland of course there are a people called the ijaws but also i just wanted to extent that rubbish of ijaw reaching lagos There is nothing like ijaw in lagos, confirm ![]() |
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That was one of things that pissed me off about him 
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