₦airaland Forum

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The DNA results might be indicative of lewdness, lust, sexual immorality, covetousness, adultery, fornication, extramarital and premarital sex.

Perhaps we should begin to query our mothers if we notice anything amiss concerning semblance.

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Can someone please help me with details about Ela as mentioned by the Yoruba, including quotes and their translations.

I want to believe that archeological investigations at the Sungbo Eredo and Old Oyo sites will reveal a lot about this matter. It seems gobsmacking to me that successive governments have not been able to do anything tangible concerning the Sungbo Eredo.

If the Ijebu people are the Jebusites then an closer look at the Ijebu dialect in comparison with that of the black people of the Sudan and with Hebrew just might help resolve this topic.

As for the translation of "eye" I was not yet aware, thanks. I have not been able to learn to speak Yoruba even though I have lived almost throughout in Lagos. But when I do, I would do a lot more research. However, I am surprised that many Yoruba people who speak their mother tongue fluently do not seem bothered to know the roots of the words they speak, even Christians who praise the Alpha and Omega on Yoruba. Neither do they seem to look at how sentences in constructed. Perhaps this should be a discussion for another topic.

The Yoruba facial feature is same and interchangeable with the facial feature of the Kanemi (Kanuri) and same and interchangeable with the facial feature of the Nubian.

Are you saying that Boko Haram are related to Yorubas?

The claim of the Nri/Igbo presence in Nigeria predating that of the Yoruba and Benin seems like a recent cook up to me. It also looks like an attempt at unnecessary competition for what is not. Is there any evidence including archeological findings and dates?

Na wa o! No stinking open gutters then. No floods as well. What are the architects and town planners of today doing and what have they been learning or refusing to learn? What could have been going on within the heads and hearts of those generations who supervised the degeneration/devolution?

They talk of "good ol' days" and have we experienced such? I felt bitter after seeing these pictures but then also felt hope for our future.

That water is very dirty - sewage, defeacation, urine, trash. To dive in may have been to put one's health at risk. But then shouldn't we all be willing to risk our lives to save another?

The incident has felt sickening.

Thanks for the pointers Negro_Ntns and I hope you do prepare that response again — I used to face something similar but later adopted a copy-before--clicking-reply approach. But I wonder how you were spot on concerning Amorphous.

Analysis of the etymologies of Nigerian languages and those of the descendants of Shem, Cush, Mizraim and Punt may reveal a lot. This individual whom I consider to be outstanding, Modupe Oduyoye has published some interesting books and been interviewed about these etymologies. I don't have access to them right now but would recommend them to anyone interested in our common history.

Andre Uweh, if it is true then I would ask myself whether or not to be ashamed of the activities of my ancestors in Canaan. By the way, I have recently seen similar styles of hair plaits on the women of South Sudan / South Kordofan /Nuba on tv (due to that region being in the news a lot these days).

Perhaps too the Ijebu people are actually the Jebusites of old.

@Negro_Ntns, I very much doubt that Yoruba has roots in "old" Hebrew language because the Yoruba progenitors were probably existing by the time of Abraham. Abraham's dad, Terah (Asara), has been suggested as Nimrod's (Lamurudu) priest who was sculpting idols for the latter. What I would say is that there are language similarities due to the influence having lived in the same area as the Hebrews. I do have a copy of the research paper that I'm guessing you read. Besides, there is the assertion that the Yoruba were pursued to the area occupied by Yemen. If so, it probably lends credence to the claims by the Ijebu (previously called the Jebu by the colonialists) people about their migration from the region of Sudan called Waddai in Sudan — Sudan is by the horn of Africa and beside the Arabian peninsular. "There are immigration legends which tend to link the Ijebu with the biblical Jebusites and Noah (hence Omoluwabi -- omo ti Noah bi -- the children of Noah) but these are farfetched"

Western researchers and the Ijebu have also asserted that the Yoruba people arrived at their present homeland in two waves of migrations, lending credence to the story of migrating from the east (the Benin people should revise their claims). In a BMC Evolutionary Biology research article, "African signatures of recent positive selection in human FOXI1", it was mentioned that the Yoruba acquired a positive selection with regard to the human FOXI1 gene that enabled more water-electrolyte balance retention in dry conditions as they migrated from East Africa.

@sbeezy8, I doubt the authenticity of those claims as to the arabic loan words as I don't know if there is anything like "Olohun" in Yoruba language, especially as we have the meaning and root of the word OLORUN (OLU-AWO-ORUN):
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Oral Traditions that have come the way of the writer state categorically that, the Yoruba name for the Supreme Deity is OLORUN , It is OLORUN, not because OLORUN means "The Owner of Heaven" - one cannot intuit Spiritual Potencies by using the Yoruba Dictionary - but because He is the OLU-AWO-ORUN, or OLUWO-ORUN, the Master of the Masters of the Sacred Mysteries of Heaven, a title fore-shortened into OLU-ORUN, and into OLORUN; He is indeed the Owner of Heaven, because of his place in the Heavenly Hierarchy; he is not the Owner of Heaven merely because the Yoruba word OLORUN means etymologically "the owner of heaven." We might go further and say that OLORUN is the Master of the Masters of the Sacred Mysteries of the Inner Courts of Heaven, because He has a sort of Prime Minister, or number two, in the OLU-AWO-ODE-ORUN, Master of the Masters of the Sacred Mysteries of the Outer courts of Heaven, in the Person of the great OFUN, the only one of the 16 ODU of IFA that the Babalawo always acknowledges by saying HEPA, whenever his symbol appears on the divining board. We could, perhaps, fore-shorten OLU-AWO-ODE-ORUN into OLODE-ORUN justifiably, but this is of no moment.

"OLORUN" is not directly involved in human affairs, because the Spiritual Force emanating from Him is of such Potency that it would shatter our human bodies; just as, were the Sun to come down nearer the Earth a few million miles, the result would be, not more light and heat and life, but so much of it that it becomes destructive, and death ensues. Hence OLORUN keeps His distance, for our safety, but it is His life, His everything, that we use. It seems to the writer that we can properly borrow Hindu terminology and say, of OLORUN, "Thou canst not know the knower of knowledge, thou canst not see the seer of seeing, thou canst not hear the hearer of hearing, thou canst not comprehend the comprehender of comprehension." For this reason, OLORUN has no shrines, no worship, but it is utterly erroneous to conclude that he is 'remote' or not known to exist.

http://destee.com/index.php?threads/getting-started-with-ifa.59403/page-2[/QUOTE]

Perhaps then it would not be farfetched to conclude that the Arabs have loaned some words from the Yoruba. Besides I almost see the claim as an attempt to "Arabize" and rewrite Yoruba history, the same way some people want to change Ọjọ Eti to Jimoh.

Nevertheless, permit me to add perhaps add what might be a crucial hint to this debate. If you have come across some information of the being called "ELA" in the Yoruba oral tradition and are interested in etymology, how about a comparison with the Arab word ALLAH and "EL" of the Canaanite cultures?

Was there ever a council of Obas for the whole of Yorubaland or ar you not referring to Oyo state? Once again I ask for any record indicating that the Ijebu people were ever under Alaafin.

And the it is raining once more; started at about 1.00 am.
The other time, parts of Bariga and Shomolu/Akoka/Abule Ijesha were flooded.

@tpiah, gutters are different from canals.

Yinkay:
My Gaari ijebu don soak patapata,

O ga o! Dat one na serious mata. Don't worry, it is well.

Religious leaders could preach more about cleanliness and healthy habits since many people over here seem not to like reasoning on their own. They could also start promoting public health from their pulpits instead of collecting money for one church project or the other in the midst of filth.

The Lagos State Government should embark on a massive Public Health campaign as a matter of urgency. In fact, there can be adverts across various media hammering on the need for better public health just like the anit-AIDS jingles and radio plays.

@kandiikane, you called your teacher (fellow man) a goat, didn't feel guilty and remorseful, and wanted pound of flesh?

Thanks all. Please don't be vexed with the delayed response - slow internet connection.

I am yet to have access to a sample database (and for a Mac). Until then I guess its abstract implementation/practice.

Thanks again.

From a purely medical standpoint, there is NO safe area of the human body suitable for assault with a stick or other blunt-force weapon.

What about the gluteus/heinie/buttocks - aren't they round and fleshy enough to absorb the strokes? How about a law restricting flogging to this area?

I would appreciate some help with info about learning Oracle SQL on a Mac OSX platform. Where can I get sample databases and other relevant and legit materials for free online?

But isn't getting used to it is like dancing with the dragon rather than fighting it? I have protested against such in the past but my voice was like the lone one. Others asked me to calm down and I suspect that they were willing to keep quiet because of religion. Nevertheless, is it right for people to use the name of religion to engage in lawlessness?

I did not judge, neither did I call you childish. Besides, your friend will not seek to tell you what you want to hear but tell you as it is out of love. Just move on and in peace too and you'll get through without pain.

Audio amplifiers like the microphone, megaphone, and speakers were not invented in or by Nigerians. Yet preachers here and in Lagos especially, both “Christian and Muslim”, use them as if they inspired their invention. They use these inventions to assail ear drums from dusk to dawn, in the open and within their buildings of congregation.

At times, when I wake up at dawn and want to pray/meditate, someone is busy trying to distract me. These evangelists seem to prefer going to residential areas to preach rather than also to police stations and government parastatals like NNPC, PPPRM, the Nigeria Police, NFA, Nitel, and so on. Isn’t this very much unlike John the Baptist? Also, there are the muezzins and calls to prayers. There are also the different churches who hold so many programmes during the week and act like they want to be heard all over the country from their buildings if possible.

How then is the individual to meditate and find quiet time to pray to his MAKER with all concentration except perhaps in the dead of the night? Aren’t these religionists trying hard to make a Babel out of Nigeria? Isn’t there an overdose of avoidable noise pollution already?

I then wonder whether or not this is ignorance or self-induced blindness.

Confusion is NOT holy.

Why are many Nigerian (Lagos) buildings, homes in particular, constructed with very inadequate parking space? I try not to see such as nuisances but then I wonder what goes through the minds of landlords, architects, civil engineers, town planers, graduates of estate management, and the likes.

@JSL, there was no need for all the details as it makes for easy identification. What if others that know you and may have wanted to help now see your action as immature or sour grapes? The milk has since spilt but life goes on. If you think you've had it bad, think again. Some have been looking for jobs for ages, some lost their jobs after going on leave for medical reasons, some are facing days of hunger, some are facing amputations etc. What if something unpalatable happened to you if you had taken the bank job offer? What if your acceptance of the fashion job was your best decision ever (not according to reasoning of the flesh)? Give thanks to your MAKER rather than lament on Nairaland or to fellow men.

Is Seun going to report apache77 to the EFCC?

Is asking the Father the same as asking the angels?
Did Daniel pray to Angel Michael?

Where is it mentioned in the CCC Constitution? Can you quote the location in the CCC Constitution?

Is this part of the CCC Constitution? Is it Scriptural? Where in the Bible is it mentioned that an Angel was called upon by a Man? Which of the recorded prayers in the Bible has it? How did Jesus Christ teach us to pray ( Matthew 6:9–13)?

the form of prayer at CCC (Jehovah, Jesu Kristi, holy Michael)

Why not Jehovah, Jesu Kristi, Emi Mimo?

Again, is it of the Divine Order and mentioned in the CCC Constitution?

@KenGali, well said. Illegality remains illegality. It seems like many Igbo people like to blame others instead of taking responsibility for their actions[correct me if I'm wrong]. There have been many Igbo people who have held influential positions in various governments. They have been awarded various contracts. But how have these reflected? I remember how they complained loudly that Obasanjo was marginalizing their region, especially for road rehabilitation. They then kept quiet when it was revealed that contracts had indeed been awarded to their kinsmen.

They should just put in more effort at doing things legally and I'm sure they will see wonders.