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MelesZenawi:
Igbankes are Igbankes is nothing but trash because it has no meaning.

Igbankes we know today are Benins.

MelesZenawi:
Today they are benins and fully benins.

Igbos did migrate from Benin. Stop that Aristotlean theory.

MelesZenawi:
As at today, they are benins...

ezenwajosh:
I haven't seen igbanke denying being Igbo

Their name is Igbo akiri I don't need to go ahead telling you why they were shifted to Edo....

I have an Edo friend who doesn't consider them Benins...I even asked him what's the meaning igbanke he said he doesn't know that's its not Edo language

Nigeria is a bunch of experiment where people and joined without consulting the indigenous people....Nigeria is a poultry farm...even in poultry you sort birds to avoid CANNIBALISM but Nigeria don't care because its all about its my turn to in 3095

odigbosky:
One thing i know for sure is that they are on bunch of confuse people. They will tell you they are not Benin and they are not ika. All the igbankes I have seen all have Benin surnames and you go think say dem be Benin. They are mostly Benin closer to agbor. I have a friend whose grandparents are Benin with a house in a village in orhriomwon. The boy's father adopted an ika name and he lives in Agbor and doesn't go home. Today my friend claims he is ika and sometimes he says he is Benin. He is confused also. The palace is doing the right thing. Pick one and stop being confused

ChiSomtoChi:
Are you an Igbanke?

Ardar:
@ The bolded, Edo as a state did not exist untill recently. Even before Bendel state those tribes in the present Edo state existed separately.

Those igbanke people deny anything Igbo in them so they should assimilate in to the bini culture totally and stop crying abeg.

ChiSomtoChi:
What we go through as Igbos in Edo –Igbanke accounts ordeal

Igbo-Akiri (Igbanke) is an Igbo speaking community of IKA accent in Orhionmwon local government, Edo state. We, the people Igbanke are gradually losing our Igbo linguistic and cultural identity as a result of our forceful membership with the Binis through conquest (Biafran war). If urgent measures are not taken, our linguistic and cultural identity would sooner than later go into sudden extinction. In order to avoid the impending extermination of our race, we therefore, ask that a local government area be created that would consist of Igbo Akiri (Igbanke) and other Ika speaking communities in Edo state. Alternatively, if local government creation is not feasible or possible, Igbo Akiri (Igbanke), should therefore, be severed from Edo state and merged with Ika south local government area in Delta State.

BELOW ARE WHAT WE GO THROUGH BECAUSE WE ARE IGBO CREATED INTO EDO STATE

1)Most Igbanke indigenes who have Ika ancestral names like, “Emeka”, “Maduka”, “Chukwuka” “Chinyere”, “Amaka and Ogorchukwu” etc are often confronted with all forms of harrowing experiences when there are needs to visit our council headquarters, Abudu to process one official documents or the other. We are often denied the issuance of documents like, Certificate of Local Government of origin, Protest Letter, To Whom it May Concern, etc on the guise that we are Igbos not Binis.

2) Those who have the likes of the Ika aforementioned names, but can speak Bini language are rarely subjected to the above embarrassments and discriminations. This act goes a long way to vindicate our fear that there is a subtle, but carefully planned agenda to make us lose and abandon our ancestral linguistic and cultural heritage.

3) In order to escape from these unnecessary embarrassments, some have no other option left than to change their identity from Ika to Bini names.
4) Today, we, the good people of Igbanke are gradually losing our once envied linguistic and cultural identity.

5) Some of the eminent sons and daughters of Igbanke, whom out of their outstanding contributions to the development of the community, were recognized and given chieftaincy titles had had such titles changed from their original Ika origin to Bini equivalence. For example, few years ago, one of our sons who addressed himself as “Chief Orike-Eze” in Oba of Benin palace was shamefully harassed, insulted and forcefully forced, right in the palace to change the title to its Bini version. According to the palace, the title, “Orike-Eze” had its origin from Ika and Igbo nations.
5) Most times, when we have cause to attend meetings with the Binis in our local government area or senatorial district, deliberations are often conducted in Bini in language without considering the fact that the people of Igbanke in such meeting neither speak nor understand the language. Often than not, when we attend such meetings, we left the venue more confused than we were before we went.

6) In Edo state, Igbanke is only tolerated, not respected, seen, but not accepted. Today, in Edo state, plans are underway by the state Ministry of Education to introduce the teaching of Bini language in Primary and Secondary schools across Edo south senatorial district including Igbanke. Unfortunately, our indigenous language, Ika is not in any way considered qualified and appropriate to be taught in schools in Igbanke. To us, its another deliberate attempt to send our linguistic identity into extinction.

7) Our people have also suffered several inexplicable discriminations when it comes to political appointments. During the 2013 Edo state local government elections, one of our sons, Mr. Peter Ikem was refused to contest the chairmanship position in Orhionmwon local government area. Reason? His surname, “Ikem” was an Igbo, not Bini name.


Me: If our SE Igbo elites don't act fast on this, there is high possibility that in the next 20 years the IGBO speaking people in Edo and Delta will be completely wiped out of their history. The same way the cabals divided the Igbos during the 19s after creating South east is the same way the Benins are doing but in a more painstaking manner.

sainam:
Edo State Governor, Mr. Godwin Godwin Obaseki, said he has created 157,000 jobs in the last three years.

The jobs, according to him, were created through job tracking for organisations, job matching and placement, skill acquisition and entrepreneurship and Edo Innovates programme.

Governor Obaseki stated this at the Alaghodaro 2019 Youth Summit as part of activities to mark his three years in office.

Obaseki stated that many people doubted his ability to create the jobs when he made the promise three years ago but he took the risk.

He explained that he built the job creation programme around six key areas such as the people, education, sport, and arts and culture.

On education, Governor Obaseki stated that by next academic session, he would establish 300 stand-alone Junior Secondary School where vocational training would be offered.

Governor Obaseki said any student that passed through the schools might have learnt a skill or a vocation that would make them earn a living.

His words, “By the time they are graduating from JSS, the children must have had handwork because there will be fundamental training at the schools.

“We want to change the mindset that education is not about certificate. That is why introduced Edo jobs to help the youths retrace their steps.

“We are mapping out our economy. We are looking at the future through our 30 years development plan.

“Our independent power supply would soon be available to power the street lights and production centres.”

The event saw 150 youths empowered with engineering starter packs after undergoing training.

Over 2000 youths participated in the programme and were linked with jobs in some organisations present at the event.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/thenationonlineng.net/i-have-created-157000-jobs-in-three-years-says-obaseki/amp/

Rubbiish:
Lol
Are things that bad?
So many men still help ladies without taking advantage of them

obillyj:
Lately, I have summoned the courage to start up a business. I have several business ideas but had being afraid to make the move because of all that is involved. I am ready to do so now but faced with the challenge of getting funds.
I will need about half a million to kick off and don't want to start with loan.

Do I need to write a proposal and submit to my prospective helpers or do I just meet and explain to them. I hope also to raise the fund from family and friends. How do I go about it please.

Thanks.

Tg

MelesZenawi:
No, Is not true. The statistics is wrong.

Virtually all Edos has a kind of link to Yorubas both in name, writing and somehow culture.

You guys are just related same with Itshekiris and Urhobo.

MelesZenawi:
But they are related to Yorubas very well both in ancestry.

madridsta007:
From Wikipedia:

Sowore....

DOB: 16 February 1971 (age 48)
From: Ondo State, Nigeria

Is Ondo State Oduduwa?

MelesZenawi:
West really disappointed sowore.

No single person to stand in for him.


You guys are really what people says u are.


From Ondo state through Ekiti to Osun down to Oyo straight to ogun right to Lagos even from kwara no one came out to say I stand for sowore...


All ages of activist as history doesn't lie, abandoned to their fate when the going gets tough..

Now Someone from Edo state is about to be the saviour to sowore bail's fulfillment....What you guys couldn't do for your own son.

Edo una try....well done though na same Oduduwa Sha.

davo90tico:
He is magnanimously thinking and intended to post bail



https://twitter.com/APOSTLESULEMAN/status/1191277997665476608?s=19[/quote]Do not stand for this traitor

He should rust in jail

fairfora:
yes, that's the XYZ, he did it in 2 different diagnostic centres and ran the test 3 times since June, including the one done this week, all negative

fairfora:
Hello nairalanders. I have this colleague who was always sleeping in the office around july. He often complained of muscle and joint pain with dizziness and pain in his eyes and both sides of his head. Sometimes, he would be complaining of slight headache and abdominal pain.

I asked that some test be run by him, including an XYZ just to be sure. He did all that and all was negative except typhoid which was inherent in the diagnostic report with negligible malaria. He was placed on a broad spectrum ciprofloxacin. He was feeling relieved after which the symptoms came back.

He went back to the clinic and was placed on Zinax, a higher antibiotics. 2 weeks later, the symptoms came back again and this time, the dr asked him to repeat the test and still repeat the XYZ. As usual all came out negative except thyphoid. This time, he was placed on augmentine. In short, he completed the recommended dose barely 2 weeks ago and symptoms have returned as I speak . Yesterday, I asked that the test be repeated for the 3rd time same as usual. Please medics, pharms and traditional medics in the house, what drug can he use to get rid of this stubborn bacteria?

sharpden:


This government is wicked, 56 toll gates in a region that is said to be the smallest in land mass and population?

TAO11:
The claim that Ekaladerhan even came to Ife (let alone rule Ife) is a fraudulent claim ---- Atigba, 2019


Lagos belongs to the Aworis. The Aworis kept the Bini migrants in camps called "Eko" in the Edo language. We sold some of them to the Americas as slaves, and some of them to Italy as prostitutes.

TAO11:
Met his match, yet scrapped your ancestors' dynasty for about 1000 years and still counting??

The claim that Ekaladerhan even came to Ife (let alone rule Ife) is a fraudulent claim ---- Atigba, 2019

Lagos belongs to the Aworis. The Aworis kept the Bini migrants in camps called "Eko" in the Edo language.

TAO11:
No one conquered the Aworis. Rather the Binis begged to live in Lagos under the Olofin's rule. "Eko" is a Benin word just as "Benin" is a Portuguese coinage. Do we conclude then conclude that the Portuguese founded Igodomigodo? Laughable logic.

The claim that Ekaladerhan even found his way to Ife (let alone rule) is a fraudulent claim. ---- Atigba, 2019

Orominyan brought war, and ran back to Ife. He attest that the people de vex. A failed invasion

You said names evolved, why cant you accept believed evolved as well. Edo people account Ekerladahan is the progenitor of the yoruba race

We founded Eko and used it to sell Yorubas as slaves










You admitted just a moment ago that Oranmiyan was a "jihadist" who conquered your Igodomigodo land and installed the Oba monarch supplanting your Ogiso till date. How many contradiction do you have to make to realize it?

The Yorubas in South America are captives from the civil war within the Yoruba country itself. Each Yoruba subgroup saw itself as independent and sovereign.

The Binis, on the hand, were sold into slavery in the Americas; as well as into prostitution in Europe.

Lagos was never a slave market. You wish it was. "Eko" means camp and that's because the Binis who migrated to Lagos for greener pastures lived in camps, under the command of the Olofin. Perhaps this is the slave market you've been talking about.

Edo is the name of Eweka just a moment ago, and now the name of a slave. Sleep is indeed vital.

Point out where I said Ekaladerhan founded Ife.

Rather, I agreed with you that such a claim is fraudulent.





"Idu" your progenitor, on the other hand, hails from Ile-Ife according to your own tradition.

"Edo" evolved from "Idu" to become the name of the people as a group.

"Ado" is the former name of Benin-city.

"Eweka" evolved from "Owomika"

Oranmiyan scrapped your Ogiso because that's how stars do.

TAO11:
No Yoruba person ever says that Ekaladerhan founded Ife.

My debate with you was that:

You said there was nobody as Ekaladerhan, but I maintained and proved that Ekaladerhan, son of Ogiso Owodo was banished to Ughoton where he lived and died.

The claim that Ekaladerhan founded Ife is a fraudulent claim. Says who? Says you Atigba. You must be wondering why I would not allow you contradict yourself today in peace.

No sane person hears "Owomika" and decides to say "Eweka" instead. It evolved slowly over the centuries. Names do evolve just as Jesus was not originally "Jesus".

Lagos was never a slave camp. I have already told you that wishes aren't horses.

Yorubas captured and sold Binis as slaves. And we still do so till date. That's precisely what we do over you till date by scrapping your Ogiso and installed our Oba.

Lagos was founded by the Aworis, not Oba Orhogbua.

One second ago Edo was the name of Eweka. The next second, Edo is the name of a slave. You were right when you said you need sleep.

Like I said the Yorubas conquered and sold you into slavery. And the conquest still continues till date even as I type.

Like I said and which you agreed, the claim that Ekaladerhan even came to Ife at all is fraudulent.

TAO11:
And who said names aren't expressions? I hope you aren't retarded.

If the expression didnt become his name, then no tradition will follow from it whereby new Obas are to pronounce their own names just as he did.

Provide your evidence that Benin people that day heard Owomika, and yet they decided and began from that point to start calling him Eweka, instead.

Like seriously??

The progenitor of your ancestors, Mr Idu hails from Ife.

Says who? Say your ancestors' tradition called the "Iso-Norho" a.k.a. the tradition of "pouring sky".

Don't be afraid to find it out using the reference I gave earlier on. And thank me later for telling you something about your origin.

And nobody, said Iso-Norho is a festival. You appear dumber than I initially give you credit for.

Regarding Ekalderhan, I know you're only emotionally reaction to the truth I just exposed you to about your origin from your own account.

You said clearly, and I already attached it as a screenshot earlier, that:

In your history, there was never an Ekaladerhan who went to found Ife. You said such account is fraudulent.

In other words, I understand why you're now push for what you admit to be a fraud.

Anyways, I am sorry.

Who is deceiving you that Binis were not sold into slavery??

No community on the West coast of Africa was spared in the transatlantic slave-trade.

There were several slave raids and skirmishes that got the Binis sold into slavery. Don't be deceived, okay?

Eko is no slave camp. You actually wish it was. But wishes aren't horses.


And lastly, you once said "Edo" was the name of Eweka1 (see attached screenshot) but now it's has suddenly become the name of a slave.

Aren't you tired of contradicting yourself?/

TAO11:
1. Whenever I debate with those "they" who said Edo founded Yoruba people, then I will take it up with those "they".

Thank God you don't agree with those "they" who said that, and you also don't represent them. Or do you agree with them?

In the case of your progenitor --- Mr. Idu; I agree with your "Iso Norho" tradition which says he hails from Ife. And that's why I could challenge you on it --- I believe it. Can you see the difference now?

In the case of Mr Idu hailing from Ile-Ife:

(i) It is your "Iso-Norho" tradition which says so, not my tradition.

(ii) I agree with what it says as regards Mr. Idu hailing from Ife.

In conclusion, it makes sense if I challenge you with it.

On the other hand. In the case of Mr Ekaladerhan supposedly founding Ife:

(i)It is not my tradition which says so.

(ii)You do not agree with what it says as regards Ekalderhan founding Ife.

In conclusion, it makes no sense that you challenge me with what is not in my tradition, and which you also don't agree with.

The difference between the two methodologies is as the difference between night and day --- striking.

2. And who says "Owomika" is not a name? Oh, names are not supposed to have meanings? Lol.

"Owomika" is the name of the first Oba of Benin (if Oranmiyan is considered as merely laying the foundation).

He pronounced his own name when he spoke out for the first time.

And in fact, this event led to the tradition that every incoming Oba of Benin would pronounce his own name just as the first Oba did.

"Owomika" evolved/got corrupted into "Eweka" over the centuries.

Also Jesus is not the "Messiah's" name given to him by his family. It slowly evolved over time into that.

Names do evolve.

"Idu" evolved into "Edo" and became the name of the people as a group.

Did you just say "Edo" was the name of a slave. Oh, did it stop being the name of Eweka?

You're the most confused creature ever liveth.


And regarding Ekaladerhan, you have to pick a conclusion and stick to it.

It's either he founded Ife or he didnt. It can not possibly be both.

Im sorry i frustrated you to this point where you can't help but to sit on the fence.

TAO11:
Ekaladerhan didn't found Ife I accept that not because of you. Of course you're a nobody.

I know that because both Yoruba account and the the earliest know authoritative indigenous Benin account of Chief Egharevba say that.

I was simply pointing out your hypocrisy because you accept the Yoruba and authoritative Bini accounts that Ekaladerhan never founded Ife, yet today you hypocritically and unashamedly said he did.

Names don't evolve right, then explain the magic that happened from "Owomika" to "Eweka".

Also, you wish your ancestors own Idumota. I also wish my ancestors own Rubber city in United states.

Can't you hear the sound Rubber city --- Ruba city ---- Yoruba city.

I hope you finding this foregoing kindergarten pseudohistory very enlightening.

If wishes we're horses ...


You noted that the Edos said their son founded Yoruba people. But both you and I admitted that such claim is absurd and nonsensical. Didn't we?

There is therefore no point "challenging" me on what you don't agree with, which I also don't agree with.

Comparing this with the claim that your progenitor Mr. Idu hails from Ile-Ife is like comparing night and day.

And that's because Mr Idu's origin as mentioned here is not my claim but your own people's tradition entitled "Iso Norho".

Don't you still get it?

TAO11:
1. Shut up you janus-faced liar. I didnt even bother engaging you here on you Ekalderhan claim above.

All I did was to simply point out your hypocrisy by showing that you once stated started clearly that:

There was never any Ekaladerhan in your history, and that the Ekaladerhan claim was fraudulent.

Listen to yourself in the attachment below.

Having said that, the claim that Mr. Idu hails from Ile-Ife is not my claim. Rather, it is your own tradition entitled "Iso Norho" which says so.

Like I said, channel your frustration accordingly.


2. Did you just say names don't evolve? Wow! You must have convinced yourself to be the Linguist General of Igodomigodo.

Maybe you should explain how the name "Benin" came about since names don't evolve. Lol

Again, "Edo" evolved many many centuries ago from the name of Mr Idu --- your progenitor who is said (by your own Iso Norho tradition) to hail from Ile-Ife.

3. I know the word "Oba" (for "king" ) is not originally found in your lexicon. But that's not the bone of contention here.

Can you now focus and stop the distraction.


4. Eweka has no name as "Ado". In fact, "Ado" is the earliest name of Benin-city --- a section of Igodomigodo.

There is no point asking me to see any list of your Ogisos (a.k.a. Sky-Kings) because no one (except you) claimed that "Ado" is originally the name of a person.


Your last modified additions admitted that names do evolve.

But you had earlier said that names don't evolve

Don't you truly need sleep like you earlier said?

TAO11:
1. The word "Edo" is evolved many many centuries ago from the name of your progenitor --- Mr Idu.

2.Your own tradition called "Iso Norho" claims that your progenitor, Mr Idu hails from Ile-Ife.

So, channel your frustration to the appropriate quarters.

3. You already claimed in one of your replies to me (on a separate thread) that there is no human being called Ekaladerhan in your history.

You noted that Ogiso Awodo a.k.a. Owodo died childless. So, who are you trying to deceive now? Yourself obviously.

4. Eweka1 has no name as Ado. Rather, "Ado" is the earliest name of today's Benin-City even before Oranmiyan's arrival.

TAO11:
Creation of a State called Edo State is not what we're discussing now.

The word "Edo" predates Edo State by centuries. C'mon! Shouldn't you know this already?

Just as the name "Lagos" predates Lagos State; as the name "Oyo" predates Oyo State; as the name "Osun" predates Osun State; etc.

The word "Edo" (which describes the people as a group) evolved from the name of Mr. Idu ---- the progenitor of the group who (according to your Iso-Norho tradition) hails from Ile-Ife.

"Ado", on the other hand, is the earliest name of the region known today as Benin-City --- even before Oranmiyan went there.
(If you need proof for this, then you're welcome)

Nowhere did I mention that "Ado" or "Edo" is the name of somebody. It is you who claim that.

And it is you who are trying to disprove your own straw man claim --- go ahead boy. Lol.

TAO11:
You're trying too hard to distract the untrained reader to other irrelevant things that I did not challenge you on.

Eweka never had any name as "Ado".

"Ado" is the name of Benin-city in case you need proof.

"Edo" evolved from Mr Idu's name many centuries ago.

TAO11:
You are a fvcking liar:

You wrote: "Ado the son brought from Ife couldn't talk, ..."

Ado is the name of Benin-City. If you need expert, scholarly testimony, let me know.