MelesZenawi: As at today even the king's has made it clear that his story wasn't a. Reflection of what happened and should be discarded. He is not a historian and he doesn't know more than the kings.
Anyway it all boils down that igodomigodo is only for Edo/bini alone...
Nothing else.
You think Zik was writing rubbish without consulting your kings then
Anyway, Igodomigodo comprises all south south, part of south east and part of south west
Dartilo: I m from Edo,benin city to b precise our history tell us dat oduduwa was from Edo a banish priest that fled through ughoton... This is what we blv...
Or can anyone tell me the main reason benin sought to find oduduwa from ile ife to rule over them since dem were not conquer or vassal
The road to Ughoton lead to Ughele not Ife
There was never a prince banished from Igodomigodo that found Ife, the acclaimed Ogiso Awodo his father was childless.
Again, no Benin prince ever meant Oduduwa
Oduduwa was the first Oni of Ife and Orominyan is the 6th Oni of Ife.
Oduduwa ruled in Ife in around 4 century, the acclaimed Ogiso that gave birth to a banished prince ruled Igodomigodo in around 11:13AD
Ife kingdom senior ours when it comes to kingship. Everything Oduduwa brought to Ife, non is from our land. He came with 200 idols, non is tracable to us, he came with bronze casting which the Portugueses traced to some where Sudan.
Dartilo: Nttin like Balogun or Oni family in Benin bro,juz b sincere d remaining names r all Edo names so indigenous ile ife bears Edo names as family names in d past?
Then you are not from Benin, if you dont know those names
MelesZenawi: Azikiwe story has been corrected a long time ago because it was erroneous and misleading.
It didn't stand the test of time.
You must be crazy
You now know Zik origins more than him
Black people are fraudulent
They will just wake up and start writing history in modern time to suit their political needs. Your ancestors has already laid down in pen where they come from and you are proving you know more than them, when you were not born then.
Same thing is happening in Benin today, 2% of people that migrated from Ife in 1170AD are now claiming Oduduwa their father in Ife migrated from Igodomigodo. Meanwhile, they dont even know the history of Igodomigodo, they are doing this to grab a land and create a new identity for themselves
Dartilo: You dont just tell a story from one side, accordingly to d benins oranmiyan returned home and he returned with those sent by d benins to look for their son oduduwa who was oranmiyan father,ile ife didnt conquer benin so no need king on dem,d reason y dey sought to look for oduduwa was d same reason y it is dat d son of d father must take of over from d father not by voting or rotation
Those are fake story
The people writing such story in Benin are Yorubas who their ancestors migrated from Ife. They are trying to create a new identity for themselves, hence the fabrication.
Non of our history states Oduduwa is from Igodomigodo
Dartilo: Mention d name of some of the chief,dont come online to start saying what you do not know juz for d sake of supremacy battle...
D day u guys accept and acknowledge the true origination of oduduwa,frm dat day EDO will c u all as brother,because u cant not distort their history to mke u superior and also claiming brotherhood...
Benin has always stand wit d fact that oduduwa was their son who escape excution and ran away to a new land...
Ile ife means i ran and i escape in Edo language
Izoduwa means i have choosen my path of prosperity in Edo language
Oduduwa is not from Igodomigodo
He is from Sudan or Mecca, nothing he brought to Ife that is attributed to our land.
The people that came with Orominyan are Ero, Oni, Balogun, Ogieva, Ihama to mention few and their family are still there.
Our only notable historian did not state that Oduduwa came from Igodomigodo, may you should show me the history that state such
Edo and yorubas are just brothers. Evidence lies above.
Some benin chiefs share ancestral root with Ife and they are not up to 2% in Edo State.
They migrated to Igodomigodo in 1170AD. That doesn't mean people in Igodomigodo are yoruba.
Igodomigodo has been existing for thousands of years with IDU children before these so called Oduduwa came from Sudan or whatever they migrated from to Ille Ife.
The original occupants in Ife are Obatala which Olugbo of Ugbo is a descendant of.
MelesZenawi: You're not serious. It must be added.
You don't want it added but you can add that others(Igbo) migrated from Benin. Is this not also distortion of history?
Majority of Igbos in south east migrated from Igodomigodo, I have clarify that here before.
Again, stop equating Igodomigodo with Yoruba, the Yorubas already knows their boundary. Some certain chiefs in Benin migrated from Ife doesn't mean IDU children in Igodomigodo are Yoruba.
AkeNathan: It's hard to see someone who did Msc in Health or Engineering course in US and return Nigeria to regret it.
Most of the people complaining did Msc in Humanities Or Business field or Art, and the worst, do it in Cyprus, Romania, Belarus, Sweden, Ukraine, bla bla.
US education is King and has no equal.
Do you think you can afford to school in Sweden, one of the most innovative society in the world
I hope you are doing great. I intend going abroad for my masters, come this august 2020. I have secured admissions in the USA for MSc. Mechanical Engineering. i have partial funding already and i will be paying for the rest.
To better make my decision, did you have any regrets with studying abroad? did it give you an edge during your job search?
Chef2000: I don't know why but I keep seeing this guy in my dreams, though we were so close when he was alive (we usually go to set trap for bushmeat when the two of us return to the village when he was alive)
Before his death (a truck hit him and he died at the spot) I had a dream and I saw the two of us walking on the road, I hit my feet on a stone and fell down and he was unable to lift me up and I was asking him to lift me up but he was unable.
He died in June 2018 since then I have been having dreams about him which I do forget immediately I woke up.
But last week, I saw the two of us clearing weed in a farm and this morning I had another dream where we (his junior bro and my elder bro) were laughing and joking together, eating and drinking together.... he later went and wore my clothe in the dream, he wore the inner side of the clothe..
murphyibiam15: Shut up you this Edo Muslim boy, actually by nature Edo isn't even originally part of SS, you're more like north Central partially and the other half as Afonja...Edo doesn't even have more than 1 cup of oil.. who's now feeding who, but Almost all the states in east are oil producing
Edo State gave birth to south south, part of south west and part of south east.
As an academic, you should not be restricted to one source of income. I can be hired to conduct research in another institution for a consideration, not only within Nigeria but outside the country.
The government should not limit lecturers income to a single source, doing research in different institutions and with other academicians is good for the advancement of science and technology.
Dauraking: The university lecturers must enrol for IPPIS. What are they trying to avoid. Are these not the professors that were used by INEC to rig elections. It's payback time now. Nonsense and lecturers!
They will not enrol, the non teaching staff where stupid to have enrolled for the fraudulent scheme.
The federal government wants to destroy our institutions and render our academicians miserable.
Iolo: FIRS and CBN are revenue generating bodies and they pay salaries from revenues they generate. Hence they may be exempted from IPPIS since the government doesn’t pay their staff from its coffers directly.
The Nigerian Army and Police have all joined the IPPIS scheme and one thing everyone will agree with is that it has helped to curb the era of ghost workers.
ASUU unfortunately is afraid that it’s arbitrary deductions from lecturer dues will negatively affect its ability to raise funds. Till date I am yet to see any lecturer or non-teaching staff who outside of ASUU complain against IPPIS.
It brings about a new level of transparency our universities simply aren’t accustomed to.
Many of the issues raised above like accommodations for lecturers above 70 years are system configured features that can be changed for university staff.
Not to mention that until our universities are able to pay salaries from their own IGR the claim of independence from government remains mute.
sinkhole: The media has been inundated with speculations on imminent strike by the Academic Staff Union of Universities (ASUU) over the face-off between members of the union and the Federal Government for their refusal to register on Integrated Payroll and Personnel Information System (IPPIS), the new platform for the payment of Federal civil servants’ salaries.
*Very much like the Nigerian Armed Forces, Judiciary, National Assembly, Central Bank of Nigeria (CBN), Nigerian Deposit Insurance Corporation (NDIC), Federal Inland Revenue Service (FIRS), among others, Nigerian university lecturers are not federal civil servants in the strict sense of the word.*
ASUU National president, Professor Biodun Ogunyemi, recently declared the outright rejection of the IPPIS platform by members of the union at a press conference on 11th December 2019, after the union’s National Executive committee (NEC) meeting held at the Federal University of Technology, Minna between 7th and 8th December 2019. The following are ten reasons why ASUU has rejected the IPPIS:
*1. Emasculation of University Councils.* The ultimate authority put in place for the smooth running of a university is the university council. With the IPPIS, the body becomes severely marginalised and rendered as powerless as a toothless bulldog.
*2. Violation of world best practices on university autonomy.* Lecturers are of the opinion that surrendering the micro-management of individual staff salaries to an external body instead of the university bursar is a flagrant violation of university autonomy. With this system, dissident or compliant lecturers can be singled out for reward or sanction without the input of the university where they serve.
*3. A breach of the 2009 FGN/ASUU agreement.* The new platform is seen as a crude attempt to undermine the 2009 FGN/ASUU agreement about the welfare of university lecturers. Lecturers appear to be in agreement that this must not be allowed to happen.
*4. Tactful reneging on the FG/ASUU agreement on the payment of earned academic allowances (EAA).* There has been a long running battle between the FG and ASUU since the days of Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala as Minister of Finance on the payment of earned academic allowances (EAA) to the lecturers. Up till now, Nigerian lecturers are still being owed several years backlog of unpaid EAA. With the IPPIS, such arrears together with its expected incorporation into the lecturers’ salary structure will become history.
*5. Loss of remuneration for visiting lecturers for academic services.* From time immemorial, universities worldwide have a culture of encouraging intellectual rubbing of minds, whereby experienced academics visit other universities as visiting lecturers, external examiners, collaborative research and more. This global best practice is anathema to IPPIS; hence the remuneration of visiting lecturers and other researchers in this category is not captured on its rigid platform.
*6. It is unduly expensive.* A major reason why ASUU is not in support of the IPPIS is that it sees it as a glorified scam. The union recently alleged that the FG is planning to pay contractors handling the project up to N2 Billion if all academic and non-teaching staff members are enrolled. This figure was arrived at by multiplying the contractors’ charge of N16,000 per person per month with the total number of federal university workers.
*7. Fears that lecturers above 65 years old will not be captured.* The normal retirement age for regular civil servants is 65, but a special dispensation has been granted lecturers in the professorial cadre to retire at 70. This agreement was reached a few years back in accordance with global best practices. This fear by ASUU is real as the FG has not responded satisfactorily to put the worries of the lecturers to rest.
*8. Higher taxes. To help arrest the incessant brain drain* whereby Nigerian academics migrate in droves because they too often get better offers abroad, their annual income taxes are jointly negotiated between the unions and the tax authorities. It is a well known fact that workers already on the IPPIS pay higher taxes than they previously paid. Lecturers are not happy to be overtaxed for substandard or non-existent public utilities and municipal services.
*9. Fears on non-payment of salary arrears arising from delays in processing promotions.* The system of promotion in universities is such that the internal and external procedures are lengthy and cumbersome. In some universities like Obafemi Awolowo University, Ile-Ife, it could takes up to five or more years before the announcement of a person’s promotion into the professorial cadre. It is widely believed that the IPPIS does not have provision for the payment of such salary arrears.
*10. Serious infractions arising from errors, shortfalls and non-payment of salaries.* There is ample evidence from the experience of institutions already on the platform that errors in the system often manifest in the form of shortfalls or non-payment of staff salaries. The experience of the University of Maiduguri Teaching Hospital in which the November 2019 salaries of staff members were unpaid is instructive on this matter. Unlike in the past when payment errors are corrected locally, there are reports that affected staff members on the IPPIS have to visit Abuja personally to get payment errors rectified.
To be fair to ASUU, some of the issues raised above can be negotiated and factored on to a platform managed by the National Universities Commission (NUC), but the dictatorial arrogance with which the FG is dealing with the union does not augur well for the intellectual health of the country. The FG needs to come down from its high horse and allow universities to manage its finances in line with global best practices if it truly desires the advancement of this country.
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