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agaugust:
Even Cameroons navy crosses atlantic, crossing ocean is NOT 24 hour patrolling international waters, South African navy has no OPV fleet for 24 hours round the clock patrolling of international waters, 3 of your 4 Valour frigates engines has already broken down, your navy has no maritime security capability long range !

Davit system ? What da fvck ! Nigeria has hundreds of those Davit system kinda tiny rubber or fibre glass boats, yet we bought many Shaldag ocean interceptors because those rubber dinghy boats are mere toys when blue water action starts.

Those your Valour frigates useless Davit sytem launch only tiny toy rubber inflatable dingy or fibre boats that cannot carry cannon/main gun, cannot carry radar, cannot carry night vision ocean imagers, cannot survive alone in high sea because a windy wave will overflow it with water and sink it killing all your sailors, cannot climb into a pirate ship that is the size of an oil tanker, cannot fight pirates that have rifles aboard a big ship, it can even be overran by a small fishing trawler made of steel and all your sailors will sink and drown to death, it cannot carry fuel for more than few hours before it's tiny out-board motor tank runs dry and your sailors stranded in high sea where shark will eventually eat up all those South African navy men including @Andrewza....

South African navy is a wishy washy piece of joke, reason why you are now realizing your weakness and desperate to buy a big stealth OPV and MPV like Nigeria, but South Africa has no money, except you auction some of your bank loan purchased useless submarines tomorrow !
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PHOTO : NIGERIAN NAVY BOATS BESIDE THEIR MASTER THE SHALDAG OCEAN HIGH SPEED INTERCEPTOR

lezz:
hey, clerk boy!!!

Digest this......... That's not all.

The other submarine was rendered useless after they plugged in the AC into the DC: Maybe the naval technician who inserted the AC plug into SAS Manthatisi's DC socket, thereby blowing the R1.6 billion submarine's fuses, was absent-mindedly thinking about sex at the time, or about politics, or about music. http://www.iol.co.za/blogs/john-scott-1.2499/ac-dc-is-enough-to-make-anyone-blow-his-submarine-fuses-1.1001701#.VIWLDtKUfX8

Here's the story about the submarine being used as an ocean driller by another IQ 67 as a

The SAS Queen Modjadji, named after South Africa's rain queen who lived in Limpopo, struck the ocean floor while conducting training exercises between Port Elizabeth and Durban last week.

http://www.timeslive.co.za/local/2012/08/12/not-one-of-the-r8-billion-arms-deal-submarines-is-operational

The third high-tech submarine has been in dry-dock for years after "mishaps".

So, of the 3 submarines costing SA R8 BILLION, none are operational.

Welcome to the new SA!

lezz:
a southafrican can't tell truth to save his life on this forum.
I'll let your claims pass.
SANDF is in short of fighting personnel and equipment.
Southafrica died when Mandela came out of prison.
What we have is a naive and inexperienced tswana, Bantu and Zulu nation struggling to grasp the task of governing a nation.

Henry120:
You can as well call it the Olifant Leopard2A Abrams T-90 Tank.

Fact is, it is still a museum piece. A world war 2 Relic.

agaugust:
Nigerian navy uses that long range to patrol up to Angola. No African navy from Cape Town to Cairo can match Nigeria's sea patrol range, we just beat everybody hands down !
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EVarn:
the same way an SUV fitted with attilery guns and rocket launchers is likely to give your oliphants a run for its money,why did i say that?; because though the oliphant can demolish the SUV from almost 2km away,the SUV is faster and more mobile than the powerful oliphant can ever hope to be.
does it mean that a common SUV is superior to the oliphant?; No,but the SUV has mobility advantage,it would be very difficult to target an SUV at full speed.

Henry120:
Everything!

SergeAlain:
Interesting picture.

Worthy of note is the soldier in the background. He appears to be carrying an FN rifle. This rifle had been phased out and replaced by the AK 47 on account of its unwieldy length for jungle fighting and its uncontrollable automatic fire compared with the AK (this draw back came to light in Liberia/Sierra leone, where the AK47's shorter range did not really matter on account of the close range nature of jungle warfare). Today in the North East, the short range of the AK has become a challenge and the FN with its range of up to 600m(compared with 300m for the AK) has become a life saver.

Good creative thinking.

Patchesagain:
Yes we know what they are Henry120

But how are they better?

What is the point of an ultra long range vessel if your operations are only in the gulf of guinea?

Also, not a single one of the 4 is an actual warship

Henry120:
The BTR-4E is by far the best IFV in service in SSA. This is a statistical fact.

T-72AV's, T-72CZM1/2's, T-72b


The Federal government through it's relief agencies caters extensively for IDP's.

What a stup1d question............. they return back to building Africa's first Trillion dollars economy. we are currently at 526 billion dollars, still a significant proportion to go.

overhypedsteve:
Love that bird. we operate em in the navy, this is the first time i am seeing it on camo. love it. heard ur airforce grounded dem last year?

agaugust:
There are wars across lakes too wide to bridge. In full rainy season and at it's peak, no bridge can span lake Chad, means Nigerian army cannot cross into Chad except by pontoons, like rafts ferrying armour across a huge lake....the enemy on the other side will be picking you off one by one like sitting ducks.

IFV were built amphibious for a good reason, the white man is not a fool like you who thinks it's no good because you have NONE
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agaugust:
Cameroon does not challenge Super powers, e.g Nigeria did in campaign against apartheid to free you and your family...say thank you

agaugust:
Show us statistical proof of how many pirates have got ransom paid to them among all piracy attacks in the last 5 years worldwide
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Henry120:
You don't, but your 12 mothballed Gripens are filling the pinch, the inability for the SAAF to purchase aviation fuel, your sub which spent 7 years at the docks are enough proof.

Henry120:
You are broke. Your SANDF is getting nothing.

agaugust:
Most assault rifles effective range is 300m to 600m.

What is the range of SANDF R-4 rifle ? 1,000m ?

Fool...Fraud !
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agaugust:
At the beginning of this forum in 2010 to 2012, you Southies said all Nigerian weapons are old and not modern even when they have been upgraded, because SANDF purchased theirs in 2005 to 2010. Now you change story

agaugust:
How did Oliphant tank transform from RHA to Composite armour?

Tanks armour gets upgraded from RHA to ERA and composite....fool
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agaugust:
Citation needed
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agaugust:
Bagder is NOT amphibious....ask your SANDF navy man @andrewza, it will sink to bottom of lake Chad, watching BTR-4 swim across
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agaugust:
You too prove the BTR-4 is not very modern as you claim.

SANDF has NO single Badger in service, you have DENEL test lab models.

By 2020 you will have nothing, no money, I just posted that above, cash problem delayed Badger for 18 years
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agaugust:
Badger project started in 1997....actually 18 years ago....

"May 26/13: Investigation? South Africa’s Times Live, “Military deal probe ‘waste of time'”:

“The public protector is believed to be investigating the 16-year delay in the project. Hoefyster was launched in 1997 locally and opened to international tenders in 2003. The vehicles are to arrive from next year, the last in 2023.”

The contract was issued in 2007. Defence Secretary Sam Gulube responds that he’s worried about the budget being insufficient."

http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/denel-patria-building-south-africas-next-ifv-03317/

Your maths is too poor for South Koreans to employ you in Hyundai tech
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agaugust:
World record includes 1,250m kill.....1,000m is close, with a weaker rifle !

agaugust:
Snipers do miss target. They are not 100% perfect human beings.

MikeCZAR:
The props were replaced with cabins which can used to carry chain saws, shovels, water, fuel etc

patches689:
if the need arises armor can be removed and props fitted.

Note that they left the prow plate on the front of the vehicle (it pushes up a wave that keeps the nose of the vehical from diving under the water in choppy conditions)

saengine:
Badger CAN swim. Option for amphibious crossing is on the vehicle. Nothing major to change. Since SANDF has no major requirement for amphibious crossing (no big lakes in SA) it is not a major design point.


https://www.sa-transport.co.za/military/army/badger_icv_11d2008_07_dvdb08.JPG

agaugust:
Citation needed.

Everything South Africa does not buy, is not modern. Badger IFV is a 15 years old design still on table and obsolete by 2020 when it enters service after almost 20 years delay, that one you will say it is modern. Mumu
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agaugust:
Iraq rejected them for body welding defects, not internal systems or weapons. Ukraine fixed the welding issue and purchased them.

47 units in all, number sold to Nigeria not known, so you need to prove it's a tiny number out of the 47....it could be 4, it could be 40, nobody knows. Stick to what you know mister
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agaugust:
No source lists number of Nigerian BTR-4

Badger IFV is garbage and you have only 2 test units, none in service until year 2020
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Henry120:
This is the reason many Nigerian military enthusiasts are celebrating the kill. It is an amazing shot using that rifle. It shows how skilled that Sub.LT who took the shot is.

I say, give that man an AMR, and he'll record an over 2000m shot. I'm sure of this.