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Blyss: SA equipment is significantly better than that of Nigeria, I cant speak on the training though.. since I really don't know much about the current SA military's effectiveness in battle.

In terms of tank vs tank battel SA has the most experance and trains for it.

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nigerian scout car

it is a Panhard Sagaie 90mm gun-armed AFV

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SA scout car

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south african armor

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nigerian armor

Blyss: What kind of tanks does Nigeria have in their inventory? I can honestly say that I've never seen a Nigerian tank before?

dont know the numbers but they operat T55s T72s AMX30 and vickers has far has i know. Nothing really good but the T72 are the best in the region. though iwonder what is better a T72 or a vickers the AMX 30 is only from wikipedia so dont know how true.

Blyss: Yes, they do not have night vision brackets on their helmets, thus meaning they are not given night vision goggles. They're carrying crappy Ak's, no side arm, and that's just for starters.

depending on the uniform you may not see a side arm. NV gear is not all ways part of a helmet set up.

Henry120: How can they be short on ammo. When the 7.62 round is made in nigeria. The guys carry extra rounds, the last guy is SSS. They are never short on ammo.

i mean ammo on person. Has in how many mags do they have on them. It is just a observation. Though they may have them.

no and yes. The wepoans i dont care about(has in i dont care) but they look like they short on ammo. And the last one is not a army solder.

i would like to add to the point that SA has not sold any wepaons to other countries. This is wrong.

The G5 and G6 have been sold to many arab countries
The ratal was sold to Jordon and some where in libya used by the rebels.
MRAPs all MRAPs wether built by SA or not use SA tech and we get money thanks to liecening it.
MGL the 6 shot is used by a feew countries The yanks are a big buyer.
umkonto Navel SAM is used in finland and sweeded. Algeria may buy it to.
A darter is joint developed with brazil.
NTW 20 are in indian servis.
Germain subs use some of our techs.
Euro fighter uses a South African HUD
extra extra

Actualy the AK47 was never liscened meaning any body can make a copy and just call it somthing els. Hence Kalshnicov is still only living on a army pension and is not trioloner. The new once are liscened. The typ 56 is the chines option. Russia dose not use it they got the AK100s

CAMEROONPRIDE: Its Cameroon dumb ass

Check the spelling you used and you will see you spelled it wrong.

CAMEROONPRIDE: Its Caneroon dumbass how dare you scum bag, bastard fucking slave in your own land, you are a shame for every Bantu , tufiakwa I spit on you.

Actual it is cameroon.

Realy. You got short term memory.

agaugust: STRONGEST TEN MILITARY POWERS/COUNTRIES IN AFRICA :

don't be surprised,this is the correct rankings from worldwide military analysts in europe and north america

1. EGYPT
(too powerful,too strong,too well trained,too well equipped,too experienced to be challenged by any other african country. the world fear egypt's power)

2. ALGERIA
(it will shock any country that tries to fight algeria, very well equipped modern army and airforce,yet people don't know. algeria is a silent big power)

3. NIGERIA AND SOUTH AFRICA SAME POSITION

(nigerian army is stronger,but south african airforce is stronger, while nigerian navy is bigger in size but south african navy has more modern ships. so a balance of power. the world respects nigerian artillery and infantry. the world respects south african airforce as they have been flying combat missions since world war II in 1940. south african military is known to avoid real heavy combat since it almost lost the bush war with cuba in 1988)

4. ETHIOPIA, ANGOLA, AND SUDAN SAME POSITION

(ethiopia has a battle hardened army,combat experience nation against nation,its airforce flew warplanes against italy over 70 years ago! respect ethiopia. angola and sudan have latest jet-fighters and massive tanks/artillery firepower with many years of real combat experience in big civil wars)

5. MOROCCO, ERITREA, UGANDA SAME POSITION
(morocco has good jet-fighters,but its soldiers are not first-class on land and air combat. eritrea is a small nation with powerful airforce and army having many years of serious battlefield experience. uganda has a modernized airforce with good jetfighters and a moderately experienced army with good commanders)

if you have any doubts about the above information, check these countries army, navy, and air force on wikipedia, army recognition website, and their countries official military website to compare.

Why you necro this old thread. My respons has not changed.

Egypt(due to amrican aid)
SA/algeria SA is small modern and well trained. Our navy is smaller than nigeria but is a prper blue water force. Algera is has you say)

Nigeria is has you say.

agaugust: agaugust:

IT IS NOW VERY CLEAR THAT NIGERIA AS THE GIANT OF AFRICA IS HATED BY SOME OTHER AFRICANS WHO ENVY THE BIGGEST BLACK NATION ON EARTH....NIGERIA. IT IS A TRUE SAYING THAT GREATNESS WILL MAKE PEOPLE TO BECOME YOUR ENEMY. CAN EVERYBODY READ THE REACTION OF SOME OTHER AFRICANS TO THE POST I MACE ABOUT NIGERIAN INFANTRY HEROES OF AFRICA ? HATRED WITHOUT A REASON, HATRED AND ENVY AGAINST NIGERIA BY ITS OWN AFRICAN 'BROTHERS' WHOM SHE FOUGHT HARD TO FREE FROM WHITE MAN'S MODERN DAY SLAVERY AND BONDAGE OF OPPRESSION. BLACK MAN, BLACK HEART, WICKED HEART, EVIL HEART.

look here snydergp, i am sure you are not as educated and intelligent as past and present nigerian army chiefs of staff like general dambazau who has a PhD degree, or UN/ECOWAS/AU respected general agwayi who has a masters degree, or current army chief general ihejirika who is a chartered quantity surveyor, those generals have been trained in the best and most expensive military officers academy in USA, BRITAIN, GERMANY, INDIA, ISRAEL, ETC. they chose AK-47 because the general world consensus is that AK-47 is the most reliable comabt rifle for continuous firing in many hours of combat without jamming and for use in dusty and harsh terrain without requiring regular maintenance under battle field pressure.

nigeria today has $50 billion cash reserve in foreign banks, so if we want to but 1 million american M-16 rifles for our army we have the money.

we use what we want after many years of testing other assault rifles that we imported from europe into our armoury since year 1960 to 2012. no rife is perfect, all guns have advantages and disadvantages.

russia is the second most powerful military in the world and they still use AK-47 as standard military rifle. china is third ranked military power in the world and it still uses rifle developed from AK-47 and same does india which is the fourth most powerful military in the world.

nigerian made AK-47 is not the same as the original old type, it has been improved for more combat effectiveness. nigeria is not interested in south african made weapons because most of them have not been used by many countries in real war engagements and so their track record is not yet known, and the south africa that manufactures them does not engage in deadly combat since the bush war ended in 1988, the SANDF have been sitting down making hollywood movie style photos and videos to 'show' military 'capabilities' while they avoid the deadliest and bloodiest combat zones in africa.

hate nigeria or love nigeria, you cannot change it's greatness that God has blessed nigeria with.

Why should we enevy you. You have nothing we want. If we had you oi we would be a global power. Your corrupt nation on the brink of collaps is nothing to enevy.


You see that is the point. Most countries useing the AK 47 are to poor to replace it. Nigeria has the money. But only buy fancy gear for the SF. Same for the F7. You could probaly have goten second hand F16 for the same price. There is so much Nigeria could do but they don't.

Russia got rid of the 47 model(actual sooner with the AKM but most 47 are actualy AKM's) in 74 and now use the AK 100 seriers(101 I beilfe is the basic model).

CAMEROONPRIDE: baba GOD what kind of paradise is not perfect? shei SA go kill una
so your educational system is not good? well i don't know and don't bother about SA ,as a foreigner your country is a no no. like you said earlier Sa aint perfect so is Nigeria or Cameroon , try to b humble next time you will realize that no one envy you , stop trying to shove in people's throat your supremacist ideas. Don't throw stones when your house is made of glass.
last but not the least SA sure have a good and well equipped/trained army but the value of an army is on the ground.
i rest my case for today if i catch you insulting someone again you go see .why even Africans call you savages . Have a good night

When did we call SA a parrdis. It a hell of a lot better than the rest of africa but we still got a lot to do.

The eduction sytem is not equal. Some schools and entire provences perform better than others. So depending on where you born depends on how good your public school will be. But we know that there is a problem and are working to fix it.

Why should I be humbel. We the best I know we the best. The millions of ileagals rushing to enter our country is proof we the best. Our wealth is proof we the best. Our streangth is proof. We are a member of G20 and BRICS. We thinking gloabal while the rest of Africa strugel for complet control of there own country. So please why should I be humbel in front of some one from Camaroon. Some back water african country that has achieved nothing.

CAMEROONPRIDE: ^^^^ naaa the answer was SA are animals , uncivilized people , wild animals which escaped from the zoo ...you guys need to go back where you rightly belong (follow the arrow)-----------> THE JUNGLE there is no zoo which can contain such wild animals.
Humanity is a mindset it is not about free education(my foot yeahh) ,free healthcare etc and all those fantasies that the average SA can't even afford , i promised here to not show how poor a big part of your population is , because i know they didn't choose it , don't make me break that oath.

By free health care we do not mean every thing is free. But basic health care at state medical facalties is free if you can not afford it. Eductaion is free for those who can not afford it. Though the sytem is not perfect and there are those who slip through the crakes and of course free dose not mean good it is the best program of it's kind in Africa.


PS there are no real jungels in SA. We have bush veld.

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Msauza: You are such a big headed fool who is still stuck to the past. AK 47/74/AKM are dinosaurs kind of assault riffles and are no match to R4 and R5. There are no any modern armies in first world countries that still use such nonsense. Such antique rubbish are still being used predominantly by poor armies in Africa and many rebel groups. AK47 or so to say Russian made, has many weaknesses, being;
1. It encounters many stoppages in operation.
2.At night it exposes you easily to the enemy because of its flesh and sound.
3. Does not have many accessories that can be mounted on it.
4. Does not have a wire cutter
5. You cannot use it underwater
6. Does not have a flesh hider on the tip of its barrel to be used safely at night without being identified.
7. Its not accurate.
R4 and R5 have all the above mentioned advantages, that's why they're referred to as the modern assault rifles that suit all the requirements to be used by first world countries.

Just a point of correction. The R5 does not come with the wirie cutters. But since only Navy and a few other speciolizsed personal use it there is no resaone. And the standed R rifel is not water proof. And there are water proof ak's for speciol forces use(when operating in certain areas some times the best wepaon to use is not the best wepaon) personally I precer the m16. That thing is so light and has so low a recoil. It dose need more cleaning but no more than what we currently do.

Still waiting on the. Vidoe of a SANDF member abusing a south african citzen or any citzen for that matter. And please don't try to claim you more peace full. The fact we have a free press allows us to have these vediose taken and guilty partys get treid. Unlike the poliece stat called camaroon.

CAMEROONPRIDE: duh in SA , i'm talking about Cameroon our gendarmes have nothing to do with the soldiers none of them were/are in Bakassi you can lie and tell what you want about SA army or gendarmes i won't bother checking . I trust you

just gave the meaning of the word.

CAMEROONPRIDE: the one you posted is a gendarme not a soldier/military feel free to check the difference
we have
Policemen
gendarmes
soldiers/military
thanks

gendarmes
"a soldier who is employed on police duties"
aka A MP in south africa and protection force at milltary bases

CAMEROONPRIDE: so a criminal is not a civilian? sheiii make i hear . waka pass jor

I said go find one where a solder touches a civlian. That was a cop.

CAMEROONPRIDE:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=botEmqHMHu4

that was unrespnsve crimnal refuse to comply. He got what he deserd. And that is a cop not a solder. Try find one where a solder from SA even touches a civlian

CAMEROONPRIDE: ^^go find another video about Cameroon which is near that kind of violence , i know you wanted to engage why i don't know

that was the only video i could find. i mean nigeria gets this with out much of a search

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6hzveOq5Yo

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CAMEROONPRIDE: this will never end
i'm laughing in Ewondo
i think we should change the title

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfgZs4qmGd4

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