₦airaland Forum

getukudo:
You've made your point.

So it's clearly and Igbo agitation. That's all I wanted to know.

I never said it is an Igbo agitation, I said it is for Igbos and the minorities who are comfortable with Igbos. Kanu can agitate on the Igbo side but only a referendum can say supports Biafra.

RoyalUc:
I guess it's that 'smartness' NK never had when he was busy insulting everybody and other regions.

Believe me, Asari never fought and is not fighting for the emancipation of the ND. He only fought for his pocket. It's only in Nigeria that people like him can still come out open against the govt with impunity.

Asari doesn't believe in Biafra. He is doing what he is doing out of his hatred for Buhari. He is a 'muslim' who actually converted to islam to gain relevance. Will Biafra tolerate islam?

Well, he can still 'reconvert' if Biafra comes.

Biafra is tolerant of all religions, what Biafra is not tolerant about is Islamic fundamentalists. If Asari Dokubo or Ijaws dont believe in Biafra and are using it as a smokescreen for some other agenda, when referendum comes, they should vote to continue with Nigeria.

Biafra is only for those who are tired of Nigeria.

SamzackD:
Cause what I expect of a leader is for him to come out and give us a plan on how he's gonna make Biafra the country with the largest economy in Africa, how he's gonna make sure every Biafran can wake up to a country that guarantees him the safety of his/her life and property,

tell us or rather educate is on how you're gonna make education in Biafra world class and affordable for all state's men, please educate us on how the manpower and brain power of Biafra would change the technology market in Africa, tell us of your plans to make the Biafra military the best in Africa, tell us of what's gonna be of Biafra nuclear program and how it's gonna benefit or protect Africa and her people
Tell us your plan on making Biafra the only country in Africa with veto power, tell us your plan for outta space exploration, give us your plans to end poverty in Biafra and Africa at large, give us your plan on how you are gonna make health care in Biafra world class, give us your plan on how the universities in Biafra would teach and educate world leaders that would shake the world In their given field.

I think you are mistaken the role of Nnamdi Kanu. Let me use the example Nnamdi Azikiwe.

Zik was a man who went abroad and studied. He returned to Africa and opened a Newspaper business in Ghana with which he used to attack the colonial government of Nigeria and insisted that indigenous Nigerians should be independent and running their own country. Zik later moved to Nigeria in the late 30's and carried on his fight for independence along with others and on the 1st of October 1960, Nigeria got independence. Nigeria still celebrates independence day.

The story of Zik and Kanu is not that different. Like Zik, kanu sent to study abroad and later opened a radio station from which he attacked the Nigerian government insisting that indigenous Igbos and the minorities who are comfortable with Igbos should be independent. Kanu later later returned to Nigeria to fight for what he believes in.

The job of Zik and Kanu is not to tell the people how the future will be or paint a rosy picture. Their job was to bring independence. Their selling point is self determination, independence and freedom. When you are free and in control of your destiny, you go and find a Rosy future.

Kanu's job is not to provide anyone with a vision of Biafra, Kanu's own vision is that of independence and freedom.

As an Igbo man, my duty is to look at Nigeria and ask myself if we Igbos can do better on our own or as a part of Nigeria. The 57 year old disasterous history of Nigeria convinces me that it is time for Igbos to be independent and manage our affairs. I believe we shall do much better outside Nigeria on our own. Nigeria for me is a complete disaster of a nation heading nowhere so it is time to try something else.

Kanu is only a freedom fighter, his job is only to get a referendum for Biafra. When the referendum comes, it is for us to choose which way we want to go. If we choose Biafra, we go with it and try to make it work.

Kanu's job ends with referendum, we then choose our future.

The fraud of a pastor who could not defend himself against Stephanie Otobo.

RoyalUc:
Is Asari no more fighting for the emancipation of the ND?

He is, but he is smart enough to realise that it is not a fight he can win unless he has the support of at least one of the majorities.

The Bravado of the Nigerian Military only shows when they are up against an unarmed group such as IPOB. Thats the only time they remember where the trigger of their gun is.


Put the Nigerian military against an armed group like Boko haram or Niger Delts militants and the bravado diappears and gives wsy to trepidation.

I have no doubt in my nind that the Nigerian Military cannot defend Nigeria from a well motivated and professional Armed force of another country because a highly undisciplned Nigerian Army that does not respect the rule of law in a democracy is most likely to be of no use to anyone.

To use live ammunition on unarmed civilians is the height of cowardice and such a person is not likely to use the same live anmunition so easy when he comes against someone as armed as him

Temidayo9:
They supposed hold their leaders accountable instead of dragging the whole region back by another 40 years.
May God help them anyway.

Its not possible to hold any leader accountable in Nigeria, they can only be held accountable in Biafra.

Michael004:
What of this title. Operation beg for freedom. Hope you know those who beg for freedom. A characteristic of a typical slave.

Its better to beg for freedom which is one agenda than to

beg the North for restructuring

Beg the East for ONE NIGERIA

Beg the South for Oil


Next, you people will be begging your selves in the west about which method of begging is the best.

Michael004:
[s][/s]Change this your 1870 music. Nobody listens to it again.

I heard the new track in town is "operation beg the North for restructuring" which was launched in Ibadan last week

victorDanladi:
You willsee.biafra will die a natural death when the party PDP they voted for regain power!

They are very emotional and very bad loosers

You will think different if the Anambra elections are successfully boycotted.


I do know why people keep regurgitating this old video. Even if Kanu once believed in Nigeria, him and the masses no longer do.

When it comes to Yorubas, most tribes in the south including us Igbo have learnt that Yorubas are acolytes of the North.


Yorubas will sell Southern Nigeria down the River in their desperate attempt to please their Northern Lords.

mykel25:
What lies... Army said dey were passing as show of force... And they got attacked in that junction n shot a fool by d tigh to teach others lesson....

The version of the police and that of the Army dont even tally. The Army said that they were not even near to Kanu's house while videos show us it was a lie.


I have never heard tha IPOB attacked anybody without provocation, thats not how they operate

It is not possible that the military was peacefully minding its business and moving past then IPOB just started pelting them with stones for nothing.

Amberon11:
Is it your business? Us Niger deltans love ourselves and refer to each other as brothers. What concerns you Igbos with that?

Dont make me laugh.

The only time you see the Nigerian Army displaying any bravado is when they are up against unarmed civilians.

solid3:
Let's not act like we did not see video claiming that they have volunteered their lives to defend Biafra. What are they guarding Nnamdi Kanu with, their bare hands or traditional carms? Let's be real.

The BSS is only getting prepared for the war they want to see and it's sad their preparation is grossly inadequate. And besides the entire agitation is a needless waste of youthful energy.

Of course the guard Kanu with bare hands, have you seen them with any weapons? They dont need it.

I have also seen people say they will defend Nigeria with their life, does it mean that those people want to go to war?


If anyone sees BSS as preparing for war then thats their business to think what they like.

But untill BSS actually take up arms, tbey remain a legal outfit that should not be harrased by the state security agencies

Others like OPC, Nigeria Delta militants and Herdsmen who all have taken up arms have not been harrased.

greenpasture:
The North will accept the " lesser evil" of restructure over dismemberment. Restructure is no poison pill for the North. They will negotiate terms.

Then you dont know the core North and born to rule. The dont negotiate. What the say goes and you can bet that the North will neither accept restructuring or dismemberment.

That is why only people who are prepared to fight for their freedom should be talking about restructuring.

Ojukwu faced the same decision 50 years, accept the will of the North that doesnt want restructuring or fight for freedom.

Restructuring is nit for those who still believe in 'one Nigeria'

jaszplus12:
let me say this please,: since kanu has so much influence and the igbos believe and have faith in his leadership, can they who believe so just quietly migrate to that region with all they have and establish the area to the envy of the nation?
I believe no government will hold it against you.
if they migrate and creat a model region that's not dependent on any part of the "zoo" for whatever that makes a region great I'm sure there won't be any Igbo seen anywhere else but there and we who aren't included will become envious!
or maybe I'm just not making sense and there must be quarrels and war just to develop your zone!

Migrating to their zone will not give them Biafra, they already did that in 1967 and it did nit work.

If all Igbos left all parts of Nigeria and went back home, it still will not bring about Biafra

Frankyboy1:
There must be a differentiation between ipob igbos and Niger delta's, I am igbo of delta extraction but see this ipob skirmish as madness or delusion grandeur of the highest order, how can you provoke and pelt a military armored carrier with it's personnel, When the military retracks, they say it is an act of cowardice,and the military is scared, when they attack they say icc,Hague,world bank,UN, as if they care about what's happening in Nigeria!you guys are loosing sympathisers with videos as such as this morning of miscreants trying to force the military to act in.order to give it a bad name!'Just this morning the professor in charge of Ikwerre youth council warned ohaneze to take it's igbo day celebration elsewhere,which is unconstitutional,but ipob which is mistaken as all Igbos is being synonymous with trouble,and brazen display of arrogance in their quest for their secession,I hear a lot of misinformed kids here.shouting BSS will match the Nigerian army and history will not repeat itself,their reason being boko Haram is waging an .war on our military,forgetting boko boys do not fight conventional warfare but hit and run and ready to lay down their lives as suicide bombers! Listen and listen well carefully, direct confrontation the Nigeria army will level IPOB,BSS and it's noise makers in a day with.less than one tenth of it's artillery and personnel, and nothing would happen, from the international community!go ask elzakky and co, Let leaders and elders of thoughts of our region rise up before this deluded self imposed emperor, lead lots of foolish youths to their early graves!a word is enough for the wise,and the fly kanu that refused to hear word will follow the corpse to the grave

Remarkably, you are saying that IPOB are bad while eccouraging the Nigerian armed forces to commit extrer-judicial murder of unarmed like they are licenced to kill. It shows you as a hypocrite.

The IPOB you are talking about has no weapons, has no record of being violent and has never touched or killed anyone.

Did you ask why the people pelted the amoured truck? You think that if it was you that your loved one got shot, you wouldnt pelt the truck? The video of the young man with a bullet in his leg, shot by the Army has gone viral since yesterday. Why will people not pelt the Army when the Army is acting like a gang of trigger happy thugs?


Kanu is in his house sleeping, if any of the uniformed forces has any business with him, they can go and knock on the gate and request his attention.

Not storm the place and when people ask why, they open fire. That is most unprofessional and illegal. And you are asking why people pelted them

The BSS you are talking about is an unarmed security group same as any vigilante group you can find in any part of the country. Why would an unarmed group face an armed group such as the Army?

Kanu and IPOB have the right to agitate about anything, be or Biafra or otherwise. Chapter 4 of the Nigerian contitution gives them tharmt right as long as the are non violent about it. Where has IPOB been violent? Have they killed anybody? Are they armed? It is even IPOB that have been killed in the hundreds.

You Nigerians should stop celebrating your armed forces acting like deranged armed thugs, it is nothing to proud about.

Pesuzok:
Says who, you thing all the things NK has been doing and setting up BSS is not enough, right?

Setting up an unarmed organisation? Anybody can do it, just a matter of money. It is not illegal as long as they dont carry arms. People set up local vigilante all the time.

benuejosh:
Obi and Oju are clearly IGEDE speaking local government and Okpokwu is clearly an IDOMA speaking Local Government too. Benue South has Just Idoma and Igede recognized. Check your indices well.

Are you trying to say that Chief Ifeanyi Cedrick Nweke, President of the Benue Igbos Development Union lied when he said when he told a News Reporter:

“The Igbos in Benue State particularly those in Ado, Oju, Obi and Okpoku LGAs of the state were in existence before the advent of Christian religion in Nigeria.

The Igbo found in Benue are:  Umuezeokoha, Umuezeoka, Oriuzor, Umuoghara, Amaekka and Amaezekwe all in Ezza communities, Izzi, Ezzamgbo and Effium, these are the people who would have been in present-day Ebonyi State but due for the fact that the Nigerian government then carved us into Benue in order to use our population to suppress our Eastern population. Apart from the Ezza-speaking clan, particularly the people of Umuezeokoha that has over 300 villages, if you are to calculate the number of Igbo-speaking villages, you find out that we are more than 600 villages because three of the biggest markets in our area are all in the Igbo-speaking part.

The markets are as follows: Inikiri Ichari, Iddah, Iduokpe.

”But in all these places, we have been facing a lot of deprivation of our fundamental human rights to the extent that we do not have any project attracted by the government, be it local, state or federal. In fact we have become the rejected part of the country because local government identification letters are not given to us any longer"

Are you still sure that there are ethnic Igbos indigenous to Benue?

solid3:
I am disappointed Nnamdi Kanu's Biafra Secret Police did not stop the hardware coming into his Republic of Biafra. How can you allow that?

Their first aid for the injured was nothing to write home about, I hope those shot did not bleed to death.

Their intelligence gathering was show to be zero, their reaction showed they are ill prepared to contain the Nigerian Army. If this is how they intend to build up, then they will suffer more casualties than expected.

Or was their reaction a planned attempt at deceiving the Nigerian Army into thinking they know next to nothing while they are actually well prepared for the worst and to cash in big on the ploy?

Could it be that there are things they are not telling us?

Yoy have the wrong notion abiut BSS is wrong. They are not a militant group, the dont carry arms and they were not created to face the Nigerian Army. They were created for security purposes. They can been seen guarding Kanu and maintaining order at IPOB rallies.

nengibo:
Dats your problem not ours, I'm also a Niger deltan, and I can speak for my brothers, the same way Igbos speak for non-igbo groups in the s.e

Thats what is called 'attach by force'. Even the Biafrans are better because at least they want everyone to choose through referendum.

But to call another tribe your 'brother' wether they like it or not, nna that one is hard to understand

benuejosh:
No Sir. There's no things as that. It's been a topic of discuss over time. Go check check the archives of the state and any information from the government concerning it's people. There's no trace of Igbos. If you claim 1 million igbo people in Benue, it would be recognized, the least tribe we have in Benue and it's recognized as indigenous are not up to a million, at most, half of them. In Benue South Zone as it is claimed, two just two much Tribes which together they make half the population of the whole state are the Idomas and Igede. If you see any igbo person in Benue then the are migrants whose root can still be traced back to the various places you mentioned say Ebonyi state. Go search for documents and history about the benue people, read very well. No igbo is from Benue amd Ebonyi was never Maliciously carved to make up Benue South. I stand to be corrected with better and solid Facts.

So you think there are no indigenous Igbos in Benue, many you can tell us the tribe that makes up Obi Local Government? What about Okpoku Local Government? Tell us the tribe in these two local govts. I dont even want to mention Oju local govt

sarrki:
Immediately PMB returned, in his nationwide broadcast, he specifically warned Kanu and he said he would stop his madness!!!

Instead for his supporters to warn him that "Dont take General's threat for granted", they were busy criticizing the President's grammar. Their focus was on what the president didn't say and not what he said!!! Now the president is keeping his broadcast promise!!!

Yoruba say "he who warned you before defeating you is a Master Wrestler...."

Long live PMB!!!

Its quite unfortunate that nobody ever bothered to remind Buhari that we are now in a democracy. That the Nigerian Army has no business patroling a non combat area, that to arrest a person a warrant of arrest is needed, that Nnamdi Kanu is allowed to peacefully agitate for Biafra under chapter 4 of the Nigerian constitutiion and that shooting unarmed people is a serious offense.


Buhari's supporters want him to be a dictator. Unfortunately, dictators never do well in office and often leave the country worse than they found it for try as they might, no dictator can carry the people along.

Its very good that Nnamdi Kanu came out to debunk the lies of the Nigerian Army

benuejosh:
Also Igbos are NOT part of Benue.
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A lot of people dont know it but there are over 1 million indigenous Igbos,the Umueze Okoha people, in Benue state. People who should have been in Ebonyi state but they were maliciously carved into Benue so as to make up the population of Benue south Senatorial zone


http://www.lnc-usa.org/blog/benue-igbo-indigenes-mocked-marginalized-for-identifying-with-biafra-during-the-civil-war/

I've got no problem with any tribe opting out of the idea of Biafra, after all, it is not right to force anyone into what tbey do not want to belong to.


What I have a problem with is when people claim to speak for other tribes in the name of a geographical expression called "Niger Delta"

An Ogoni man is free to say that Ogoni land is not part of Biafra. But when the Ogoni man starts saying that an Efik man is not part of Biafra, that is wrong, it is for the Efik man to speak for himself.

In the issue of Biafra, it is not right for anyone to leave his or her tribe and start speaking for another tribe.

greenpasture:
There are many practical reasons why there will be no Arewa, Oduduwa, Biafra or other postulates. Most people ignore these practicalities because nationhood is an affair of the heart. It's emotive not cognitive so reason is irrelevant.

But I tell you what, we will see restructure , involves an increase in state powers and a similar increase in devolution. This is a moving train no one can stop.

However romantic fantasies of splintered nation are great talking points but useless to the massive preparatory work that needs to be done at state level. Commonsense commentators should aim their guns at our governors otherwise we stand to return a feudal system that is so base that it will make our current ramshackle unitary system look like paradise.

I am looking to engage with practical Commonsense and not nirvana dreamers.

If you are thinking that Nigeria is going to be restructured or that powers are going to be devolved to the states you better forget it. A restructured Nigeria makes no sense to the core North and they are going to fight it every step of the way. To devolve powers, the constitution has to be changed and the core North with their massive control of the legislature are holding all the keys.

So the question is, what will anybody do when the North says no to restructuring?

You all go back to singing the ONE NIGERIA song?

The question sensible people should be asking is what provoked these people to hurl stones the Army? How many times have we heard that the Army were going about their lawful business and people started throwing objects at them for no reason?

It is most likely that the Army did something to draw the anger of the people first.

The Army says that it only fired warning shots but we have seen the picture of the guy shot through the leg.

Saintsammurai:
@attackgat you still do not get my point,, biafra is not from the heart of the people, for the fact that the people failed to develop their natural resources or products like you said and i quote "let Enugu develop her coal" is not a reason to seperate, you made mention of gambia but you fail to realise that USA is great today because of her diversity and large population... Nobody will stop ABIA or Enugu from developing their products just as washington wont stop california from developing her products..

What do yoy mean Biafra is not from the hearts of the people? Are you in the hearts of the people? If you really care about what is in the hearts of the people,
, support a referendum like Kanu let the people speak for themselves. If Igbos vote by a majority to remain part of Nigeria, the issue of Biafra will die forever.

Diversity and population does not mean anything if the country is not working as a nation. Switzerland has a population of just 8 million people but has a bigger GDP than Nigeria. Belgium is just 10 million people but is richer than Nigeria.

Nigeria is stopping the Igbo nation because the coal in Enugu and the limestone in Abakiliki is not under the Igbo nation, it is under the Nigerian ministry of solid minerals.

The Oil and Gas in places like Ohaji, Aguleri, Ukwa is under NNPC. The Coal in Enugu is under Nigerian Coal Corporation. Igbo land does not control its resources because we are under Nigeria. Nigeri decide what we use, when and how.

It is time for the Igbo nation to be independent and manage its self outside Nigeria

Saintsammurai:
Read inbetween the lines,,,Easterners dont need biafra, biafra is an idea fueled by dangerous motives...The people should not give in to Nnamdi kanu.. there are other ways to develop the east than biafra...Nnamdi kanu, just like ojukwu and few other men are snakes and enemies of a true easterner.

Which idea made you a Nigerian? Dont you see that as a Nigerian, you are much worse than Kanu? At least Kanu is asking for a referendum so that the people can decide if they want Biafra or not, which is democratic.


But your Nigeria was created by and is been kept together by force of arms which is much worse than the way Kanu wants Biafra to comme.

As a Nigerian, you are nothing more than a British colonial product.



The motivation for Biafra is freedom. It is time for the Igbo nation and the minorities who comfortable with us, to be independent. If there are no minorities that are comfortable with us, we go it alone.

Gambia is just 1.8 million people, not even up to the population of the city of Onitsha, but Gambia is a sovereign nation. The Igbo nation should be independent. Let the Abakiliki man develop his limestone, let the Ezza/Izzi man develop his agriculture, let the Nnewi man develop his auto-mobile industry, let the Aguleri/Otu ocha man develop his Oil, let the Enugu man develop his coal etc

We have to start thinking bigger than Nigeria but we must first start by being and independent nation.