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smartsoft:
Too much of mr nice guy gets me into trouble with ladies must i be a bad guy yet they want a perfect relationship. if u pretty nice, they take you for granted and all that!!! can't just see myself playing gurls not working for me!!! *Straight face*

are you always the 'agreeable' guy?if yes then you really will have issues with ladies.

wesley80:
@Asha,
Your bolded portion on the article on Ndokwa/Ukwuani history refers;
It wld be perfectly normal to find folks with Igbo or Igala origin in Aboh but to fully understand what that means u'd have to understand what it means to be an "Aboh man". Aboh is made up of the Umudei and the Ndiche with the latter further split into the Ndiche ukwu and Ndiche nta. The umudei are the direct descendants of the founder of the kingdom and by default Princes and potential "Omordi's" and are the ONLY ones that can vie for kingship so long as their mother is NOT an Aboh princess. The Ndiche ukwu on the other hand consists of the descendants of die hard loyalists that joined the prince in his journey but not descendants of the Bini stool while the Ndiche nta are those that have lived for generations in Aboh but with varying roots. Only an Ndiche can hold the title of Iyasere (Iyase) ie PM, but on the condition that his mother MUST be an Aboh princess therefor there is full integration of all classes with everyone rightfully an Aboh person but with varying roots. So you see a section can claim to be from Israel and they'll be right, but the TRUE origin and genealogy of Aboh stands.
Amb Ralph Uwechue (yes your Generalissimo) espoused on this in one of his write ups online, I suggest u get busy. The more u know the better it gets. More to come.

beating around the bush as usual how does this relate with mbaise issue? look i have nothing against aboh kingdom or its history .just do not use conjecture on the history of a people you know nothing about.

wesley80:
It is ignorance that makes you an ignoramus. You plod along like an authority in all things history but you know nothing about a place that could easily have been your ancestral home! SMH.
If your name is mallam Tanko and I have a long lost uncle bearing same name with same features and I approach you calling you 'Uncle Tanko' na me go tell you why your Papa choose to call you, an Igbo Christian, Mallam Tanko? [b]Na you hold knife, na you hold yam. Prove to me that an administrative district of a people extremely picky about the name they bear formed in the 40's in the last days of a powerful kingdom and bearing its name had nothing to do with her. [/b]Prove it or press your 'mute' button.

all this yam and knife argurements self

This was actualised in 1941 and in 1942, a Treasury was opened at Enyiogwugwu court premises. It should be remarked that. Nkwogwu had lost its initial advantageous position owing to the.



destruction of government property by the: rioting women which had caused the then colonial divisional commissioner to curse Nkwogwu. In effect, what should have been located at Nkwogwu had to be transferred to another place. For its central location, and neutrality, the treasury was tral'Jsferred to Aboh in 1948. Aboh was found to be the most central and neutral location for all communities and clans of Mbaise.

http://www.freewebs.com/abohmbaiseimage/abohmbaiseimage.htm

johnsonnna:
THIS IS NOTING BUT ALLEGED WORK FROM PEOPLE THAT FAILED ENTIRELY BUT NEVER THE LESS THAT IS WHAT WE EXPECTED  FROM PEOPLE THAT LOOSED THERE OPPORTUNITY, ALL THIS CRITICISM IT'S OPENLY FROM THOSE WHO LOOSED THERE ELECTION THEY THOUGHT THAT HOLE WORLD HAS COME TO AN END, WHY DON'T YOU GUYS KEEP YOUR FAITH AND FOCUS YOUR  MIND IN GOD SO HE WILL HELP YOU TO JOIN THE WINING TEAM SOME OTHER TIME THAN TO START CARRYING CRITICISM AROUND.
BRAVO OCHENDO
OCHENDO BIRIKWAOOO
 

i will not be suprised if that guy is chikamnayyo 

wesley80:
@Asha,
Thanks for your feeble attempt. Any more feeble and you'd be without a spine! I honestly dont know which to address but let me say your Mbaise article is as shallow as shallow can be and it doesnt in anyway answer the pertinent questions. More to come.

please i am waiting oooo  .i hope what you desire to bring up will answer the perinent questions and not just rabble rousing as usual.  

wesley80:
 It is ignorance that makes you an ignoramus. You plod along like an authority in all things history but you know nothing about a place that could easily have been your ancestral home! SMH.
If your name is mallam Tanko and I have a long lost uncle bearing same name with same features and I approach you calling you 'Uncle Tanko' na me go tell you why your Papa choose to call you, an Igbo Christian, Mallam Tanko? Na you hold knife, na you hold yam. Prove to me that an administrative district of a people extremely picky about the name they bear formed in the 40's in the last days of a powerful kingdom and bearing its name had nothing to do with her. Prove it or press your 'mute' button.

you can make this statement if you arguing with onitsha,ogbaru,oguta or ogba people.mbaise is totally out of this kingdom you are talking about.i hope you know the geographical area in imostate mbaise is located?

A short history of Mbaise

By

Dr. Oliver Obioma Osuji

Mbaise is an amalgam of indigenous, autochthonous clans, connected by intermarriage, and situated in the heartland of Igboland. It occupies an approximate area of 404 square kilometers. The quiddity of Mbaise is that this homogenous group of more than 1000 persons per square kilometer is the most densely populated area in West Africa. The population of Mbaise as at 2006 was estimated to be 611,204 people (Agulanna, 2008).

Until the advent of European adventurers into Nigeria, the main source of income in Mbaise was subsistent agriculture. In Igboland, no centralized political system existed. The system of government depended largely on kinship relations and shared custom. The village group was the highest level of socio-political organization with the “Amala” exercising all power (Njoku 2003). The weekly gathering of the male family members around the fresh palm wine keg (“awuru-awu” or “manya-orie”) constituted the forum for discussing matters. Recently, the “Aladinma” of the autonomous community exercise judicial, legislative, administrative and executive powers and functions. Typically, life at the pre-colonial time is better understood by reading “Things Fall Apart” by Chinua Achebe.

The Aro Expeditionary Force (British) moved through Owerri and Mbaise in 1902. When the British Colonial Administration was introduced in the Southern Protectorate of Nigeria, the government established a native court at Nkwogwu Nguru in 1905 and built a residence for the Whiteman there. Dr. Rogers Stewart who was trespassing Mbaise got killed and in 1906, the “Ahiara Punitive Expedition” led by Captains Brian Douglas and Harold Hastings started the reprisal punitive massacre of people in the area. In 1927, the Colonial Government introduced taxation using warrant chiefs and court messengers to collect the taxes. These colonial agents became corrupt and used taxes as tools of oppression and suppression. When the taxes were increased in 1929, it triggered the Women Uprising which resulted in the destruction of the native court at Nkwogwu and the sacking of the Whiteman’s residence. Subsequently, other courts were established at Itu for Ezinihitte; Afor Enyiogugu for Agbaja; Obohia for Ekwerazu; Orie-Ahiara for Ahiara; and Uvuru for Oke-Uvuru.

On June 12 1941, Mbaise became a federated unit of five clans, namely, Agbaja (Nguru, Okwuato, Enyiogugu, Obiangwu, and Umuohiagu), Ekwerazu, Ahiara, Ezinihitte, and Oke-Uvuru. A common treasury was opened in Enyiogugu in 1942 and it was later transferred to Aboh in 1948. Obiangwu and Umuohiagu which were constituent parts of Agbaja pulled out in 1957 and joined Ngor Okpala. Unfortunately Mbaise was currently reduced to three local governments, namely Ahiazu (result of a merger of Ahiara and Ekwerazu), Aboh-Mbaise (carving out a part of Ezinihitte West and added to Agbaja), and Ezinihitte.

Between 1955 and 1958, Mbaise County Council under the Chairmanship of Honorable N. D. Ukah initiated two landmark development projects namely Mbaise Secondary School and Mbaise Joint Hospital (now General Hospital) both in Aboh. In 1954, Dr. Aaron Ogbonna who studied abroad became the first qualified medical doctor, returned home, and established the first private hospital in Mbaise in 1956. Prior to this time, any sick person who needed western medical attention either went to Holy Rosary Hospital, Emekuku Owerri or Methodist Hospital, Amachara in Umuahia.

http://ilmiworld.org/history_of_mbaise.html


wesley 80 from the bolded you can see that mbaise(translated to five clans) were made up of agbaja,ekwerazu,oke uvuru,ezinihitte and ahiara.the aboh mentioned here was simply a place where the common treasury was transfered to from enyiogugu.the aboh mbaise was simply a name of an area carved out to make an administrative unit and and not as a result of any aboh kingdom settlers.

secondly do aboh people practice okonko?

Ndokwa/Ukwuani History

The History of the Ndokwa/Ukwuani people is as interesting as that of any other African tribe. This is because no written account of it is available. Much of what is known of it, are facts handed down through oral traditions or some scanty detail and accounts as recorded by early European visitors to the area. The most inspiring thing about our history is the fact that I have never come across any Ndokwa/Ukwuani man or woman that believes s/he came from Mecca as is the case with the Bayangida and Oduduwa lineages in Nigeria. Sadly, such tribes in Nigeria that see no folly in propagating such myths are in fact some of the largest black tribes in Nigeria (and Africa). Further, the Ndokwa people have not claimed Israel as their ancestral home, as another big tribe in Nigeria would want us to believe. To highlight the flaw in the desire to seek glory elsewhere, we introduce excerpts culled from the history page of a neighbouring town –Ubulu Ukwu – in Anioma local government in Delta State, Nigeria. See the quotes below. “From Afor to Ubulu-Unor: In fact Ubulu oral tradition states categorically that the grand-parents of Ezemu migrated from Israel and settled at Ife hence Ezemu was often referred to as the king with long hairs – “Ezi Isi Iyomiyo”. From Ife Ezemu and his relations migrated to Afor a village in present day Ndokwa Local Government Area of Delta State.”

From http://www.ubulu-uku.com/mysite/origin.htm. Ironically, no Ndokwa town - including Afor - has corroborated this account of history. First and foremost, we are pure Africans and do not seek to establish our origins elsewhere. If the origins of mankind is in Africa as scientific evidence has shown, with pride and humility, the Ndokwa/Ukwuani people would want to be counted as one of the custodians of these primordial genes. Rather than fabricate our history, the Ndokwa people would want to concur with patterns described by Omole (http://lagosforum.com/comment.php): “The term “autochthonous” means native, aboriginal, indigeous, original. The available anthropological and archaeological evidence at our disposal makes it clear that the settlement of the Southern West Africa region is a recent event, going back not more than 5000 years.” And, from the early history of Nigeria (http://countrystudies.us/nigeria/4.htm): “The earliest known example of a fossil skeleton with negroid features, perhaps 10,000 years old, was found at Iii Ileru in western Nigeria and attests to the antiquity of habitation in the region. Stone tools, indicating human settlement, date back another 2,000 years. Microlithic and ceramic industries were developed by pastoralists in the savanna from at least the fourth millennium B.C. and were continued by grain farmers in the stable agricultural communities that subsequently evolved there. To the south, hunting and gathering gradually gave way to subsistence farming on the fringe of the forest in the first millennium B.C. The cultivation of staple foods, such as yams, later was introduced into forest clearings.”

Having put the history of the Ndokwa in the context of early Nigerian history, let’s now turn our attention to Ndokwa specifically. It is relevant to point out here that the portmanteau word "Ndokwa" generally used to refer to the people of the locality is a recent coinage. The word Ndokwa has the morphemes: NDO from the word "Ndo-simili", the people of the Niger and KWA from the word “Ukwuani”, for the Ukwuani speaking people of the lowland. The two peoples reside in the same proximity and share a near common history. They were both together during the ABOH division days in the then Midwest state of Nigeria (1960s-1970s). Recently, both regions were under one local government area (LGA) before the splitting up into Ndokwa West, Ndokwa East and Ukwuani LGAs. It is very confusing for those of us who grew up when we had one Ndokwa LGA to conceptualise the emerging distinction introduced by referring to some of the people in the region as "the Ukwuanis" and "the Ndokwas" as if they are totally different entities. Is there any justification in saying that someone from Utagba-Ogbe is an Ndokwa man while someone from Umutu an Ukwuani man? We must be wary of how we present this issue, lest an unnecessary distinction be introduced.

Originally, the people (all) were referred to as the Southern-Ika people before the creation and the re-creation of the local governments of the modern era. Our northern cousins where called the Northern Ikas and our neighbour/cousins from the Ika LGAs have held on to this name till date. Before the advent of the white man, the Ikas, Oshimilis and Aniochas –all in Delta State, Nigeria - were all called the "Enu-Ani" people (Upland people) and the "Ukwuani"(Lowland people) is used to refer to the Ukwuanis/Ndokwas. Prof. E. Isichie in one of her works referenced this fact.

Realistically, the inhabitants of the Ndokwa/Ukwuani areas are a mix of different peoples some with a strong claim to Benin/Edo ancestry while others lay claim to different origins. The Benin connections, a view held by a majority of Ndokwa/Ukuani clans cannot be rejected. Although, some intricate and complicated dimensions such as linguistics can be brought in, to test these claims. One must not forget the fact that the languages in Aboh (an Ndokwa town) and Benin are not related.

The Abohs and some other clans in the region claim to have left Benin around the 16th century or earlier, in the same wave of migration that established most of the Igbo-speaking towns west of the Niger and even Onitsha in the east. Egharebva, writes of a period in Aboh (circa 1730 -1750) where the ruling families had to accept emissaries from the Oba (King) of Benin during a dispute.

Surrounding, the Ndokwa/Ukwuanis are other Edoid groups i.e. the Urbobos, the Isokos, the Ijaws. Their influence is palpable amongst the Ndokwas/Ukwuanis socially and culturally. By the same token, it is not out of place to notice that some individuals in a number of clans claim lineage to these neighbouring tribes mentioned above especially those on the border. Group of towns sharing borders with neighbouring tribes including Abbi, Emu, Onyia, Ushie and Obiaruku have inhabitants tracing their origins to Urhobo,Isoko, Ijaw lands.

Furthermore, a good number of Ukwuani/Ndokwa towns of including Afor, Emu, Amai, Utagba-Uno, Onicha-Ukwuani claim to have been founded by immigrants from Benin. Onicha is a variant of the word "Onitsha" and is not a coincidence to have the original inhabitants of Onitsha (in Anambra State) holding on to the same story of King Chime from Benin as its forebear. There are four Onitshas known today i.e. Onicha-Olona, Onicha Ugbo, Onicha-Ukwuani and Onitsha mili (the popular one). They all share the Benin migration story. What should be of import to us is, when did these migrations take place, and the second question: Did these new arrivals meet some other people indigenous to the land/locality? If so, who were they? It is indeed a tall order to to try to establish these facts because there is an innate aberration in history known that man would always, at all costs, seek to associate with greatness, fame, glory and so on. This, in our case might have robbed us of the information that might helped us pieced together our past history more accurately.

The powerful nature and conquering role of the old Benin Empire might have influenced many clans favuoring this connection, in the process, either knowingly or otherwise suppressing some vital information. As one author, Rev. Okologu (History of the Ukwuani people) pointed out in his work, there are however different extractions in our land – Ndokwa area. For example, some sections of the Abohs believed that they are direct descendants of people from Benin while others look across the Niger into the Igbo hinterland as their origins; yet, some even look far up the Niger to Igala homeland as their ancestral land. It is worthwhile to bring this fact to the fore. What cannot be disputed is political power that the Aboh kingdom held in the past. The kingdom stretched from the fringes of Agbor town (Ika) in the present day Delta State to Ogba (Rivers state), also covering all the Ogbaru region of Anambra State. At the height of its power, the Kingdom of Aboh even had emigrants leaving to populate other parts of old Nigeria. There are quarters in Itsekiri land that claim to have forebears from Aboh town.

got this from another forum.the bolded are quite interesting.for the last bolded it is known that some parts of rivers and ogbaru and onitsha in anambra have somethings in common with aboh kingdom but wesley 80 do not put mbaise into it.mbaise is totally different.

Nchara:
Where I come from, you hardly find[b] community agricultural land.[/b] Every arable lands, even forests, are privately owned

what i mean is unused land not necessarily agricultural land.

Onlytruth:
Posted by: abouzaid
hehehe!
I support abouzaid on this one. BTW I don't think there is scarcity of land in Igboland for agriculture.
There may not be enough for wastage  but that's it! I don't buy this scarcity of land in the East theory one bit.
Large tracts of land are lying idle in Anambra, Enugu, Ebonyi (the areas I'm very familiar with). I don't know about Imo and Abia areas.
I'm also eying farming in the East, and I will find more than enough land for it!

anambra is a bit more thickly populated than imo and abia so it is the same thing.however you know how land issues are in the south east.you really have to negotiate with the owners(both individual and communities) to get land there.

for the christians here how will you feel as you enter a bus an islamic cleric enters the same bus with a megaphone and starts blaring that unless you submit to allah through mohammed that you will not be saved?

jason2010:
Yes it is

four months?how am i not sure the guy is not dead.how come millitary personel have not dealth a blow on the boy?millitary guys do take things like that likely.

jason2010:
The same army captain that was slapped by the Governors son, later on came back with some miliary personnel and dealt with the governors son. Then weeks after all that, the Captain was kidnapped, and hasn't been seen since 4 months plus.

is it the same army guy that was kidnapped some time ago in ohafia that has not been seen?

chino11 logs out and igboamaka logs in.what a patethic fellow

wesley80:
@Asha
Bia, i'm tired of hearing this your call for links. If u so desperately need one, come and wiretap my arsse and you'll have one direct from source!
If a people residing in an Ukwuani town speaking flawless Igbo and practicing pure Igbo culture does not arouse your curiousity then i dont know why you're on this thread. I'm not here to prove the origin of Mbaise people is in Delta state but simply to highlight the influence a supposedly small town had on Igbo's not just those along the Niger but far inland. Give me proof to believe otherwise and i'll shut up, else u should shut it and allow me make my point! Aboh IMHO remains the most understudied ancient kingdom so unless you're ready to commission a study just keep quiet and listen. No professor can teach you what you're learning free of charge from me!

for the bolded then why some are saying that they are not igbo?

you are wasting time telling me to shut it because only a fool will believe your tale without something to back it up.you make a controversial statement without back up you expect people to swallow it hook line and sinker.do you you think we are fools?

listen to what?aboh kingdom?arousing my curiosity?the people saying that ukwuani(aboh) are igbos do you think they do not know how the culture and language there shouts igbo?so why the denial?to feel superior?

aboh kingdom only had influence on those along the niger and non inland.

stop plucking facts from the air.

wesley80:
^^^ And you think you do? Just because a truth is inconvenient to you guys does not make it false. Now read on;
In todays Aboh there's a street called 'Ogbe Ukwu', walking through it you'd think you were walking through a street in the heart of Onitsha! Not in terms of architecture but the language spoken! The people that live here speak pure IGBO!, they have or used to have a special diety (ikenga) they worshipped in the days past and still do but had to recently suspend certain aspects of such worship due to some conflict which i dont want to go into. Now I'm talking about just one street in an entire Community. To put this in perspective, the community comprises of five quarters (made up of the five sons of the founder of the community) but pure Igbo culture exists and persists in one of those quarters, why? Just ponder on it.
Safe to assume most of you are not kids but let me say here that anyone from Osemele, Onitsha, Idemili and Oguta - yes Oguta and a few other places in todays Igboland that knows nothing about Aboh and their ties to the ancient kingdom knows NOTHING about their history. How many of you know that Zik was an Aboh Olinzele(chief) and at his demise the then Obi of Onitsha was fined for proceeding with the burial of an Aboh title holder without consulting the Aboh people? Fable? Guess again!
How many of you know that one of the greatest Igbo musicians - Ali Chukwuma (Any adult in here?) was an Aboh man and his tomb is in Aboh today? The more you know the better it gets! More to come.

are you trying to link aboh mbaise to aboh kingdom here or are you giving us an expose on aboh kingdom 

give us a link that aboh mbaise was formed by aboh migrators and not all this stories you are writing here.

is anybody doubting the existence igbo language been spoken in aboh,the existence of ali chukwuma as a musician?

is this about zik?

the bolded towns are withing a geographical area.do you know the actual place aboh mbaise is located?

you are saying that if you are in aboh you would think you are onitsha because of the language spoken.do you know that mbaise language is very very different from the igbo lanuguage been spoken in onitsha? do you know that you would probably not understand 40% of what a typical aboh mbaise person is speaking?

do you think all igbos east of the niger speak the same way?do you know some igbo languages are mutually unintelligible?

Nchara:
Enugu boosts mechanized farming with 27 tractors worth N79m
http://www.vanguardngr.com/2011/06/enugu-boosts-mechanized-farming-with-27-tractors-worth-n79m/

guy you and i know that this gesture does not really mean much.

abouzaid:
@cyberg, i have the antidote for a north vs east fight it's just i hope the yorubas won't cash in and derail the thread. My intentions is purely to seek information before deciding to either stay back in the north to invest in large scale storage of grains or to go down east to try my hands on commercial palm and plantain plantations. The north offers less return and less risk while the east is a practically uncharted territory agric wise but i'm in love with the east because it's a more ideal place to start a family even in a rural setting due to presence of quality schools for children even in the rural areas where as education is a joke here in the north. @nchara must everything be about tribal supremacy? I studied at nsukka and i saw low yielding wild palm trees not modern plantations with improved breed.most of what i saw as regards other crops were subsistence farms manned by old old folks because their children have all trooped to the city. Go to onitsha and u would those abakaliki and nsukka youths hawking gala rather than farming in their villages, this poor youths are also the ones more likely to engage in crimes or victimised by the onitsha police. Why can't they just go home and practise modern agriculture? And believe me the east have more than enough land to engage in modern mechanized agriculture. Nsukka is mostly thinly populated with a large mostly unoccupied jungle stretching from ninth mile diversion upto enugu ezike into kogi state. I know what i am talking about @Ezeuche my brother a large percentage of the yams consumed in the east is hauled in from the middle belt mostly from benue, taraba and niger states and it's nothing to be ashamed of since they get their palm oil from the east even though i have seen palm trees doing well in these states yet we too have failed to make use of it

it seems your intentions are good but your title does not seem to say so.

there is only one thing i have to add.most of those lands that seem unoccupied are owned by people or communities.you cannot just walk in there and start farming because it is 'empty'.you have to negotiate with them to acquire it

wesley80:
I dont have to back up nada! The name speaks for itself. As a matter of fact the onus is on the deniers to prove how they acquired their name. Coincidence? Oh pls spare me!

off course you do not have proof.pulling facts from the air like any normal person would



chai see how you are trying to twist the argurement to your favour.

you said

More to come.

so where is the more now

deniers?how can one deny what is non existent?

haha maybe one day one mad man will come to nairaland type that poeple from nguru mbaise also migrated from nguru in yobe and ask the deniers to show proof.

or maybe people from benin will start benin republic was founded from people that migrated from benin kingdom

lucenzo:
ba.stard op. on the average scale, the igbos are the richest in Nigeria. You hardly find an totally wretched igbo man.

ermm your comment has no bearing to what the op is talking about.

wesley80:
^^ Nice try, but it wont fly! U assume I picked up an atlas and guessed any town with the Aboh prefix originated from Aboh right? WRONG! Even before I knew of an Aboh Mbaise I already knew there were Aboh migrants somewhere in Imo state just as I knew Aboh people had founded an Orogun town (a fact Orogun people readily accept) unfortunately the once revered ancient Aboh kingdom has nearly faded into oblivion and it has become somewhat condescending to have an Igbo town agree it has its roots somewhere in Delta State, understandable but please I'd love to know the origin of that name. Deny all u want but history only recognizes one once powerful kingdom called Aboh that only had borders with the old Benin Kingdom her ancestral home, all others were conquered lands. More to come.

look the onus is on you to provide the proof or link that aboh mbaise was formed by aboh migrants simple.you made that comment first so back it up.

[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=806778.msg9588008#msg9588008 date=1321661767]Really, really, really, bad idea. Terrible idea. Cannot overemphasize how bad an idea this is.[/quote]why do you say so?

wesley80:
So why didnt they just answer Mbaise? Why Aboh Mbaise? Ever heard of Aboh-Orogun in delta state?Another town founded by Abohs? Fact may be watery, Yeah but it is fact nontheless!

very funny and i may add ignorant answer.
i hope you know that aboh mbaise was created in the 90s from a big mbaise lga?from this former mbaise lga came aboh mbaise,ahiazu mbaise and ezinihitte mbaise.if you doubt it google is your friend.

so if aboh migrators came and formed aboh mbaise(created in the 90s) then where did ahiazu and ezinihitte people migrate from? ahiazu kingdom and ezinihitte kingdom?i hope you know people of these 3 lgas speak the same mbaise language(very little variations).so why didn't all answer aboh mbaise?why did some answer ahiazu and some ezinihitte?

it is like saying Onicha people in ebonyi state or Onicha nwe nkwo community in ezinihitte mbaise migrated from Onicha anambra state.

please give a link that aboh mbaise people migrated from aboh kingdom and not this wishy washy story you are giving here

wesley80:
No I cant.

why not?

you cannot make that claim just like that.i have seen the thread you were arguing with chyz before about this and the only thing you kept saying there was why didn,t they just answer mbaise instead of aboh mbaise.that is no fact on its own and it just highly watery.

wesley80:
Yeah thanks. That's evidence that a different people existed in the land you now call yours before you arrived. You never had kings did you? Naive mofo!
While cultural affinity makes it convenient and acceptable to a large extent to classify Ukwuani's as Igbo's, they are not necessarily Igbos. Comprehende?

Yeah that was me and I stand corrected. Prove me wrong! Dude, you sound so ignorant i dont know where to start. It's unfortunate you know so little about a people you claim as yours and I'll tell you what I told you when we had the Mbaise argument; do a research on the Aboh kingdom and come back and challenge me.

Yes o, as someone that knew his roots and was proud of them I took delight in denying my igboness until i grew up (at least in my eyes) i realized that nwene bu ike and strife and division would get us nowhere. It didnt matter how much i denied, my igboness was obvious and it wasnt worth fighting as long as there was mutual respect and recognition of who we are. The superiority complex displayed by people like you and the level of your ignorance would inevitably reveal the truth.
As i consider you to be 'nwenem' i'll ignore your last sentence but i have to say 'Ozoemena', or as we say where i'm from; Uberegede!

can you reference an article to the bolded?that people from aboh mbaise are from aboh kingdom in delta state?

manmustwac:
YES! You can't see the problem because you and the masses are the problem. You are being fed with sweet opium which is fed to you and the masses by your pastors whenever you visit your church. As long as you and the masses continue to enjoy the sweet opium and wait for Jesus to come down from heaven Nigeria will never ever progress.

mehn that Barkin Zuwo must have been one hell of an illiterate.

unfortunately abians would have to wait till 2015 to make any change.they lost that opportunity this year.

i have always wanted to enter this TRADE called senate - Senator alphonsus igbeke

nnaji obed:
I disagree with this write up and I suspect foul play from this writer. Governor T. A Orji is a good man, he cant be faulted for supporting a policy that emanated from the people of Abia.

[quote author=C. Akomas link=topic=803648.msg9575992#msg9575992 date=1321525430]I, Chris Akomas is in total disagreement with this article by Mr Dan. I feel really sad that journalism has been condemned to the trash bin by those who are trained to safeguard the profession. I worked as a deputy the Governor for the Governor Orji, I understand this policy of non indigenes was first initiated by the ex Governor Orji Uzor Kalu OUK. Please I urge everyone of us to stop castigating the present Governor, He is a good man. I have never insulted him and I will always keep my respect for him as I know he is a good man.

Thanks[/quote]

Chygoz05:
Dear Mr. Dan Onwukwe,
Its a pity that as much as you are educated and enlightened, you could resolve to writing what you think and feel. You have tactfully deceived the public by deliberately hiding the truth from them. As much as i know, six of my friends, formerly in Abia Civil Service are now working in their respective states. We all know what happened was a transfer of service which did not only happen in Abia State. It has become very important for even roadside hawkers to read the dailies and be abreast with happenings around them, Dan Onwukwe inclusive; lest they open their mouths and say rubbish. Let us learn to strike a balance when reacting to issues and stop being biased. Governor T. A. Orji has come to be The Executive Governor of Abia State and he has come to power ONLY through the infinite grace of God. Ill sayings can attract God's wrath because Ochendo did not just become our Governor without His consent. I wish every body well.
Chigozie

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