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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Android17: 5:42pm On Aug 24, 2021
BlueAngel444:
Frankly speaking either Dortmund are silly or there isn't a release clause to begin with or the clause is higher and up to €100m as some pointed out.
I already said I doubt that release clause figure we have been hearing about.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Android17: 5:40pm On Aug 24, 2021
ChristineC:
all the analysis depend on the buying clubs. it has been shown recently that many clubs are no longer open to throwing ridiculous fees about. very few clubs will offer up to £250k weekly.
if that release clause is accurate, then the total fee won't exceed £100m.
Not for Kylian Mbappe or Erling Haaland. Kylian was offered 450k/week after tax in PSG and he is refusing. I am not referring to total fee paid to club for Haaland. I am referring to total fee that it will cost United (for e.g to get him). We will be here next season.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Android17: 5:38pm On Aug 24, 2021
BlueAngel444:
like I wrote Bayern could afford 130m – 150m for him, like other teams would, the question is still down to Haaland agreeing to join whichever club. You said Riaola fee is fixed, at the time of Chelsea's bid it was 130m to Dortmund with 30m to Riaola and and about 20 to his Dad, of which Chelsea offered to pay just 40m and was agreed, only left with Dortmund who were refusing to sell.

Haaland interest is Real Madrid, if Madrid don't bite then maybe Bayern or an EPL club, maybe PSG but I doubt that
Yes, Mino and his father agreed, you are right. But they agreed for less than the purported fee because they are not in control for now - Dortmund are. They knew the hard part will be meeting Dortmund's demands. But when the new year is upon us, the control goes back to Haaland, so his agent and Dad can charge you more. Real Madrid might be his favorite, but they want Mbappe now. They even want to pay 120M euros even though Kylian has 1 year left and can come to them free. They are resolved to get him this season for 120M euros or wait and get him free next season. They even said they will pay him whatever wages PSG are offering -which is why he has been rejecting PSG. Real Madrid seem to prefer paying for Kylian than Haaland. Because of Mino Raiola.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Android17: 5:33pm On Aug 24, 2021
Oasis007:
I enjoy your Analysis, but no way he's gonna cost directly or indirectly more than. £100m, if the release clause is real.
Release clause is what you pay his club. That is not in relation to how much he will cost you to get him. Even if you can pay Dortmund the release clause, other clubs can too. Then you have to be willing to get Mino and his father on board which will now give you access to him. That is what will make him very expensive. Look at it this way, if United offered to pay Grealish's release clause as well, you will have to outbid MCFC for the wages, signon bonus and whatever his agent tells you or else, they will listen to the other club willing to negotiate those terms. That is what those other clubs were avoiding.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Android17:
BlueAngel444:
if Bayern are considering Haaland then it may be not as expensive. €80m–€100m R-Clause plus highest €50m for whatever and whoever, Raiola, signing on fee, Papa o.
Total 130m

As long as Dortmund can't stop him moving, the real negotiation would be on his salary and his interests.
lol. The release clause fee goes to the club. Mino's fee is most likely fixed and since Haaland is signed to him, it means Haaland will need to pay him that amount to fire him. The figures that may be flexible will be his dad's fee but the sign on bonus to the player - for not making the buying club pay a huge fee to the club as well as to outbid other teams is what will make him perhaps the most expensive player in history. If you think salary is what will move Mino/Haaland/Erling, you are living in La La Land. Every club that I mentioned can pay him the salary. By the way, Bayern cannot dictate for the market (they paid 72M GBP for a LB/CB in 2019), they either play ball or step aside. You are dealing with a generational talent not Mario Gotze or even Robert Lewandowski. Do you think the only money PSG offered Messi is his 1M/week salary (before taxes)?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Android17: 4:36pm On Aug 24, 2021
AnfieldFan:
Chai grin grin...
See as the comot Liverpool for analysis...

Anyways....I'm only here because I enjoy Ole's tomfoolery... cheesy grin
Liverpool cannot afford such a figure on one player. They will have to sell Salah to offset his wage to do that. Mbappe would have considered Liverpool but they cannot afford him.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Android17: 4:35pm On Aug 24, 2021
...And the reason I put -- M for the sign on bonus is because that is where the bidding war will be between the bidding teams. Chelsea wanted to offer 150M GBP for the player - even up to 160M and Dortmund did not budge. Haaland did not cause a ruckus. Rumour mills said Dortmund would have listened at 175M GBP. When you see clubs rather opt to pay 127M GBP (maybe up to 150M GBP for a 28 year old), there must be a reason that others are overlooking.

cc Oasis007
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Android17: 4:17pm On Aug 24, 2021
Oasis007:
Erling Haaland will be free to leave Borussia Dortmund in January, rather than next summer, when a £64million release clause becomes active.

- Marca


We shouldn't miss out.
There is a reason Dortmund have been silent on that release clause. It is most likely not as low as people think. Be that as it may, there is a reason clubs like Chelsea tried to sign him this season against January when the release clause can be activated for cheaper. The only people to lose out on a huge windfall from Haaland sale will be Dortmund. Here is a speculative breakdown of what the deal will actually be like: Mino Raiola's fees - 50M (to have access to the player), 20M (Haaland's father fees - to convince his son to take your offer), --- M (sign on bonus for Haaland - for signing with your club). That deal will end up being closer to 190M Euros than anything else. Just that only 80M of it will go to Dortmund. MCFC will most likely never go for him because of the hatred between Mino and Pep (by extension MCFC). Real Madrid are going for Mbappe. Chelsea have acquired Lukaku, so the only teams that can meaningfully sign the player are United and Bayern Munich and perhaps Barcelona (if they get their finances in order by some miracle). It won't be as cheap and simplistic as it sounds. Like I said before, there is a reason Real Madrid, MCFC and CFC looked elsewhere.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Android17: 6:15pm On Aug 22, 2021
ESR is a player.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Android17: 5:29pm On Aug 22, 2021
Roland17:
Another one of our young players that has gone to dust under Arteta. The problem is the useless tactics of using Tierney to spam crosses from the left as your primary source of attack. How is Martinelli supposed to thrive under this system? He is not going to get to the end of those crosses. We are way too predictable..
This though.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 7:15pm On Aug 15, 2021
macjireh:
Liverpool were lucky tuchel came very late and we had lethargic strikers...with lukaku,,,leme see how liverpool repeats wat happened last season...

bring dem on,,I will only edit my post cheesy tongue
I am not sure you understood me. At some point, after Tuchel came, he overtook Liverpool and was potentially going to eclipse ManU. But somehow Chelsea still capitulated and needed COYS to win the last game against Leicester for Chelsea to qualify as 4th. I do believe Chelsea stand the best chance this season as things stand but nothing is guaranteed.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 6:52pm On Aug 15, 2021
macjireh:
pep was lucky tuchel came very late and we had lethargic strikers...with lukaku,,,leme see how pep repeats wat happened last season
Liverpool finished ahead of Chelsea last season. I don't think your reasoning on this issue is fool-proof.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 6:49pm On Aug 15, 2021
Amoto94:
The League is a marathon not a 100m dash it's too early to write any team off I still maintain that City and United are the favourites but Chelsea aren't far off either.
I actually feel that if MCFC do not sign Kane, they will drop off this season and finish 3rd. CFC will win the league and United will be second. This is not coming from this game (THFC away from home has been a bogie team for MCFC and their main starters did not have any preseason). Guardiola already said he expected them to start badly but only hopes the gap they will have to make up will not be much.
SportsRe: The NBA Begins by Android17: 11:44pm On Aug 12, 2021
He already said this story is cap. I wonder why people are parading it. You do not award figures just because the baby daddy earns XYZ amount of money or else Chris Brown would have been paying the same. There has to be an established history between the couple, and proof that the child will be improperly taken care of by the other partner should they not earn that much and we all know it is not true.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Android17: 4:41am On Aug 11, 2021
Illimitable:
[s]I like how my victims turn philosophical after getting battered. grin

Go and sin no more.

It’s a wrap! cool[/s]
I admire your ability to delude yourself.
From Sancho was not promoted to why did Phil Foden travel on tour without a new contract?
Why not ask me if Foden's name was mentioned as one of those promoted? Why not ask me if Foden played and trained with the first team after the tour? Because it proves what you had been arguing against. But go ahead, delude yourself some more. grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Android17: 4:24am On Aug 11, 2021
Illimitable:
[s]You are missing the point here - I don’t know if it’s deliberate to hide your previous stupidity or it’s a blind spot for you. [/s]

You had said Sancho didn’t go to preseason(promotion) because he had refused to sign. You linked the signing of his contract directly to his promotion.

[s]So I asked, why wasn’t this the same for Foden? Foden should never have been on the plane to preseason when his own contract talk was only up 18 months later. City should have waited for Foden to also sign his contract before putting him on a plane for preseason.


It’s just simple logic and you keep failing. Your only rebuttal to this was that players are treated differently. So in your company, the MD position can be leveraged to get an employee’s signature while another employee of the same age can become the MD without having to worry about signing any contract regarding the role.


If this doesn’t make you look stupid, nothing else would. grin cheesy[/s]
Let me tell you what stupid is. You started by arguing that Sancho was not promoted. I proved that he was. You could not refute it then your next ploy is to ask me why one of those reasons did not apply to other players - and you are talking about someone else missing the point.
Stop asking me about Phil Foden or any other irrelevant question. You have conceded that Sancho was promoted which was the bone of contention. Find other means to salvage your reputation. This one has flopped hard. grin grin grin grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Android17: 9:56pm On Aug 10, 2021
Illimitable:
But but but “All players are not the same” cheesy grin

Only Sancho was offered the contract for the MD position. Foden and Diaz are different players so they were treated differently. cheesy cheesy

For Sancho, he must sign the contract to become an MD or lose the position. However, for Foden, he can become the MD for18 solid months before signing the MD contract. grin cheesy

This is another reason why women should take enough Folic acid during pregnancy - any inadequacy and the child starts to display this level of incoherent, inconsistent twaddle. grin cheesy
Very poor strawman.
Sancho was offered a contract and told he will feature in the first team. Sancho said put it in writing then I will believe you. MCFC refused and Sancho refused to sign the contract. Is that hard? Don't forget this proves Sancho was indeed promoted which is what brought us into this. Reply with insults, that is all you are really good for.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Android17: 9:52pm On Aug 10, 2021
Illimitable:
You made the claim before finding a junk article that partially supports the same claim. grin cheesy

Of all the websites to bring up as evidence, you cited MEN?

You are a charlatan. cheesy grin
When the veracity of a claim cannot be ridiculed, a weak debater tries to ridicule the source.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Android17: 9:34pm On Aug 10, 2021
Illimitable:
You are a möron!

All players are not the same? Really?

After lying to us for hours that had Sancho signed his contract, it would have been the gateway to the preseason tour(promotion) and his refusal to sign was the reason Pep didn’t take him to preseason, you have the audacity to say all players aren’t the same?

You are a brainless charlatan. grin cheesy
So you can't answer my question? Good. See the highlighted portion, I did not make the claim, an article did so. Remember?

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Android17: 9:27pm On Aug 10, 2021
Illimitable:
[s]Your stupidity knows no bounds. You have reduced this whole argument to your poor use of English.

Look at the sentence again and stop disgracing your school. An agreement was thought to be imminent - This simply means City thought there was an agreement but Sancho backed away from whatever psychotic idea City thought they had.

In short, there was never an agreement(at least, none on Sancho’s side of the table). City only felt so. If there was an agreement, it would be on paper(Sancho’s signature with wet ink).

Meanwhile, why were the steps taken for Sancho’s promotion not existent with Foden and Diaz?

Can you answer this question and nail your own coffin so I can debate more important people on this thread?

You died when you linked Sancho’s contract to his promotion. Foden/Diaz proved contracts and promotion are two different entities.

I bet you wish you could take that back.

Bloody charlatan. grin[/s]
What agreement was thought to be imminent? Stop with the useless whataboutisms. All players are not the same and all camps are not the same so asking me about Foden and Diaz just shows you have lost big time on this and are trying to change the narrative to something else.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Android17: 9:14pm On Aug 10, 2021
Illimitable:
No no no, don’t be stupid.

He didn’t wish to be a City player “any longer”.
L grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin L. Provide where in the screenshot this was implied. I am waiting.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Android17: 9:13pm On Aug 10, 2021
Illimitable:
“An agreement was thought to be imminent……”

City thought they had an agreement. I am not insulting the article. I am insulting your cognitive and deductive reasoning. cheesy grin
MCFC thought an agreement to Sancho committing to his offered contract [not his being a MCFC player]. grin grin The article clearly shows that they are referring to his offered contract. Please, try another lie. grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Android17: 9:11pm On Aug 10, 2021
Illimitable:
Your use of English is terrible.

Sancho “backed away” cos he wished to no longer be an employee of Man City. QED.
Your own screenshots. Do you see the phrase "any longer"? It shows you that he had considered the contract but did not want to - any longer. Remember your own screenshot shows you that an agreement [concerning the 30,000 GBP contract] that was thought to be imminent fell through because Sancho backed away. Yet an intellectual superior skipped all that to say . . . nonsense. grin

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Android17: 9:06pm On Aug 10, 2021
Illimitable:
Your use of English is terrible.

Sancho “backed away” cos he wished to no longer be an employee of Man City. QED.

120 hours later, you still haven’t told us why the steps taken for Sancho’s promotion didn’t apply to Diaz and Foden.

That was where you died - everything else you have typed is just saving face.

I’m your intellectual god. grin
L grin grin grin grin grin grin L. I am literally using your own article. This is funny. Your article says he backed away from the contract he was offered and you say he backed away from being a MCFC player. I expect you to insult your own article now.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Android17: 8:41pm On Aug 10, 2021
Illimitable:
The “backed away” phrase was used because he was expected to sign.

What kind of deductive reasoning is this you are displaying? Sancho was a City player through and through. If he rejected any contract, it means he was not going to be a City player going forward thus the phrase back away.

You went to a restaurant, asked for the menu, picked rice and stew, food was served and you changed your mind that you don’t want the food again, you have backed away. You don’t have to start eating the food before one could say you backed away.
L grin grin grin grin grin grin grin L. The reason your analogy works is because you had initially COMMITTED to eating rice and stew. Which means you wanted it before. Sancho had not made up his mind to leave, therefore QED. Your own argument defeats you. I don't have time for your weak attempts at deflecting from the crux of the issue.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Android17: 8:13pm On Aug 10, 2021
Illimitable:
You are a pathological liar, bros.

There’s no parallel here. The Athletic simply said Sancho and Foden are ambitious brats but Foden was more grounded because of his Manchester background and because his family are all city fans while Sancho was impatient.

By the time the contract was tabled, Sancho had made up his mind that he wasn’t going to wait to get a cameo in a dead rubber game against Bournemouth.



I couldn’t answer that because there’s no evidence that actually happened . I scoured over 30 articles on The Athletic about Sancho’s contracts and none of the articles wrote anything like that because it’s unreasonable.

You scooped that from MEN - a junk sports media designed for society degenerates like yourself so they don’t feel left out about the happenings in world football. There’s no way a 17 year old would insist the number of appearances should be claused in his contract in a club as massive as Man City.

The MEN article was probably written by a lunatic like you to make Sancho look bad. A ploy club’s PRs had always used to settle the fans that might be agitated that Sancho was lost. “It’s not our fault, guys. We tried everything but that boy was unreasonable.”

I remember Ronaldinho also wanting a Helipad before coming to Man Utd. You have to be the biggest idiöt on the planet to believe such crap. Sancho never asked for that, he wasn’t going to sign for City because Pep took too long to play him in the senior team.




The mind of a lunatic. grin

The first thing a very good psychologist would have noticed about you is that you suffer from acute psychosis. You are reading/seeing things that didn’t happen.

I have asked you to tell me why Foden got promoted to the senior team before his contract was up - you cannot answer. I hope you haven’t forgotten how you drew a parallel by comparing Sancho’s contract to the role of a managing director. grin

You lied to the whole world Sancho’s contract guaranteed his promotion and if that’s the case, why didn’t Man City wait until Foden’s contract was signed before taking him to a preseason tour.

You are a blithering idiöt!
In March 2017 "his mind was made up" but in July 30 2017 "he backed away". L grin grin grin grin L.
You only "pull back" and "stop negotiations" if you were moving forward or negotiating.
Question, why did he "back away"? Because a problem could not be resolved. What problem? Another article spelled it out.
You have now gone on to attack that article - and you call others lunatics. L grin grin grin grin L.
All your stupid questions will not obfuscate clear facts. You said prove he was promoted I gave 3 reasons.
1. Announcement by CEO and Pep 2.) His contract 3.) The pre-season tour. You ignored all and said as long as he did not play during the season he was not promoted. I asked you how he would have played when he left before the season begun?
You hopped back to contract - then I showed you how he, in numerous articles, said the issue was about regular playing time. One article said he wanted it included into his contract - proving to you that he did not want a gentleman's agreement - he did not want the long game that Harry Kane is currently facing.
PS: There are no 30 articles concerning Jadon leaving City on the athletic. L grin grin grin grin grin L. It is easy to prove as well but I digress.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Android17: 7:20pm On Aug 10, 2021
Illimitable:
You are a blithering idiöt..

You said Sancho’s contract was the offer that he was guaranteed to be promoted that summer and he would have been promoted had he accepted the offer in March 2017. So how come Foden was “promoted”(taken to preseason) before he was given an offer?

I am asking you this question to destroy your earlier point that Sancho’s contract is tied to his promotion, that’s a lie you managed to put together cos you are a very stupid person during an argument. You even went as far as comparing it to the role of Managing Director - characteristic of a room temperature IQ in display.

If indeed contracts are tied to promotion, City would have waited until Foden’s contract was up in 2018 before giving him promotion(taken to a preseason tour) - just like you stupidly lied about Sancho. That wasn’t the case.

As for Foden not asking for anything or playing the long game, that’s understandable. He was born in a family of City fans and he’s a local boy. He knew sooner than later that his chance would come.

Sancho signed for Watford at age 8, left his family house at age 11 in Kennington to board at Harefield academy in Uxbridge. He has always been in a hurry to get things done. He was only 13 years of age when he was playing against boys of 16 years of age at Watford academy.

He was never the type to stay stagnant. He was too ambitious for that and by the time he turned 15, he told Watford he was going to join Man City. So what part of his previous behavioral traits gave City the audacity to keep him waiting in the fringes before sending him to the deep waters?

City should have known he was not going to wait for long - and they should have pushed him to at least appear in a dead rubber game in 16/17, they didn’t and they lost him.



You must be very stupïd to be holding a MEN article as the gospel as per what happened with Sancho. There’s a reason such articles are easily accessible to moröns like you: they are not properly researched.

According to the Athletic, Sancho was already impatient before the contract offer was presented to him. This is why you will never win an argument with me - because you research from junk articles and you use it as a crutch to debate your intellectual superiors.

Get the fück outta my face, you despicable cünt! grin
I used your own screenshot, analyzed each sentence and showed you how the athletic article paralleled with all the other stories - it is only the one made up in your self-absorbed, deluded and conspiratorial mind that differs.
I asked you why Sancho would want the number of appearances he would have in the first team, written into that contract if that contract was not sold to him as a promotional one. Until you answer the question, you have nothing to stand on.
Win an argument with you? grin grin grin grin You, who have conceded that Sancho was promoted? grin grin grin grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 3:17am On Aug 10, 2021
Amoto94:
Chelsea’s net spend over the last five years (£230m) has been £392m less than Manchester United (£622m), and £388m less than Manchester City (£618m).

We also have a lower figure in that time than Arsenal (£331m), who’s net spend has been over £100m more.
Copied
patrickmuf:
Pep has outspent his rivals and that's a fact...Net spend...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Android17: 3:18am On Aug 08, 2021
Illimitable:
Look at this idïot.

You have been lying to us that Sancho’s contract was tied to his promotion. Even after you were told Foden signed his contract in Dec 2018 AFTER he was promoted in the summer of 2017, the penny still didn’t drop for you?

Every young player has an academy scholarship. It’s totally different to what we are discussing. Don’t muddy the waters with your stupïdity. Sancho was offered £30,000 per week contract in March 2017 - you told us that contract was tied to him being promoted - which he turned down.

If the contract was the promotion, how come Foden was promoted before signing his own contract in December 2018? Can you not see the foolishness in your logic? grin

So let me get this straight - You claim Sancho’s contract in March 2017 was the promotion offer. So Sancho was given an offer before promotion but Foden was given a contract after promotion in 2018?

You are a disgrace to your lineage. grin cheesy
I have patience for slow people.
Jadon -2015 scholarship to expire 2018, so offer him the best contract possible and announce promotion 2017 before Bosman rule can kick in. Phil Foden - 2016 scholarship to expire 2019 so offer him a contract 2018 before Bosman rule (announce promotion to first team July 2017).
Do you notice how Foden does not ask for playing time in his contract in 2018 like Jadon did? That is how 2 different human beings behave - one player was willing to play the long game, the other was not.
Now that your deflections have flopped bad again, please answer: Sancho "already made up his mind" to leave in March 2017 yet he waited till after MCFC refused to include playing time in that contract late July 2017 to reject it - why? See reference below.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Android17: 11:00pm On Aug 07, 2021
Illimitable:
Football contract isn’t for an MD position. It’s to tie him down for a certain number of years and retain him as an employee.

Sancho was offered a contract - the contract didn’t signify he was being promoted. They were just keeping him in ice for the foreseeable future.

If you have any IQ, you would notice that Diaz & Foden weren’t given any contracts that year but they ended up going for City’s preseason.

In actuality, Foden didn’t sign his contract until December 2018(£30,000 per week). Sancho was offered his contract around March 2017. grin

A contract is a contract, it’s got nothing to do with being promoted. I brilliantly led you to this cul-de-sac so you can “unalive” yourself in the presence of everyone. grin

Joe Hugill, Charlie McNeill, Woolstoon all have contracts at Man Utd, they are nowhere near being promoted. Instead of you to sit and learn when your superiors are dropping gems, you are puffing chest like an orangutan. grin
If only you will research properly rather than reply capriciously all the time. Sancho was signed to the academy scholarship in 2015, Phil was signed 2016. See the underlined and keep deceiving yourself. The only reason he wanted assurances "written" into the contract is because they had verbally told him what the contract signified. If your conspiracy nonsense was anything to go by, don't you think Sancho would have rejected that contract since March - you said he was offered? L grin grin grin grin grin L

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Android17: 9:22pm On Aug 07, 2021
Illimitable:
Says the plonker that is equating giving contracts to a player to his promotion. grin cheesy

If you are dafter than this, you would be a pawpaw fruit. grin cheesy
When a company offers a member of staff "here is the contract for the MD position, sign it and become the MD". Whether the person accepts it or not is immaterial. It proves that the company did promote said member of staff. You tried to argue that Sancho was never promoted and now you have just conceded that he in fact was. It took you how many posts to come to the understanding I got in a little less than a millisecond? Mr. Intelligent. grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Android17: 9:19pm On Aug 07, 2021
Illimitable:
This fool won’t stop exposing himself as an idïot. What sarcasm are you talking about? Sancho had made up his mind before anything was offered.

City offered him a contract and they thought an agreement was in order. Sancho didn’t take the offer because he had made up his mind to move on before then.

You are a disgrace to your lineage. grin
Like I have maintained. Invectives to mask the lack of substance. Here is a little lesson for you. 1.) Backed away - you cannot back away from something you never considered. If he never considered it he would have rejected it. 2.) what seemed to be a "negotiating" tactic - negotiation shows contemplation, deliberation etc. It means Sancho's mind was not made up. 3.) "Insurmountable" problem - a problem incapable of being overcome. Sancho had one issue that MCFC could not sort out for him. 4.) Long game - I asked you if you knew what the idiom meant but you replied with insults. Sancho did not want to play the odd game here and there (like Phil Foden had to do) he wanted to be more of a regular and MCFC were not going to guarantee that. Which is what I have been saying - you simply re-quoted me and insulted yourself for re-quoting me.

PS: Here is the kicker, Mr. Intelligent said Sancho did not take "the offer". What offer? The offer of a contract showing he had been promoted to the first team. Can Mr. Intelligent read that sentence again? You have just accepted that Sancho was promoted - he just did not take it. Yet you have many posts filled with descriptions of yourself, disagreeing with me that Sancho was promoted. L grin grin grin grin L

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