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bandit c you have now come up with own generalisation now?you are now using abagworo as an eg of an imo man no be so?imo people are cunning right?take time there!

Kobojunkie:
And this increase happened within the same period our[b] GDP was recorded to have grown an average of 7% each quarter ooo?[/b] Una see Abracadabra??

according to oil earnings.hardly reflects in the real sector

NRI PRIEST:
Asha80, explain your doubt. Wait until you see how those people are discusing the greatness of Anambra! I know those people more than you can ever know. Upper iweka road was named after the great Obosi king IWEKA. That orinmili state is a freaking joke,go and mention it at ohanaeze Ndigbo. Onitsha people are settlers,hence ana Onicha aburo nke fa. Ogbaru people on the other side are decendants of Nri,but Onicha and Ogbaru people do have similar dialects and even Obosi and Onicha almost speak identical Igbo dialects. Most of these people brewing division in Anambra has not the slightest knowledge of these people.
Do you know tha Oyi people of Anambra are OLU  people? Its more complicated than you think!! Say what you know,guys.

relax.see i was suprised when i was watching nta here in nigeria when i saw a delegation that went to the senate demanding orinmili state.i thought it was a bunch of political jobbers until i saw that the delegation was led by Igwe alfred Achebe himself.


http://www.vanguardngr.com/2011/08/ohanaeze-reiterates-demand-for-orimili-state/

http://odili.net/news/source/2011/aug/29/7.html

Obiagu1:
My town is relatively big. This is as far back as my dads generation though many of those in my generation tend to marry from wherever.
In my village, my dad's family where the only ones that didn't marry from the town and many are not happy with us.

Someone, not long ago, made a remark to my mum when my brother got married that she was sure I won't marry from my town also because our legs are outside

hmm this quite different from mine as the guys in my town hardly marry from within.this even stems from my granfather's time.non of my uncles married from within.

Obiagu1:
You talked of hegemony. When, who, where was such hegemony founded?
It pisses me off everyone some people will jump on Nri/Awka as if we did anything to them.
Nri/Awka was probably the last people that came in contact with the Europeans and how did we suddenly set the tone and you "sheepishly" followed?

Believe me, you have problem.

You talked about marriage, do you know that in my town, more than 80% marry within? Does it mean we are not the same as the neighbouring town?

This is how silly your argument is.

question on the bolded.80%? are you guys that many in your town?that is the only way i see that happening because where i am from i cannot see that happening lest you marry your cousin.

NRI PRIEST:
So, Abagworo in your warped mind you concluded that land disputes are basis to use and find our who  is related to who ? U are a very poisnous human being but I dont wanna place curse on you! So,Onitsha people  who call non-Onitsha Igbos "nwa onye Igbo" all of a sudden see an Ogbaru person as his brother Can you just listen to urself speak ? U sounded like someone who feed on human feces!!! Get outa here u disgusting son of a **ore. Stay away from whats not your business you atulu awusa. [b]Among all the squabbles between Onitsha people and other Igbos they would still prefer to be part of the Great Anambra Igbos! [/b]Obu onye fusili ebe ana echi ozo jebe ebe ana alu agwu?

not too sure about that

ChinenyeN:
I can't find a map for it, but Afigbo, Onwuejeogwu, etc. refer to it as the "Igbo sub-cultural zones or areas".
Over-reacting unnecessarily aren't you? The "north", "south", "east" etc. is nothing more than simple categorization. You should know this. It is just like how I am Ngwa, and you are Ukwuani; two separate and unrelated peoples, but as fate and oyibo design would have it, we're both categorized as "Igbo".

as you finding it difficult to find the map so also are others(not including peeps that have no access to internet).it is more like things we use to enforce an argurement

Abagworo:
There is oneness. The Edda, Onicha, Okposi, Ohaozara, Afikpo and Southern Ebonyi speak similar Igbo with Ohafia,Abiriba,Alayi. They all greet Ka or Jokwa.They believe they have ancient ties.

The Southern part of Abia which comprise Ngwa,Asa and Ndoki also have their own sense of oneness but still with suspect because of the overwhelming population of the Ngwa.

On the Orinmili issue.The Orinmili people already have a sense of being distinct.If you visit Anambra, you will notice that Onitsha and Ogbaru seem not to be in the State.Even the land disputes within conurbations like Nkpor and Onitsha and Obosi shows they are not the same people.In Aba which cuts across 5 local governments, one cannot hear say Osisioma people saying that they are not part of the Aba city but in Anambra you can never label a house in Nkpor or Obosi as Onitsha.

I am not even in support of creating clan based States like Orinmili.

i am not against that though as far as we change our structure and start running federalism the way it is supposed and not the nonsense we have at the moment

[quote author=alj_harem link=topic=804022.msg9572499#msg9572499 date=1321475530]LOL, if you think it is particular to Igbos then you must be joking.

I am yet to see any group in Nigeria that does not exhibit those trace.

Abagworo, I think it is something you cannot take away, Rather instead of talking to your friends about Igbos presidency and the state it should come from. I think you and others be it Imolites, Abia etc should all just give the other the ego right they want.

the polls would speak for themselves, isn't it ?[/quote]i do not even believe in that states as presently constituted.

Abagworo:
You seem not to understand the reason for my post.I just quoted an Ebonyi Nairalander.If you go through that thread you will notice a sense of distinctness on the part of Ebonyi and Anambra.For example an Ebonyi man could never have been a Governor when they were part of Anambra but an Ebonyi man was the 1st governor of Abia.That shows a sense of oneness between Ebonyi and Abia which they do not share with Anambra.They do not see Imo or Abia as oppressors.


This was exactly the same with Ikwerre in Rivers until they felt liberated with the war opportunity.

Why I am worried about this is because I often encounter Igbos making derogatory statement of other Igbos and feeling cool with it.I have been with them swearing that an Igbo from another State will never be a President, instead there will never be Igbo President. I'm not talking about Nairaland but real life issues.

at the first bolded quite frankly i do not see any oneness between ebonyi and abia.i wonder what chinenye will have to to that.at that time ogbannya onu was probably the strongest politician in the abia of then so it was not a suprise that he became governor then.

for the second bolded and from the way your argurement has been going i can easily guess that the people you are talking about are from anambra state.the funny thing about the whole thing is what if Orinmili state comes to fruition will there be not a sense of dinstictness btw the newly formed orinmili state and people that remain in anambra state or whatever name it chooses to call itself?

not doubting you though because i have seen some cretins that make such statements.

With what is obtainable in Ebonyi
and Anambra States presently, Anambra cannot see
the brakelight of Ebonyi state in the next ten to
fifteen years both in term of material and human
development

the bolded is for the joke section really with the governments presently in the two states.


also we should engage in this argurement without bringing states into the equation because those state are artificial settings that can be dismantled anytime

Abagworo:
nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-27608.0.html


nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-374332.0.html

I did not want to respond to this question but my
conscience could not allow me. This is because if i
dont do alot of people will be decieved. Firstly, all
fingers are not equal, secondly Ebonyi state is the
youngest state in the south-east. Thirdly Ebonyians
made up of old Enugu(Abakaliki zone) and Old Abia
(Afikpo zone) are victims of marginalization in their
old states. This is the main aim of the agitation of
state creation, government impacts were not felt in
the old Abakaliki zone. Their entitlements were taken
by their oppressors, this made them stagnant in
terms of material and human development. It is on
record that a lot of people claiming Ebonyi state
indigene are not from Ebonyi state, a lot of
schlolarship opportunities were traded to the highest
bidders. Their job chances were sold, given to other
people because nobody was speaking for them. If you
check through our security services, you will
understand what i mean.
Lastly ONYE-NGBU let me remind you that it was
what your fathers and grand fathers did to Ebonyi
Indigenes that made them lag behind but i have one
promise for you. With what is obtainable in Ebonyi
and Anambra States presently, Anambra cannot see
the brakelight of Ebonyi state in the next ten to
fifteen years both in term of material and human
development. Thank God, there was somebody in the
name of SANI ABACHA that liberated the Ebonyians
from the claws of evil men who were tormenting
them. Rest in peace ABACHA

i remember reading this comment in politics sometime ago but you know what ebonyi is still not pulling its weight now that it is on its own.who is stopping ebonyi from developing now?the truth is that these things are not clear cut as poeple might want to project it or did you not read about the protests in ebonyi recenlty because of little on developmental projects going on there?who is stopping them now?

eGuerrilla:
- Aminu Kano

Question: What differentiates the emasculated Nigerian youth and the Talakawas referenced above in the year 2011?   Nothing.

not too sure how aminu kano wanted to do that since that political structure in the north had been there hundreds of years before he was born?


[quote author=alj_harem link=topic=805041.msg9572248#msg9572248 date=1321472905]How I wish Awo were still alive! He would have understood. He knew the country well! - Ken Saro Wiwa[/quote]when did he say that?

ChinenyeN:
By the way, some of you get unnecessarily antsy over the mention of "north" or "south" or "eastern" etc. for no real reason at all. Why?

probably because there is no clear cut demarcation of them unless you can use a map and show them?

see guys Abagworo has a point in what he is saying but the problem is that it does not stop there.Within the clans this sort of of derision also happens.Even within villages it still happens.personally from experience the clan own or village own is even deadlier eg the ogbunka crises in orumba,aguleri/umuleri crises.meanwhile these two instances the people are probably from the same nri/awka stock.

i agree with Kengali on his opinion especially the umunna part but see where the issue is.Can the umunna stand as a government of its own in this era?

ebere1712:
Nigeria needs to train its citizens to build its own infrastructure. If we can't build our own infrastructures, we don't deserve to have any.

i feel we are past that

and to think that she was always saying she was very happy she did not marry a nigerian man because in her words that they are abusive and not romantic.

so what are the irreconcilable differences now?
nonsense

[quote author=Kilode?! link=topic=804199.msg9565679#msg9565679 date=1321396775]Hehn. .Ok. .But. . . . Is it by force to be Presido?. . .he fit comot nah.

Nigerian presidency is an at will employment. .you fit resign anytime. . . . . Sir [/quote]not holding brief for jonathan but when have we ever had a president that really angled to be president?shagari,obj(second term),yaradull?something must be wrong somewhere.

[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=804317.msg9565099#msg9565099 date=1321389684]Doesn't really matter too much, so long as you are born into wealth.

Assuming born into poverty or only just middle class, then a western country of some sort.[/quote]gbam

ak47mann:
^^^
His a celebrity and my friend too,i even meet him few weeks ago in PH when i was in nigeria

what d f does tis have to do with politics?

Ohaneze1:
For yoreoba dolts on this thread who never believed that Igbos are African Jews just like there is American Jews:

"On March 31, 1968: Biafran army won their biggest battle. by ambushing and destroying a 96-vehicle column of Nigerian soldiers with locally hand made bomb called [Ogbunigwe or bucket bomb]. The humiliating Abagana defeat to Nigerian soldiers prompted General Yakubu Gowon to remove Col. Murtala Mohammed as the General Commanding Officer of the Onitsha sector."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abagana

what has the bolded got to do with the thread?

Fashola Lifts Ban On Lekki Toll Collection print


Governor Babatunde Raji Fashola of Lagos State has lifted the suspension placed on the collection of toll on the Lagos-Epe expressway.

Announcing this during his budget presentation, Governor Fashola stated that he had formally lifted the suspension on the collecttion of toll on the expressway because government could no longer bear the huge financial outlay used in constructing the road.

Following this, the governor directed the Lekki Concession Company, LCC to fix a new date to begin the collection.

The government was forced to suspend the collection of toll on the expressway last year when residents of Lekki protested vehemently against the planned introduction.

Giving reasons for his action, Governor Fashola disclosed that the government had spent N4 billion this year alone in paying part of the toll which the people in the area refused to pay. He described it as a huge burden on the government.

“The politically motivated resistance to the commencement of toll collection on the Eti-Osa, Lekki-Epe Expressway means that your government had to part with N4 billion for year 2011 which could have been used to provide more schools, inner roads, hospitals and social needs in Eti-Osa, Ibeju-Lekki and Epe areas.

“This decision was sensible and necessary in order to maintain much needed and growing investor confidence in the Lagos economy, in order to maintain our credit rating and reduce our credit risk.

“It was critical to maintaining the stream of emerging investments required to create business opportunity and jobs for young people,” he said.

He added that “regrettably however, our financial realities cannot sustain such funding to the detriment of other developments that are crying out for funding in other parts of the state.

“It is undeniable that property values have risen in that area because of the road work on Eti-Osa-Lekki-Epe Expressway; we have also recently completed the Falomo ramp. It is only fair that the investors begin to collect their toll.”

“I accordingly lift the suspension on toll collection and leave the concessionaire to announce the date for commencement of tolling.”

Reacting to the lifting of suspension of toll on the expressway, Assistant Director, Contact and Mobilisation, Lekki Estate Resident and Stakeholders Association, LASA, Andrew Eretan, described the move as anti-social and anti-people, saying that the residents would resist the new

http://pmnewsnigeria.com/2011/11/15/fashola-lifts-ban-on-lekki-toll-collection/#comments

normal news

i have always viewed the igbo definition as people that are culturally similar and not not the same people.If you had read the the book 'Nigeria;Path to nationalism' you will no this.There has never been fusion per say.

[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=802174.msg9549824#msg9549824 date=1321221968]If it gets hot outside, won't the mud house get hot too?[/quote]it gets cool.it if gets cold outside it gets warm inside

[quote author=Ricky_Ross link=topic=802051.msg9549599#msg9549599 date=1321220254]Well said. So many guys are ignorant, they stay in their house and talk about states they have never visited before. Today is Sunday I am just returning from Owerri, you cant get hotel in Owerri from Friday to Sunday as all hotels are usually fully booked. Most Igbos in PHC, Abia etc flock to Owerri every weekend to jolly life. Hotel business is paying like cocaine in Owerri.[/quote]i wish another business can boom in owerri the way hotel business has been booming there for a long time now.

emmke:
ok asha. Thanks. The guy just hate us. And we are living in peace with southerners (igbos, yorubas, niger deltans) here. So suprising.

he is ibibio and seems to have issues with hausa,fulani and yoruba people.i think he does not distinguish hausa and middle belt.to him they are the same.you can guess if you have seen his comments on yakubu gowon.

emmke:
^man this is free fun, lol. Do u know how beautiful my land is? Why will i throw that away? Even your brothers are still living there. Those that can afford to live any where in naija. The mikel family are still there just so u know. Man, my land is more than worth dying for. Plateau the beautiful

wilywily is not igbo

jason123:


Does this mean Chime lied? Or is there a mix up somewhere. The gallery pix of those websites are the same as the ones posted here. . .

there is no lie.the story is true while the pics are fake.they are not the real pics.macjive has a way of putting fake pics to his stories

[quote author=Rhino.5dm link=topic=802649.msg9548884#msg9548884 date=1321214617]what do you expect from drunken fisherman? Retardinho is just silly to start a war of words with this revered icon. Foolish and confused Jonathan goatluck.
. .[/quote] what about Retarldo abeg you guys should take it easy

babaowo:
he will definitely deliver cos is not frm PDP! south west on the fast line,if others like make dem carry last,nah their own be dat.

oh lord such reasoning. na wao. amosun that was once in anpp, cpc and now acn?