₦airaland Forum

tdayof:
Yes I know. I mean communicating with a nearby unit.


You should have at least 3-8km in a jungle with a back pack radio operating on an external antenna.

Sorry at least, you should be able to communicate with a nearby unit.

3 to 8 km range when they 15km from. The nearest freindly base. The distance evolved here are large than you think.

tdayof:
Lol I know what I'm talking about. Deep in the jungle, deep forest etc whatever. Our guys are now been able to operate handheld radio.

Let forget about handheld radio. What about a back pack with a separate antennae operating on a very low frequency? Radio relays etc?

My point is there are other options that could have been abducted. At least a backup deep down in the forest.

radios obey cretin laws of physics. You need the tower so the radio can rely long distance.

ssaengine:
SANDF Oryx has crashed in the Western Cape, 8 injuries.

only the pilot is in hospital due to back pains



https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DQr8ohcW0AE4mca.jpg

MikeCZA:
Misuse!!!!! rumours some people* used to guard a homestead.

Why not just better equip the PPU's CAT alpha team. Heavy retractable weapons similar to the Dillon convoy escort vehicle or the Meerkat system on a civilian vehicle. And leave the SF to handle strategic needs.

Special forces are trained to a far different level that is needed for a external deployment. Hence they where used. Police are not trained to fight armies.

Patchesagain:
Zuma in Burundi with Recce protection


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYe2Blxbhxg

I find it very interesting when Statesmen do this. Zuma has the Counter-Assault unit as was as the PPU to call on, both are para-military and both could certainly handle the threats one would likely face in Burundi.

SANDF handle external deployment protection

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B-xqyBJUUAALGPt.jpg


look what propped on the trucks wheel

tdayof:
Anti submarine warfare and anti mine. What are they using to practice those stuffs?

Mines are actually easy. You dont need any thing special for that.


"We have been defeated by country with out a navy, using weapons from world war 1 and boats from the time of mosses"


Para phrasing the USN command during the Korean war

SupremeCourt:
R.I.P. to the 15 UN peacekeepers and 5 Congo troops killed this week in D.R.C. as rebels overran their base, 50 troops also wounded.

UN gave excuse that all UN helicopter gunships have limited night combat capability and so did not fly in darkness to save the UN base in a whole four hour night long attack!!!!!!!!!!! Stupiiiid continent of poor equipment. See nonsensical old fashioned rustily rustic armoured battle vehicles that we use in Congo. Biggest shame. D.R.C. has the best and biggest mineral resources mix in the world. Most military generals in this Africa are useless, if those fools look at this thread's photos they will see what their countries' defence budgets can afford to buy and use to save lives of soldiers in our bases.

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SA helicopters fly at night but not under the UN. Though i have heard of them doing so in DRC.

North Korea all so have not launched any missile with a pay load so there real range is not actually known.

lionel4power:
according to the manufacturer, it can guide ASM but SAN doesn't use this capability. why?

Don't have the money to buy missiles we won't need. All so they can guided the frigates anti ship missliels.

Though if we ever needed to we could get ASM or even torpedoes for our helicopters. They are what we call fitted for but not with.

lionel4power:
what type of radar is it?

Ocean-Eye a 200nm radar

https://www.telephonics.com/product/aps-143cv3-oceaneye


A Sysdel Sea Raven ESM system allows passive detection And the FLIR of course.

lionel4power:
no underneath the fuselage... there is a large round dome.

That's the radar.

Frumentum:
The NCACC 2016 report of all SA defence exports and imports.
SA defence industry sells to quite a diverse clientele.

https://www.sipri.org/sites/default/files/2017-09/sa_2016_0.pdf

Those missiles we sold to Germany are 1 million euro a pop

https://i.imgur.com/a1ewr6K.jpg



iraq

http://macua.blogs.com/files/we-did-not-see-it-even-in-afghanistanangola.pdf



Posting this since i assume you all might find it interesting.

lionel4power:
there is no known confirmed kill for S-300 so far. Even Russia doesnt brag about its efficacy. The media has overhyped the S-300.

and how does that take away from it's effectiveness?

jakeporeshenko:
I asked for your personal opinion on SA Denel selling arms to Iran, TF does America and slavery have to do with it ?

Simply they pay they good.

jakeporeshenko:
Personally do you guys approve of this ?

why would i care. Not like we are are a slave to america

newafricaken254:
SAfrica's Zuma in Talks to Sell Most of Denel to Qatar, STimes

South Africa is in talks with Qatar to sell a majority stake in its arms manufacturer Denel SOC Ltd. to the Gulf country, the Sunday Times reported, citing a source it didn’t identify.

President Jacob Zuma is also seeking to sell portions of other struggling state-owned enterprises, including power utility Eskom Holdings SOC Ltd. and South African Airways SOC Ltd., the newspaper said. The Department of Public Enterprises, which would need to approve the transaction, did not immediately respond to Bloomberg’s requests for comment.

Denel was among state entities bailed out this year to prevent a call on its government-guaranteed debt. This list includes South African Airways, the South African Post Office and the South African Broadcasting Corp. which all may require further intervention, the National Treasury said in its mid-term budget report.


Qatar’s Defense Minister Khalid Bin Mohammed Al-Attiyah is believed to have discussed the proposed acquisition with Zuma during a state visit earlier this month, the newspaper said.

A spokesman for the president denied the report. “There was no discussion of the issues” during the minister’s “courtesy call,” Bongani Ngqulunga, a spokesman for the president said in a text message.

Mayihlome Tshwete, a spokesman for National Treasury, says it isn’t aware of any such discussions. He said the treasury has spoken to the Department of Public Enterprises about the matter and the department denies the talks. link https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-11-26/safrica-s-zuma-in-talks-to-sell-most-of-denel-to-qatar-stimes

denel was not bailed out this year though. Some seems strange about this news artical. Seeing how denel is ll working to sell arms to iran.

newafricaken254:
don't act dumb,your ratel,casspir,SAMIL 100,Olifant e.t.c were being utilised deep inside angola,how were they being repaired and maintained!?

Recovered and moved to Namibia by recovery teams if the damged was great enough or scuttled in country if totaled. minor fixes are done in the field. EG the battalion could swap a ratel egien in Angola but not fix said engine

newafricaken254:
i thought cuito cuanavale is in Angola not Namibia !

it is and your point is?

newafricaken254:
so to you mogandishu is a warzone ,the port of mogandishu isn't functioning,to fix an axle you need to be rocket scientist (even though those MRAP's are being cannibalised for parts to repair other MRAP's)

photo of the paved roads of Angola

Comprehension is skill. Namibia has the paved roads going north to south.


And fixing a axel is one thing, building a axel is some thing different. Take that ratel. It sure is flooded. Get a recovery vic, put it in a trailer bring to based and send the engine home. The engine is over haulled and electrical wiring replaced and bam it is fixed. Hell you can do a engine swap in the field at night on a ratel and the battlion work shop can do the rest.

ActivateKruger:
Argentinians loose a sub on our backyard, everyone goes hunting for it (including the Brits) except our guys.... Andrewza, what gives?

It went missing of South America not southern Africa

SupremeCourt:
Yes. Google it.

It depends a lot on other factors.

SupremeCourt:
Six su-35 planes from what I hear after asking NAF boys, will defeat any air force in Africa except Egypt, they say its an awac range and capacity fighter jet

No

SupremeCourt:
Sudan has acquired Su-35 Flanker fighter jets from Russia ahead of President Omar Al-Bashir’s visit to Moscow on Thursday. First batch of Su-35 jets were delivered late last week, Sudanese deputy air force commander, Salahuddin Abdul Khaliq Saeed, announced the deal in March. He told Sputnik news agency that the jets will consolidate Sudan’s defenses for protection from any threat. The number of fighters delivered, however, was not released.

— Majid Mohammed Ali Special to Al Arabiya News English - Khartoum, Monday, 20 November 2017

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If the above news is true (Waiting for more reports) then Sudan is now the most powerful air force in Africa after Egypt. Even rafale pilots will fear su-35. Nigeria, South Africa, Ethiopia, sorry for you o!

How about you wait for more details like numbers. I mean 12 SU35s won't change the balance all that much.

ActivateKruger:
There's plenty of fake news currently circulating, including a possible Zambian military intervention to aid Mugabe. As I said, fake news circulating.

One article said Grace was in Namibia.

ActivateKruger:
Don't answer Augustine, you're fueling him

I answered so others may know what is what.

SupremeCourt:
Enlarged with massive recruitment for Boko Haram war 2014-2017, Nigerian armed forced now have salary bill of about $1.5 billion yearly as at 2018. In 2010-2015 the lower number of personnel had salary bills around $1 billion, but FGN defence budget was about $15 billion. It means $10 billion was available for new weapons and equipment procurement to Nigerian army, navy, air force 2010-2015. Please if you have photos of new weapons we bought for $10 billion kindly improve what you post on this thread, we keep seeing the same old weapons. Where is your $10 billion weapons? This thread needs the photos. Thanks.

Personal expense is more than salary.

How much do you think it cost to feed 100000 people, what about manta cents on buildings, medicine all so costs money, then are the cost of manta certain to buildings, electrical bills extra extra. It all adds up.

Then you have cost of conducting operations, you need fuel, spare parts, ammo, spare uniforms, lots of small items like binoculars Witch a good pair costs 200usd and a mill spec costs 400usd, what about batteries to your radios. So I suggest you put more thought in.

Covert1:
T'is not about France, it's about Zimbabwe don't change subject. And no they don't have more combat jets in the region if u mean numbers.

So why did you bring in Nigeria. Any case fact is yes South Africa does not have a massive difference in power over SADC. It not due to a weak South Africa but a strong SADC with multiple big hitters like Angola, Tanzania, Zambia, extra.

Now concerning Zimbabwe, fact is people either don't care about a coup, are happy for it or even support it.

So far there is no justification for a intervention in Zimbabwe. No call for aid or any human right violation.

Covert1:
Nigerians calling me out lol! Listen kid, there are Nigerians and there are Nigerians. So that's not an escape for u neither is calling me Augustine escape. I won't let this pass. Did u hear me? Cowards! That u and ignoramuses here don't know international relations don't mean I'll let it adorn nairaland.

Everything I write is continually validated here day by day only insolent-proud-I-too-know humans here act about it with f.oolery yet go behind to steal points and quote it by other terms here. I have talked on regional powers, what it means and the coercive measures it can bring to bear by various means. So, you are clearly not getting it. Because u're a kid I'll tell you again, now u cancel and remain mediocre as ur retort indicates or sit at the foot of the teacher and learn:

Long story short, you see what happened or is happening in SADC won't happen in ECOWAS, period. Why? Because an Hegemon exists: Nigeria. The states know Nigeria has the military threat dimension which don't necessarily have to be used but just the fact it exists brings Nations into acquiescence of the hegemon. I could draw you a scenario of measures Nigeria could employ in Zimbabwe to determine the outcome it wants and would it act yes it would. Failure to act makes it weaker. That's a regional power. It surreptitiously, covertly, overtly, economically or militarily determines the fate of nations under it's sphere of influence.

AK and indeed others I remember has been drawing for blood in Zimbabwe to show your military might now he's singing a different tune. Next time when a Nigerian talks y'all should just shut up and acknowledge whose your boss. That's the fact.

Here you are babbling nonsense. You think after all the noise you southies make of your capabilities condescending on us at every turn and the opportunity presents itself to prove it and you failed again I'll swallow it hook line and sinker, nah, imma call you out so it's documented. Where's your shiny Gripens? but alas the Zims know you have no combat capability. You can't fight. If you were a threat those Generals would dare not do what they did knowing the consequences. What happened in your backyard won't happen here and everyone knows it but the bias of ur media cousins especially bbc would have us read a different narrative to make SA still appear relevant in power dynamics but would never give Nigeria it's due. No, you are not.

One phone call from a Nigerian General and any officer planning a coup in sub-Saharan Africa will think twice and stand down.

I can't continue to indulge a kid. Oya cancel and get a jolt to your veins. The point has been made. SA military power and regional claim only exists on paper. Covert has been validated again and will be validated again.

LOL the biggest power in your neck of the wood is France and every one knows it.

ActivateKruger:
Actually I'm surprised they use tracked APCs and I see some are amphibious as well, I wonder what their doctrine is. Then you got reputable news agencies calling them tanks.

China is one of the only guys that deal with Zim and Zim is poor.

So bam they get old chic stuff

http://www.army-guide.com/eng/product983.html