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agaugust:
Good boy, now you are talking !

SAAF Hawk jets have NO targeting pods, they use ordinary FLIR same as NAF Mi-35M Hind helicopters
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agaugust:
Ask Angola about ocean tracking

Ask BBC on Bama battle images

Google what satellites are use for

Cry because SANDF has NONE
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agaugust:
Your SA special forces men can see a ship in Angolan deep ocean 300km offshore while sitting in their army barracks in Soweto?

Show me a South African satellite working today 2014, an earth observation settelite used by SANDF.....show me !

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agaugust:
No proof yet !

It was cleared for use, but do you use it?

Mokopa is cleared for use but you don't use it.

Not all old equipment in SANDF are working any longer, the air refuelling capacity you had for Gripens is now dead

No proof the pod is in use, so prove it
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agaugust:
Prove it
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agaugust:
Wrong, that is only for military forces that have only one single satellite.

Nigerian army, navy and air force have 3 satellites including the new advanced radar satellite, means you have few hours interval to almost cover the whole earth in a 24 hour day, you are almost round the meal time observation, breakfast lunch, dinner times.

Satellites are bad you say, only because SANDF and South African backward nation have NO SINGLE SATELLITE
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agaugust:
F-7 is like 3 times cheaper to maintain than Gripen.

It is SAAF that has reported failure of maintenance due to lack of funds, NAF never complained about F-7 maintenance, we do it at home with NAF engineers, SAAF needs to always pay SAAB engineers from Sweden, reason why only 12 Gripens are flying and with only 8 pilots qualified for combat .
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agaugust:
I need proof of Hawk targeting pod, what is the name of the Hawk targeting pod? Gripen uses Lightening targeting pod.

Name the pod for the Hawk and prove it was software and hardware integrated for compatibility.

SIPRI says the British who sold Hawk jet to you did NOT sell the ACMI targeting pod for it, to SAAF

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EVarn:
so you can mark an eyeball from 2000m away?with an AK47?,what type of gun did you use in CAR?.CLOWN!.

EVarn:
hogwash.i've already posted links to support my claims.

EVarn:
so you can mark an eyeball from approx. 3km?,why then do you need binoculars then?.clown.

EVarn:
seleka rebels were young conscripts that were given guns to play.fool,you call the NA a joke,i pity your army of doddery old fools and HIV infested s.ex maniacs then,a bigger joke than the SANDF,does not yet exist.

Missy89:
But when are we going to develop a jet engine aircraft? are we that dumb?

Missy89:
what is your take on the first indigenous Aircraft in Africa?

This babies can be used for surveillance and light patrols. and from the looks of things, it can be very cheap.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egtrWmKNWbw


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0CYD53Qc7A

EVarn:
you bought yourselves "most advanced binoculars privately"?,dont make me laugh,how did you "throw everything you had" at the rebels effectively from 2km away?,did you use tanks?,how did rebel mortars locate your exact position from 2km away that warranted you "reinforcing your structures against mortar attack"?,except you are telling me that the rebels also had "most advanced binoculars" too!,or are mortars now precision guided?

EVarn:
now you are saying you didnt have ammo to fight rebels.shifting goalpost again.seleka rebels were untrained conscripts,dont tell lies!

agaugust:
You were trying to call an attempted coup detat a war, so I silenced you

SADF has Korean war and Namibian war experience from 1966 to 1988 , Cuba had nothing !

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Namibian_War_of_Independence

You are the dip shiit retaard, not me
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agaugust:
I mean 18km to 40km, Nigerian artillery numbers and range beats South Africa.

Gripens will be too far away to h.it ATR-42, with our 330km range radar, we see your army far away, but with 25km range missiles, Gripen cannot hit ATR-42 out of range and operation from far behind Nigerian lines, while F-7 NI with PL-9C missiles intercept any Gripen that wants to take a risk and die.

Yes Cuba has ZSU-23-4 Shilka, reason why SADF was avoiding flying close support combat sorties, your air force was half asleep during the Angolan war for fear of MiG-23 and ZSU-23 guns and SA-2 missile air defenses.

Cowards of Johannesburg
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EVarn:
SA had 200 soldiers facing against thousand of poorly armed,untrained,kwashiokor infested and inexperienced rebels,yet you were ambushed at a T "junction" and ambushed again at the base axis.why are you shifting goalpost?,earlier you said that your troops were "outmatched","outgunned" and unprepared for a fight,now you are saying they went into CAR prepared to fight.catfish.

EVarn:
hey andrewza,have you eaten this evening?.their is nothing heavy about all those weapons,any self respecting robbery gang would have all those weapons you mentioned,liberian rebels had much more than those,yet they were crushed by the NA in weeks.why are you justifying the mediocrity of your army by saying "they didnt go to CAR to fight"?,arent soldiers meant to be always prepared?,how can you strutt into a warzone without arming yourself against potential aggression?....the SANDF is a disgrace.

EVarn:
more nonsense falling from your smooth black zulu a$ss.what "heavy arms" did seleka possess?,did they possess jet,missiles,tanks,atillery?,what type of assault rifles did they use?,what type of bullets did they use?,did they use armour piecer bullets?....and you come here bragging of defeating a pancake rebel group!,even the police would take one look at seleka rebels,and fall down laughing.

agaugust:
stop telling lies mister !

Cuba had no war experience like Lesotho, the Cuban revolution of 1950s old times was a few hundred men with rifles overthrowing a bad government. The teenage Cuban girls that defeated South African army were not even born in 1950 era.


Bay of Pigs was a US cash funded coup plotters invasion of about 200 men trying to overthrow government of Cuba in about 72 hour kind of coup, NO SINGLE USA soldier entered Cuba.

South African army had mature men in SADF and UNITA with a lot of experience of war in Namibia. Remember your boasting about SADF war experience from World War II to Korean war.

Yep, that means they had tradition, but the solders where new.

Cuban teenage girl soldiers knew nothing about war until they used South Africa as their first war and first victory
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agaugust:

Nope, NAF was the one fighting with Alpha jets against real targets that can retaliate, Liberian, Sierra Leonean, and Boko Haram deadly ZSU-23-4 four barrelled anti-aircraft artillery.

SAAF Hawk jets have NEVER seen battle since 8 years ago you bought them, all your pilots do is attack stones and sand in the name of training, why don't you send SAAF to attack rebels that have air defense artillery 23mm caliber in close range air support in a mixed up battle space where infantry and armoured vehicles of both sides are interlocked in hand to hand combat?


Satellites are not good only because South Africa has none. What would you guys say if it was the other way round and South Africa has satellites and Nigeria has none? What would you say then? You would say SANDF = NATO + USA + EU + RUSSIA

Your ground radar range is useless beyond 20 km because of obstructions, ground clutter, false-wrong targets, buildings, civilian vehicles, industrial structures, etc.

ATR-42 of NAF will detect SANDF ground radar and all army equipment 330km away, then NAF will give your positions to NA and we pounce on SANDF with 660 artillery guns 18km to 42km away and with your army will regret the day they were born by their mothers

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Henry120:
You bloody dummy, 18 crew members doesn't equal 18 pilots you relentless fool.

Proven again, you only got 8 pilots.

Henry120:
That Defenceweb is a fraudulent source isn't a matter to debate over.

agaugust:
No, South Africa needs the North Korean rockets, what SANDF has now is worse than the Korean stuff

PHOTO : ONE OF SOUTH AFRICA'S OBSOLETE JUNK YARD WEAPONS STILL IN SERVICE 2014
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Henry120:
Nope no armour on the homeless soldier.

Henry120:
Defenceweb is not a credible source.


Like i've stated previously, we are only evaluating the aircraft. We are buying it or any lethal equipment from America.

Henry120:
You cannot buy an Aircraft still under-development. We also expressed interests in buying the J-10b, have we gotten them yet?

I did not believe the defenceweb story, as at that time I knew the Airforce had placed orders for additional transport helicopters. And as such, wanted to see a credible source to substantiate the story.

Nigeria has placed orders for a substantial amount of helicopters from belarus and ukraine (up-graded with FLIR, MI-35 and MI-17 helicopters), and brand new MI-35M and MI-171sh from russia.

Previous orders for Russian MI-35M have are been delivered.

What I initially asked for was clarity.