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aktopgun:


before u say i dey ignore u, i am bearish on livestock at the moment actually. a downturn may come as early as tomorrow if i am to stretch my neck out on it (please do't cut it off )

havent seen the charts for today yet but roughly drawing my own suggests a hanging man on high volume (19.8m), after an uptrend. not cool!

Aktopgun, thank you plenty!
This one wey you are not very enthused RE: Dangote Sugar, I hope lesser beings like us are not sitting ducks.
Same applies to Flourmill of Nigeria, what is killing the price? Abi someone knows what the rest of us don't know?

Aktopgun,
Abeg what is ur view on Livestock?
Do you think there would be another downturn soon?
Thanks

@ All
What gives on FCMB?
I noticed the supposedly good result from thursday did not do them any favours pricewise on Friday.
Abeg what is happening? Should one buy some more now or should I wait longer?

RoughCut:

As you dey for top of Obudu ranch na im be say he go tey before Aktopcandle answer reach your side o

Roughcut!!!!
Me and you no get quarrel , so make you laugh me only jejely!
Obudu Ranch na my 2020 plan, na only When I grow like u and the other gurus before I go fit afford the high rates up there.

aktopgun:

Akatopgun, Akatopgun, Akatopgun! How many times wey I call you?
You are not been fair to me at all, two times I don put questions to you and you just ignore like say I be Obj's brother.
Haba na wetin I don? You dey leave the question of the person wey dey work for BR3 post code like you to answer questions from all over the globe. No be dem say Charity begins at home?
Abeg make your charity extend to me for BR3 like you abeg.

@ Akatopgun and All
Abeg, what is going on with Livestock? Should I sell now or should I ride the storm out?
I bought at 7 naira my people
Kind thanks in advance!

@Akatopgun,
Still waiting for your reply to my last post.
Look, I am becoming scared of the direction this forum is going. This is why I am going to ask you for the 2nd time, abeg point me in the direction of some entry level literature RE: TA and Candle gazing. I must add that I am not very numurate, thanks

As an aside, seeing that a good number of gurus are becoming wary of the manner of speech/behaviour on this forum, I wouldn't be surprised to hear that you are bailing out. It goes without saying that we may soon be saying RIP to this forum if the warring teen-like members do not sheath their swords.

@Akatopgun
Abeg what texts would you recommend for one who is keen on learning about TA and Candle gazing
More grease to your elbows for the attempt to put out the pestilence that has overtaken this forum. Abeg pple make una chill, it does not look good on our country if a non-Nigerian were to stumble onto this, hitherto great, forum and believe that we are true to stereotype.
Abeg,make una sheath the weapons.

Kobojunkie:

ok, but is your assessment based on his race?

Nope my assessment is not based on his race, I find that I am able to connect with him.
I am taken aback to hear people complain about his rhetoric and the hope he peddles, here is what one of his traducers, Bill Clinton, said in 2004 "If one candidate’s trying to scare you and the other one’s trying to get you to think, if one candidate’s appealing to your fears and the other one’s appealing to your hopes, you better vote for the person who wants you to think and hope"

@ 4play and others,
In the first place I came to the first post only because I wasn't sure of the Phillips in question. Trevor Phillips (spelling) is a cow and works for racial disharmony instead of racial harmony. I have never warmed to his way of looking at race-related issues, he has done more harm to race relations than BO could ever contemplate.
On the question of how BO would perform in office, I think it is too early to begin to judge a presidency that has yet to kick-off. On my part, I'd go with the guys who believe and hope BO would perform and deliver ultimately.

FAO Gurus (and learners like moi),
My pple who has a clue as to what is driving Cornerstone's price northward? Is it that it is fundamentally good? Or is the current obssession with Insurance stocks to blame? As per FCMB, what would you advise a brother who is holding a few ks of it to do right now?
Pls help this bros out!
Thanks in anticipation!

frankiriri:

Hi all.
I know I have been MIA. Na work pressure and an unfortunate accident way happen towatds the end of last year. My younger brother was gunned down. These issues has turned me to one of the silent readers.

Bros Frankiriri Sorry on the loss of your kid brother!
May his soul rest in peace! And may you guys pull through as you continue to trust in the Lord!

Democracy has won and that is what any African should applaud! For those of you worried about the person of Zuma, do not be afraid. Why do I say so? The same wave that has brought him to power would throw him out if he does not perform. This is why they rig you and me out of power every time we hold elections in this country, out votes must not stand because we would be tempted to remove them when we discover that they are there only to line their pockets. Do I particularly like Zuma or Mbeki, no!!!! But do I admire them, their party and their country? Of course yes, they have once again shown us (Nigerians) up for who we are.

@Wanajo,
Plenty of thanks to you and the other gurus for the great work you guys do here.
Is there any chance you would let me have you email address? Trust me, I am not going to email you on the spreadsheet thingy. I am keen on sounding you out on a different matter entirely, (admittedly it is related to the NSE). For starters, here is mine atamman2000 (at) gmail(.)com . I hope the altruism you have shown on this forum would come to fore again.
More grease to your elbows and, in fact, all your other joints

@All
Abeg, does anyone have a clue of what is happening to AP? What on earth is driving this price gain? Kind thanks for any tit bits.

Etin:

All requested forms have been sent.


@Crownvilla et al thank you for thanking me

Etin dear,
Abeg send me the forms for the Universal PP, my email is atamman2000 (at) gmail.com.
Please also include the LBIC form as well. Pls do you have the prospectus of these firms? I'd love to have a look at them as well.
Thanks for your generous attitude

LondonCool:

@jino,

Buying land is about who you know.I bought plots of land at the Parliamentary Village and Ikot Ishie for N450k (in 2006) whats the big deal there.My friend is the secretary of the Ikot Ishie Council and sells the land to whom he wants to.

My business partner is about to introduce me to the new Ntoe of Big Qua Town with a view of picking up some plots from him at Akim Qua (Unical). If you are going to venture into Real Estate development in Calabar then you have to have contacts and acquainatances in the pudding. My pal was the secretary of Calabar South LG Council and we are negotaiting for some development plots in the area at good prices.

My Lawyer has lots of affordable land for sale (acquired in lieu of Legal fee's from clients who couldnt pay). I have ex-colleagues in the Land Registry Dept who will tip you of any new devt.or unencumbered land deals. From the outside it looks as if one can not get affordable land to buy in Calabar but when you are serious on taking steps and meet those "in-the-know" then doors surely open, Jino,I have been to Calabar recently and all the good things are going to those people who have the money.

@London Cool,
I am impressed with the way you reacted to the Cross River state issue somewhere in this forum. I have just read you recent posting, and would love to talk to you asap. Please can I have your number or email address? Cheers man!

@Wanajo and other gurus,
Is there a chance I'd benefit from the div and bonus declared by FBN given that I bought on the dayd the register closed? The same question applies to FMNL. Thanks

Temmie10:

Yes PHB is supposed to come out with a po soon.
Wema's a winner for me.

About these pos, i was reading that fcmb and afribank might both open up their po next week, thats going to be 200-300 billion being searched for, then thr's a long list after them again.
If you'll be buying into any pos, make sure you are buying a really good one.

@ Temmie10,
Morning bros, you and this your Wema thingy! Do I take it that you'd advise those who have some spare cash to buy into it? What sort of time frame are talking about here? Lest I forget, I've been trying to get an explanation for the strange behaviour of Guinness Plc; why is it not going up given the ostensibly good dividend declared the other day?

@All
What is going on with Guinness? It is falling even in the face of a reasonable dividend declared last week. Any answers anybody?

@Pilgrim.1
About the Acts 34 thingy, it is very clearly a typo and you know so; but for you it is another chance to attack me; go back and see what I said about your attitude to non-sequiturs [mistakes and illogicallities] in other persons' postings. You attitude to my typo vindicates my position. Remember that unlike you, I am not here to fight with you or show you up, I started out as one interested in alerting you to the dangers inherent in your attitude.
So you are worried that I compared your attitude to the Taliban's? Well, only those who hate you would hesitate to tell you that some of your posts here are unbecoming of a Christian in a pluralistic world. The Taliban did not and have not been able to agree that pluralism of ideas or religions is a given in today's world. I must admit the Taliba thingy was not said with any malice, I knew that example would get you thinking and reflecting, and you can be sure that my job would have been done when you become more temperate in your attitude to those who hold views different to yours. There is a way to talk in public foras, and you have shown repeatedly in your replies to me that I was right from the beginning when I flagged up your attitude.
About questions, yes, I put it directly to you that you have repeatedly sidestepped the primary issue I have raised with you. I ask again in case you missed it the other times, the Bible and the Christian faith, which is older? Until you are able address that question honestly and objectively, there is not a lot that would make meaning to you.
Before you start to selectively cut and paste in your reply, ask yourself how we got here. Finally, lets say the Catholics shot the first shot. Did your reply have to be of the same material as their? Haba, thought the man Jesus did away with the "eye for an eye" postulation?

@pilgrim.1 and ricadelide
I am not going to waste my time looking at every line and word in your superfluous replies, the spate of replies is a sign that for you religion or indeed any discussion about religion tantamount to war. All we have said is in public domain, I leave judgement to all who come to this forum.
Before I leave you alone, let me put some facts straight.
I have not declared myself to be Catholic, yet you have called one because I dared to call your to order and attempted to make you think/write reasonably. Why this 'them and us' attitude? So anyone who does not support your views is Catholic? I guess the Catholics would be on my case as well in a few hours, they could call me anything for daring to remind them that Karl Barth, the German Lutheran theologian, remains one of the key thinkers in Comtemporary Catholic academic work on Original Sin!
About other religions, how can you claim not to know that Christianity is a really young religion when compared to some of the Oriental religions or indeed to that of the people we wrongly[read ignorantly and arrogantly] call pagans in our villages and local communities? I guess you missed that point in your bid to tell me the much you know about the history of the Christian faith that I happen to share with you? Why did I refer you to history? It was to allow you put everything about religion within a context, I can tell from your replies that it was wasted on you.
Lastly, I still stand on the points made in my earlier posts; are you sure your attitude is what is expected of a Christian in a pluralistic world? Why are you bent on trying to help God stoke the flames of Hell, why not leave him to do his thing? Gamaliel's position in Acts 34 was meant to nudge you into seeing the beauty of a non-belligerent attitude to your enemies, i.e the Catholics, but again you missed the whole point? Rather, you came at me armed with biblical quotes, which leads to the last thing I shall be saying to you and every Christian here: the Bible and the Christian religion, which is older? Before you call me names, remember that I am a Christian like you, my aim is to get you to think, study and pray like a thinking being ought to.

@ricadelide
Bring it on!
You sign in here complaining about posts that dare to suggest that you should rein in your attitude , yet you are quick to notice the non-sequiturs in another person's posts.
One of the main planks of public foras is the readiness to see the wisdom in the positions of those you are engaging with, I'd dare to say that I am yet to find nuggets of wisdom in your last post or indeed in the bits previously posted by you that I have been able to read. Please read the following lines carefully and prayerfully, before you choose to shoot off another vitriolic reply.
About the Pope, does your idea of Love and peacefull co-existence suggest that you should visit the alleged iniquities (in your eyes) of the Pope on the other Catholics on this board? Are you sure you really care about Christ? Is this the attitude Christ would have displayed? Remember the root of the word "Christian"? It was used to describe those who were Christ-like, please why are you reducing the power of that word by this belligerent attitude?
On another note, why this impish joy in the fact that some people are going to burn in Hell? On the contrary, why not rejoice in your own salvation and continually pray for the salvation of those you contrive to see as unredeemed?
Lest I forget, it remains my view that some of you the 'so-called Christians' make me and many others want to welcome the Taliban with open arms, their notoriety could pale into insignificance in the face of what your type carry around.
Finally, move an inch out of what your comfort zone and you would come see that all of us who call ourselves Christian should be less strident in face of the age of the some of the non-Christian Religions. Some of these existed at least 2 to 5 thousand years before the coming of Christ? Another point you might want to reflect on is the fact that Christianity as a Religion does predate the Bible that we shall be reading in Church today.

@Pilgrim.1
I thought you said you were ready for a truce ! Why are you so bent on 'converting' a people who already believe in God? Are there no non-Christians around you? What is this obsession with the Catholicism? Leave these people alone to do what they want to do with their topic on this forum. BTW, you remind me of the things I have come to dislike about some of those who claim to be Christians. You definitely give me reasons to compare you, once again, to the Taliban, abeg cool down. Why are you so belligerent about the things of God?
Remember what Gamaliel told his colleagues in the Sanhedrin cf: Acts 34ff? Please show some trust in this your God, leave the Catholics to him to sort out. Haba, are you God's avenging angel?
@All Catholics here
There is every chance Pilgrim.1 is nothing but a religion-minded wind-up merchant who is out to get you guys worked up. Why not learn to ignore her rantings and go ahead with whatever you guys want to do here?
@ All
Where were all of you when the crooks carted away the national treasures of Nigerians? Stop this IGG and go about the worship of your God. The day all those who claim to be Christians in Nigeria can come unto to the streets to protest against bad leadership, I'd begin to take your IGG and posturings serious; even a blatant thief like OBJ got the support of some Christians in Nigeria . Let me stop before I get tempted to write a treatise on the type of Christianity in Nigeria

@Pilgrim.1
I have noticed the slight change of tone in your last two or three postings, it is my hope that it is a sign of things to come. With regard to the your reply to my post, it would do you good to re-read it. I clearly called on you and the so-called Catholics, don't tell me you did not notice it. I notice Marissa has also called on you to lay down your weapons, you are inadvertently making the Catholics look good. Why do you allow them to dictate how you'd react? Why not be your own person? Finally, why not allow everyone to do their own thing until that day of days when Christ would sort everyone out? Haba, does your own vision of Christianity preclude freedom of opinions and ideas?
Abeg, cool down. I know Jesus loves you as much as he loves the other person, remember Christ is more about LOVE than the things you and your friends are squabbling about here.

@ricadelide and pilgrim.1
Kind thanks for the civil replies/contributions to the debate. There is a chance you all are well-intentioned, but I still have issues with the attitude on show in this topic, the person or persons I picked out are only representative of what I find distasteful about the shouting match here. Are you guys sure Nigeria would not be like the then Taliban-run Afghanistan if persons like you were put in positions of authority? Remember that the Taliban had little or no respect for any opinion that was contrary to theirs; Nigeria is tottering on the brink of implosion and here you are talking about religious opinions as if they constitute the biggest problem or have caused the biggest problem in Nigeria. Before you begin to throw the Bible at me, take a step backward and think out your position very carefully. Why do you find it hard not to be sarcastic about other peoples views? Are you convinced this is the best way to spread the Love of Christ? Has it ever occurred to you that you may be obsessed with the whole issue of SIN and FORGIVENESS, forgetting that the kernel of Christ message was and remains LOVE?
Notice I have not resorted to some cleverly chosen quotes from the Bible to make my points, I could resort to that if you and the so-called Catholics here refuse to listen to reason. Talk intelligibly and use to Bible to support what you say, do not go about it the other way round

pilgrim.1:

I hear - we see the "May God rebuke him" - and yet the prayer for all practical purposes has been directed to "you o Prince of the heavenly host". And that is besides the fact that your punctutations kept shifting in your desperations, abi? See them again:

#1.
#2.
Spot the difference!

@pilgrim.1
I have followed the conversation, or shall I say shouting match, in this thread off and on; I must say that I find your attitude and disposition worrisome. Do you really live in the UK? I hope you are not a card carrying member of the BNP? You are too highly strung for forum like this one. Keep the banter lighthearted and know that there is a lot you can learn from those you engage with. Meanwhile, you gave the impression of knowing what google is all about, google this name Scott Hahn.He is one of the finest minds and gifted preachers that the Calvinists have turned out in the last 50 years in the States. For the Catholics who are engaged in the shouting match with pilgrim.1, have you ever heard of a Prostestant theologian called Karl Barth? He remains one of the best minds in the area of Original Sin and related areas. Please stop this display of pent-up religious aggro, take things easy. Remember that there are Christians on this board who get put off by the infantile mentality rife on this link/topic. By the way, do not be scared, I am not the devil; like most of you, I am a practicing Christian.

kingzy:

where is the advert forum or section?

Abeg Seun,
Where is the advert section?
Can't seem to find it.
Thanks

@ NBA and Co
This man knows what he is saying, he managed to solve a seemingly intractable problem at the CSCS for me some months ago. It is a free world, and the Nigerian Constitution guarantees your right to freedom of association; so join if you are so minded or keep your peace. Did I hear you say exploitation? I think you should rather learn something from this Medical Doctor-turn-Finance Guru, he is not waiting to empty some public treasury after winning, or shall I say stealing, victory to some elective post. He is busy using what he has to impact upon the lives of those who have signed up with him and who says he has no right to make some gains while at it for himself.

wanaj0:

Issue still under processing by SEC. Sterling Capital Markets will be the issuing house. Price is N1.50 and there will be 814m shares to be sold!

Hope that helps.

@Wanajo
Pls are you talking about the PP or the PO? Would love to hear you clearly. Thanks man

easimoni:

Could not have been better said! If we want to see vending machines and other things paid for in coins, this is the way forward. I'd also like to be able to talk to people from other cultures about pay/prices and the like without having to think if I missed a few zeroes when dividing N6, 500, 000 by N128 to get USD

Is there a Soludo fan club anywhere? I'd like to join.

@Easimoni
Hear Hear!
You are still at the level of fan club? I am ready to pre-order a copy of his Memoirs even if the book is set to take another 5 years before it hits the bookshops . So tell me if you know any bookshop or seller that is taking pre-orders for Soludo's memoirs, which would be a must read for many persons. The man is a tribute to local content, when Soludo was first appointed, an Associate Prof of Economics in UNICAL told his students to look out for the strides Soludo would achieve. The aforementioned Prof also alerted his students to the fact that Soludo being a home-trained Economist would not work with a western mindset, it is happening before our eyes .
I am not an economist, all I have is a simple C6 in Economics. But even a simpleton can actually tell the difference between Soludo and those brainwashed people that have run the CBN until Soludo got there. It must be said that though I hadn't the privilege of attending the UNN, this man-Soludo-represents what can be achieved when our local unis get their act together.