₦airaland Forum

all4naija:
That is one of the most questionable observations I have ever come across. I think the reason why English is better is the versatility, most especially, in sciences. I don't think a person educated in Arabic is well qualified in advance sciences only on peripherals. And, that is one of the basic reasons there are no good scientists from Arabic educated society. Just check it up! I would advise every intending Nigerian to do away with being educated in Arabic when the nation has the opportunity of English educational system.

Arabic education is different from Islamic education.

Arabic education is the same as someone studying English language or Latin. It has nothing to do with Islamic education.

Islamic education on the other hand is taught with different disciples.

Islamic finance

Islamic banking and investment

and other form of maths and science can be taught using the Arabic language. Just like someone in France being taught Business studies in french.

It does not necessarily mean that person is an illiterate

Gerrard59:
Then how come sokoto had the lowest number of pple writing jamb and imo had the highest. When you mean north-dont include the middle belt oh. The north west and east  have the highest iiliteracy rate in the con3. Borno has the worst educational system in nigeria[UBE]. When we mean education-ISLAMIC EDUCATION IS NOT EDUCATION. How come aganga worked in GOLDMAN SACHS with a degree in theology and the fanatical sanusi couldnt evn school outside talk less of working. How come southerners work in banks in the north and not also vice versa? PPLE IN SAUDI CANT WORK IN THE U.S,U.K,CHINA,GERMANY WITH A DEGREE IN ARABIC EDUCATION. EVEN LIBYANS WHO WENT TO FRANCE COULDNT WORK. WHY? THEIR CERTIFACTE WAS AND IS NOT RECOGNISABLE IN FRANCE. SO ALMARJIRIS SHOULD LEARN AND STUDY WESTERN EDUCATION.
 FORGOT BOKO HARAM>>>>>>WESTERN EDUCATION IS SIN.

who told u that boko haram exist?

who told u that western education is sin ? are they not using e-mail, guns etc

who are you to say Islamic[b] education[/b] is not an educational disciple

walihi i no even get u time u bigot

kabukabu:
hold up, do they take JAMB in Hausa?

or fulani??

We are talking about education here not Q'uranic schools.Sir.

The less educated the populace are anywhere the more likey they resort to blind acts of violence.

guy i can see you being mischievous here

it is taken in English or Arabic. and moreover as i said earlier. knowing pigin English does not qualify you as an educated person.

If I study or read in Arabic or French but still do the same disciples university undergraduates do, then I can still be qualified as educated.

I hope you understand.

People have Ph.D in studying French, Arabic,Greek,Hausa and yoruba but don't know English and still qualified as educated.

so all this "not knowing english= uneducated" is crap

Sun of god:
How much lower can we possibly sink?

What's become of us?

that is Nigeria for you. No one respects God's house again

anyone just does what they like. sad but true

the security of Nigeria is at his worst state Now

Onlytruth:
Posted by: alj_harem
hehe! So we are down to "you have to squeeze the other guy before the other guys squeezes you".
Classic.
May be best squeezer win. 

very correct

A homogeneous society has a high probability to be a peaceful Nation

Even if Igbos colonise Nigeria, then so be it. But i doubt that

I see the official Nigeria language to be Hausa and official Nigeria dressing , food and way of life to be yoruba. Also see all Nigerians to have igbo ancestry one way or the other like me

kabukabu:
another problem is social barricades to education, how come illiteracy is still so high in the North vs the South.
Address that, how can you get youths up there educated so they don't have to rely on terror groups and bombings to vent their frustrations on innocent citizens who are just trying to make a living in their soceities

My brother, illiteracy is high even in the south

Just because southerners can speak broken english does not make them educated

education is not about english.

Infact the North is one of the most educated region in West africa. Saudi arabia don't understand english but are very educated.

Illiteracy is everywhere in Nigeria.

Bombing is was even started by southerners not northerners. It is a terrible thing

we need to hold hands and unite to fight all this Boko haram and Mend

we are one Nation and should act as such

^^^ who is he

[flash=400,400]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVuEsBuiuqA&feature=related[/flash]

while some are trying to form an homogeneous united Nigeria

some ideeiot are still trying to divide it and causing trouble

I have come to the conclusion that the most peace loving people in Nigeria are the hausa, yoruba, igbo, kanuri and the bini people.

Nigeria was created for Minorities to be absorbed and colonised and not the other way around.

Insha Allah, by the time we Nigerians reach 2100 there will only be 3-5 cultures left in Nigeria

not 250 ethnic groups. The more Homogeneous Nigeria is the faster we can move forward.

igbo2011:
We are very proud people, many people call us cocky or arrogant.  Potential to be a force to be reckoned with.  We need to EDUCATE EVERYONE for free. Free from age 5 to 18.  For people who want to be a doctor,nurse, healthcare business, or  engineer they get free university because we need more of those.  Where we have a lack of supply those people can go for free.

The government needs to support everyone so the people are able to do it.  Infrastructure (roads, power, IT), education, health care, social programs and that is it.  Nigerians are smart enough to do the rest.  Once they stop stealing in almost every aspect of society, then we will be a top economy.

Government should invest in people and people invest in the economy.

you have said it all

Nigeria has it is has everything to be made a world power. The problem is the leaders that is all.

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MY awori people say

Kiti gbe o
Omo yoruba is everyone

ede ko na la jo so

(we speak the same language and that is what matters)

egun eyo festival

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[size=13pt]Lagos and in ownership by the Portuguese in 1800's  [/size]

The original Lagosians belonged to the Aworis who, with the Ijebu, are the most southerly of the yoruba-speaking people, occuping an area west and east of lagos extending about 40 miles inland. Their town and islands are known to them as EKO though the name is lagos which is lagoon in Portuguese. It was the least important yoruba state. and not part of the Oyo empire [size=4pt](my words)[/size]

The traditions of the early lagos tell plausibly enought of the movement of a small group of awori from the village of Isheri


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the writer in the 1800's did not mention apoi argbo etc ijaw or what so ever in lagos thus u can not claim massive absorption by the yorubas.

this is to tell u that Oyo empire did not extent to lagos and Aworis were not apart of the empire but we consider ourselves today as yorubas not because of the massive language similarity but the importance Lagos is to other yorubas and how they have put it in the capable hands of God using the Awori people.

Other yorubas gave us a sense of unity and love. So do not think after 211 years later , One kalabari man would not wake up to say we aworis are not yorubas but ijaws and u think we would accept. By the way I do not have a typical yoruba surname and part of the royal family of the Oba of lagos back in the late 1800's which my great grand father was the Oba.

Where were the ijaws when other yorubas were funding lagos ?

Where were the ijaws when Ekiti people and the benin-itskiris were giving us farm food, rubber and cocoa

Where were the ijaws when the benin invaded lagos ?

I think u all should forget lagos, It is a lost dream and as u can see now. We Aworis would rather have a yoruba man from Ogun or ekiti or even Osun to rule us than a kalabari man that does not even understand me language or way of life. It is nothing personal

You had your oppotunity 300 years ago but blew it big time. May be if 50% of the oil revenue is given to Awori people, then we might consider but of course u know how the west operate. Once u say only Awori people, then every single yoruba even to togo would becomes an Awori man

Look at the image below

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U see the [b]hat and the dressing is not a typical yoruba ma[/b]n dressing but an Awori's man dressing

certain not typical yoruba

[img]http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQCqrlohUrALnFYtNOVSiPzCPbAhL5a9J8sWmDYqB_D6SEWvRo1[/img]

also look at the hat carefully. Yorubas don't wear cowboy hat

it is Niger-delta thing but heck we are yoruba now , so go hug transformer

Fashola ana Awori man

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typical awori men dressing

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Some Urhobo groups (i.e. mixed Edo, Ibo and Ijo) and the Ojos in the Badagiri creek region of Lagos (i.e. Ijo who have adopted Yoruba language fairly recently around the early 20th century. In the Awori-Lagos traditions, the original Proto-Ijo founders of settlements in Lagos are referred to as the “AROMIRE’S” i.e. “LOVERS OF WATER”). Opobo was founded by Jaja who was of the house of Opubo (Opubo Wari) at Bonny (Ibani). Oruma's other name was Tugbene, the ancestor Tu hailing from Oboloma. The Epie-Attisa resulted from migrants from both Izon and Edo speaking people. The Ijo element coming from Ekpetiama or Seimbiri mother settlements.

http://www.ijawland.com/history-and-culture/166-others-ijos-zarama-epie-atissa-engenni-saka-abua.html


and i am telling you we are not ijaws and yet u are saying we are a minority in lagos

killayut according to ijawland, they did not say we are a minority. so where are u getting ur information from ?

i am starting to think u are drunk

if u think the ijaws are the only coastal people in Nigeria, then u need to check ur head and ask ur leaders ur history well

[quote author=Chyz* link=topic=760170.msg9223850#msg9223850 date=1317053359]Which parts of Imo and Abia states are Ijaw land, Tom? I'm sure there are some.

Where does Ijaw land begin and end? Lets not go by LGA because LGA doesnt translate to "complete tribal land".

Igbos fill Ajengule more than Ijaw but Ajengule is Yoruba land, there is no single doubt about that. So out of the consideration of the both, how the heck is it Ijaw land.

When have the Igbo ever lame the kalabari to be Igbo?

Why is tori-ebe state including urhoboland, all of itsekiri land, and PH(Ikwerre-igboland)?


Since when did the ijaw get land in akwa-ibom? How did they skip over ogoni and Ibibio?[/quote]ask am o

i really want to know because i am very confused

they claim aworis are ijaws, yet i disclaim that and now aworis suddenly became minorities

i really want to know ijaw land and why they stopped in lagos and not continue to cotonuo

killayut:
If Owerri belongs to the Igbo natives in Owerri and ABA belongs to the ABA natives of Aba, GELEGELE belongs to the Ijaw natives of GELEGELE, And just as the Minority AWORIS in Lagos always try to make Lagos an AWORI affair ,Gele Gele must also remain an Ijaw affair until Nigerians learn to live by the constitution.

to be honest . i thought u people said aworis are ijaws

killayut i don't understand u o

[quote author=Sisi_Kill link=topic=768717.msg9223538#msg9223538 date=1317050892]Are you fccking kidding me with this crap??!!!

You know what, I take that back. . .having read the rest of your post, I understand your frame of mind. Seeing as we don't want a repeat of this, let me clear something up for you. . . a woman pushing you away several times before sexxx is NOT normal. [b]GET IT? IT IS NOT NORMAL!!!! [/b]So if you've ever gone ahead with the deed despite the pushing away, consider yourself a R A P I S T with a capital R!!!

The same wannabe despoiler who are saying the girl didn't struggle enough with five guys are the same guys who will cower in fear when confronted by men their size.

Long Hissssssssssssssss!! [/quote]Sisi mi no vex for me na. I am not part of the rapist o

On a serious note, different women with different why of getting sexual desire. Some like the pushing a bit so they would look special in the eyes of the man while others like you might be indifferent.

Women say rubbish on the bed when they meant the right man doing them right . Some say[i] Harem leave me alone it is ok, i do not want[/i] Only to be pulling you closer there body.

So sisi mi, Although I agree with you that it should not repeat itself again given that it is considered as rape and it is women's right thing.

MrPrsdent:
@alj_harem

You amaze me.That girl had bruises on her body which clearly showed she tried fighting them off.And how do you expect a girl to beat off 5 evil young men anyway?

In my view,she was a smart girl to calm down a bit otherwise they would have killed her and tossed her body in some bush

I really doubt that but it is good she did the right thing so we do not tempt the devil.

killayut:
Bottom ignorant I beg carry your AWORI comot .Now I know you do not even have a clue of who Ijaws are, Itshekiris and Ijaws dress alike , It was a waste of time and energy having this discussion with you. I am sure you are a teen ager that lack proper knowledge.

LOL and yet ijaws were killing them right

How was ur day brother tom

can u please tell us where ijaw land starts and end

thanks

Even awori type of dressing is similar to isheri (itsekiri) and has nothing to do with ijaw or whatever

http://books.google.com/books?id=VuZwqbFl5lsC&pg=PA2&dq=awori+lagos+local+governments&hl=en&ei=BYaATpekL4TG8QP5q6niCQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CDQQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q&f=false

Killayut

just to show you ijora, ojota, apapa and all other settlement u think is ijo etc were all awori settlement

this is a white man Portuguese documentary of Lagos in 1800's and awori settlement

he mentioned ijebu and egba and that is alll

No point was apoi whatever mentioned

http://books.google.com/books?id=VuZwqbFl5lsC&pg=PA2&dq=awori+lagos+local+governments&hl=en&ei=BYaATpekL4TG8QP5q6niCQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CDQQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q&f=false

To me, I don't think it was a case of violation. This is a university we are talking about, people do wild things which includes intimacy. Yes it was a case of 5 men and a girl but according to the report gotten from the video, she did not struggle but only tried to push one of the guys a couple of times which we know women do even with their lover. Perfectly normal.

Although there was also a point she said so reluctantly "kill me" there was not scream or what ever and she said just once within the space of 3 seconds and did not repeat it again. Which rape victim does that ?

Maybe it can be called sexual harassment because it was recorded and according to our moral standard of Nigeria, that was bad but I am not sure if it could be classified as rape.

killayut:
I swear  this ALJ HAREM is  dumb, bro   From your posting previously, that Sowore  guy claimed his village is in the niger delta  of  ONDO state. and I said  So now  every coastal  land of Nigeria  is NIGER DELTA  perhaps including bar beach, BRO  YOU ARE A SLOW   MAN.

so kalabari man, pls explain to us because we are all confused

where does ijaw land starts and where does it end ?

killayut:
I swear  this ALJ HAREM is  dumb, bro   From your posting previously, that Sowore  guy claimed his village is in the niger delta  of  ONDO state. and I said  So now  every coastal  land of Nigeria  is NIGER DELTA  perhaps including bar beach, BRO  YOU ARE A SLOW   MAN.

can please shut it if u are not willing to learn from ur mistakes

Niger-delta includes Ondo state just stop embarrassing urself

[quote author=tpia@ link=topic=760170.msg9219920#msg9219920 date=1317016092]omoyole said he comes from a yoruba speaking village, not a yoruba village.


however, we dont know if his mum is yoruba.



all this niger delta stuff used to be strictly for the extreme south south- i think it's only recently that the term was extended to cover all the oil producing areas.

including yorubas in niger delta seems counter productive and misleading, imo.[/quote]IN fact i just found out that there are ilaje indigenes in delts state that contribute 10% of the oil in the state

killayut:
ALL THE COASTAL LAND OF NIGERIA is now NIGER DELTA, I am sure Lagos bar beach is also Niger delta.

Lagos Niger-delta

na wa ooo tom

killayut:
This guy is senseless,  he posted a site that clearly state Ijaws in ondo state  which answered  his  own question when he asked me to tell him of the Ijaws of ondo,  But now  he is saying SOME APOIS  claim they are not Ijaws,  does that make any sense,  ?Does  every person in Ilorin claim to be Yoruba of  Afonja ? ofcourse  some Illorin natives  claim to be Fulanis and not Yorubas but the whole world knows Illorin is a yoruba town and land,  Some  residents of APOI land who speak Yoruba claim they aint Ijaws and were pushed by their Yoruba kins to claim the Ijaw land of APOI taking advantage of the fact that the Ijaws of APOI now speak Yoruba. This is exactly the same claim the Igbos  make on the Rivers  Ijaws,  Because the KALABARIS / Okrikas and Bonny  Ijaws  adopted a lot of Igbos and made them citizens The Igbos of Igbo land now claims  KALABARI / OKRIKA and Bonny Land belong to the IGBOS,    There is no dispute  that some APOI say they are not Ijaws  . Ofcourse those APOIS  are not Ijaws  but Yorubas settled  in the Ijaw land ,  The APOIS who claim to be Ijaws  are in charge and their land belong to them.  So  ALJ HAREM,  fine  some APOIS SAY THEY ARE NOT IJAWS    BUT YOU HAVE NOW KNOWN THAT THE APOIS   or atleast some APOIS  SAY THEY ARE IJAWS  and they must be protected and given good every right to exist .

Now you are making ur point, no point for insults

so there are ijaws in ondo state right?

apoi and arogbo ijaw, that is it right ?

then good but don't bring ur ijaw expansionism to lagos  Ok !!!

i heard u call lagos Ukorume or something like that.LOL

just stop that rubbish in ondo state and explain to ur superiors that tori-ebe state is something that would be very hard to get.

thanks for ur time

[quote author=tpia@ link=topic=760170.msg9219900#msg9219900 date=1317015650]^^i wasnt sure if i was reading you right.

why do you feel there are no ijaws in ondo state?

ijaw arogbo are the unmixed ones ie pure ijaw.

ijaw apoi are the yoruba speaking.

they're divided into the two groups above.[/quote]yes i know that

[quote author=tpia@ link=topic=760170.msg9219859#msg9219859 date=1317015112]

where did you get this from?

western ijaws are native to ondo state.[/quote]Tpai, u mean the confused bunch. that is the way they almost did to aworis. I tell you

but you are right . i mean it is a free world.

in a country where we are trying to unite, some are trying to divide it

killuyut

[i]Ethnic Composition, Languages, Culture and the ArtsThe people of the state are Yoruba (except for the Ijaw or Ijo settlement in the littoral part of the state), although other Nigerians and foreign nationals co-exist peacefully in the state. The most known ethnic sub-groups are the Akure, the Akoko, the Ondo,[size=13pt] the Ijo (made up of a part of Apoi [note that some Apoi claim Yoruba ancestry] and Arogbo)[/size], the Ikale, the Ilaje and the Owo. Generally, the people have similar customs, traditions and language although there are some variations, most observable with the Ijo. In the field of arts and culture, Ondo State is among the richest in the federation in the variety and quality of its traditional sculpture. The people are lovers of arts, music (e.g. Obitun dancers), with sayings and poetry. The ivory carvings, bronze works and wood carvings from Owo are basically Yoruba sculptures; excavated at Egberen Street in the town in 1971, they showed the naturalist out of the classical Ife (Ministry of Information & Culture, 1976).

http://ondostatelocalgovornment.com/ondowest.html

Oyomele sowore

Q. Tell us a little about yourself

A. I was born in the Niger Delta area of Nigeria in a small village called “Kiribo” in Ese-Odo local government area of Ondo State. I come from a small Yoruba –speaking tribe known as “Ijaw-Apoi” (Ijaw-Apoi- because the Ijaws claim their territory or nation starts from there!). My father was a local teacher and my mum a full-time, never- retiring housewife. I come from a polygamous family, I have lots of brothers and sisters, 16 of us, - don’t ask me if I remember all their names!

Q.What was it like growing up?

A. I grew up in Nigeria, in the village in Kiribo Ondo state. There was no electricity, or running water, no television heroes. No postal office. Just three missionary primary schools and policemen who constantly came to extort women on Market Days-every nine days!

http://www.nigeriansinamerica.com/articles/855/1/I-Have-No-Interest-In-Working-For-Obasanjo--Omoyele-Sowore/Page1.html[/i]

Killayut as you can see, they SOME ONLY claim ijaw because you people gave them a sense of importance like "Ijaw ethnic group origin" WTF

infact up to today, some apoi people are fighting not to be called ijaw

LOL sanusi my man. Kudos to you

You have made Nigeria proud. Haters can go hug transformer

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=767884.msg9219495#msg9219495 date=1317005618]Are you talking to me or Onlytruth? [/quote]you nah

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=767884.msg9219495#msg9219495 date=1317005618]Who said I wasnt here, viewing your tribalistic posts all along? [/quote]My tribalistic post ke !

I am pro Nigeria Na