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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 9:26pm On Apr 18, 2013
sheyie2007: a large part of nigeria remains unexplored... be very afraid
Yes and they found oil in SA. So go wet your bed.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 8:32pm On Apr 18, 2013
agaugust: [size=14pt] India buys Russia aircraft carrier $1.5 Billion [/size]

Tuesday, January 20, 2004 Posted: 6:37 AM EST (1137 GMT)


NEW DELHI, India (CNN) -- India has signed a $1.5 billion deal to buy a used Russian aircraft carrier and Russian fighter jets.

Indian Defense Minister George Fernandes on Tuesday inked the package that includes the carrier Admiral Gorshkov and 28 MiG-29k fighters as Sergei Ivanov, his Russian counterpart, looked on.

Web link source : http://edition.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/asiapcf/01/20/india.warship/index.html


Nigeria's current cash reserves can buy our navy an aircraft carrier if we want it, but we don't need it.


@DictatorZAR, did I hear you call @all4naija a F00L ?
from the post above, who is the real F00L ?

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You do know that was just for the hull.

Any case let's llok at some hidden costs.

If you need a aircraft carrier you need a crew. Let's say 1000 but you need support. SA has 1:3 but I beilfe nigeria has 1:2 so you now need a extra 2000 on the shoar. So that is 3000 people. About halfe will be high skill.

Air craft carrers are big so you will need to increase the size of the naval base.

Aircraft carrer need a escort. Based on threats at least 1 dn and a 2 to 3 frigats plus a support ship. So you need to buy them and crew them.

You need a resone to have one. Nigeria is still very regional and has a very short coast line. Land based aircraft would be cheaper.

You need to miantian it. Other wise it cecomes like thialands white elphant.

These are just a few things to look at.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 5:27pm On Apr 18, 2013
agaugust: did you fall inside swimming pool that had beer instead of water ? his post and we link source proved south African satellite is jointly built by Korea, NOT 100% by your Zulu nation as you and @DivtatirZAR falsely claimed, south did NOT build the micro-satellite alone, KOREA did half of the job or even more


Then it's a micro-satellite you south Africans had in that Korean project Nigerian satellites are much bigger and more powerful and the best in all Africa


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they did non of the job, they provide a few sensors to put on it.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 5:17pm On Apr 18, 2013
agaugust: south African website as we link source ! no sir, please post a neutral source from reliable international agencies, don't feed our stomach with south African cooked CAR war propaganda chicken soup, we are not that hungry !



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Yet you can post sa sites when they suit you?
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 5:15pm On Apr 18, 2013
sheyie2007: Dude why all the hullabaloo about your foreign reserveshuh its just 50! and nigeria's is 47
I mention budget and credit rating with that.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 5:13pm On Apr 18, 2013
all4naija: Yes! With the the oil and gas reserves in Nigeria that might compromised your country ability to purchase such armament. It is just a matter of yielding part of the reserves to the West who are very hungry for fuel. Did you get it clear now? So, leave aside foreign reserve which just a minute different in the value.
You want us to bielfe nigeria is richer than SA. Not all of us are fools or nigerians. They seem to be one and the same.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 5:07pm On Apr 18, 2013
patriot4: Look, it all dépends on the subject, the subjects on which people quote beageagle are not likely to be tempered with by beageagle for propaganda purposes, and beageagles himself doesn't comment on subjects in which he could be accused of propaganda without quoting outside reliable sources. In this cace, you ask eveybody to believe this man who till recently (and probably till right now) had a contract of the highest level of secrecy and authority with the sandf.
While at the same time I provided numerous links that are saying the opposit of what Helmoed Heitman is saying, some even have photos as proof. If you can't understand that you are an i.diot then I don't think I will keep reponding to your garbage messages.
Nothing has been said to oppos this report. You have not read it so I under stand.

And if he is propergander every thing nigerian is all sob propergander.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 5:02pm On Apr 18, 2013
agaugust: post the ISS and STRP sources that you claim above and show me list of all Nigerian missiles purchased from year 2000 to 2013 and I will drink my own urine !




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Iss milttary ballance. It is a book but you can googel it.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 5:00pm On Apr 18, 2013
all4naija: You are talking about budget which is something proposed and I am talking about expediency when something requires immediate attention. It is clear you don't understand what I am talking about.
I am talking money. SA goverment has way more money than nigeria and a lot more forghine reserves, far bbetter credit rateing, spends far higher amounts than nigeria.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 4:55pm On Apr 18, 2013
patriot4: I have explained with common sense, that is how you know what is propaganda, by using logics and common sense.
I am fed up of having pointless discussions with an i.mbecile like you. I am not here to do your primary school education.
And I point out how ilogical you where. He has writen a number of artical where he was very crtical of the SANDF. Yet you still say he is a propergander write and beagel can not write propergander. Yes I see your logic. Only the corrupt natsion of nigeria can be trusted.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 4:47pm On Apr 18, 2013
patriot4: Your lack of common sence and logical thinking goes beyond imagination.
Did you talk about integrity ?
How the f*** old are you ?
This is a matter that is verry important to the image of SANDF, I don't blame the guy, nobody apart from some South africans are taking that story serious. Since a lot of people witnessed this conflict then why don't you just give links from credible sources outside South afrca.
Once again you unable to proof he wrote propergander. So please find me proof of him ever writing propergander.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 4:45pm On Apr 18, 2013
agaugust: seleka rebels already did, they trained south African army how to fight real war without using weapons photographs....however, BBC report says 13 south African soldiers died during that practical training and 27 wounded, and some south African army vehicles also experienced change of ownership by force.


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Your utter lake of intelgiance has been noted.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 4:44pm On Apr 18, 2013
all4naija: @ andrewza

Have you forgotten Nigeria has the money to purchase flight carrier ship if it comes to that? It just for the senate to agree with the president and within a twinkling-of-an-eye it is done. In the case of SA the economic power whites will not agree with black government and the members of the parliament will have to take long time to grapple with too much noise before even considering on purchasing new Brazilian made bombers.
Are you a fool. Sa has has a bigger budget and more reserves than nigeria. And has planes to buy 2 LHDs

All so what with the last part. You going on about race again. You do know that ANC has so many seats in parlment even if all the opostion parts joined together the anc would still win evey vote.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 4:40pm On Apr 18, 2013
patriot4: This is the name of the author: Helmoed Heitman
everybody can Google him and find out that all I said about him is true.
You really lack intelligence!!!
He may have been critical, but he was so because he wants to better the SANDF. In this case he is trying to save the image and honour of the SANDF (and perharps his own carear) from this big humiliation.
Find me one link to back up your cliam. I mean you do know that this is a man of intgrity.

Yes he wants a better SANDF(he helped write the 2012 defense review)

His image was or would not be tarnished by a failing of the sandf nor would his job be in danger.

You realling showing your self to be a complet fool with zero intelgiance.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 4:34pm On Apr 18, 2013
agaugust: @andrewza was personally in the CAR rebels camp counting and recording the wounded seleka rebels as each one of them gave up the ghost and died, then @andrewza updates the figures by internet post on nairaland.


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Don't be foolish now.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 4:32pm On Apr 18, 2013
agaugust: Those are the only two buttons he can press on his laptop mouse or keyboard.

Copy...gbam

paste...gbosa


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Yet you can never refute what he says.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 4:27pm On Apr 18, 2013
agaugust: quote we link source to prove your above claim

you keep asking other people to prove claims but you don't prove your own claims. do you know the meaning of the word Fairness' ? that word does not seem to exist in south African dictionary


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you the one who uses that site all the time
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 4:27pm On Apr 18, 2013
patriot4: The fact is that this is a matter that could bring big shame to South africa, therefore South africa has no choice but to cover up, therefore its agents like the author of that article would be given the task to make up "spartan" stories.
And howcome the only links you can provide come from South africa.
By the way, beageagles' blog is often openly critical of the Nigerian armed forces.
And it is international observers who find it credible, so my opinion is of no importance in that.
So is that author even in that report he is very critcal of a number of failing in the sandf, actually he told the goverment laster year that ifthey did milltary deployments on the cheap people will pay in blood. He then reminded them of it again after this battel. This shows you have no idea who the author is or his level of intergrity.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 4:23pm On Apr 18, 2013
patriot4: They keep changing the numbers, they will soon say they killed one million rebels. Spartafrica in action.
I take you no idea what the term fog of war means.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 4:21pm On Apr 18, 2013
all4naija: Are you saying Nigeria doesn't have domain name for its military? You can have this link to educate you as you failed to take some smoochies. grin cheesy smiley
We taling about Civlian sites. I'm ean even this forum is a .com
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 4:15pm On Apr 18, 2013
patriot4: why am I not surprised that it is yet an other South african based website ?
And the author is an ex South african soldier, who still works closely to the southafrican national defence force.
You are so desperate.
So that makes it automatically propergander. So how can we trust beagel then.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 4:13pm On Apr 18, 2013
agaugust: [size=16pt] Facts ? you say these are more facts about CAR seleka rebels vs south African army, but NO Single web link we source to prove your claim of facts
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@andrewza, I have never met a more dishonest and unreliable white man like you, do you ever feel ashamed of some crazy comments you post ?
http://mampoer.co.za/helmoed-heitman/the-battle-in-bangui
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 3:54pm On Apr 18, 2013
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 3:50pm On Apr 18, 2013
sheyie2007: Nobody did? How come the Korean Advanced Institute of Science and Technology (KAIST) appeared in the article?
I though I anserwed that?
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 3:49pm On Apr 18, 2013
sheyie2007: Did someone just compare a forum to a website huh, dude, Really?
Is a forum not a website.

Any case there forum has a seprate website and the founder is a top guy in defensweb.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 3:46pm On Apr 18, 2013
DictatorZAR: Hahahahtongue beeagle is not a military specialist site it only has some active and veterans who contribute to it. Its more an informative platform on Nigeria's acquisitions and current military affairs blog nut not on the level of ISS or even janes defense for that matter. In SA we have many of such sites that's on the same level as beeagle including sites like
http://www.saairforce.co.za/forum/, which I am a registered member and contributor.
What your useer name that side.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 2:59pm On Apr 18, 2013
patriot4: I have already proved you wrong on this same page, eventhough I did it on other pages before.
You posted your incorrect, ignorent foolish opion.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 2:57pm On Apr 18, 2013
patriot4: I was trying to be nice and let this story to rest, but you are too much of a braggart big liar, I have countless more news links about your humiliation in CAR.
Writen by whom. You can post them I don't care I will dissprove all of them if I have not done so all ready french fool.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 2:54pm On Apr 18, 2013
patriot4: stop the foolish talk, provide link!
I provid many of them a long time ago.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 2:53pm On Apr 18, 2013
patriot4: keep quiet, you are talking rubbish. Stop saying things like if you were certain of them, especially when these are things happening in a country so far away from yours. this your belief that you know it all is what got your poorly trained soldiers humiliated.
Proof me wrong french fool.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 2:51pm On Apr 18, 2013
patriot4: link, please !
And even in what you said, you didn't say the rebels who died were killed by South african soldiers.
You were not the only ones fighting. And I am not a fool.
The seleka never lost that much soldiers and certainly not to you.
The rebels them selfs said SA put up the only fight, FACA and FOMAC either step aside, joined the rebels or put up only light restance. In the report I have the SANDF report 3 occasion where FACA solders joined the south african in battel. Once with a hind that fired a few shot and flew off, once with a ratel 90mm but it left after a few shots and once they fired at extem range at the rebels so SA told them to stop because there where south africans in there way.


The fact is that seleka them selfes are one of my sources.

I will not go and retrieve every ling again for you. If you still set on you ignorince and beilfes nothing will change you, you are a fool who knows nothing of what he speaks you not even african you a french man who wishes he was african.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 2:43pm On Apr 18, 2013
sheyie2007: your compatriot claimed nobody assisted you..
And no body did. The saterlight was built local along with all our experments,sk provided a few experemts for them and the us got to use it for payment for the launch.

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