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Nigerians have a very bad rep in SA. They seen has Drug dealers and con artists. Wether true or not that is how you seen.

Dibiachukwu: Who is giving Nigeria military aid? Hahahaa. Virtually the whole of the west are constantly attacking us. And you think they will still arm us. I dont know where you people get your info from.

The US provides you with AID and don't hide it. And why would the west attack you. Nigeria is a willing follower.

Dibiachukwu: LOL at south Africa denying us access the sea. Now I see how you people think. You would just up and deny us access to the sea. And we would sit and watch you? No problem, you can also come and take my house whilst you are at it. Look at this big f&&l. What the f.uc.k do you clowns take us for.

Yes and has siad before how will you stop us.

Dibiachukwu: SA was stopped from having nukes immediately the Africans took over government. Nukes are dead easy to make. Lol. You are saying that no Nigerian, or group of Nigerians can build even a missle. Hahahahahah. What a f&&l. Anyway KELE CHUKWU

You don't know history

No one even knew for sure if we had them. We then told the world we had them and dismanteld them

They then told the world and dismanteld them with out being asked.

Yes nigeria can not build a real missiel.

Dibiachukwu: Whether you like it or not, the military and economy of south Africa receives huge amounts of aid from all NATO countries. You may not see it, but I do. Same with most arab countries in Africa. There is a reason for this.

SANDF recieves no milltary aid from out side countries. Unlike Nigeria. We train with them and assest them. Did you know we conduct repaires on britsh ships patroling around the falklands. Get your fact together Nigeria recieves milltary AID not SA.

Dibiachukwu: I never dreamt of the day a south African would call me a sellout. Wow

You would rather have france and europe solve african countries by putting in puppet goverments by force than let a African country deal with it through diplomacy. So yes Nigeria is a sell out.

Dibiachukwu: In every war that the west have successfully fought in Africa. They use an excuse, and get a bunch of ret.a.rded followers. If a foreigner invades Nigeria. The whole of Nigeria would be against them. It is only our division that is their strength. We have learnt how to deal with that.

Really what about egypt suze canal convlict. Isreal, England, France invaded and capterd the canal zone. They only pulled out because of USA and USSR pressure. Then there was the colonizations.

Other than that when has the west invaded a african country.

Really how has africas divsion be solved.

Dibiachukwu: Dude you really think that you can match Nigeria in terms of man power? in a war. Let us leave this issue, until one i.d.iot rears up his ugly head.

Has just shown we can. All so due to much better C4I2R we can better use our milltary. And has been shown in malil you struggel to move and suport your forces.

Dibiachukwu: You people don't know anything about Nigeria. What economy are you going to destroy. The government of Nigeria is not Nigeria. You would be stupid to think that the economy of Nigeria is dependent on oil. The economy of the Nigerian government is dependent on oil. Lol at Egypt,Algeria, SA can attack Nigeria. Hahahahahahah. You mo.r.ons are effing clowns. Egyptian military, Algerian Military and South African Military are dependent on western aid. Nigerian miltary is fully independent. The west can use any of those countries to attack African people. But those people would have to look for another continent to stay in. Again remember this. Any direct attack on any African Country would be suicide.

That oil econmy needs acces to the water. Deney you your off shore platforms, raid costal factlies and inctecpt merchant ships. And there gose your econmy.

Why would any direct attack on a african countrie be sucide.

Dibiachukwu: They have failed because we all know what they are up to now. We are Africans before anything else.
You are one of those that believe all the rubbish propaganda in your media. Let me bring you back to reality, there is no country in this world that doesn't have the expertise to build both nuclear weapons and intercontinental missiles. That is why your USA is all around the world, sniffing everybody's butts. If any people are made to fight another war of survival again, the world would see nukes flying all over the place. You don't know how vulnerable we all are.

They where never hiding. And just look at Africa and you can see how divided we are.

Really you think you just throw money and you get the nuke and ICBM. To date only one countrie has had the bombe and that is SA and we still have the plant where we reshered the bomb and enriched the urniam. So no Nigeria can't just get the bomb. And you don't even build one missiel in you country yet ypu want to build a ICBM. No african country has them. SA stoped its ICBM project after angola was no longer a threat. The northen countries have have SLBMs. Nigeria has nothing close to a stand off wepaone.

Dibiachukwu: About Nigerian weaponry, agaugust has put all of you in your place. Nigeria has both modern and old weapons in abundance. Both locally made and imported. It wouldn't cost us too much to set up and start mass producing weapons, when faced with a foreign invading force. We have the money, technical expertise and resources to do this.All this talk of countries is an European invention to divide us. They only made us stronger. All the things happening in Nigeria is a result of greedy politics. Without politics, we are different people with the same problem, and the same goal. The world has nothing that we really need. South africa may have some expertise, but they lack the man power and resources to fight an extended war.

You talk has if though SA is small. Yes you have the biggest popultion. But you verey divided on tribal lines. SA still has over 50 million people and a masive industrial complex(most industrilized african countrie) to fall back on.

Dibiachukwu: Let me also let the south Africans know that we Nigerians would never go into war with south Africa, unless the pinks raise up their ugly heads again and our south African brothers call us for help. So all this talk about South Africa and Nigeria war is just rubbish. Because we would be the first to call our government to order. But the pinks/arabs/chines cannot use any African country to attack us. They have to come direct. We have proven this point with our treatment of bakassi, where Britain and France wanted to use cameroon to get a stronger foothold in west Africa. We made it clear to them. Let me reiterate to ignoramuses, that only spit out propaganda. There is no country in this world that can invade Nigeria, and talk about it with happiness. Any attack on Nigeria is an attack on African people. And we would destroy all of you. Research the biafran war and watch what the biafrans came up with, even whilst fighting with their ignorant brothers. We have even greater minds now. Any attack on Africa would end the world as we know it. Take my word to the bank. Nukes and intercontinental missles are not new technologies. Do you really think that this is above Nigerian technical expertise The world is getting to a point where everybody must be behave or everybody dies. We all choose!!

what you talking about. West africa is home of the sell outs. Most nations there prais the western world such has there master france. And nigeria is Africa, it is one countrie in Africa and not even while liked.

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Damn, so not only are they not fit to put forth a proper fight, they aren't even fit to feed themselves. Nigeria is an African disgrace. If I were Nigerian, I'd never admit to it.


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You know if they actually asked for help from other nations they could get more done. But they to stuborn.

sheyie2007: I admire your confidence in SAN, but action speaks louder

I am to board to repost the same things. They some where in this thread. Basicaly

We outwited a NATO task force with one sub in war games.
We train with major navel forces from all over the world has equale.
We have the best ships and sytems of any african navy.

Capnd143: well i laud your patriotism! But my freind, in times of war in a country like nigeria, anything and everything is possible! The revenue we make from oil per year, in case of a possible war treat, is enough to fund acquisition of anti-subs and anti-ships armament!

That the point of a blokade. No trade no cash. No cash no way to fight a war. Any case countries never sell to you when if we had to go to war. We have better relashinships with the major arms supllyers. So unless you can build it your self I doubt you will get any thing.

Capnd143: no harm meant, but i wander what is going on in your SA brain, so you honestly think NN will give you a sweet welcome? And the ecowas will jubilate with you, after blocking a main ecowas linked commercial route? Well, i pray that day doesnt come, because surely the south afriques would have tested the wrath of the youths of the most populous black nation . . .

What this mob going to do. March down south. In a straight out naval battel in the high seas no sub shara african navy could beat SAN.

souldust: you think we cannot meet you in the high sea? And you think other countries in the gulf of guinea will not try to push you out too?

Yes that what I am saying. Not saying it it would be a push over but SAN could take on every west coast navy in a high sea battel. In a close in inshore battel NN holds the edge but at the high seas we hold the cars.

souldust: and you think the NN will not use the other beaches to push you away? You really think we are daft in this conutry? Who told you you can reach our shore? You think the FG will allow that?

We don't need to reach the shore. Just stop merchant trafic. And they can only use certain ports.

souldust: @snydergp. You have no capacity to cripple any one's economy. I have talked about this before and pls dont take us back.

By 'cripling our economy' i know you mean a blockade. But a blockade of nigeria's waters isnt possible by the SA navy. Fact!

You think those few ships and subs you have can effectively wount a blockade on 800km of costal line and some NMs int o the sea? We have discussed this before and pls go back to previous pages if you want to see them again.

Has mentioned we don't need to cover the entire coast line. Only a few ports are of any value to the econmy.

@agaugust

Not being rude just poiting it out. What that white lanayard on the second from the back. Seems out of place and would give him a away if he tried to hide. But since it is a photo op pic and not a real operation pic I can't say much on it. Other than it caught my eye.


All so there not much you can say about our 2 diffrent drone programes. SA is a long time drone user with several being used in Anit pouching patrols right now. We have a very mature drone program. Nigeria has a young drone program and are more in the testing phase than full production (each one of your drones is difrent in some way) and we in a difrent level.

Dibiachukwu: Let me educate you ignoramuses. Technology this, technology that. What technology are you talking about? There is nothing we want in Nigeria that Nigerians can't build here. We just don't have any intentions of striking any country. But let me reiterate, that no miltary in this world can invade Nigeria, and tell the story with happiness. To the fella that said Nigeria don't have the capability to launch intercontinental missles, my advice to you is to wake the mess up. The only thing that can weaken Nigeria is an IN-FIGHTING situation. The west, asians and the arabs are sponsoring most of this. THEY HAVE FAILED!!

A few points.


You can not just throw money and get modern wepaons and sytems. It takes time.

You say Nigeria is not intrested in attacking other countries yet you have been involved in a number of wars. So the facts don't match the statment.

Nigeria has no long rang missiel program or any real long range stragic wepaons of any kind.

Have they failed. The internal fighting is not yet over.

Msauza: I think maybe is due to fact that he managed to subside tension that middle east countries had with the US. Many Islamic countries were in a bitter conflict with America during the tenure of George Bush in office and after Obama succeeded him, everything started to change to better.

He did not deserv the win either way.

souldust: @andreza, we are not just reaching a mile stone refining some of our oil here in nigeria. We use to refine all of our local demands here in nigeria untill the four mighty refineries were grounded by those cabals who high-jacked our govt.

The govt has said by the end of next year, all of our local demand will be refined here in nigeria.

Yes I know about them. The fact they all went down for so long is kind of funny. I mean 1 going down even 2 is under standbill but all 4 for so long.

Dibiachukwu: Without foreign intervention. If south Africa can stalemate Nigeria in a war, then CHUKWU is not supreme. Nigerian army size is like 1000 times that of south Africa. And they don't have any weapon that we don't. The war would not last more than 3months. And as for technology. If Nigeria decides to concentrate on its military, within 2 years we would become a major world power. Like I said before, I don't envisage any war between Nigeria and any other African country; because we love them all. It is the western,arab,and chinese military that we have to be weary of. They live by war!!

there are many wepaons we have you dont. for exampil LGBs, subs, a 4.5gen fighter, a integrated dattar link sytem extra extra. has for if nigeria tried to get those things, yes you could but at a high cost because the SANDF is one of the most under funded milltarrys in the world compaired to the countries economy. we only get around 1.8 percent of the budget compaired to the the 2.2 of most peace time milltarys so if we trully wanted to go total war no country in africa could match us.

Dibiachukwu: A war with south Africa is not likely at all. Infact all of west Africa would hardly go to war with any other country in the world. But if any country attacks us. They are going to be toast. We would chew them up and spit them out like chewing gum. And if they start throwing missles, then prepare for amargeddon. Because it would be MAD (MUTUALLY ASSURED DESTRUCTION). Anyi ana chikwanu

MAD only works if both sides can attack each other. Since as a region and nigeria alone has niether the navy or airforce to launch a attack out of it area there is no MAD. SA, Algeria, egypt could all attack west africa or nigeria alone with out fear of any counter attack. These attacks would not destroy but would badly damge if not criple the econmy.

Dibiachukwu: Crap my friend. Any country belongs to those who control the military, and most recently the economy. Both of these are controlled by one race in afrique de sud. Spit that crap only when you are amongst bleks who are easily fooled.

The blanks are in control of both the economy and milltary of south africa.

agaugust: snydergp and msauza, if the two of you combine all your certificates of education and both your brains together, you cannot match a nigerian university graduate and you cannot work where i work, even USA visa you will not get. you envy me, but you cannot reach where i am in the USA. south africa is too low for me, sorry i did not come to work in your country, you have a lower status than the USA where i work and live. lol.

how many black south african university professors of science, experienced economists, high tech engineers, experienced jet fighter pilots with proven air-to air kills, submarine captains with experience etc, are existing today in south africa ? almost none, maybe a few, who are servants to the white man south african experts that still operate your country to maintain it for you so it does not collpase.

you guys dont travel out of south african reagion, visit nigeria and see why your MTN telecom is sitting down there to make money from nigerians who pay their phone bills. your south african companies make more money in nigeria than in south africa. nigeria has developed beyond your imagination, there is a nuclear power facility in abuja, and will soon enrich uranium in a few years, all the nuclear scientists there are nigerians, no white-men. nigeria has two sattelites in space orbit and our engineers are locally building a third sattelite. you guys dont travel far out of south africa.

nigeria has its own telecoms company like GLOBACOM, oil companies like CONOIL drilling, we have gone so far beyond your imagination, you guys dont travel out of your region and see other countries advancement.

nigerian DICON produces almost all our army's rifles, RPG, APC, and soon howitzer artilley. NIgeria built NNS ANDONI warship. Nigerian air force built a drone UAV. we nigerians are all black and have achieved with our black brains. nigeria is the only fully black nation in the world that produces heavy military weapons without white-men engineering it for us. nigerian defence company DICON is not in debt of financial mess like DENEL of south africa .
most south african blacks only drink local beer and smoke cigarette. lazy people like msauza !

you host african nations cup and a hungry weak war shattered Mali beat up south africa silly like a baby. lol you spent your money to host tournament and nigeria carried away the african nations cup under your noses, lazy guys, weak black men , you act like women and thats why a hungry war damaged Mali can beat you on your own homeland soil. big shame, and jacob zuma was there to see you fumble and wobble like ordinary housewives. lol

try and travel to visit other countries in africa, dont sit down in south africa and deceive yourself thinking that other black nations like nigeria are backward and undeveloped, you are too ignorant and local, your knowledge about nigeria is absolutely outdated


you guys are clowns, and msauza your brain is due for total replacement, brain surgery wont even work for you. lol your thinking faculty seems unrepairable.

Nigeria remains the giant of africa, swallow it, bitter truth. We will lead african continent, south africa will learn from nigeria how to be a giant we will teach you little by ilttle. lol

SA has the best learning instutions in africa so please don't lie. Really South african can not get visas for amrica or europe. That strange then how come so many South African are working over seas.

Of those we have a lot. By the way when was the last time a nigerian jet flew in a dog fight.
The claim that there are no qulfied Blacks in SA is factually wrong on so many levels.

Yes of course they make more money it is a larger market. And cliaming we don't pay our cell phone bills is strange. All most all the people I know have got pre paid or contract phones with pre paid top up. Making it impossbil to not pay your phone bill. SA has 3 nuclear plants including a commcial power plant. And guese what they run by south africans white' black, coulard and indian. To us we all south africans first.

Yet SASOL is a bigger provider of refinded oil than any african fue company. And we don't even have crude in our countrie to drill. You only just reach the mile stones we have long time passed.


DICON is a full state suported instute like south africas armscore where denel is a privatly owened deffense country that the goverment has shares in and considers a stragic resourse same has BAE OMC land sytemt, PARMOUNT, IMT extra extra extra. Denel is a only a section of our deffense idustry that mainly foucuses on Airo defense. Both OMC Land sytems and paramount made a nice profit from the wars in iraq and afghanstan. All so DIXON has a verey small RnD budget and foucuses more on the manufactor under liscenses that building brand new sytems.

We where not the chosen host but where asked to host after Libay could not due to securty issues. I wonder why they never asked the giant of africa to host it. And any cast Bafana Bafana is a weak team we not sad or suprised they never won. The games we good in is Rugby and cricket and getting more medals than you in the olmpics.

Where did we say you where backwards or underdevloped (witch many african countries are). I called cammroon a backwater not backwards if you try to pull that. What we did say is that South Africa is the most advanced and Devloped country in africa witch is diffrent.

Nigeria has yet to lead west africa out of it's cycle of vilonce and dependence on france whom they worship, yet you think they can lead africa. SA is along with Angola and Tazninia the force of peace in Southern Africa. Notice how there are no wars down here. Only zimbabwe is a problem but even tey not in a civil war.

Nigerians all ways talk about the wars they where in yet ignore what south africa has done. All your foes where rebels where south africa fought cubans, the angloans(and not the rebels the angolans had a proper milltary force) and the warsaw pact and we fought them to a stand still.

How peace keeping missions are/where

Lestho complet succes
Burrindie complet succes
DRC ongoing
Sudan ongoing

We where all so in a number of smaller un missions like congo

Then there is CAR with dose not fall under ant international mandat and anti piracy ops.

Why is it that every body els cares more about the whites in SA than actual south africans.

agaugust: check facts well on internet before you post comment, the mali issue is free information the whole world can read on internet. you made some errors and i will correct them.

1) france is colonial master to mali and as usual, france has troops in almost all its west african colony as permanent military garisson for french interests..

2) it is wrong diplomacy for nigeria to send soldiers into mali without agreement with france which puts its soldiers there long long agao, even before mali crisis.

3) nigeria acts wisely, we dont make the type of mistake south africa made by sending warship to ivory coast without agreement with france, nigeria, and UN, these 3 have troops already in ivory coast. thats why south african navy was told to go away, your country did not use correct diplomacy thats why even the UN did not support your stay in ivory coast, you had bad diplomacy in your method of deployment

4) mali had democracy overthrown by military coup and ecowas knew that the coup was with good reason but did not want democracy to be destroyed. it will be stupid for nigeria to send in soldiers at that time because it will look like an invasion when the ruling military coup plotters refused to allow any ecowas country's soldiers to enter mali. nigeria wanted to solve the problem, and not to add to the problem. wisdom comes with age.

5) nigeria with ecowas agreed with UN to deploy in september becasue france was already there with soldiers and there was no more fighting between government troops and rebels islamists.

6) the sudden attack from the rebels made france to counter-attack and stop their rebel advance. nigeria also responded very fast to that attack in 48 hours we landed over 1,000 soldiers, armoured fighting vehicles, jet fighters, helicopter gunships and military transport planes. that is a good logistic capability by international standards.

we africans have a problem, when a white man does something small we call it big, but when a black man does something big we call it small.

7) the France you are singing their praise, had to ask Britain for help with military transport planes and they got it. Canada and USA also sent military transport planes and 4x4 military vehicles and millions of dollars to help France. nobody in the world helped nigeria, we did all the heavy equipment and battalion troops deployment all by ourselves and with our oil money.

9) France is already announcing that its troops will not stay long in mali, listen to BBC news. the france wants to run away before the mali rebels change to deadly guerrilla warfare that kills even the best army infantry in the world like Russian army died in thousands by the guns of islamic mujahedeen guerrilla rebels of afghanistan war in the 1980s. nigeria says it will stay in mali and fight the war for as long as we are needed there. respect nigeria when it is time for war, no retreat no surrender from africa's number one infantry forces.


so you say nigeria did not do well ? think twice before you post comment. the whole world respects nigeria when it comes to military operations all over africa in the most dangerous war zones, so never compare nigeria to south african in this area, we are far superior to you in track record of many past achievements and the whole world respects nigeria for that. we spent $10 billion of nigerian oil money on liberian and sierra leone wars alone, plus over 1,000 nigerian soldiers died in the thick jungle forest of those countries. [/b]

nigeria started sending soldiers to fight all over africa in 1960 just few months after our independence nigerian army landed in congo kinshasa to fight in the civil war and we had no airforce at that time, we asked other countries to airlift our army to congo and nigerian ex- president obasanjo did fight as an army officer in that war of congo. nigeria is the big brother and giant of africa. over 100,000 nigerian army troops have served and rotated in opreations for peace all over africa since 1960. check out some of our many military action list...

liberia
sierra leone
somalia
sudan dafur
ivory coast
mali

all the wars nigeria enters are big news because they are big wars. south africa selects small wars to deploy, thats why you went to central african republic, if you have the military power, enter congo DRC and damn everybody, then flush out the invaders there and stop crisis. south africa was wide awake with open eyes when rwanda genocide killed 800,000 africans very close to your borders, you did nothing to stop it, you were busy making excuses for not stopping the blood shed of your fellow africans in rwanda, 800,000 black people died while south africa was claiming to be the strongest military power in africa ? no never ! a living dog is better than a dead lion ! dont ask me which country is the living dog and which country is the dead lion, let africa's history answer the question.

1)so mali is only a collony now. France had to bring in a large amount of troops, since they only had a few hundred there.


2) So now you need the permssion of some european counry to do any thing. Funny how we never asked france if we can send solders to the central african republic. we just sent them. and you had the green light to deploy since last year long before the rebel push south. The only resoan france acted was because you where unable to help in any way.

3) How was it unwise, you for some strange resoane though that letting a forghnier from europe be where in charge of you is a good idea. We dont need to ask some country far away to move around in africa and the simply fact is, we proved we can do it. we put a ship on staion of a county thousand of killmoters from us for months.


4) The coup ended long before the rebel push to the south.


5) Those where agreements made some time ago. Has soon has the rebels began there push south it should have been changed. I mean you got a paratroopers. They suposed to be deploybil any where any time. So why did it take so long for the first nigerians to arrive.



6)So if you deployed in your words over 1000 AFV why did you not rush to the front then. Do you have any idea how many 1000AFV is. That enough to destroy the rebels. That is more than France has deployed. I thing what you where trying to say is you deployed 1000 solders with AFV. But even so why did the sit back then and not join the fight.


7) Never heard of NATO. France never asked for help it's NATO allies offerd help. You all so fail to point out that the first and largest group to arrive did not need any of that help.

France dose not want a afghanstan and that is smart. They only enterd to stablize the area. Somthing local forces where unable to do.

We only enter small wars? We got 1280 solders in Eastern DRC around 800 in dafure Sudan(since the south got independs we no longer needed there) we deployed solders to CAR only after the rebels begain the push to south. There are all so plans to deplye the SADC stand by brigade to deploy to DRC. They will not have a peac keeper mission by instead a mission to destryo the M23 and any other rebel groups in the area. There still some problems to iron out concerning the UN. Aka we don't want them to ruin it.



Rwanda genoicided hapended before the ellctions. We where in a verey dangourise time then. And Rwanda is not close to our borders. Far from it. How ever you did forget we stoped the civil war in burindie.

agaugust:
thank you Thiza my brother for publicly admitting that nigeria is the giant of africa indeed, you are very correct with that statement. so true nigeria is african giant with clay feet, but the big problem is that south africa has no feet at all. lol.

What we have no feet. We stand up strong and take our issues to the world. Nigeria is happy to sit there and let forghin countries dicted the region. The fact that niger has a drone base is not a big deal. The fact Nigeria has nothing to say about it is a sighn of weakness. When Mali was in troubel you moved so slow france had to step in. Where south africa was able to get its under funded (and yes we are under funded) milltary thousand of killomoters to centrail african republic in only a few days. Hell chad responded faster than you in nigeria. You country wants to be a big player but dose nothing about it. South africa wants to be a big player and so we moved to become one. You may be the giant of africa but we are the shining light that leads it.

agaugust: hey guys, may i suggest a new topic for next month : which country in africa has the highest number of HIV infections and criminal r.ape cases combined ?

At least we know our statsics. Nigeria is rated among the worst for revaling infomation. Even so we know you have a high crime rate.

Liberal2020: What are you trying to prove by posting this link? That Iran is lying? Have you heard of mainstream media and the world order that controls it...includes YAHOO,GOOGLE, CNN, NBC, ABC, CBS, ALJEEZERA, HOTMAIL/MSN, E.T.C. If you haven't, then you need help and a little more time understanding how this world works and people who control it. They intentionally make such false publication to hoodwink people like you; making you think that Iran is lying. That's part of the psychological war being waged. If you read the report in the link, its basically some western based weapon/military experts making these allegations.

I was saying iran was lying long before this post. Iran has a habit of doing this. And the points made in the post are valided. If not point out where the post was wrong.