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Henry120: South-Africa is a 3rd world HIV infected, Ra/pe (infant ra/pe), murder capital of the world.

even with how HIV we still have a higher life expediency than Nigeria, why do you think that is.

Only because we report and list our crimes, how much goes unreported in Nigeria? A lot huh.

Henry120: You can see the cell phone jammer the NPF use has a range of upto 50KM. It is left for the police force to deploy it's jammer to what ever range it needs to.

There is no infinite surveillance of any nations territory. The article I pasted clearly chronicles the build and deployment of nigerian army Spy balloon.

*i remember pasting a photo of it when it was launched.

All NATO forces serving in Afghanistan get issued with Personal radio kits.

The bushmaster and cougar are the world's most popular MRAPs.

And it is pointless, see how big that thing is, and it is static.

And why has it had zero success, why are there zero pics of it. Not to menstion it was leaked not long ago Nigeria has zero drones in operation and that thing is a drone.

And no.

[img]http://www.army.mil/-images/2007/06/06/5489/army.mil-2007-06-18-094708.jpg[/img]
https://www.abc.net.au/news/image/197394-3x2-940x627.jpg
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nope bushmaster sold well in Australia, but other places got only small numbers of them couger sold well in UK and USA for the rest small numbers. More casspirs where built than the couger and bush master by the way. the number being in the thousands.

Henry120: Defenceweb = Propaganda.

South-African version of "Joseph Geobbels". Provide a reputable source.

just because you do not like it, still waiting for that proof defence web stole info from you one man beagel blog.

Henry120: Wrong.

1 OBJ-006,
1 AKM,
1 FN FNC
1 AK-74, 150 rounds.

American troops in afghanistan carry 1 M-4A1, 7 MAGs.

Prolonged fire-fight, there are always additional MAG's in the Armoured vehicles.

We have all seen the pics, the bulk of your army is armed with AK47s, sure there are others here and there but not in larg numbers.

US solders do not have to tape 4 mags together though and 7 mags is 210 rounds. not to mention that is the minimum standard of a us solder, there grunts go in to batel with up to 410 ronds.


So you will confine your self to your trucks?

http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=35857:sandf-planning-for-implementation-of-defence-review&catid=111:sa-defence&Itemid=242

The South African National Defence Force (SANDF) has set up a planning committee for the implementation of the Defence Review as it slowly inches its way from concept to reality.

Chief of the South African Army, Lieutenant General Vusi Masondo this morning told journalists that the review has been approved by cabinet and is with parliament for discussion and endorsement. “The Defence Review is posing a crucial question: what kind of defence force do we need…what tasks have to be undertaken? Once this question has been answered they will be required to resource the defence force adequately.”

“We are excited in the SA Army since there is movement on the Defence Review front aimed at bolstering our efforts towards fulfilment of the mandate that the constitution set on us, that of providing combat-ready forces to safeguard our borders and territorial integrity while also playing a role in laying a foundation from which social development would be possible. We are also mindful that the SA Army is not a social agent for socio-economic development and upliftment of the public,” Masondo told journalists at the SA Army annual media breakfast this morning.

“The Defence Review Report recommends a change in the approach on how the SANDF and SA Army in particular conduct business for us to fulfil our constitutional mandate. Our responsibility exceeds just doing border control and safeguarding the people of the Republic. We are a part of the global community that asks of us to become more involved on the African continent as part of the African Union and the United Nations.

“We have been aware of challenges that have been hindering our operations for a few years and have since reported that to our principals. It also gives us great joy that our requests are now being considered, albeit in a phased approach, depending on the availability of funds.”

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Vusi Masondo

Masondo said the first milestone of the Defence Review is to arrest the decline that is currently taking place within the Army. “If we are fortunate enough to have funds being availed we will arrest the decline and reprioritise the SANDF.”

The Defence Review would like to see defence spending increase to 2.4% of GDP but Masondo noted that because the economy is not performing well, with huge debts to service, “funding would be incremental and not immediate.” The Review ultimately would like to see the defence budget standing at R88 billion (double what it is at present) and 158 operational units. Masondo said he welcomed the cabinet’s intention through the Defence Review to improve the funding of the Defence Force.

Because of a lack of funding, most of the Army’s budget is going to salaries. “We are spending a huge portion of the defence budget on human resources. We should be spending 30% on operations, 30% on capital renewal and 40% on personnel. We are not there,” Masondo said, with salaries accounting for over half the defence budget (58%). “We are faced with challenges,” he added, with the budget shortage necessitating the use of funding from the operations budget to pay salaries, something which is “not an ideal situation.”

For the Army, Masondo said the Review would like the establishment of an armour brigade that will provide medium and heavy forces, which can be used for peace enforcement. “The Defence Review envisages the establishment of a motorised division, charged mainly with border safeguarding and internal protection tasks including peace support operations on the continent. It also envisages the establishment of a contingency brigade. This will allow for a rapid deployment instrument for the chief of the SANDF.”

“We are now actively on a drive to arrest the decline that renders our army unable to optimally reach the heights we would like to reach. The Defence Review makes it possible to continue full-scale force rejuvenation, revamp and in some cases, replace ageing equipment while at the same time addressing the issue of ageing, derelict facilities. The SA Army is moving forward and with that, there is a need to improve the conditions of our soldiers on the ground,” Masondo said.

The Army will in the next two years start receiving 238 Badger infantry fighting vehicles, recently took delivery of the Starstreak air-defence missile and aims to replace its Casspir, Mamba and Samil vehicles through Projects Sapula and Vistula. Although these projects are taking time, the implementation of the Defence Review means they could be accelerated.

In spite of its challenges, Masondo said the Army has done what was asked of it. “Over the years we have complied with ordered commitments, including external operations. The army is healthy. It has challenges here and there but it is managing them.”

OK lets set a few things straight.

MRAPs
The US MRAPs for the most part serves only the USA where SA MRAPs are great export items. And UA MRAPs can not touch the SA stuff.

Nigeria does not have any spy balloon, or if they do it is worthless since BH is still able to launch massive attacks on Nigerian towns with techncals.

Not all NATO countries issue personal radios to every troop

There is no 50km cell phone jammer

Nigeria did nothing to help end apartheid

Arty does not need to see you to shoot you.

http://itweb.co.za/mobilesite/defenceweb/home/item_id-35673/


Armscor and AMD forging a strategic alliance

by defenceWeb, July 31, 10:00 am

Four days after Defence and Military veterans Minister Nosiviwe Mapisa-Nqakula went public on the soon to be established National Defence Industry Council (NDIC), top Armscor and AMD personnel committed to a "new focus on improving efficiencies".


The meeting is part of new Armscor chair retired Vice Admiral Johannes Mudimu's stated intention of strengthening relationships between the South African defence industry and the acquisition agency to the benefit of South Africa's military personnel.

"For the SA National Defence Force (SANDF) to continue safeguarding the sovereignty of South Africa and on its peacekeeping missions on the continent it is of the utmost importance it is equipped with the necessary systems in time and on time. It is thus crucial that Armscor and the local defence industry work together to meet this need," Mudimu said after the meeting with senior representatives of the SA Aerospace, Maritime and Defence Industries Association (AMD).

The meeting saw issues and concerns discussed, including industry support and acquisition policies which impact directly on both the development and sustainability of the local defence industry. This led to a decision that existing Armscor/AMD sub-committees to continue work on finding "effective and efficient collaborative solutions," Mudimu said.

Dean Mogale, AMD chair, said after the meeting his association and Armscor were "forging an open and engaging communication platform".

"This is not only to the benefit of the customer - the SANDF - but for the defence industry as a whole. We are committed to transforming the defence industry in support of government's strategic imperatives, especially in the areas of BEE compliance, skills development, training and support of SMMEs."

Both Mudimu and Mogale said their respective organisations were committed to using the upcoming Africa Aerospace and Defence exhibition at AFB Waterkloof as a showcase for the South Africa defence industry and the acquisition processes and expertise within Armscor.

http://itweb.co.za/mobilesite/defenceweb/home/item_id-35855/


PMP expanding product portfolio

by Guy Martin, August 14, 10:31 am

Ammunition manufacturer Pretoria Metal Pressings (PMP) is diversifying its product range, manufacturing Russian calibre ammunition and investing in research and development, such as polymer bullet casings and less than lethal ammunition.


PMP recently concluded an agreement with US company PolyCase on the manufacture of heavy metal free ammunition and polymer cartridge cases, which are lighter and much cheaper than conventional brass. PMP is also conducting its own research into these areas and aims to double its research and development efforts in the next two years as it keeps abreast of technology and increases its portfolio and turnover.

Some of the research and development projects PMP is involved with deal with programmable fuses, heavy metal-free primary explosives and incorporating 3D printing in components and manufacturing processes.

PMP is collaborating with a number of institutions on research and development, such as the Council for Scientific and Industrial Research (CSIR), Armscor and various local universities. PMP is looking at a number of new areas, including less than lethal ammunition, and is exploring collaboration with various small arms and ammunition manufacturers such as Brugger and Thomet (B&T) on less than lethal ammunition production (Denel is marketing some of B&T's small arms). Phaladi Petje, CEO of PMP, said that less than lethal ammunition was needed for the local security clusters in South Africa.

Petje noted that the 2012 Defence Review calls for the support of the South African National Defence Force and the consolidation of sovereign capabilities within South Africa. As a result, the company is trying to be sure it can localise some technologies that are critical to the defence force.

Part of the process of expanding the product portfolio and finding new markets involves being competitive and for this reason PMP is embarking on a massive machinery improvement programme worth R400 million over the next five years. This will see new machinery bought and older machinery upgraded and improved. The plant renewal process has begun, with some systems set to come on line in the next two to three years.

PMP aims to double its turnover to more than R1 billion over the next five years as it increases its presence in Africa and meets the needs of the local market. As part of its strategy of expanding into Africa, PMP recently made the decision to begin manufacturing Russian 7.62 x 39 mm ammunition for the AK-47 series of assault rifles and their generics. At the moment the company is ready to produce and deliver this type of ammunition and has sent out quotations to interested customers. It is also nearly ready to deliver 23 mm Russian calibre cannon ammunition. Petje told defenceWeb that there are requirements for the 23 mm ammunition and PMP is in discussions with clients for a 'substantial amount'. He added that PMP has been having successes supplying ammunition to some countries in Africa.

"We realised that to penetrate the African market, we need products to complement their systems," Petje said of the decision to manufacture Russian calibre ammunition, as a significant number of African countries use Russian rather than Western ammunition and military equipment.

As a state-owned company, PMP exists primarily to serve South Africa's needs first. "We exist to meet the SANDF's requirements and have an obligation to add to the national development objectives," Petje said. In addition to supplying the South African National Defence Force with various calibres of ammunition, PMP also disposes of old ammunition stocks and recovers the copper, which is used in other applications, but the company is exploring the possibility of ammunition disposal on the rest of the continent.

PMP is currently producing 30 x 173 mm ammunition for the 30 mm GI30 CamGun of the Badger infantry fighting vehicle (IFV) being built for the South African Army. The company is busy qualifying the 30 x 173 mm CamGun ammunition for the Bushmaster cannon, which is extremely popular throughout the world and therefore a good export prospect. Petje said PMP would hopefully soon be having a foreign sale involving this type of ammunition.

PMP also developed the 20 x 42 mm ammunition for the shoulder-fired Neopup weapon. The ammunition is ready for production.

Since Swartklip ceased manufacturing .22 Long ammunition some years ago, there has been no local production of this type of ammunition and this is something PMP may consider as there is lots of demand. "It is in our thoughts," Petje said, noting that the company receives many requests for quotes for such ammunition.

Some 40-55% of local manufacture is exported but in a good year Petje said PMP can export up to 60%. This year he expects the company to export 55-60% of its turnover. For the first time in many years PMP has a good order book - normally at this time of year he said the company has around 55% order coverage but at the moment it is sitting on 100%. "Next year is exciting," Petje said, in terms of both orders and partnerships, with a 'significant' order pipeline.

One third of PMP's turnover goes towards non-military business, such as chemicals for the mining industry, blasting fuses for mines and brass strip for industry. As PMP increases its turnover, it is expecting to sell mining drill bits outside South Africa, which is currently its main market for drill bits.

PMP makes ejection seat cartridges under license from Martin Baker and supports the ejection seats of the Hawk Lead-In Fighter-Trainer and Gripen fighter jet of the South African Air Force. The company also supplies different power cartridges e.g. fire extinguisher cartridges, bomb release cartridges, etc. for some international clients.

patches689: Strawman detected

The isrealty army and their infantry are no where near the best in the world

Is this guy seriously comparing part-time conscripts to professional soldiers?

Btw, generally Canada and Britain are considered to have the best infantry in the world

In the IDF they go fighter pilots, tankers then infantry in terms of importance. They probaly the best fighter pilots in the world and best ground crews. Then the army loves tanks, the merkva is a tough tank to crack and can doubel up as a IFV, they even gave it a 60mm morta.

There infantry main APC is still the M113. Sure they have all those cool heavy APCs but the bulk are still M113s.

http://itweb.co.za/mobilesite/defenceweb/home/item_id-35838/

Hot pursuit is tacking place in the kruger park. And here is somthing to think about. We still have more Rhinos than the rest of the world put together.

Henry120: "Does it change the fact the chinese and americans are the leaders in MRAPs?"......... Nope.

American MRAPs are being given to there plocie, scrapped, left in Astan or being put in storage. They built thousands of them but they not really good for long term use. US MRAPs are heavy, bad off road and suffer from logiscal and maintance issues. Hence so many being scrapped. Those that are good are being gobbeled up by US ploice departments. The really good ones the US army will keep.

China? They had to come learn from SA. Even your big foot needed SA help.

agaugust: Fool !!!!!! Palmaria is a self propelled artillery with full armour protection and speed of a main battle rank, it will simply advance forward and close the range gap of your G-7 artillery in 15 minutes or even less.
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Warfar is not conduct on flat ground. Terrian is a issue.

Moveing to far foward puts them at risk of direct fire or being over run.

Well moveing you can can not shoot but can be shot at.

NaijaPikinGidi: Question to Mike..ZA remains:

Why has SANDF failed to protect your territorial integrity from the threat of Poachers?

Digest this official quote from your Minister, Edna Molewa:

"Illegal rhino killings have spiked from 13 in 2007 to 1 004 last year, steadily increasing despite the deployment of soldiers in the vast nature reserve."

Don't hide under the bed of conservation. #noroomfordeflectioins

There is 1 company plus support elements and a few hundred rangers protecsting the park the size of israle.

agaugust: .

Best MRAP in Africa....Nigeria

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Hardly. It still not better than a casspier.

agaugust: Palmaria artillery is not advancing alone, you are fighting an army that also has motorized infantry and armoured brigades.......and spy balloons watching all enemy movements. You think in a war, only you will be doing things? Like Iraq thought he was going to kick Iran like a kid ?

You don't have any stupid spy baloon. You plamarie are out gunned, your motriced infantry are out gunned by mechnized and your tanks are out gunned by our armoured cars never mind tanks. Most of your army drives around in hilux pick ups.

agaugust: Transfer 10,000 Hamas men out of fenced off Gaza city, to disguise and secretly mix with civilians and live for 5 years inside Israeli cities, then you will see how many Israeli civilians will die
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But it has not happened.

Henry120: This is the nigerian army's radio and signals guy.

I'm not referring to this chap.

yes you mean those small limited range head set things, there range is so tiny and not what i was talking about when i mean radio, i mean comms measured in KMs not meters.

Henry120: Refer to my other post.

refer to my other post

agaugust: .

Good to see you admit insurgents sneaked and used stealth to beat and damage Israeli army, the best soldiers in the world.

If it was Nigerian army, you will shout incompetence.

Most of the Israeli officers were infantry men that entered inside Gaza and got kill.ed on the streets by Hamas young men.

The Hamas underground hole was discovered and blocked by Israel.

Proves to you civilian insurgency is a tougher enemy than mighty Egypt.

South Africa will crumble if Boko Haram has 1 million hidden members spread all over South Africa living among normal civilians and also working inside SANDF.

I pity you mister man !

How many Israel civilians have died. those solders are dieing but they doing there job of protecting there civlians.

agaugust: Most of the Israeli officers were infantry men that entered inside Gaza and got kill.ed on the streets by Hamas young men.

The Hamas hole was discovered and blocked by Israel.

Proves to you civilian insurgency is a tougher enemy than mighty Egypt.

South Africa will crumble if Boko Haram has 1 million hidden members spread all over South Africa living among normal civilians and also working inside SANDF.

I pity you
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And where those israle solders run away as a girl dressed as a girl?

Hole? don't you means holes and not all are blocked they find more all the time.

hardly it proofs urban combat is deadly, and israle officers lead from the front.

But they have not infiltrated us, and we do not have rebels in SA because rebels a social economic problem.

agaugust: All British Army Soldiers carry one radio each...standard kit.
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it is hardly a radio though, it has a max rang of only a few hundred meters. Sure it helps out the fire team and section with internal comms but it is not going to call in CAS or be used for company level or even platoon level manovouers

Henry120: I don't think you read what I wrote.

All NATO soldiers have a personal role radio.

And no they do not, the fireteam leaders do. There is no fireteam in the SANDF.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fireteam

Henry120: I'm reading this "creatively comedic" story for the first time from you. I'm not going to respond to the silliness of it either.

Long range, the NPF confirmed it, besides jammers are no big deal, the security services can deploy hundreds of jammers in virtually all nigerian cities, if the choose to.

B. Cell towers work for much larger areas, and you cannot just turn off a cell tower when you a holding an event in just a small part of a city.

Exactly, but in the area it is deployed.

agubby said it is not so.

Why, just turn of the cell towers, can be done for free, jammers are ment to mainly stop bombs, so 50km range is really not needed.

result is the same, 50km is a massive range to jam,

agaugust: Quote where I said NPF jammer has 50km range. I never said so. What I know is that it's a high power command center with many different types of technical functions.

It's communication systems are directly linked to satellite, see the satellite dish on board.

I won't be surprised if it does international communications, what range do you call that? How many kilometers range can you limit a satellite powered command vehicle?
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So why is 50km said all the time?

Yes it is probably a mobile HQ

We have SAT phones, they nothing to brag about. The radios in sudan can reach SA so that seems far enough, don't you.

Henry120: All nato troops have a "personal role radio" issued to every infantry man serving in the field.

There is the "comms guy" who calls for air-support and any other assistance. This is different from the personal role radio issued to all troops.

only one radio here, hint it the guy with the radio on his back.

https://i.huffpost.com/gen/327575/thumbs/r-AFGHANISTAN-NATO-TROOPS-DEAD-large570.jpg

rescan you see so many hand held radios among NATO troops is that there smallest unit is the fir team of 4 people so there sections would have 3 radios in them

Henry120: Well, first of, Nigerian troops were never defeated by boko-haram.

Jammers are of different specifications, not only did we all see the long range nigerian police jammer( augaugust photo), we also have the jammers which are of a shorter range.


If you don't know an attacker, how can you block all his out-going calls? It makes no sense to have a network provider block all calls in an area, when you can deploy a jammer which effectively jams all radio signals from all networks in an area. It also makes no economic sense to have the networks block their service when the area where an event is to be held is a small space of land.

they where, just because the follow on force was able to drive them out does not mean that for a brief time BH gained grounded and forced a retreat. And yes it was a retreat, if you colonel needs to dress as a women to escape it stopped being a withdrawal. It could even be seen as a route but they the Nigerians did regain the town with reinforments so I say retreat.

And the long range one is A: not confirmed, that could be a pic of a Mobil HQ B: if true pointless and C: never heard of just turning of the cell tower, works just as good.

How do you think a jammer works, a cell phone jammer jams all cell phones.

Henry120: You can lie to yourself as much as you want, it doesn't change the fact all african countries suffer from a deficiency of radios for troops.


Nigeria suffers from a lack of radios for each of it's personnel, the same thing as south-africa.

no country gives all the solders radios, the radio waves would be swamped. the section leader has one, then platoon commanders, extra extra extra.

Henry120: MRAPs were first developed in the U.S. MRAPs are currently developed in over 50 countries across the world including Nigeria.

MRAPs are APC and nothing much. They are the most over-hyped piece of equipment since the end of world war 2.

MRAP was never coined by SA it was coined by the USA. In SA a MRAP is a APC. just about All our stuff is mine resistant in any case.

Thanks to the US media they are now over hyped yes.

agaugust: Hamas insurgents k.illed 50 Israeli army officers from NCO to lieutenant to captain to major ranks in just 21 days last month in Gaza.

One Israeli officer went missing and never came back alive. The Nigerian officer is smarter so be came back home alive.

Israeli army is the best in the world, see their result against enemies mixed and disguised as civilians, same Israeli army and air force that defeated 5 Arab countries at the same time including mighty Egypt.

Last July Gaza war proved to the world that Nigerian army infantry is better than that of Israel, not in equipment, but in men and tactics.

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yes, hamas sneaks across and then proceeds to target them using stealth. Very different to what happened in Nigeria. In Nigeria the battle was lost forcing a senor officer to run away alone dressed as a women.

Henry120: What is the rukus pukus all about in this thread?

aguby was going on about some mystical Nigerian supper cell phone jammer that has a 50km range, say SA does not have one. forgetting that that is so pointless since you can just get the network provider to block all his out going calls. O and he was braging about the Nigerian police and now is trying to turn a defeat against BH in to a massive victory.

Henry120: It is not just a nigerian problem, it is a south-african problem, an Egyptian problem, an algerian problem and a developing world problem.


You try to twist things up un-necessarily.

You do know it's a problem across militaries in the continent including south-africa.

our radios are pretty good thank you very much.

PrinxArthur1: MRAP WAS INVENTED BY US ARMY U ONLY INHERITED IT AND DEVELOPED IT citation: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/MRAP

The first development in armored vehicles designed specifically to counter the land mine threat were initiated during the Rhodesian Bush War; existing technology was subsequently inherited (and matured) by the South African Defence Force after 1980.[2]

Rhodesian MRAP
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SADF early MRAP, still used in some countries
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