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agaugust:
SAAF kissing the ground in grand style ...

https://www.saairforce.co.za/seed/public/files/article_images/944/4d08c35217ec5_large.jpg
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Mechnical issue. Pilot saved the chopper and lives on board.

giles14:
y cant d AFIT retrofit dis trainer aircraft to reccon very light attack aircraft

Of course you could. But it woult be very good.

agaugust:

NAF is not counting hours anymore, we have gone too far beyond that low level, we now count combat sorties in thousands.

SAAF has been flying mostly transport aircraft for civilian VIP personalities sucking up your low fuel.

SAAF has not flown a single combat mission with jets in the last 20 years !

No wonder you have of 8 Gripen pilots qualified and only 12 Gripens in flying condition, the rest are in cold storage like Tilapia fish in a fish sales depot
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All coutries count hours. Expect NAF because they don't want to embarse them selfs.

Post proof you have flown 1000 combat sorties?

Both hawks and gripen fly every day.

Again disproven yet you don't accept this fact because you don't like the fact NAF is useless.

EVarn:
that exactly what i told andrewza and his cohorts,any country that constantly undergo aerial training exercises will always have crashes.thats why even the best airforces have high aircraft crash rate during training.the SAAF rarely train{for reasons we all know},thats why the SAAF's only job during wartime is to transport food and fish to the battlefield

saaf get more money than naf so i would put your flight hours bellow our 18000hours

MikeCZAR:
People all the time underestimate how fast these vehicles can actually travel.

Expsealy on a flat tared road.

mzilakazi:
Army.

what mustering?

EVarn:
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha....are you this dumb or do you just do this to amuse me?,so flying close together enough to cause overheat and explosion is a good thing?,or dont you know that the rotors generate electromagnetic waves?

Really?

then why have none ever blown up even though it been done for years.

EVarn:
they arent clogged together like sardines,there is an even space between flanks.

The close flying is a show of skill. I mean you this stupid

And how is it better than SAAF?

the twin engines are a big give away it is not NAF. And how is that flight better than SAAF

mzilakazi:
Then show it for us to see.

he cant


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1Cfh1RSoYw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIpQ-xqVQ5s

EVarn:
the NAF have better formation that the SAAF.period.

Really well then show some?

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7430/13972072657_3071de9e96_o.jpg
[img]http://www.defenceweb.co.za/images/stories/AIR/2009apr2%20(leon)%20roodewal%20147.jpg[/img]
https://i856.photobucket.com/albums/ab130/STR82THGP/20130603C130BURST_zps6b119a8e.jpg
https://www.flightzone.co.za/media/photos/avcom/aad2008/highlights/lightbox/images/aad_25.jpg
https://www.saairforce.co.za/seed/public/files/gallery/1/1/108/49d5fa4e96d16_large.jpg

EVarn:
if that is how you fly ceremonialy,then God forbid that you ever go to war.

And how does NAF fly? In to the ground?

EVarn:
and how are all the formations in those pictures the same?,i know that the third and last images are SAAF jets,but all i see in them are SAAF pink and yellow jets making a nuisance of themselves in the sky and forming ridiculous numbers.

Just admit, you wish NAF could pull something like this of.

EVarn:
and why would you include picture of USAF and RAF aircrafts along with SAAF aircraft formation.i thought you said the were SAAF aircraft formations in display?

I said find SAAF. You had zero idea that our flights are the same has others.

EVarn:
what are the USAF and RAF doing displaying in SA?

I mean I included USAF and RAF aircraft flying in there countries. Not my problem you cant see the difference

EVarn:
if these are the formations your airforce operates,then i advice you never to go to war.all the formations,especially that of image 3,make me laugh,flying aircrafts so close together,if one of the aircrafts were to get bombed either in the rear or in the flanks,the whole formation would go into disarray,infact the other aircrafts could also blown up due to detonation blast range.i'd wager they are flown by recruits.

this why you are a fool, not all those aircraft are from SA, I included the USAF and RAF.

Next you don't use display formations during combat

[img]http://3.bp..com/-vUQxvyuEXPA/USbEhszerkI/AAAAAAAABoU/HvrZMcaDtmw/s1600/3083.JPG[/img]
One jet is better than the entire NAF and other is older than Nigeria

[img]http://2.bp..com/_-qJN0Na0LjA/TR91wL0szAI/AAAAAAAAArk/g1ihpnWvNd8/s640/SAAF+Gripen+over+Soccer+City+Stadium%252C+Johannesburg%252C+South+Africa.jpg[/img]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BcGFuctCEAAixR_.jpg
missing man formation

https://www.gripenblogs.com/AnalyticsReports/multinational%20Gripen_Jamie%20Hunter.jpg

EVarn:
is that a formation or a catastrophe?,even pidgeons dont arrange themselves in that manner while flying.try taking that formation to war,and watch the flaming carcasses of your precious gripens rained down from the sky,pilots and all.

Find SAAF

[img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/93/10th_AF_Four_Finger_Formation.PNG[/img]
https://www.defenceweb.co.za/images/stories/AIR/Air_new/SAAF_Gripens_400x300.JPG
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/05/19/article-2146740-132CB8EB000005DC-435_964x530.jpg
https://www.thesickleaves.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/27_formo-1024x703.jpg
https://m1.behance.net/rendition/modules/118136263/disp/9ae240cd938dbd73950768e689f99193.jpg
https://www.dod.mil.za/news/2014/data/images1/0007966b7.jpg

craziebone:
the three

are looking a pure size or the complete picture I mean the SA army is smaller than most but has far more AFV than most others

EVarn:
what?,you're getting confused?

Can you not see the formation flying

EVarn:
but,wait a minute.seriously,who taught your pilots how to fly aircrafts?,the aircrafts arent even in proper formation!....SAAF is not fit to strike sao tome and principe,talk less of a gaint like nigeria

What ??

agaugust:
NAF F-7 and Alpha jets are cleared to use the manufacturer specified targetingpods, but we don't have them, but the Pakistanis and the French do have.
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Nope. The JZ-7 is the reccon J7. You don't have any.

Any case this argument is pointless since we don't menstion all the wepaons the gripen can carry.

all4naija:
Have it below.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/15795_10204812583580211_1236088642016236474_n.jpg?oh=4dcb9a2c3cbe102e848d4bafd77f59ce&oe=54C5A71E&__gda__=1421302051_0288ffe4ecf50b8ed631b6a9f3258267

We said post proof not your ass

agaugust:
Mandela's over-priced Hawk Jets have no targeting pods, it only uses FLIR like NAF Mi-35 Hind helicopters
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Hawk over priced? It is list has the lowest running cost advance jet trainer.

Unlike your hind the hawk can use Radar of 3rd pary sytems though.

agaugust:
You built Umbani bombs yourselves and Sweden refused to allow it work on your own Gripen jets, you got screwed up after all the billions of dollars you paid your Swedish masters for the over-rated and poorly armed Gripens of SAAF
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Really? Yet they let us intgrat the A-dartar and our HMD? Never though it was not done purly for cost? Nope because you are a ID10T

agaugust:
Gripen jet uses BVR missiles but SAAF does NOT have it.

Same way SAAF did not buy ANY SINGLE Hawk jet targeting pod, sharaaap liar !!!!
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We built them our selfs.

EVarn:
LOL.see this mumu,you guys havent even seen money to feed your people,you're talking about imaginary spy satellites.seriously,how do some governments even reason like sudanese goats?

There are far less hungry people in SA than nigeria.

EVarn:
oghie nitse vha gbeme.which spy satellite are you talking about?,the one thats gonna be launched into space when you great great grandchildren become toothless?

The kondor was launch this year.

SA2 is old but would be a nasty suprise for NAF. Nigeria got luck. Of course I will await more details.


PS Bleep Chad, they supported seleka.

patches689:
Thales Optronics Vicon 18-601E

Hawks targetting pods.

Gripen can perform ISTAR for the Hawk

What are you even trying to prove?

He is trying to say the hawk can't use PGMs. Don't know why though.