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agaugust: I just proved you wrong with the Rooivalk helicopter against your claim of defense procument policy. Other people are reading your posts versus mine ! You got possessed with lying spirit through a sangoma herbalist in Soweto ?

And then I point out that thing called sacstions.

agaugust: thats your post where you lied about a defense policy that does not exist anywhere and I proved you a liar in my post above this one.

Why did you become like this @andrewza ? Is it because Nigerians made many comments about south African army's defeat by Seleka rebels in CAR and we refused to accept your propaganda lies on that issue ?

Is that why you D.estroy your own personal reputation and public credibility like this ?

Its so very sad how a human being can change from good to very very bad, just because of an internet forum argument.

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SA defense review.

You unable to dissprovre any thing. Or prove that I siad propergander. So please try again.


You are a fony lie fake. So please leave.

agaugust: Mr Fraud, click my username name agaugust and go to menu for viewing all my posts and see how many times I post comments with your own quoted and o clearly called you a liar in all those many posts.

You just told another lie again that south African defense procurement policy says you import weapons only when you need few numbers instead of local manufacturing.



So why did south Africa not import 11 helicopter gunships instead of locally producing 11 Rooivalk helicopter gunships ? Yet you imported 26 Grippen jets from Sweden !

Don't waste my time you fraud.

Go to blazes ! Big Liar !

You have never disproven any thing I have siade.

Sancstions.

agaugust: @andrewza, from your 3 posts above, tell those same lies to a F00L and he will still know you are telling lies big time !

Mr fake please show me my lies.

agaugust: [size=20pt] TRUTH : [/size]

[size=16pt] the most important south African military weapons are imported or made by European companies at a branch factory opened in south Africa, NOT real south African technology, all are imported.


Facts :

Grippen Jet Fighter Aircrafts are imported made in Sweden

Hawk Jet Trainer/Attack Aircrafts are imported made in Britain

Valour Class Frigate Warships are imported made in Germany

Type 209 Submarines are imported made in Germany

...and the list is very very long, endless !

The above weapons are the best and most powerful south African military weapons, without them south Africa will be very very weak and too easy to defeat by many African countries.

All these heavy weapons are European made products imported by south Africa. Google the weapons name and confirm on Wikipedia [/size]




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Then fited with SA sytems and will soon carry SA missiels and we make a number of parts for it. By the way do you know the gripen uses a american engien.

Same has the gripen

Same has above. Most sytems on it are local.

Same has above.

Are you done know.


SA defense procument poliece states that if we only going to get a small number we will import. This is to save money.


It a comon pratice that all countries follow.

Do you know the american styker ICV is actuall a swiss chassie built in cananda. Is it swiss, candan or yank.

agaugust: You were born and raised to tell lies at random.

Quote we link source to prove your above claim you fraud.

China and India supply most of the goods imported into Africa.

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Do you under stand the difrence between sold to and manfactored in. Must I draw a picture.

agaugust: @andrewza is a fraud and liar. When Nigerians post comments he asks for source web link to prove everything, but when he and his south African liars posts comment we they have no we link source to prove their claims about 8 out of 10 times. Then this scamster liar @andrewza will say there's no need for we link sources because their own posts / comment is common knowledge or has no online information available on internet.

He says Wikipedia is good when it favours him, he says Wikipedia is bad when it does not favour him .

[size=16pt] in all my years overseas, I never met any white man as corrupt and deceitful as @andrewza [/size] . I expected so much from him as one with Dutch background but his character is more like a professional thief fresh from jail.

shame on you Boer fraudster !

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That cheap coming from you. I give my sources. You on the other hand still claim a number of NN gun boats carry anti ship missiels, that your cobras carry AGMs and a host of other disproven or proven cliams.

You are a fake and should leave. You keep asking for sourve for things that you should know. Like your rise in pirate activty.

Any case I could not find a online source. It was 3 month old cape times bussiens artical.

But you can read this.

http://www.mbendi.com/indy/motr/af/sa/p0005.htm

solomon111: Pls what indigenous cars does southafrica manufacture?
Atleast Nigeria has IVM.

While the ford bantam was a localy desghied pick up, there are all so a few local trucks called the SAMAG. Most cars built in SA are intersnatiol though.

all4naija: This is a link to Nigeria military weapons procurement. SA is in soup if it threatens any nation of Africa with its military again.

Nothing amazing is listed. I mean you got to do better.

agaugust: @Andrewza should read the above post and then go to toilet and drink his own urine. Lol



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I have given my opion on it all ready.

all4naija: Not bad at all. As long as it is giant.Giant is giant, whether clay or other. Nigeria is the sleeping giant of Africa that will tower above SA. Go Nigeria!!!

You can be the giant all you want. Sa is the hope of africa.

all4naija: Don't worry until our naivety and st*pidity will fool you. Hahaha... Go Nigeria, we are the sleeping giant of African - not SA!

More like the clay giant.

CAMNEWTON4PRES: Exporters in cars? I doubt maybe wine tho China is now ruling the market in Africa. Like I said before and I keep saying SA can disappear for all we care most of us won't even know

I am talking only about cars. Just cars.

patriot3: Mr racist, it still makes no sense, who can go and quantify Tools being made in Africa ? And the subject is even meaningless, it can only serve (if true) as a way to boast.

Boasting. This is a thread on the milltary. A country with a strong idustrial base can better wether a war.

CAMNEWTON4PRES: Those cars are sold in Tanzania, Botswana that's all

Incorrect. All cars sold to sadc countries are not list has trad. Our 2 bigest importers are algeria then nigeria.

CAMNEWTON4PRES: Who is u?

Nigeria.

patriot3: You see when a Nigerian says anything, you people ask for links.
But you would boldly say something like this with no links!
It seems to me that most of the manufactured goods in Africa are from Asia and europe.

Did I say 80% of manfactored items or 80% of items manfactured in africa. Any case I will try to find a link for you. Not every piece of info is online.

CAMNEWTON4PRES: BS.
If you do b sure that your products don't reach us up there.

I don't know a south African brand expect MTN? And MTN doesnt manufacture anything

We sell you 1000s of cars alone every year. SA made products are all over africa. You just don't know.

CAMNEWTON4PRES: What is Dstv or shoprite?

You mean Gateway to criminality ?

Best in what?

SA companies.

Gatway in trade.

Idustial output, ecomny, stand of living, medical care, legal sytem defense extra extra.

CAMNEWTON4PRES: SA is only known in the southern region, you are a local champion. West Africa and Central Africa are more strategic positions and richer regions and Nigeria has a good presence there

You do know we manufocory around 80% of everthing in Africa. And have companys that are now global in size. What does nigeria have. Forghine owend companys drilling your oil and taking all the money.

patriot3: Andrewza, you are really not verry smart. Sometimes you look like a child. I will let you answer this on your own, or just read this article:
http://newsrescue.com/boko-haram-a-cia-covert-operation-americas-destabilization-plots-against-nigeria-greenwhite-coalition/#axzz2S7wFRM8U
Or just look for wikileaks documents, or CIA documents of the 70's.

i have a few problems with this

1 this should have destroyed nigria us relanshnship. but nothing has changed. so either it is a lie or they not telling us every thing

2 wikileak has a agenda against the us, i ted not to trus them unless somthing comes from there leaks. nothing came from it.

CAMNEWTON4PRES: Nigeria oil reserve will b dry by 2040 so Nigeria should massively invest in industrialization. African in general should learn to consume African be it from Nigeria, Ghana, etc we need to learn how to appreciate our products.....and those industries should learn to build what we call trustworthy/trust

Because as I'm talking many African refuse to take a local company to flight do you know how much we give to foreign companies? Humm


South Africa should kick the Boer and hang Nelson Mandela

and nigeria has done littel to build up non oil industry

Nigeria gives a lot sa gets alot

why are nigerians so on this. i Mean you guys are worse than mugaby.

CAMNEWTON4PRES: Nigeria needs a better redistribution of her wealth, that's all. GDP means nothing at least physically .

And how do you redistribute that wealth

CAMNEWTON4PRES: The SA dude should wake Nigeria is ahead SA in term of economy and some pockets are ahead SA as whole the problem in this country is the disparity and bad redistribution of the wealth, you will find billionaire, yacht, 5tarts hotels, big mansions etc in a town and will find at the same time the like of Makoko in the same town, in all honesty I think the like of makoko shouldn't exist , I almost puked when I saw makoko for the first Time on youtube...

Nigeria econmy is still smaller, less diversvied than SA. Nothing has changed. To SA you just another african country. I have more respect for botswana.

patriot3: Andrewza, this one is from your president:
"MR. Jacob Zuma, South Africa’s president, has predicted that if Nigeria, which currently has about 20 per cent of the entire African population, could get “everything right,” its economy alone may be bigger than any of Canada, Italy or South Korea by 2050"
http://businessworldng.com/web/articles/1569/1/Nigerias-Economy-to-Overtake-Canadas-by-2050--Jacob-Zuma/Page1.html

Now "every thing right" is the problem.

patriot3: Andrewza, I am running out of patience concerning your morronic comments, this is the description on the video:
"Top 25 Economies in 2050 by GDP PPP

1. India: $85.97 trillion
2. China: $80.02 trillion
3. United States: $39.07 trillion
4. Indonesia: $13.93 trillion
5. Brazil: $11.58 trillion

6. Nigeria: $9.51 trillion
7. Russia: $7.77 trillion
8. Mexico: $6.57 trillion
9. Japan: $6.48 trillion
10. Egypt: $6.02 trillion

Korea/Taiwan/Hong Kong/Singapore (4 Asian Tigers)
Vietnam
Philippines
Bangladesh
Pakistan

Germany
United Kingdom
France
Italy
Spain

Turkey
South Africa
Colombia
Iran
Canada/Australia

Source:
1. Citigroup
http://www.wired.com/beyond_the_beyon...

2. Goldman Sachs (BRIC and N-11)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BRIC
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BRICS
Read the video on youtube, or just use Google to verrify. You have to stop asking and saying s.tupid things.

And you should check the source of your source.

The firs one is a dead link and the other 2 are wikpedia. So all it is, is one mans opion.

agaugust: @andrewza is NOT smart, he's the most F****** white man I ever encountered. He's also the most fraudulent and deceptive. He made me know what a south African whites are very B** indeed, zero integrity.

His reasoning can be very childish and annoying, plus his lies, many lies that can be easily proved wrong...

he never learns he never admits when he is wrong. He never takes correction. If he becomes an officer in south African navy he will waste the lives of his soldiers in battle field and make their wives widows.

He never wants to learn new things and be corrected.

@andrewza you are a serial liar I pity you.


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Fool show me where I lied. Just one occasion show me. Please do try. You are fool and know nothing. You keep asking for sources of things that should be common knowlege to any one in your field. So please don't try you nigerian logic on me.

patriot3:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2iOwO3FcP8

A youtube video upagainst facts. Please try again.

solomon111: Delusions of grandeur.
Go ask your minister of finance about the future of SA economy and weep.

Current growth is lower than our normal due to the euro crisses. They where our biggest market. But we have been pushind inter africa trade and asia trade to compinsate.