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Henry120:
The Brooke class frigates of the United states Navy are?

They might be un-common is some quarters, but Navy's across the world still use them in adequate numbers.

There last frigate class was the Perry. Now they use LCS has frigates. Yeah they crayon.

Nevers Saïd navires dont use them. Just they odd choice for a war ship.

Henry120:
No, this is not correct.

The reason why this kill is such a big deal is because the shooter scored a kill at 1000m with an SVDK which has an effective range of 600m. This is why this kill is very impressive.

If that Sub.Lt had an AMR, kills above 2000m. Would be a piece of cake for him.

I never said it was not a good shot. Just not a world record sniper shot.

If you said it was a record setting shot for a SVD It would be accurate. Probably not the only one to pull it off but you would be telling the truth.


Shooting out to 1000m and to 2000m are to difrent ball games.

Henry120:
Why anyone would ditch a life craft because of it's colour is baffling to me. The Americans also use bright yellow life crafts on some of their frigates.

See the movie, captain philips (tom hanks), the frigate used in that movie had a bright yellow life craft, same size as this.


Really, the people who would be rescued using this, won't care what colour it is, as long as they are saved.

America does not have any frigates.

Those life rafts are normally used on cargo or support ships. The are a odd choice for a war ship.

overhypedsteve:
exactly his point. Pirates do not risk their lives to steal fishes and sea shells. That's why despite the heightened security situation pirates from all over have always risked our gulf cus they know the about the wealth there. Other oil channel like the Persian gulf, Suez canal and gulf of Oman are secured by multi national task forces whose capacity complements each other. But in the case of the west African gulf, Nigeria have the highest investment and interests she have the biggest navy and despite the exchange of information and intelligence between west African navies, the nigerian Navy still have to work more to ensure that the billion dollar worth of investment around her sphere of interest are secured.

Educate your self.

http://m.arabianbusiness.com/africa-s-top-10-ports-50442.html

EVarn:
exactly!,only a good sniper can hit a man at 1000m,1.5km,or 2000m away.

No any sniper can hit a target at 1000m. It is not some mighty obstical.

saengine:
https://www.janes.com/images/assets/336/43336/Badger-nears-production.jpg

Anti Tank variant of Badger IFV....not too many pictures of this around.

In total...
Badger Infantry vehicle
Badger Anti Tank
Badger Motar
Badger Command and Control

There is all so the for support verstion.

charlos14:
Speculations without evidence!

Evdiance and citastions have been posted all of the thread

EVarn:
why are you crying bitterly?,why are you gnashing your rotten teeth like a deranged lunatic?.you think that hitting a human target from 1000m away is an everyday occurence?,its a world record that we witness only from the likes of canadian special forces,US Navy SEALS,and russian special ops.

If you can't hit a man at 1000m you not a sniper.

charlos14:
Oh God, I thought that we were done arguing about what you wish you have> Keep dreaming about the Badger while the Btr 4E s are doing their job.

The badger is not a dream. In fact there are has many bashers in SA has BTR4 is Nigeria. You do know your BTR4 are from a batch Iraq rejected due to it not being up to standard. Most of the 47 where taken by the Ukraine army. You have a tiny number of Iraq rejects.

agaugust:
Can you ask SAAF to use Gripen jet to carry out SEAD on your own people if terrorists invade Soweto township? You know how many people will die in a high calibre SEAD campaign when innocent civilians become human shield victims of terrorists, I think you don't know the difference between fighting war inside your own house and fighting in a foreign land. USA and NATO are happy to so air campaign SEAD on Iraq and killed thousands of civilians, if the enemy is inside New York city, will they launch the same massive air strike on the heads of their own fellow Americans?

It is easy to use other countries territory for military weapon testing and shooting practice experiment, America was using aircraft fired depleted radioactive uranium cannon shells on Iraq, can they use it on an enemy inside American territory?
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Do you even no what SEAD is. I mean it not carpet bombing.

agaugust:
In your absence from forum, we have fully compared BTR-4 with NATO's Patria and SANDF Badger, the technical specs all round makes BTR-4 better than anything SANDF can hope to buy as IFV.

Numbers of BTR-4 in NA are classified, secret.

Nigeria has many IFVs, nobody knows the full arsenal of Nigerian military.

We have BTR-3 IFV, BTR-4 IFV, BVP M80 IFV.

Reputable sources say that next week more BVP IFV will arrive Nigeria from Czech republic by air in about 3 days time.

Nobody knows all Nigerian weapons, secret secret, only this week did we know Nigeria has missile armed drones....secret !
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There is nothing modern about it. They just changed the lay out of the old BTRs. She is no more modern than the iklwa. Compared to the badger she is just a target.

EVarn:
the jet was on a surveillance mission,not combat.he was flying an alpha jet.

That explains the wingman. But why was he low enough to be shot down then.

EVarn:
if we use helicopter,it would be shot down immediately,wasnt it boko haram that shot down the jet{which flies at over 1000MPH} in the first place?,what is then stopping them from also blowing up a low altitude helicopter?.
yes,BH is armed with both wheeled and motorized artillery,they possibly own SAMs and other "high end weapons".
america made much jambourine about the crashed malaysian airline,and also promised to 'aid' malaysia in recovering the remains of the plane.yet they havent deployed Navy SEALS into ukraine to retrieve the plane.

It called SEAD. Recovery of personal from hostile with enemy anti air arround by helicopter is very common.


Why rush in with seals when diplomacy has not failed.

EVarn:
sadly,the pilot was beheaded before our military vanguard had any chance to react.

Where was his wing man. Was there no SAR chopper and rapid response team.


SAAF tended to recover the survivors of downed aircraft. And the full aircraft on occastion.

rka1:
I suppose you failed to read the part where it said they were looking for the pilots.

They all so knew they where shot down. They knew where to. They tried to cover this up.

saengine:
Its not about the jet fool. Its about the pilot. Or Nigeria doesnt mind letting its pilots rot in the wreckage or even attempt to rescue them while they're alive.

They tried to cover up the loss. So I would say they don't care.

EVarn:
so you want our troops to enter into a terrorist occupied territory simply to retrieve a crashed jet.even the US cant just waltz majestically into rebel-controlled eastern ukraine simply to retrieve the crashed malaysian plane.

Are you saying BH is armetd with tanks, arty, long range SAM and other high end wepeons like the rebels in Ukraine who are backed by Russia?



You have helicopters.

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Why would America recover a crashed airlin that was not there's.

agaugust:
There is no wealth and riches inside your poverty stricken oceans to attract sea pirates, thieves don't go to where there is nothing valuable to steal. Transfer Angola's oil and gas wealth to South African ocean and swarms of pirates will relocate to your backyard.....then you get screwed, your navy has no Stealth OPV, Stealth MPV, Stealth IPV, High Speed sea interceptors, MPA high endurance aircraft with ISTAR capabilities....then you will know why Nigeria bought 300 anti-piracy vessels instead of Frigates and Submarines
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We got some of biggests ports I. Africa and tones of trade. I mean when we sail you can not see massive cargo ships. All the time. And not even that far out. So your first point is a clear sighing you a A don't know what you talking about or B that you don't care.

Have you seen a warrior class strike craft. They don't need to be stealth. They all ready small. Has for IPVs, technically that not the job of our navy. DAFF, nastional parks, SARS and the police Handel that. Even the current T crafts of the navy where not bought to be IPVs but air sea rescue launches for the air force. They do patrol work because they bought and paid for but there old job is no longer needed.


We do have MPAs. The turbor daks.


We all so have high speed intoception boats. With the navy and special forces.


The job of SAN is war. Anti piracy is somtbing we do on the side.

EVarn:
how can a crashed jet be retrieved?.you should try using your custard filled skull,and stop embarrasing yourself.

Crashed jets are retried all the time. You could use a helicopter or truck to get it done.

Seems you got a Small batch of AFV again.

http://info-news.eu/ukraine-delivered-t-72ab-tanks-and-btr-4e-apcs-to-nigeria/

Ukraine Industrial, referring to Nigerian source “Beegeagle’s Blog”, published information about the delivery of Soviet-made T-72AB tanks and modern Ukrainian BTR-4E APCs.

Previously there was no information about contracts on delivery of such armaments to Nigeria. However, the information about the repair works of T-72AV at State Enterprise “Lviv Armor Repair Plant” appeared in September 2014. Concerning the BTR-4E, it seems that small part of 42 BTR-4E APCs batch designed for Iraq, was sold to Nigeria, after Iraq refused to accept them.

On March 26, 2014, Ukraine’s ex-PM Yulia Tymoshenko asked the Security Service of Ukraine to investigate the sale of military equipment to foreign states during the time of Russian military aggression against Ukraine. She also noted, that she had the information about the preparation of delivery of T-72 tanks and BTR-4E APCs to Nigeria.

Valeriy Heletey, then-Defense Minister of Ukraine, refuted some part of Tymoshenko’s statements, while confirmed the existence of a sales contract between Ukraine and Nigeria. “The contract was signed during the presidency of Viktor Yanukovych, and in case of inability to fulfill this contract, Ukraine will be obliged to pay the penalties.” – said Mr. Heletey.

According to unofficial information, in 2014, the Democratic Republic of Congo received a batch of modernized T-64B1M tanks in the framework of sales contract for 50 such tanks. However, 12 T-64B1M from that batch were delivered to the National Guard of Ukraine.

- See more at: http://info-news.eu/ukraine-delivered-t-72ab-tanks-and-btr-4e-apcs-to-nigeria/#sthash.awMoZvrO.dpuf

agaugust:
Nigeria has BTR-4 IFV ultra-modern. You missed may things on the forum, NA and NAF have changed to next level beyond your imagination.

They far from ultra modern.

How many you getting.

agaugust:
@Patches is iinsane, Vietnam a military victory for USA? The guy is maaad !

It was. When the US withdrew the front was stablizrd and there was a peace treaty. Nigerians need to study the war. Not the holieood vetstion.

[quote author=agaugust post=30272172]Same way you said Nigeria is not getting any T-72 and BTR-4....you just play ball over the bar randomly.[/quo[email][/email]te]

You Geri g BTR4 now. The ukrains must be desperate for cash.

agaugust:
Stop asking people to repeat citations posted here many times. SANDF officers failed academy exams and get promoted.

"And UN lambasts discipline of South Africa’s ‘poorly trained’ troops.

The officer in charge of training soldiers for deployment to the Democratic Republic of the Congo (DRC) is an exam cheat.

And in another embarrassment for the SA National Defence Force (SANDF), a top UN official sharply criticised the discipline and combat readiness of South African soldiers in Sudan in a recent letter.

Brigadier-General Sithabiso Mahlobo, who was found guilty in 2002 of cheating in exams, is in charge of the training of soldiers who are in the process of being deployed to the war-torn North Kivu province of the DRC.

He is the commander of 46 SA Brigade in Kengray, Joburg."

http://www.citypress.co.za/news/exam-cheat-is-training-army/

Stop asking for old citations to be repeated here, you fraudulent retaaard !
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Did we not talk about this before?

The news paper could not produce the report

We refused training I g because we did not need it. In fact the ambushed trooper performed well.

I mean don't bring up stuff from the past.

agaugust:
Orange colour boat might be choice for easy ID at sea in deep offshore waters, it is unique and the crew knows their boat different from pirates boats at sea, easy ID at a distance if sailors want to shoot at pirates or see how their own boat crew is faring afar off, also easy to see in storm for rescue and pick up.

LOL, you are always intimidated by Nigerian Navy's stealth fleet of 2 units of OPVs, 2 units of MPVs, 60 units of IPVs, 62 stealth vessels that South African navy does NOT have....reason why you say Nigerian stealth ships are not stealth, LOL...stealth capability built in Europe and Asia...Manufacturer specs clearly and repeatedly says NNS Centenary is stealth and TOTALLY invisible to enemy radar at a long distance, only at close distance will radar detect a much smaller image and think it is a canoe or tiny fishing boat.

The video also shows the sea trials prove the ship is modular and can be easily reconfigured from OPV to light frigate in case war arises, the ship has amidships on deck midpoint vertical missile launchers and astern mid deck vertical rocket launchers, all tested at sea before hand over to NN, but likely all launchers removed after testing and debugging to return it to regular OPV status. The missile test is shown in the video at minutes 1:30 to 1:40, clean and clear !

It's no big deal to understand for intelligent folks....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LE3170G4rhA&feature=player_embedded

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Sure it may be use full for rescue work. But it is big orange and shows up on radar

They not stealth. You can see the mast has straight lines and flat sides. The're are flat surfaces and clutter every where. I would give her a 50% reduction. Yes small but far from tiny. Not to menstio she has no reducstio in thermal.


Please find them. To make you halt I will even post close up shots of her.

ELKASPBG:
nigerian navy will cook all S/A navy in less than 3mins

With what. You do know your anti ship missiles are old, your SAM's are out dated and your ASW Is non existent.

ELKASPBG:
“For 30 years, we had only one frigate, now we
have four additional frigates,”

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charlos14:
You must either be delusional or plain stupid to just speer nonsense. How did your suppose best military school fail to produce a battle scenario against seleka?
The only thing recognizable about you is your Defeat from CAR

A defeat where we achieved all our prestated objectives. At no point did we claim to be defending the country. Only our trainers. No trainer was lost.

NaijaPikinGidi:
Leave AndrewZA to whine in pain! No Naval Officer or Ship Captain would give out such info. And if that's the info AndrewZA got, I am certain he's been punked nicely!

I did not anserw the wustion because some one did so for me.

Fact is she is not stealth. Her fun el pumps out hot air and all the clutter on the Deck ruin any stealth the hull gave. She will appear the same size has a valour does on radar. Witch though small is pointless since she is small. In fact there are ships that are smaller that pack has much punch. The whole point of the stealth on the valour is to suprise the enemy. Here is a frigate with all it for power and defences the size of a fishing boat on radar.


If course I have said I like her. She is a good patrol boat. She will shock ileagel fishermen, smugglers, pirates, extra. They don't have the radar of a war ship so they may confuses her for a fishing boat and by the time it is they see her it is to late. But she is no match for a frigate.



All so don't call me a officer. I work for my living.

http://www.iol.co.za/dailynews/opinion/airlifting-hope-to-country-under-water-1.1808070#.VMseM-BBvqA


The Oryx helicopter is on the tarmac, undergoing a service outdoors under the hot tropical sun.

It’s at the civilian Quelimane airport in Mozambique, where the SANDF is providing flood relief.

On the tarmac, Corporal Phetogo Mahuma is at the top of a stepladder, filling up the oil at the tail rotor.



“We are servicing aircraft in the veld just to get the job done,” said Lieutenant-Colonel Eddie Rieger, who is the force commander for the operation.

The Oryx is the first of the three SANDF helicopters in the operation to need servicing – they shouldn’t fly more than 20 hours without maintenance – and an SA Air Force (SAAF) C130 heavy transport aircraft that flew from Gauteng to Quelimane on Tuesday, brought a crate of helicopter spares.


The SANDF team is based at Quelimane on the coast, just south of the Licungo River, which burst its banks, and is working in Zambezia province, mainly in the Mocuba and Maganja districts.

The SANDF was called in on January 14 – day four of the flooding – and flew a reconnaissance trip in a C130 the next day. It then moved in a team. The SANDF helicopters took a day-and-a-half to fly to Quelimane, arriving on Saturday.

By then, the main search-and-rescue work had been done, so most of the SANDF’s job has been moving food aid and medical supplies.

“We are the donkey moving the aid,” said Rieger.

That aid is mostly food and medical supplies and comes from the Mozambique government, much of it from the UN.

The SANDF deployment is for 14 days, but may be extended.



The SANDF would not give details, such as the number of troops involved, until the operation was over, said Major-General Xolani Mabanga.

Those deployed include the SA Military Health Services (SAMHS), pilots, divers, and teams for search-and-rescue work and moving aid.

At the weekend, the SANDF helped set up rescue and aid centres in the regions, and aid was flown to those centres. Once there, local teams move it further.

Rieger said most areas needing aid had received it, so the focus was on sustaining that.

“It’s hard work. We’re busy from 7am to 7pm,” said an SAAF pilot.

The Mozambique authorities are also flying aid in Antonov heavy freight aircraft.

SANDF team members refer to the good co-operation with Mozambique authorities, with the teams from the two countries liaising daily, planning the work.

“We want to get to the bottom of it to say: What is your exact requirement and where?” said Lieutenant-Colonel Evert Potgieter, from Air Force Command in Pretoria. He is the team’s liaison officer with Mozambique’s government.

By midday on Tuesday, the SANDF team had flown 45 sorties in three days, a total of almost 30 flight hours in the two big Oryx helicopters and the smaller Agusta A109.

SAMHS is a key part of the team and has an ops medic on every flight.

“They collect medical intelligence that’s fed back into the system,” said Lieutenant-Colonel Danie Wehl of SAMHS.



“It’s far better than in previous deployments. I think they were better prepared,” he said.

On Monday, one of those flights was to Ile district to collect two women in labour who urgently needed Caesarean sections and take them to hospital in Mocuba.

Other flights have moved patients from smaller hospitals to bigger ones.

It’s the displacement of people and damage to infrastructure that’s the big logistical problem. Rieger said about 230 000 people had been affected.

Death tolls are vague as many people are still missing.

While the waters are slowly receding and the communities are no longer in immediate danger, those displaced face hunger and the threats of cholera and malaria.



“Those are two of our enemies we want to combat,” said Rieger.

Qari Ziyaad Patel, from South African aid organisation Al-Imdaad Foundation, arrived on Monday.

The foundation has raised about R1.15 million from South African donors and distributed more than 1 000 aid packages.

“People are desperate for food right now,” said Patel.



The C130 aircraft has been back and forth.

Sergeant Thubelihle Khumalo is the air-load master responsible for distributing the weight of the cargo safely.

He has also flown regularly to the DRC as part of the SANDF support there and says his job is “not for a married man”.

The cargo the SANDF has flown in has included a back-up plan for getting home again: 20 drums of aviation fuel for the helicopters.

They have managed on what they have found in Mozambique so far, although Quelimane airport ran out of fuel for a few hours on Monday.

Flying those 1 500km home means refilling three times on the way, so they’re keeping 13 drums of fuel in reserve to get to the first refuelling stop.

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SAAF flood rescue team.