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agaugust: it shows how easy it is to fool all south africans with fake photos, we nigerians are more intelligent than you all

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agaugust: even you knows that photo is NOT a nigerian army APC, we dont have that type in the army

or is that a Cobra/VBL/BTR-3U/STEYR ? reason why we call you a navy cook/chef...fool

[img]http://beegeagle.files./2012/05/police-rrs-apcreuters1.jpg[/img]

agaugust: that is a nigerian Police APC. fool

nigerian army APC is either Cobra, VBL, MOWAG, Steyr, BTR- Series....not that police anti-riot/robbery APC in the photo.

all the men around the burnt APC are policemen...not army

boko haram is 10 times better armed than nigerian police, boko carries anti-armour rocket launchers and anti-aircraft guns, nigerian police only has rifles meant to fight criminals, so why wont boko haram defeat any army in the world ? american army too has no weapons to match boko haram.

newspaper journalists are more intelligent than you 33% south african brains, so they fool you around with wrong photos

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agaugust: boko haram stole nigerian APC and they drove it away, but the photo shows a burnt out unmovable APC.

how does a thief steal and drive/joy ride a burnt out vehicle that has no tyres and engine working?

does your brain work ?

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agaugust: nigeria too has ground based radars to support F-7 jet.

Hawk jet is subsonic speed tariner/ground attack jet and CANNOT challenge F-7 jet interceptor in the air...that is suicide

A-darta missile is NOT yet in service as at today. Nigeria too has new weapons coming from China and India, missiles included.

an old south african BVR missile e.g R-Darta will NOT wok on a Gripen jet, even the modern south african Umbani guided bomb CANNOT work on Gripen jet.

stop trying to deceive us on the forum, we are no longer on pages 1 to 12, nigerians have too much information/facts now about the fake capabilities of south african weapons that exist only inside photos and videos, now we have seen pretoria's n..a..k..e..d A..S..S

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agaugust: here is your answer below...



you can get more from @CraigB's posts done in the past 3 months.

throw us a stone, we retaliate and throw you a rock 3 times bigger, that is nigeria for you.

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agaugust: south african army is fighting in Congo DRC under protection of Tanzanian army, and many other armies from about 15 countries of the world including Europe and Asia, that is why south african army agreed to fight in Congo DRC....they hide behind the courageous armies from other countries sent by the UN.

south african military in its modern history has NEVER fought and won any war alone

....a bunch of soweto cowards afraid to die, yet collecting monthly salary only for wearing SANDF army uniforms and posing for @THIZA's nice photos !

https://www.army.mil.za/news/news%202011/jun_11/DSC_7707e.jpg

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agaugust: south african Gripen jet has NO long range missile, NO single beyond visual range air to air missile.... BVRAAM

the F-7 jet and the Gripen jet pilots both have only visual range missiles and will be within close-in radar and visual range of each other...and F-7 jet PL-9C missile has 90% chance of hitting target.

"The single-shot hit probability for a single PL-9C missile launch at an approaching target is 90%"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PL-9


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agaugust: F-7 jet = Beetle Car with working engine = Living Dog

Gripen jet = BMW M5 car with engine trouble = Dead Lion

my Bible tells me...

Ecclesiastes 9:4-5 (King James Version)

"For to him that is joined to all the living there is hope: for a living dog is better than a dead lion. "

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agaugust: including the one below that shot herself in suicide ? fool

* July 2012: Recruit NR Ngcobo shoots herself.

maybe she was R.aped as usual in south africa, and feels humiliated...then suicide

agaugust: F-7 jet is NOT the same as any MiG 21 jet. fact proved above.

F-7 jet is superior to ALL MiG 21 jets, even the MiG Lancer that carries NATO standard missiles and avionics has the old delta shaped wing and CANNOT do the combat maneuvers of nigerian F-7 jet that has the new swept wing for improved air to air and air to ground combat maneuver.

go sit down men ! nigerian F-7 jet PL-9C missile will shoot down south african Gripen jet when they meet in the air. south africa does NOT have any air -superiority over nigeria, you soweto fraudsters were just deceiving us from pages 1 to 800 of this forum. FACT !!!

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rka1: The SANDF’s base of shame

August 24 2013 at 11:28am
By CRAIG DODDS

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iol news pic Oudtshoorn Infantry school
Courtney Africa

The entrance to Oudsthoorn Infantry school for the South African Defense Force. Thirteen recruits have died at the infantry school in the past three years. Picture: COURTNEY AFRICA


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Cape Town - A shocking 11 recruits have died at the Oudtshoorn infantry school in the past three years - a death rate even higher than that at Guantanamo Bay, the notorious US military prison in Cuba where authorities have long been accused of torture and abuse.

Three of the deaths were the result of suicides, it has emerged, amidst allegations that soldiers are burnt with cigarette lighters, that women recruits are kicked by male instructors, and that pregnant soldiers are humiliated by superiors.

In the seven years before mid-2010, a further five recruits had died, according to documents presented to members of Parliament’s defence oversight committee during a recent visit to the military base.

SA National Defence Union spokesman Pikkie Greeff said: “More soldiers have died in that base (in the past three years) than prisoners have died in Guantanamo Bay over the same period.”

The Oudtshoorn base has long been plagued by reports of abuse, with the most recent incident involving a soldier who allegedly froze to death while on guard duty earlier this month.



Western Cape police spokeswoman Captain Bernadine Steyn said this week that samples from the autopsy were still being analysed for a report.

Meanwhile, military ombudsman General Themba Matanzima has produced a preliminary report on instruction by Defence Minister Nosiviwe Mapisa-Nqakula to investigate allegations of abuse.

He said a final report would be ready in the next few weeks, but he expected the minister to ask him to launch another investigation covering the previous three years to “deal with the backlog”.

According to a briefing document given to MPs, Mapisa-Nqakula was forced to order further investigations because the unit’s own boards of inquiry had been unable to conduct “quality and conclusive investigations”.

Mapisa-Nqakula’s spokesman, Siphiwe Dlamini, said it was the minister’s right to ask the military to “dig deeper” if she wasn’t satisfied.

But he said each death had to be dealt with on a “case-by-case” basis.

“We can’t just say because it has happened in Oudtshoorn there is a special problem.”

The preliminary ombudsman’s report had been sent to the chief of the SANDF for action.

DA spokesman on defence David Maynier said he was “deeply concerned” and called for Matanzima’s report to be completed as soon as possible.



This comes after the mother of a soldier stationed in Oudtshoorn wrote a letter to the defence union complaining of conditions.

The union said one of the pregnant women allegedly humiliated by her superiors had committed suicide. But this had been denied by the SANDF.

The union also said a recruit had been hospitalised “with a prognosis of permanent injury to his shoulder after being beaten with broomsticks during a punitive physical exercise”.

The union has alleged that the training session was halted earlier this year because medics feared the recruits would die. Several reportedly required medical treatment, and all their cellphones were confiscated to prevent the leaking of pictures.

The total death toll for the past 10 years has risen to 16. The three suicides all occurred between 2011 and last year.

Greeff said the commanding officers had created “a culture of fear… everybody’s just too damn scared to do anything”.

He said no one had ever been held accountable for the deaths.

Fatalities since 2003

* May 2003: Lance-Corporal TN Mbonjana dies after being overcome by gas heater smoke in his room.

* July 2007: Death of Lance Corporal PM Nxumalo. No cause of death is given.

* 2008: death of Lieutenant NS Msani. No cause of death given.

* November 2009: Corporal TD Malitisa is accidentally shot by a fellow soldier during crowd control training.

* April 2010: Recruit FC Makhubele dies in his sleep of natural causes.

* September 2010: Recruit EN Biyela is absent without leave when he dies in a taxi accident.

* 2011: Recruit WI Rampai dies from “acute follicular tonsillitis”.

* April 2011: Rifleman MT Thekiso dies of a heart attack.

* June 2011: Able Seaman FV Maluleke dies while crossing a river during training.

* July 2011: Staff Sergeant HJJ van Stryp complains of pain in the side while abseiling, and later dies “due to natural causes”.

* August 2011: Recruit MJ Khethupilwe shoots himself.

* November 2011: Lance-Corporal S Ntozini dies of heat stroke on a route march during recce selection.

* December 2011: Lance Corporal CG Nxangashe hangs himself in his room.

* 2012: Recruit EC Bruintjies collapses in a queue while waiting to do a pregnancy test. The cause of death is given as a “cardiological complication”.

* July 2012: Recruit NR Ngcobo shoots herself.

(The list of fatalities at the base between 2003 and last year is contained in documents presented to members of Parliament’s defence oversight committee during a recent visit there.)

Weekend Argus
http://www.iol.co.za/news/politics/the-sandf-s-base-of-shame-1.1567543#.UnS7Sb5FCFQ

agaugust: remove the engine made and imported from France, the Rooivalk helicopter becomes a piece of metal junk that cannot fly

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agaugust: nigeria has more dollar reserves than south africa, i proved that with many sources yesterday. swallow it, bitter truth for you

by the way, south african $55 billion foreign reserve is almost totally swallowed up by south african $50 billion foreign debt, south africa's over-rated economy is very weak in real accounting terms....reason your air force is cash starved and jets/helicopters are mostly grounded.....they only fly inside @THIZA's nairaland photos


[size=16pt]IMF issues warning on South African economy[/size]

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/10/01/imf-issues-warning-on-south-african-economy/

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agaugust: Half-French south african Rooivalk helicopter gunship, never tested in any battle, never killed one single cockroach since the day it was made

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Henry120: You shitless liar, your rooivalk is still sitting in south-africa. SANDF have done absolutely nothing in DRC. There is absolutely no independent record anywhere of you hiv ridden SANDF even lifting a tooth-pick in DRC. None

Henry120: Fool, you were among the terrorists who stole it right?

CraigB: Burnt by BH - a Naai-gerian APC.

agaugust: you make me believe the military academy you attended in south africa trained you part-time on how to use one rifle in an emergency and then trained you full-time how to use frying pan on a gas cooker as navy cook/chef

they way you think sometimes make me wonder....and wonder !

2 weeks war game of Gripen jet users with Sweden, Hungary, Czech republic, and Thailand...all those countries have zero modern air to air jet combat experience against any nations air force in real life war.....south africa was playing games with in-experienced pilots who have never shot down a bird .....bat or dove in all their lives

one year and even more of Nigerian air force F-7 jet pilots flying regularly in combat war drills with Pakistani air force jet fighter pilots and getting ALL the air to air and air to ground jet fighter/bomber skills from Pakistan that has world class air force vs air force real life war experience against the mighty Indian air force in war of 1965 and 1971....

your brain cannot think out which is better, 2 weeks with some in-experienced Gripen pilots or 1 whole year with highly experienced F-7 pilots of Pakistan...nigerian air force is still one of the best in Africa in terms of pilots combat skills and air to air missiles arsenal.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fy3XLnWsok

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPta5UBOq8U

agaugust: hahaha

you still proved my points to be correct. umkhonto missile is ONLY tested and ONLY effective against aircraft or slow flying cruise missiles all in the air above the warship, NOT against a sea water skimming or hugging anti-ship missile like nigerian NNS Aradu Otomat anti-shi missile.

the sea skua test was umkhonto against a air flying drone aircraft, the banshee test in finland was also against an air flying drone aircraft.

"Banshee entered service with the British Army in the mid-1980s as an aerial target for the Short Blowpipe and Javelin shoulder launched anti-aircraft missiles"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meggitt_Banshee

my friend, get this into your head finally and finally, no missile developer with aim of using a missile to stop and anti-ship missile, will design that missile in vertical cell to first fly upwards in a wasted journey like the children of israel in the wilderness, then the defensive missile will start turning upside down again to come back to face the very ship that launched it and try save the ship from a sea water surface hugging Otomat anti-ship missile....use your head even if you dont like to do so, just try once in a while to think like a man that went to school, even if it was a soweto village classroom

see, nobody in the world has been able to stop an exocet anti-ship missile, reason why Argentina used it to sink a powerful British navy destroyer warship that has all the missile, electronic jamming, and heavy/light gun defenses in the world during falklands war. also American navy purchased Otomat anti-ship missile and tested it against US NAVY warships but the Otomat missile defeated ALL marican navy missile defences, then the whole world knew that NOBODY can stop and Otomat missile the messenger of death from NNS Aradu.

both DENEL and south african navy tested fired exocet missiles and umkhonto missiles SEPARATELY AGAINST DIFFERENT TARGETS but not against each other because DENEL was NOT bold enough to test umkhonto to stop a sea skimming exocet anti-ship missile because they know IT WILL FAIL and spoil their marketing over-rating business stragtegy

unkhonto missile CANNOT stop NNS Aradu Otomat sea water surface hugging/skimming anti-ship missile, nigerian navy will sink all south african navy warships from longer range 80km-180km. FACT PROVED 100 TIMES ON THIS FORUM.

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agaugust: yes, civilians in advanced countries go to aviation schools and fly military aircraft like Alpha jets, etc which have been purchased by civilian aircraft enthusiasts for private use.

souldust: can a civilian train to be a fighter pilot just to have skills?

Can the F-7 perform acrobatic display?

agaugust: go check dictionary meaning of 'capacity building' and 'not holding back any knowledge'

pakistani airforce has given nigerian airforce more than what countries get in a two week war game with each other.

nigeria-pakistan combat pilot skills transfer is a very long term and continuing deal. nigeria has defense pact with pakistan.

dont blind your soweto eyes to the part of my posted source that said

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The Pakistan Air Force is assisting the Nigerian Air Force with maintenance and training for its F-7 fighter jets and in building the Nigerian Air Force’s capacity.


Air Chief Marshal Butt said he would help the Nigerian Air Force reach its full potential and promised that “the Pakistani Air Force and the Defence Industries of Pakistan will not hold anything back from the Nigerian people and the Nigerian Air Force . When we cooperate more, we will develop to reach higher heights,” Pan-African news agency (Pana) quotes him as saying."

you dont ever want or wish any other african military to achieve great skills and equipment, only you want to be doing big things in south africa. life does not work that way. be mature in your thinking and dont run down other people when they achieve beyond your expectation. life is not a do or die affair competition.

nigerian navy trains inside pakistani navy sumbarines for both combat and maintenance. if that fact k.ills you, better go and d.ie since you dont wish other african countries military to make progress

please leave me alone, mister time waster . good night !

agaugust: that photo does not show anything to proof it is a south african valour frigate, it is like photo of a headless human body

nigerian navy tests missiles, i prove it with that photo on nigerian navy official website. swallow that fact !



nigeria tests SAM missiles. America does same.

many countries do it once in a while without making public noise as you expected. military is not same as police.



i can see that umkhonto has been tested against a sea skimmimg missile like exocet inside your 3 year old son's playstation video game

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agaugust: ...i gave you shocking proof that nigerian air force does air to air combat training with pakistani air force as national air force vs national air force.

now, case closed

agaugust: nigerian air force pilots started F-7 jets training in china under chinese air force pilots to learn air to air and air to ground combat drills and tactics. if you dont know the course contents of combat pilots training program, it is because you are a navy cook/chef.



what are those nigerian pilots in flying suits doing together with pakistani pilots with that F-7 jet behind them ?

you think its a homo/gay club meeting ? fool

my source/proof is from inside that your south africa.

http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=30548&Itemid=107

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agaugust: .

[size=16pt]Pakistan's air force drills nigerian air force F-7 pilots in world class live combat skills[/size]

Pakistani air force has fulfilled its promise to transfer (without hiding any knowledge and experience) all its air to air and air to ground jet fighter combat skills it gained from its air dogfight and air raid wars with India, to the pilots of the nigerian air force, thus making nigeria to possess world class nation to nation air combat skills.


The Pakistan Air Force is assisting the Nigerian Air Force with maintenance and training for its F-7 fighter jets and in building the Nigerian Air Force’s capacity.

Last week the Chief of Air Staff of the Pakistan Air Force, Air Chief Marshal Tahir Rafique Butt, paid an official five-day visit to the Nigerian Air Force (NAF) as part of efforts to strengthen bilateral defence relations.

Air Chief Marshal Butt said he would help the Nigerian Air Force reach its full potential and promised that “the Pakistani Air Force and the Defence Industries of Pakistan will not hold anything back from the Nigerian people and the Nigerian Air Force. When we cooperate more, we will develop to reach higher heights,” Pan-African news agency (Pana) quotes him as saying.

Pana reports that Pakistani Air Force personnel are present in Nigeria working to maintain Nigerian aircraft. Two Pakistani pilots are providing technical assistance for the Air Force’s Chinese-built F-7NI and FT-7NI jets. Pakistan also operates the type and has trained Nigerian pilots.

The Pakistanis were brought in following several F-7 crashes and the loss of maintenance schedules, which resulted in the grounding of the fleet in October 2012. After assistance from the Pakistan Air Force, the jets were cleared to fly again, Pana reports.


http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=30548&Itemid=107

agaugust: Proves nothing you claimed.

Proves me right.

Proves you wrong.

show us , i said you should show us proof/source where south africa test fired any single one of its 17 Exocet missiles from a valour frigate.

also show us where DENEL test fired its over-rated Umkhonto anti-aircraft missile to stop your south african navy Exocet anti-ship missile to prove the false claim that it can work against sea skimming water hugging missiles. show us proof.

maybe your 33% soweto brain never tells you that testing a missile against a sky flying drone in the air is NOT the same as testing it against a sea water surface hugging anti-ship missile.

your little brain too does not tell you and @saengine that those umkhonto missile tests were done by DENEL as a company marketing its product, NOT south african navy test firing the umkhonto it has purchased and fire from a valour frigate.

it was DENEL that traveled to finland to test umkhonto missile against a drone for marketing purposes, NOT south african navy sailing warship to finland to test fire umkhonto missile.....you really to be spanked until your bum is sore

is there no better thinking brain in south africa than the ones we see here on nairaland ?

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agaugust: i mean BVR AAM...beyond visual range air to air missiles.

PL-9C missile is as powerful as IRIS-T missile. PL-9C is the missile on JF-17 Thunder and the JF-17 is equal to a Gripen.

Nigerian air force pilots in real life war drills have tested our F-7 jets in dogfight combat air to air against Pakistan's air force and mighty China's air force a world super power, and we know how use all our jets and missiles perfectly.

nigerian military is just not in the same noise making newspaper self-advertisement and internet publicity marketing that south african military has decided to busy itself with for many years.

south africa has turned respected military things to become like ordinary police affairs.

Nigerian F-7 jet pilots after air to air combat drills in the air engaging the air force of Pakistan

agaugust: show me proof that south african navy has test fired even only one of its 17 Exocet missiles since about 7 years ago your navy purchased the missiles.

try show me how DENEL tested its Umkhonto missiles as defense against one south african Exocet missile. show us the proof. we are waiting

the photo below is nigerian navy test firing one of our missiles. date of test is not disclosed by nigerian navy. photo is from nigerian navy official website.

click the weblink below, put your mouse/cursor on the "operations and support" menu but no clicks, and this photo below will appear.

proves we test fire missiles without making public noise about it. missiles are expensive to waste.

one single otomat missile of NNS Aradu costs half a million dollars.

one single PL-9C missile of F-7 jet costs $1 million !!!!!

a missile and a bullet are not the same price in the market. use your head before you write comments.

http://www.navy.mil.ng/Exercises