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Very wrong opinion because it is not the north, SS, east and west we have in the country

when u look at those geopolitical zones u mentioned, not all ethnic groups in those zones are in any militant

in the north

we have the Kanuri, Jukun, Nupe, Gwari, Beroms, Igala etc

In the west, we have Bini, Itsekiri, ishan

in the east, we have Ibibios, Efik etc

in the SS we have Ogonis etc


any of this ethnic groups can produce the president and not necessarily Yoruba, Igbo and Fulanis

oddy4real:
If Akala or another PDP Governor had done this, the whole media most especially THE NATION would have started slating them as wasteful spenders. but since its ACN , nothing spoil

can you imagine, the EX-governor that propably has a lot of wealth hidden with his family and some abroad is the same one Oyo governor is realising 30 million for

Before you know it some would say "ACN govs are not corrupt"

I am sure the 30 million is diverted to aid tinubu

nusdog:
Even in the west, they rarely do own houses. I think it's just their way of life.

I've worked with some of them(in their brother's company in Lagos) and they hardly bring their wives with them to a foreign land.

I think having no family ties doesn't encourage them to build concrete structures where they reside, not forgetting that many of them are very poor.

Very wrong and stop lying

In fact i know houses of more than 20 northerners in Ikoyi/VI alone not to tale of Mainland

Again not all everyone u see in jalamia and hat are all Yoruba muslims. Don't get it wrong

they build houses and Dangote investments alone in Lagos and other SW region is so much His HQs is in Lagos and he has about 10 HQs for different branches of the company

There are hausas in ekiti and OYO state as well in large numbers with huge investments and Houses.

Not all Hausas/fulani/Kanuri goes to the North back each hoilday

King's college Lagos etc schools all have a sizable portion of Hausa/kanuri/fulanis

yet some people will say ACN is better

Beaf:
What a lovely looking lad!
Congrats Enyojo! May your son receive all the best of Gods blessings to overflowing in a long joyful, fulfilled, healthy, wealthy life. May your bundle of joy become a colossus that prints his name on the Earth.

. . .I am also sending him a golden envelope containing a pic of someone to admire and emulate, Dr. Goodluck Ebele Azikiwe Jonathan President of the Federal Republic of Nigeria and Commander in Chief of the Armed forces! Also in that envelope is a golden PDP membership ticket!

you are joking right !! this beaf sef

[quote author=South-East link=topic=770063.msg9238442#msg9238442 date=1317229364]There are 16+ million people in the East (if we consider the fake census data) that can buy from any one or more of Dangote's products, can you hazard a guess as to why Dangote will not see profit in the East? For e.g., will he be paying his Igbo employees more than he pays those in Sokoto, Lagos, etc thereby incurring more expenses? Will Igbo youths burn down his business? Is the power situation in the East any worse than elsewhere, so that he has to use generators more? Do Igbo govts tax investors any more than taxes paid in other places? I need ideas. Thanks.[/quote]Dude you make it as if those that he employs in lagos and sokoto are only yorubas and hausas respectively

That is wrong, infact very wrong . one of the head of the company for distrubution in lagos ikoyi is an Igbo man

it is not necessary he invest in Igboland, so long as he does not discriminate again people of igbo origin, then fine

dangote flour in Imo state

[quote author=South-East link=topic=770063.msg9238230#msg9238230 date=1317226438]Please post  the link (verifiable evidence) for these claims. Thank you[/quote]ANAMBRA AREA SALES
C/o Chief M. O. Mbonu
Shop No F, 22/23,
Bakery Material Market,
Ogidi- Onitsha, Anambra State

http://www.dangote-group.com/ourbrands/flour.aspx

Dangote Group Supports Private Sector Development in enugu

AS Nigeria’s coal city, Enugu opened its trade fair complex to hundreds of participants in the 20th edition of the Enugu International Trade Fair last Friday, Dangote Group, one of the biggest indigenous conglomerates in the manufacturing sector at the Fair is poised to support government in realizing its 20-20-20 Vision.
http://businessworldng.com/web/articles/347/1/Dangote-Group-Supports-Private-Sector-Development/Page1.html

others

http://thenationonlineng.net/web2/articles/40899/1/More-exhibitors-storm-Enugu-International-Trade-Fair/Page1.html

dangote sugar in ebonyi

etc

u can do more research

[quote author=Chyz* link=topic=760170.msg9238163#msg9238163 date=1317225731]You avoided this question:

Also Ogun state is by the coast as well.Why is there no Ijaws there or am I missing something? Ogun state is beside Ondo right before you get to Lagos how the hell did you(Ijaws) manage to skip it? I ask the same question about AKwa Ibom.How did you all skip the Ogonis and Ibibios and end up in Akwa Ibom?


We need to know your answer.[/quote]very good question chyz

the Ogonis fought against the ijaws in river state and in fact they claim not to be Niger-delta people again

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2009/06/ogonis-are-not-niger-deltans-and-we-want-our-own-state-out-of-rivers-state-%E2%80%94-mosop/

what kind of life is that

killayut:
LOL, no THERE MUST BE A BIAFRAN republic . abi them no want am again ? There must also be an ODUA repiblic of course without Illorin BECAUSE the OPC punks can not even cough where AREWA is, And like every one has pointed out, THE IJAWS are very much ready to defend their territory from any land grabber and this is a God given right, These are Nigerian youths exposing their tribalism and hate online, Thank God I am Ijaw.

Need to clear up ur ignorance

1. Illorin is a town in Kwara thus just a few square kilometers which is ok. I mean there have been intermixing with the fulani and yorubas. You do not see them killing and land grabing, do u ?

2. Defend what territory I am very very very confused at this territory thing u are bring up. Do you mean 2 local government in Ondo state of the apoi and arogbo of which so Apoi would kill you if u call them Ijaw

3. No one exposed tribalism and hate here, It was YOU KILLAYUT that is full of hate for other groups. You were talking about igbo and itsekiri slaves. You were talking of selling oil blocks to the north to kill igbo people, You were talking about how tribalistic Igbos and Yorubas were of which YOUR LEADERS confirmed otherwise.

Yet you call yourself a good Christian tom briggs

[quote author=South-East link=topic=770063.msg9237857#msg9237857 date=1317222942]maclatunji

And while providing an example, do well to distinguish between a Dangote-owned investment and an Igbo-owned distributorship for Dangote products. They are different. Does Dangote own any factory, retail outlet, bank or transport company physically present in Igboland?[/quote]I pointed out to u just 1 of some of dangote branches in Igboland yet u dismissed it

also danjuma group has

not to forget others like saraki (fulani) etc

[quote author=ndu_chucks link=topic=760170.msg9237867#msg9237867 date=1317223002]To Keep Nigeria One Is A Task That Must Be Done, so that we no go kill ourselves finish. shikena[/quote]Gbam well supported

killayut:
  [size=8pt][size=8pt][size=8pt][size=8pt][size=8pt][size=8pt][size=8pt]NO   INCH  OF IJAW  LAND WILL BE RELEASED  TO ANY man-lover.    ANY ATTACK ON ANY  IJAW  SETTLEMENT  BY ANY GROUP WOULD BE AVENGED  WITH  FURY ,THE KILLING OF ANY IJAW  ANY WHERE  WOULD BE AVENGED  BY A BOKO HARAM  TYPED  REPRISAL,    IF NO IJAW DOES THAT  KILLAYUT  IS SURE TO DO THAT[/size][/size][/size][/size][/size][/size][/size].

LOL No one is taking Ijaw land but you can not come here and be calling itsekiris and Igbos slaves

They were NEVER SLAVES TO ANYONE

You call itsekiris timber people and slaves but still you claim to have given them land. How is that possible ?

You also said groups that ijaws but they are not!!!! from ilaje to awori, itsekir etc they are not ijaws

you claim igbos were tribalistic but Balysea state, delta state have been running for more than 20 yrs and I can not say they are better off any other state.

You claim that Yorubas were tribalistic but houses the most homogenous state in Nigeria which Delta could have been if not for ijaws fighting itsekiris, ilajes and urhobos

Lastly You said Awolowo was tribalistic against Ijaws in the west but I brought out links that even Ijaws leaders comfirmed that You are a lair .

Get off the high horse and see strength in Unity not by fighting and claiming you gave land to everyone because YOU NEED TO KNOW IJAWS ARE NOT THE ONLY COASTAL PEOPLE IN NIGERIA. We have at least 10 different ethnic groups that have access to the ocean.

1 Ijaws against Ilajes yoruba in Ondo State

2 Ijaws against Binis in Edo State

3 Ijaws against Itsekiris in Delta State

4 Ijaws against Urhobos (Ogbe Ijo, Gbarigolo, Olota, Okweagbe etc.),all in Delta State

5 Ijaws against Ekwerres-igbos in Rivers State

6 Ijaws against Ogonis in Rivers State

7 Ijaws against Ibibios in Akwa Ibom State

8 Ijaws against Yorubas(Aworis) in Ajegunle; Lagos State

all this fight within a space of 4 years. Nah that is wrong and not meant to be so

Ijaws that I know are the most peaceful people and kind group, When they turned to a war-like groups bits me. You need to see sense in Unity .

Lastly STOP CLAMOURING FOR KILLING OF PEOPLE IN OTHER ETHINIC GROUPS JUST BECAUSE YOU DO NOT LIKE THEM. You are not the creator and you did not chose you ethnic group, neither did they chose theirs.

[quote author=Akanbi_edu link=topic=770085.msg9234785#msg9234785 date=1317195205]Seems like some folks expect the West to just keep quiet because a southerner is ruling even when things are not going right. These people should just look back at OBJ days and compare. Even though OBJ is from the west, his critics are mostly from the west.

It is the way we are, we have seen better standard of governance and can not lower it now for primitive reasons. We have no patience with incompetence.

If GEJ could just step up and do his job, the west will sing his praises.[/quote]+1000

Very well said

Objectivity comes first before "parapoism" according to Patrick

[size=13pt]Ijaw Monitoring Congress : We enjoyed free education from Awolowo and the west[/size]

NATIONAL coordinator of the Ijaw Monitoring Congress (INC), Comrade Joseph Evah, yesterday, in Warri, Delta State awarded scholarship to 25 undergraduates of Ijaw ethnic nationalities studying in various universities in the country as well as donated exercise books and writing materials to 20 secondary schools in the Niger-Delta region.

Speaking on the occasion, which saw each of the 25 graduates getting N10, 000 each to support their educational pursuits, Comrade Evah said the gesture was his little contribution as a human rights activist to the educational advancement of the younger generation.

The scholarship under the Tuku Educational Foundation is a yearly event. For this year, the undergraduates got a total of N250, 000 while another N250, 000 was used to purchase the exercise books and writing materials that were distributed to the secondary schools.

Comrade Evah said that this particular scholarship for Ijaw students was different from the one he grants to Niger-Delta students in Lagos, saying that he purchased and provide GCE and JAMB forms free of charge to students of the region resident in Lagos, this year while the cases of those who had problems with payment of their school fees were handled.

He said that one of the accusations against the Niger-Delta people by the Federal Government was that the people were not educated, adding, “even though we know they are lying, some of us have taken it as a challenge to assist our people”.

But he had very harsh words for governors of the South-South region who he accused of not doing enough for their people in the area of education. He was amazed that the governors were not running free education in the six states in spite of the 13 per cent derivation fund they collect monthly.

“Some of the Northern governors are not collecting 13 per cent derivation but they are giving free education to their people. Governor Bola Tinubu is paying school fees for students in Lagos , whether you are from Lagos or not. We enjoyed free education under the government of the late Chief Obafemi Awolowo, why are our children not enjoying it now”, he asked.

The Ijaw leader said it was a shame that South-South governors were not offering free education to the people, arguing that history would not be kind to them except they repent.

http://www.tamansiswa.com/2006/10/20/nigeria-evah-awards-scholarship-to-25-ijaw-undergraduates

killayut:
I am beginning to think many of these  people  are dumb, I SAID  there were  people  living in the settlement knwon as  Seikiri  BEFORE  ginuwa  The Benin prince arrived, He never went to the forest  to settle, he went to the settlement already  existing and inhabitted  by the Seikiri  Ijaws. It is well written in Itshekiri  history  that he went to the place . He never founded  the town ,  HE WAS A BENIN MAN and  he could have used a BENIN name to call his  founded   town if he did  Found it, in that same settlement  the Igbiras n Ilajes  arrived,  Ijaws  have never been slaves to no one, THIS ACT OF  CALLING IJAWS slaves is the most childish statements  yall make, IJAWS  have been slaves  and yet you  are not saying from where  they brought the IJAWS  to be slaves. If Ijaws were not there  did they bring them from the sky to be slaves ??  You went to their land and they accepted  you with kind  but you turned around to subjugate  them and call them slaves,  IMAGINE    YOUR WORDS,  FROM WHERE  did you bring them  as SLAVES  talking about slaves  To me its the ITSHEKIRIS  that were slaves  because we eastern Ijaws  knew  them as  Timber people  who live on their timber log  floating on the river and creek and thats where they live, Eastern Ijaws of KALABARI, BONNY AND OKRIKA  would buy timber from these ITSHEKIRI  timber  men and we wondered  if they were   humans due to their primitive  life style, This was the Itshekiri  PROPER and believe  me  they still live  on  floating Timber  selling Timber in the creek

Whether they were slaves or not Na God we create them

It Allah that created both slaves and masters and thank God you exposed yourself not only as a tribalist but also your historians as lairs.

So you Knew Itsekiris to be timber people and yet you people claim to have given then land. How is that possible

I am sure while they were felling the trees, they surely had settlements there or close by, so how did Ijaws now give Itsekiris land ?

Chai, nothing pesin no go hear from this drunk mumu.


Even Sabella Abidde an ijaw man started by saying " there are revisionist everywhere"

You are definitely one of them

Congratulations Enyojo

no wonder we did not see u around

We thank Allah/God for this

killayut:
AWO was a hard line TRIBALIST who was only for the interest of Yoruba people. Was it not the same AWO who changed the Itshekiri kings title from OLU Itshekiri to Olu of Warri and moved the stool from Ode Itshekiri to WARRI to create the Itchekiri enclave so as to picture the region a pro Yoruba enclave under the Itshekiri leadership ? How many schools were built by AWO in the Ijaw areas ?? How many roads were even constructed ? Was it not the same AWO that caused all yall being so blinded now about the existence of Ijaw people, land and enclave in the West ? So you now find it difficult to believe that Ijaws exist with their land or you are rather PAINED to know this hence your every day HATRED on Ijaw people, WHAT THE FUK YOU IDIOTS think you are by the way, ??

You are drunk

very drunk

In fact, I don't want to waste my time on an ideeiotic tribalistic mumu like you that hates both yoruba, itsekiri, igbos, bini and others. MUMU

I would bring out 3 ijaws that benefited from Awolowo's policies

[size=13pt]Mr Bruce and Comrade Evah[/size]

The Ijaw people who were celebrating the 102 posthumous birthday of the former premier of Western Region prayed that, “the Lord should give Goodluck Jonathan , the wisdom of Obafemi Awolowo”.

Also at the occasion, which took place at the National Arts Theatre in Lagos the Ijaw Monitoring Group presented an award to the matriarch of the Awolowo dynasty, Dr Mrs HID Awolowo.

Mr Bruce described Pa Awolowo as “a great Nigerian and a great patriot, whose reign as the Federal Commissioner of Finance was devoid of any external debt.”

He also described the recent endorsement of President Jonathan’s presidential ambition by Yeye HID Awolowo as “the greatest thing that can happen to Jonathan’s candidature, just about four weeks to the elections.“

Comrade Evah commended the sage for his vision, which has become a reference point in the development of Nigeria , “ even when he was not elected as president.

He said further that, the economic and educational vision of Chief Awolowo had sustained Nigeria to its present state and prayed that the Lord should allow that vision to continue in Jonathan.

Evah particularly commended the free education policy that was introduced by the former Premier of Western Region which according to him “helped several thousands of Niger Deltans.”

http://tribune.com.ng/index.php/community-news/18603-ijaw-people-invoke-awos-spirit


that is ONE

here is the second one

[size=13pt]Edwin Madunagu another ijaw man in delta state[/size]

On geopolitical restructuring, Awolowo proposed the division of Nigeria into 18 states, 11 of which were to be based on language and the remaining seven on "mixed" bases. He listed the composition of each state, its population and indigenous language or languages. Of particular interest here is the fact that Awolowo listed Edo and Delta states that were created in 1991, that is 25 years after he made the proposal. But his upper Delta state was exclusively Urhobo. The Igbo speaking areas of the present Delta state he merged the ijaw-speaking areas of the present Delta State with a Delta state which is exclusively Ijaw from both sides of River Niger. Chief Anthony Enahoro has since refined and extended Awolowo's proposals" showing, perhaps, a common origin of their social-political philosophies.



When Awolowo's books were released in early 1970s, they were attacked from the right as well as the left of the political spectrum. The conservatives accused him of advocating a lowering of the quality of education. Their view, in essence, was that anything that is free and is capable of possession by all, must, of necessity, be of low quality. To be of high quality, they claimed, education must be for those who can pay the fees which must continue to rise.



In any case, the opponents of universal free education argued, the proposal was unrealisable even if it was desirable" which they doubted. Awolowo strongly and exhaustively answered these objections both in the trilogy and in his subsequent speeches, writings and manifestoes. From the left came the familiar criticism of social welfarism: that it is a mid-way house which at best serves none of the opposing camps and at worst offers itself for appropriation, distortion, and integration into an anti-people programme. But Awolowo insisted that universal free education was socially desirable, feasible in theory and realisable in practice, in Nigeria. Beyond that, he argued that universal free education was neither capitalist nor socialist: it is a social objective which every country, whatever its system, must pursue, as a priority, if it must develop into an egalitarian and truly democratic society of contended and enlightened citizens. The handing over of schools to their "former owners" is a movement in the opposite direction.

http://www.nigerdeltacongress.com/articles/awolowos_peoples_republic.htm

where is that dumb tribalistic killayut mumu

[size=13pt]Awolowo accused of supporting the ijaws insisted of the remo yoruba people[/size]

Curiously Azikwe accused Awolowo of tribalism for supporting an Ijaw man rather than fellow Remo man. This crisis led to the split and destruction of NYM. Azikwe left the NYM followed by his Ibo supporters. Akinsanya later decided to contest for the vacant stool of the Odemo of Isara and later became the Odemo in 1941. His becoming a traditional ruler presaged Awolowo’s predominance in Remo polities.

http://www.thenationonlineng.net/2011/index.php/columnist/thursday/jide-osuntokun/16327-obafemi-awolowo-and-the-making-of-remo-a-review-2.html


Killayut mumu come back here

[size=13pt]Sabella Abidde both my parents are ijaws and how Awolowo help my family[/size]

[b]Revisionists are everywhere. [/b]For the most part they are attempting to rework history by allowing their prejudices, illiteracy, and preconceived notions to cloud their reasoning. These critics have become masters at injecting willful fallacies, calculated falsehood and historical nonsense into history; and in so doing, have began to cast aspersions on the memory of the great Obafemi Awolowo.

Chief Obafemi Awolowo was a political giant with an extraordinary mind and talent. He was graceful, charismatic and purposeful. Most of all he had vision, and was a nice and decent human being! Yes, Chief Awolowo had his shortcomings. He was not a saint. However, his failings and missteps were far fewer and less injurious than those of his contemporaries. Within the context of Nigerian, and indeed within African politics, Awolowo had no equal. None!

He towered above his contemporaries. Not only that -- all the leaders we’ve had since his exit from government and politics have been political dwarfs. One would be hard-pressed to name a political leader in Nigeria -- since the second-half of the twentieth century -- who did more for his people and for his country than Awolowo.

Awolowo was not a President. He was the Premier of the Western Region of Nigeria from October 1, 1959 until October 1, 1960. Nonetheless, his accomplishments dwarf the combined achievements of the last five heads of government Nigeria has had. And so from now until eternity his contribution to Nigeria’s socioeconomic and political life will be remembered and appreciated by discerning minds. As a federal minister under General Yakubu Gowon, he saved Nigeria from self immolation.

From the time he began his political career until his passing to the heavens -- his two great public missions was to make Nigeria better than the way he met it; and also, to secure Nigeria’s economic, social and political future for the next generation. But he was unable to achieve his presidential dream because he refused to compromise his principles; refused to betray his constituent and his conscience; and also refused to bow to the whims of the Colonialist. In addition, he refused to obey orders given by Dodan Barracks.

For these and other reasons, therefore, he was denied the ultimate political price: the Presidency of the Federal Republic of Nigeria. Because he was denied this political price, Nigeria has remained in the doldrums ever since. In Chief Awolowo, we lost the brightest star we’ve ever had and may have to wait another seventy-year for a man like him to take Nigeria to the Promised Land. Frankly, to say he was a statesman is an understatement. If he was an American or a European, the world would have placed him in the same league as Churchill, Roosevelt, Charles de Gaulle and many others.

We now have a growing school of shortsighted, narrow-minded, and mean-spirited critics who are into Awo-bashing: rewriting history, repeating age-old falsities, spreading lies and innuendoes and casting aspersions on the Great One.

Charles Caleb Colton it was who said that “In life, we shall find many men that are great, and some men that are good, but very few men that are both great and good.” Chief Obafemi Awolowo was such a man. He was good. He was great. He was extraordinary in many ways. And so I remember him today as I have since his passing on May 9, 1987.

Chief Awolowo was born at the right time, and lived his life in the right country. But whether our country was right for him is another question. His impact on the lives of millions of Nigerians is immeasurable. He lived his life for the people. More than two decades after his untimely passing, he remains the yardstick by which greatness is still measured in the most populous and most important country in the Black world.

More than twenty years after his passing, Awolowo lives on. He lives through his friends and family. He lives through his disciples. He lives through the great things he did for Nigeria. He lives through his writings and sermons. He lives through his political accomplishments. He lives through all those who believe in the goodness and kindness of the human spirit; and he lives through all those who genuinely believe in, and invoke his name and ideals.

He truly was a truly great man. Because of his brilliance and strength of character, he was very much misunderstood and envied; and because most couldn’t measure up to his expectation and greatness, they vilified him. If you were not alive when Awolowo lived, or if you were not fortunate to have met him, well, let me tell you this: He was graceful. He was charismatic. He was purposeful. Most of all he had a clear vision of what he wanted for Nigeria and for humanity. Above all else, he was a nice and decent human being! Oh AWOLOWO!!

Within the context of Nigerian, and indeed within African politics, Awolowo had no equal. He towered above his colleagues. To truly appreciate his greatness, all you need do is to take a look at the men and women who now dot, and have dotted our public estate and public space. Do so and you’d be hard-pressed to name a political leader in Nigeria, in the last 50 years, who did more for his people and for his country than Awolowo. In him we lost the brightest star we ever had and may have to wait another seventy years for a man like him

As I think of Awolowo, I wonder what would have become of our country. I think of how far we would have gone in terms of human and economic development. I think of all the possibilities and the dreams and aspirations we had as a nation. I miss him. I miss a good man, I miss a great man. I cannot now remember who it was who said, “Some people come into our lives and quickly go. Some people move our souls to dance. They awaken us to a new understanding with the passing whisper of their wisdom. Some people make the sky more beautiful to gaze upon. They stay in our lives for awhile.” Awolowo was this and much more. He will remain in our lives for eternity.

To further your understanding/appreciation of Chief Obafemi Awolowo please visit:

http://www.nigerianmuse.com/projects/Awoproject/?PHPSESSID=80a333ce9b34574eeaf9416291533225



Thanks for your response. I was not patronizing anybody, at all. �What for? This essay was first published 2-3 years ago. This may not have a direct relevance to your criticism, but you want to know that both of my parents are Ijaw, not Yoruba. I was born and grew up in Lagos and also spent considerable amount of time in Ibadan, Ilorin, Jos, Oshogbo and Port Harcourt. I know what I know and most of what I know about Chief Awolowo was not a �third-hand account.� Both Awo and Dr. Tai Solarin were influential in my life. By the way: You may want to go read what I have written about Ojukwu, Buhari and the Igbo as a people. And oh, I have in-laws from the North and the East. I know what I know and only write about the things I know. Sorry for the digression�Thanks my brother � do have a wonderful week.

Cordially,

Sabella Abidde

so Killayut u are big mumu

Lastly from a biafra website
[size=13pt] By Jaju[/size]

Chief Awolowo had in the platter plate for the people of western region that then icluded edos, urobos[b], ijaws [/b]and the western ibos.By unequaled social programs of Awolowo I mean the free primary education, free medical and health services, increased secondary education facilities throughout the region provision for university training.

Killayut infact go read of Chief (Dr.) Samson Mamamu the leader of western ijaws before u post crap

killayut:
Bro  your partiality is taking it's toll  Like yall despise the Ijaws and refered to them as fish who live on water  abi in water ?  That 's how  all their neighbours  attacked them too. And in every  attack Ijaws  would cry out first  atleast for government to  react. But the attackers were always either backed  by bigger tribes  like Yoruba and always  Yoruba in this case  so the Ijaws had no choice  but to either  defend  or  take reprisal,  GELEGELE is the latest,   You and the world knows   GELEGELE is inhabitted  by Ijaws and as  far as we know  Nigeria is not an apartheid  state  so who gives  right to any tribe to question Nigerians  living at anywhere ?  This is one point you  must ponder on,  Has  goverment  given the residents  of GELEGELE to relocate or move that they never did ?  LET US KNOW THYE STRUCTURE OF NIGERIA  before we  proceed .  So tell me who is threatening to kill the people of GELEGELE ?  Let us  look at the recent one  and forget about Itshekiri issue   to see if  you ALJ HAREM  makes sense   or  not,  Bro   you should  be ashamed  of  your self.  You think you are dealing  with one dumb.  All your words  are  rhetoric of HATE ON THE IJAW,  you stupidly lie or  spew out of ignorance and delight in what you say.  YES you wish  the BINIS  GO TO GELEGELE and kill the IJAWS AND  YOu  ll cry blood  if the IJAWS  successfully defend  themselves  if  that attack takes  place,   You are a silly  nasty tribalist  and guess what, It is  your tribalism that made us  remove the federal capital from Lagos  to ABUJA,    The same tribalism  is making you  think Nigeria   does not have a constitution, How many  times have you Yorubas  tried to take back your seized  ILLORIN  from the Fulanis  ? MENTION one  VILLAGE  OF ILAJE, YORUBA, ITSHEKIRI  that the IJAWS  FORCEFULLY occupied,  , what  would you see  or say of  an IGBO settlement  deep in Yoruba  enclave ?  From the arrangement of settlements   at the COAST of EDO, DELTA and  parts of Ondo   CAN'T  you see  IJAW villages  are  completely scattered all over  the  place   obviously  proving  IJAWS  are the natives,  Did  ITSHEKIRI  not write in their history that  a part of them came from  IGBIRA or Nupe and a part came from Bini while another part came from Yoruba,  if thats the case  does it not make sense that  ITSHEKIRI is a politacl arrangement and not a tribe   that settled  in the IJAW town of  SEIKIRI ( Evil forest )  Don't  you know that  Ganuwa the Bini prince  that started  or founded  the OLu dynasty  went to settle among a people ( Those people were who ? )  You may never want to answer,  They were Ijaws. Ijaws  have always allowed strangers  to dwell among them  because Ijaws were never territorial,   If you  do not want to be neutral and reasonable   you better KNOW   We  are READY  to play ball  no matter what kind of ball  ,  This is not the era   of AWOLOWO when Ijaws were deprived  of education, schools and   every thing,  Now  at least  some of us  have gone to school, learned  enough to know and  very much ready  to FIGHT BACK,

can you see how you hate and lies have blinded you from the truth

1. First of all, I am not yoruba or awori or what ever

2. Awolowo gave every single person free education even arogbo and apoi ijaw. You should go read about Sowere the owner of Sahara Reporter, He is apoi Ijaw from Ondo state and claimed he benefited from Awolowo free education

[b]Also at the occasion, which took place at the National Arts Theatre in Lagos the Ijaw Monitoring Group presented an award to the matriarch of the Awolowo dynasty, Dr Mrs HID Awolowo.

Mr Bruce  described Pa Awolowo as “a great Nigerian and a great patriot, whose reign as the Federal Commissioner of Finance was devoid of any external debt.”

He also described the recent  endorsement of  President Jonathan’s presidential ambition  by Yeye HID Awolowo as “the greatest thing that can happen to Jonathan’s candidature,  just about four weeks to the elections.“

Comrade Evah  commended the sage  for his vision, which has become a reference point in the development of Nigeria , “ even when he was not elected as president.

He said further that, the economic and educational vision of Chief Awolowo had sustained Nigeria to its present state and prayed that the Lord should allow that vision to continue in Jonathan.

[size=14pt]Evah particularly commended the free education policy that was introduced by the former Premier of Western Region  which according to him “helped  several  thousands of Niger Deltans.

http://tribune.com.ng/index.php/community-news/18603-ijaw-people-invoke-awos-spirit

this is just One would of thousands of Ijaws in the western region. Go read Mrs mogaji and Sowere (Apoi)

this is an ijaw from delta state just an example U bloody lier[/size]”

this are other links of other ijaws

http://www.nigerdeltacongress.com/articles/awolowos_peoples_republic.htm

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3. Stop playing the victim mentality. No one hates the Ijaws. Ijaws hate everyone. Maybe you need to read with Dokubo wrote of igbos and yorubas

within the last 2 years Ijaws have fought with Ibibios, Aworis, ilaje, itsekiri, Ikwerre, Ogonis, Urhobo and binis

is this normal ? I ask

4. Fulani conquered Illorin and not kwara. Get your facts right and stop posting thrash

5. You said Bini controlled the Ijaws, only to lie again and say gelegele was not a Bini territory

6. May be you need to read of itsekiris begging the ijaws while you claim their land is a conquered territory at kpokpo near warri

However, some Gbaramatu Ijaws, who spoke to newsmen, yesterday, maintained that the land now belongs to them, insisting that some Itsekiri boys came to pull down the staff quarters they were erecting on the land.

[size=13pt]Vanguard learnt that the Itsekiri owners were told by their Ijaw neighbours, that Kpokpo was a now conquered territory. [/size]

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2011/07/tension-in-delta-as-ijaw-plans-to-build-on-razed-itsekiri-villages/

karl max:
The Buhari Cabinet

 
Head of State : Muhammadu Buhari 1984–1985

Chief of Staff :Tunde Idiagbon 1984–1985
 
Defense: Domkat Bali 1984–1985
 
Agriculture : Bukar Shuaib 1984–1985
 
Trade : Mahmud Tukur 1984–1985
 
Communications:  A Abdullahi, Lt Col 1984–1985
 
Education: Yarima Ibrahim 1984–1985
 
Finance : Onaolapo Soleye 1984–1985
 
Abuja:  Mamman Jiya Vatsa 1984–1985
 
Health:  Emmanuel Nsan 1984–1985
 
Internal Affairs : Mohammed Magoro 1984–1985
 
Foreign Affairs : Ibrahim Gambari 1984–1985
 
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Transportation: Abdullahi Ibrahim 1984–1985
 
Energy :  Tam David-West 1984–1985



Justice: Chike Offodile 1984–1985
 
Works:  Patrick Koshoni 1984–1985


How many where from the northern part alone out of 18 minister and u buhari supporter would say the problem with nigeria is tribalisim ignorant haters

Are we met to put people in the ministerial position based on ethnic group or based on track record I ask ?

I hope u know not every leader is swallow minded.

Fashola could have put all yorubas in his carbinet but insisted went for track record and added some Igbos to it.

Same with the gov of kano

so all this number of northerners and number of southern is very irrelevant

arsenefc:
I don leave that nama.

Just [b]waiting for a call [/b]and I gogo go sleep

wife or girlfriend Fstranger take am easy o.

umechuma:
Northerners are afraid of true federalism in Nigeria because it will further lead to backwardness of the North.The North is an economic parasite to Nigeria.

I do not intend to insult you but I think u are a goat

Who removed federalism, was it not Ironsi or so, was he a northerner

What parasite are u talking about

DOES AN AVERAGE NORTHERNER SURVIVE ON OIL MONEY ?

Is oil food ?

How many oil jobs have northerners taken away from the south

How many southern resources is controlled and ruled by northerner ?

I think you people just like blaming the North because you are unfortunate 

arsenefc:
Hey Alhaji, dont mind that nama

How body and wifeys

body dey

a beg leave ekt-bear alone

[quote author=South-East link=topic=769880.msg9233945#msg9233945 date=1317177647]Hehehe. Just one out let for Dangote. The case of Dangote was actually discussed in an Igbo meeting recently as someone used him as an example of how Igbos should stop investing in the North.
What investment does Danjuma have in Igboland? Are those cattle stocked permanently in Igboland or they are moved from place to place? Please explain. Thanks. I have not seen any house in Igboland owned by a Northerner. However, I will like Igbos on here to comment on this claim.[/quote]Danjuma, Saraki, Atiku etc must not necessarily invest in "igbo land" but so long as they provide employment for the Youths of Igbo origin, then I think it is good as well.


@highlighted

You would be shocked. I don't know why you people think people don't live in the SE region . Just because people don't speak their language because SE is basically pidgin english does not mean they are Igbos. There are quiet a lot of Northerners in the SE region but business is[b] VERY VERY UNFAVOURABLE IN IGBOLAND[/b] this is due to the competitive nature of Igbos in business even if it means making a counterfeit of the product.



south-east I also have to add that Igboland is not necessary but as long is it is built in the EAST

Igboland specifically is too narrow and the land mass and population does not favour investment given that igbo people are business people, thus New Ideas are quickly over flooded with counterfeits etc.

arsenefc:
I am sure the hardworking people earning minimum wage, while slaving away their future and that of their children, would agree with you.


Th viciousness of your NL animus toward the indigent is breathtaking, and down right pathetic.

fstranger u don start again o

[quote author=South-East link=topic=769880.msg9233899#msg9233899 date=1317176112]Alj Harem,

Can you point to one single northern investment in Igboland? Even Dangote does not have any, as far as I know. Or do you mean maigida (gateman) investments and moving cattle back and forth from North to South?[/quote]Dangote has a lot of offices in port harcourt and calabar

but in terms of IGBOLAND

yes he does

ANAMBRA AREA SALES
C/o Chief M. O. Mbonu
Shop No F, 22/23,
Bakery Material Market,
Ogidi- Onitsha, Anambra State

that is just one of the many sections. Also a great employer of labour which some are Igbos

also Danjuma

not to talk of other hausa traders in stocks like foods, clothes etc

and fulani, kanuri stock in cattle which 1 may cost about 50-120 thousand Naira.

Not necessarily hotels but houses, Yes hausas build houses in Igboland and even Kanuri people.

Federalism is a good idea but I hope it would not create secessionist groups

Also how many regions would it be, certainly not 6 regions

either 4, 3 or 2

4 ways which is the west, east, NW and NE

3. The north, west and east

2. North and south

[quote author=ndu_chucks link=topic=769880.msg9232111#msg9232111 date=1317149330]As I drive through the streets of Kaduna, like Ahmadu Bello Way, or visit the commercial areas of Abuja, I  quickly realize that, these areas will not be bubbling with as much commercial activities without Igbo traders and investors.  Hotels, Shops,  factories,  not to talk of underground gun running companies, Restaurants, and yes necessary Ashawo trading,  Private primary/secondary schools, ati be be lo, could not be thriving as they do, without Ndigbo. I went to a small shop for quick stop during a trip for a drink of chilled Pito, in a small village called Ungwan Shinkata, and  to my greatest surprise, an Igbo man owned the place and was making the traditional drink!!

I submit that if only 10% of those Igbo businesses were located in the East, development in the area would have improved significantly and millions of youths would have employment instead of resorting to kidnapping and get-rich-quick rituals.

To make it worse, you read every now and then how Igbos are killed like animals in places other than the East- they are  first and ready target of any crisis be it religious or terrorist acts such as  Mend or Boko haram bombings.

Its time for Ndigbo to return to the East and develop that place, Araiara market for example should have been transformed into one of the biggest trading malls in Africa by now, instead, the same Igbo investors abandoned the place only to go and build huge shopping Malls from Abuja, to Kano, to Sokoto.

My question is Why Instead of writing Yoruba ronu, I’ll simply write Ndigbo Ronu (Ndigbo think)!!! Our people talk say: Okuko si na ihe ya ji-ele anya n'enu ma ya na añu mmiri bu na ihe na-egbu si n'igwe abia meaning (The chicken says it looks up when drinking water because what kills it comes from the sky).  Are my people so thirsty that they refuse to look up like the said proverbial chicken?  SMH[/quote]Ndu my taking on the matter is this

I think if we are One Nigeria, anyone should be free to go any where they want without the fear of being killed or losing investment in their home region.

Although if you invest outside your home region, you are not doing anyone any favour but yourself since you want to make money.

Today if I get posted to benue state and I invest or start up a business there, then it is to feed me and my family; I don't really care about my people at that point.

A lot of Northerners have investments in SE states and a lot of Yorubas have investments in SS states. Igbos have a lot in the SW and yorubas have a lot in the North.

It is kind of an intermixing thing.

The only problem is that is noticeable for igbos because they speak their language, they also tend to make in obvious about how they are investing in this place but really, who cares. You invest to provide food for your family .

[quote author=PROUD-IGBO link=topic=769880.msg9233800#msg9233800 date=1317173591]^^^ You FOOL!!! From the first time i had the misfortune of reading one of your biggoted posts, i knew you were not Igbo. Why can't you stick to your real identity? Or are you ashamed of your own people? Honestly, the subterfuge and cloak-and-dagger tactics idiots like you employ in their 'battle' against Ndigbo shows how truly insecure and pathetic you really are.

As regards the portion of your 'submisssion' in red: you really think criminality is solely found amongst the Igbo? Going by your daft post, can we take it you're saying most(or all) Igbo youth engage in kidnapping and get-rich-quick-rituals?

Ask any neutral observer who the most hardworking set of people in Nigeria are; ask which set of people are known for begging and being a general nuisance; ask which set of people are breeding a class of youth with no ambition in life and who can kill a fellow human being in cold-blood like they're squishing a fly. Ask these questions, and the answers you get will be quite reavealing.

I hope you're beginning to see how your sense or reason is beclouded by your insane hatred of Ndigbo? So much so, that you're starting make Hitler look sane .[/quote]Ah nwannem my brother ndu-chuks is not tribal

I think we should be look at it as A nigerian thing and not tribal. Do not think he is taking a "jab" on igbos. He does not do that, that one is for people like ME although i have stopped

My brother if u took it the wrong way, I apologise on his behalf.

[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=770043.msg9233782#msg9233782 date=1317173394]How much money will this program cost?

And where will the money come from?[/quote]No homo but seriously I like the way you type in ur post

Very intelligent and yet simple. Good question

I suspect the IGR ekiti gets is from agriculture, Institutions, Professionals and tourism

Also some revenue from Ekiti, Osun, Ogun, Ondo and Oyo are gotten from Lagos

Although not all the money is shared equally but some of the revenues from lagos are given to them

[quote author=tpia@ link=topic=766113.msg9233594#msg9233594 date=1317169898]the apoi and arogbo arent unknown in their state of origin, to the best of my knowledge.

not sure how living on land makes them stand out, though maybe it would be considered unusual in the areas you mention.

in yorubaland they're known as ijo ori omi [ijaw living on water] and ijo ori ile [ijaw living on land].

the ones living on land trade with the yorubas i believe.

they also interact more with yorubas while the ones on water maintain ties with their kinsmen further east ie southsouth.

some of the yorubas on that side also live on water.[/quote]Not all apoi ijaw claim Ijaw

some claim yoruba

the Ijo (made up of a part of Apoi [note that some Apoi claim Yoruba ancestry] and Arogbo)

http://ipinleondo.com/myondostate/aboutondo.php

Beaf:
I guess you are in boko haram.
What are you fighting for, if not the freedom to remain id!ots? Other people are tired of you and it doesn't matter whether you employ weapons from Libya and angels from lucifer, you will still be defeated.

If the action of the militants leads to full scale war, then it would have boosted the chances of Nigeria developing, because you backward elements that take pride in places like Somalia will be crushed.

I can see u are sick again. Maybe you need to rest

No one is supporting Boko haram, but Mend threatening to chase all Muslims back to the north and talking of them coming to borno as they are a sought of liberation army