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A pathetic attempt to show Igbo support for APC. They just got a few Northerners, dressed them in Igbo regalia and took pictures with Femi Adeshina

Absolutely laughable.

bakynes:
You tried but do you know it's a two party agreement, bilateral relationship between two nations, even the UN cannot force Nigeria to sign bilateral agreements with Biafra.

It is a completely different scenario when two nations separate from each other in not a peaceful manner.

Nigeria controls ECOWAS so don't expect ECOWAS to be on your side. Remember the blockage from Cameroon during the Civil War.

The Land use act solely rest the land on the hands of the state. The Land use act for Foreigners is different from Citizens. Why do you think Lagos state enforces all residents to pay the Land use charge if not will have you evicted from the house you built with your money.

Getting Biafra is like Denouncing the Nigerian citizenship so therefore all rights accused to Citizens is hereby withdrawn.

Even Britain leaving the EU has made EU to now introduce trade tarrifs on the UK,one that used to be free trade zone. Now they have to pay heavily to get products and goods into Britain.

You are ignorant. Britain left the EU last year in a referendum, but at the moment, Britain is still a full member of the EU fir another 18 months as they discuss the terms of disengagement.

If there is a referendum in Igbo land and Igbos vote to be independent, Nigeria has no power to sieze or ask Igbos to return to Igbo land the next day.

The Nigerian constitution states that the 3 ways a person can be a Nigerian citizen

1) If they are born in Nigeria

2) If either parents is a Nigerian

3)Naturalization.


What no1 means is that since most Igbos were born in Igbo land, they will still hold Nigerian citizenship until the day Igbo land is declared independent of Nigeria and no longer a Nigerian territory.

Another thing no 1 means is that Igbos like me who were born outside Igbo land but elsewhere in Nigeria can hold Nigerian citizenship forever (unless citizenship by birth is removed from the constitution)

The combination of no1 and no2 means that most Igbos will hold Nigerian citizenship until the day Biafra is declared independent while others such as me can hold Nigerian citizenship indefinitely.

But anyone thinking that a referendum result granting Igbos independence automatically means that Igbos can be kicked out of Nigeria and their properties siezed should forget the idea since it would be unconstitutional.

The truth

There are many tribes in the South of Nigeria whos only ambition is to beg the North for restructuring for the next 1000 years.

EMMAUGOH:
1.Is it to give full power to Northern Army?

2. To allow players feed from their effort? Which we have seen in the past 50yrs.

2. To make sure the Biafrans becomes part of suffering Nigerians in years latter ?

3. To Excite the Britons and make sure their Business is protected.

All this and other questions begs for answers..

Its simple, the North wanted to control the political and economic life of Nigeria. Thats the only thing they care about even to this day.

Yorubas and the Western Region was a 'walk over' for the North. Only the East under Ojukwu refused refuses to cow or bow down to the North.

Thats why there had to be a war. Only people with the heart to fight can confront the North

NeeKlaus:
Yes, they can be sold. Now, picture this rational thought please.

The moment you Igbos eventually get your wish and a referendum is conducted and it goes in your favour, Nigeria will be ordered to sever ties with the SE.

Now, immediately this is achieved, Igbos would become illegal Nationals in Nigeria and will be forced to flee their places of residence to Biafra. In a violence prone place like the North, do you HONESTLY BELIEVE they will have the time to sell their properties before fleeing?? Be very honest because all I can see is Xenophobia being the result in the end.

Many of you don't give thought to these important details of secession. I laugh in Hebrew.

It is people like you who dont think. It is not possible for Nigeria to just sever all ties like that, it is not possible. If Igbos get their independence, there will be a 'transition period' when Nigerian and Biafran leaders discuss the terms of disengagement and the sharing of assets and liabilities.

But there is something even more important. Since you know that Northern Nigeria is a violent prone area, why do you want Igbos to be doing ONE NIGERIA with violent prone people?

Is it not only someone who is living that enjoys properties and assets?

ajl:
You probably closing your eyes to the economic cost which has serious implication to whatever agitation your folks have. Who want to lose all he has worked for decades over an uncertain future. More so they say "once bitten twice shy".

People never lose their properties because of citizenship. They are protected by international law.

GeneralTee:
Where is this secret recording? We have records of Banjo's trial but how come this secret recording cannot be found anywhere?

I can only assume it got lost in the war but the book says that Banjo and Ifeajuna were secretly recorded by Ben Odogwu at a meeting they had at progress Hotel Enugu where they were putting finishing touches their plan to overthrowing Ojukwu.

It included arresting Ojukwu at the state house. The taoes were played at the trial that helped nail Banjo

bankylan:
You need to think deep.........When you want self determination, you lose your rights to whatever you own in the present Nigeria. For landlords in Lagos, you lose your property and become illegals in present Nigeria.......The bigger problem is that the Ibos can not live together as one. The Biafra dream does not have the full support of the elites in Ibo land....These Elites will never see Kanu as the one capable of charting the course of their lives. Do you think Jim Ovia and Elumelu will be part of Biafra? I must say this: if Biafra ever comes to fruition, it wont last more than 6 months. I have dealt with some Ibos in time past.....they can't just be together for a common goal.

Well I dont k ow what planet you live on but people do not lose their investments foe not being citizens of a country. Igbos will not lose any of their properties, assets or investments because they are protected by international law.

If countries could sieze properties just based on citizenship then it means that Ethiopia can sieze Dangote's cement plant in Ethiopia because Dangote is not Ethiopian?

It means that Britain can sieze Abuja house where Buhari just came back from because it is owned by Nigeria?

If Jim Ovia or Elumelu dont want Biafra, they should campaign for a "no" vote when referendum comes but they must accept however the will of the majority, that is democracy.

As for saying that Igbos wont be able to live with themselves is just mere speculation.

Thats how the sitting room of a cattle rearer should be.

Isnt he the idiot who called for Kanu's arrest?

omenkaLives:
Are you saying he doesn't have one?

Im saying that I dont care what he has, the Igbo nation must eventually become independent of Nigeria wether Kanu has ever seen the four walls of a school or not.

omenkaLives:
Agreed. Can we now see his certificates or statement of result?

It doesnt matter if Nnamdi Kanu ever went to School, he is a freedom fighter not a politician. School cerficates is not a pre-requsite to agitate for freedom.

omenkaLives:
Good morning.

I come in peace.

For sometime now, concerned observers like myself have been asking some questions about the supposedly unblemished (according to his followers) leader of the Indigenous People of Biafra, Mazi Nnamdi Kanu. It is on record most of these queries, simple as they sound, have been met with nothing but insults. It is my sincere hope this would go differently.

Now, alot have been said about this young man and alot has he said. He is not the first of his kind the world has seen and he certainly wouldn't be the last. What seems, though, to set other secessionist leaders of "freedom fighters" apart from him is that the records of his past are as obscure as they come!

The business of secession is one heck of a serious business whose significance should never be underemphasised. If a country were to break away from Nigeria, I as a patriotic citizen of Nigeria would like to be rest assured I wouldn't end up with some very unstable and aggressive neighbors because that would have undesirable consequences for my own state Security. For this reason, I'd like to have the assurance, no matter how unlikely it is, that such a country is in face hands and being in safe hands implies safe brains.

With this foundation laid, I'd like to know what exactly are Mazi Kanu's educational qualifications and what intellectual property or exploits can we ascribe to him? What schools did Mazi Nnamdi Kanu attend and what grades did he graduate those schools with?

Does Mazi Kanu have any intellectual property, say a book or a publication, to his credit? Has he ever addressed a gathering of intellectuals or scholars?

Kanu says he wants a debate, a renown Igbo man volunteered, and the next thing we hear is "the man isn't intelligent enough!

President Buhari graduated Secondary school probably over 30 years before Kanu did (that is if he did) yet to this day, he's still being abused, notably by IPOB supporters, for not graduating secondary school or at best "presenting a fake WASSC result" where he failed this subject and that.. Can we see copy Of Mazi Nnamdi Kanu's WASSC result or even a "fake copy" with all the distinctions he had?

Can we have the names or photographs of Kanu's class mates?

The "UK university" Mazi Kanu allegedly attended has either been scrapped or barred from issuing certificates since it didn't meet the bare minimum standards for such institutions in the West. Can we see a copy of the certificate issuedMazi Kanu upon his graduation from that school? Who were his mates in that school?

When questions arose about his previous employment records and attempts were made to answer them without the usual insults, we all know what a disaster that turned out to be as the records revealed a man literally living on the fringes of starvation.

Just as my President was and is still being asked these very important questions, with a full accompaniment of derogatory comments, I imagine it is well within my right to also make such inquiries about the "Supreme Leader" of those who ask similar questions about my country's leader.

Thank you.

Perpetual unity begger

MalcoImX:
The leadership defines the followership. To me, what you can do to help Kanu, iPoB and the Biafra cause is by honestly answering some of these questions.

Let me put it in laymans terms so you will understand.

When Zik was leading his group and agitating for the independence of Nigeria from Britain, would you have asked him any questions? Of course you wouldnt have, because you would have known that Nigeria being independent is the right thing. Fortunately for Zik, he was dealing with the British who are civilised enough to realise that it is not good to hold people against their will indefinitely. Eventually, Nigeria became independent and Nigerians still celebrate this on the 1st of October every year.


Well, the same thing applies to Nnamdi Kanu. Just like Zik, Kanu is leading his group to agitate for the independence of the Igbo nation and the minorities who are comfortable with Igbos, to be indeoendent of Nigeria. The only difference is that Kanu is dealing with uncivilised Nigerians who unlike the British, think that holding people against their will is how things are done.

If you can understand the right of Nigeria to be independent of Britain then you should have no problem understanding the right of Igbos being independent of Nigeria.

I found it very embarrasing thst some of our Igbo folks could criticise Kanu that someone bowed to him.

Did Kanu ask anyone to bow to him or kiss his shoes? If someone decides to bow to Kanu, what has that got to do with Kanu?

Some of our people can be disappointing.

I think its hypocritical for people to say that Banjo believed the unity of Nigeria yet, the same Banjo became a brigadier in the Biafran Army and commanded a Biafran Army division.

What is someone who believes in ONE NIGERIA doing in the Biafran Army?

Banjo, Ifeajuna, Mr Abam and Mr Alale all plotted to topple Ojukwu and they were arrested before they could perfect their plan, were tried and executed.

The details of their arrest and excerpts of their trial can be found in "No place to hide: Crises and conflicts inside Biafra"


Banjo was secretly recorded as he plotted to overthrow Ojukwu and paid the price all failed coup plotters pay

The car is the country, the passegers are all of us, the Engine is the economy and the Engine oil is national unity.


Buhari is like the driver of a car with a bad engine who is promising to do his best to take his passengers to their destination. As the car tries to move, all the passengers watch the engine oil draining out.............

I dont know how someone can take time to be asking stupid daft questions that do not matter.

Kanu is just the leader of an independence movement. What people should be concerned is the movement its self nit the leadership. Its bit like like leaving the message to focus on the messenger.

The important question is if the Igbo nation still wants to be part of the 1914 British colonial arrangement called Nigeria? Kanu or no Kanu, the question remains to be answered

MalcoImX:
The "indigenous people" are vulnerable tribesmen, undeveloped and mostly have subsistent economies, akin to those of hunting and gathering economies. Nigeria too have the right to protect its sovereignty.

You dont even know what indigenous is. The tribes who existed before the creation of Nigeria, the original owners of the land.

The sovereignty of Nigeria is based on the agreement of the people. Sovereignty comes from the people and the people can withdraw it any time. Those who decide they want their sovereignty back are then given a referendum to test the will of the people same as Britain gave Scotland.

Tkester:
Let's take an online vote.

Only igbos in Anambra should participate.

If you're in favor of election boycott click like.

If you're against election boycott click share.

There is no need for that, November 18th will tell. As an Anambra man, Im hoping that at least 70% of the Anambra electorate will stay at home and boycott the election. That is is enough to make the boycott a success and send a message to Nigeria that the Igbo nation winding up its participation in this British colonial contraption called Nigeria

MalcoImX:
The right to self I determination of true indigenous people does not necessarily mean partitioning a country into different units. You ate propagating what you don't understand. The Igbo people, by the UN definition, do not qualify as "indigenous people."

Really? Which ethnic group then qualifies as indigenous? Besides, what is really the arguement here? That a group of people have decided not to be part of an enforced 1914 colonial arrangement called Nigeria. Naturally, those peoole should be granted a referendum.

MalcoImX:
I am just saying what I think a sensible person shouldn't do. Don't confront the army!! It is a crime in Nigeria to promote secessionist tendencies. The best the man could have done was to contact a lawyer, if he thinks his rights had been trampled on.
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Third world reasoning. Who told it is a crime to promote secession? It is the right of people to agitate for secession and Nigeria is a signatory to several international laws on the right to self determination. Agitation for secession only becomes a crime when people take up arms.

Nigerians still act like we are in military rule. Nigerians are so backward that they still think that all Nigerian Soldiers are allowed impunity and to shoot at will. This is not true.

AnanseK:
"The Guy Disarmed The Soldiers Magazine And Burst His Head With It...."


So you think it's okay for keke rider to do this to a soldier? You see nothing wrong in doing that?

The Keke Rider is allowed to do that if the Soldier was about to shoot him for no good reason.

Self defence is recognised in law

It is really an intruguing prospect considering the strategic location of Obuaku. I fear that the viability of Obuaku city is tied to the realisation of Biafra

trueconscience:
Again at night, it was back on, spreading hate, advising Igbos in the North to return home. Repeatedly focused on the noun "hausa-Fulani". Talks about "our oil wells are owned by northerners" and the need for Biafra.

The station didn't fail to speak against the Anambra November 18,2017 election. Saying anybody who voted in the election would die along with their families!

What is Nigeria Broadcasting Corporation (NBC) doing?

Hate is being planted. Propaganda is at work. The storm is being cultivated. Remember Rwanda

It is well with Nigeria

Where is the hate speech in all you wrote?

Arent most oil wells in the hands of Northerners?

How is asking Igbos to return from the North where they have been butchared since 1945 hate speech?

How is asking people to boycott elections hate speech?

Go and do something worthwhile with your time rather than spewing trash

40kobo77:
Yes i concur.

They think war is a joke. They think live bullets is like in the movies.

They will know. I blame Buhari for all these rubbish. Instead of him to lock Kanu up,and use the federal might to shutdown any agitation from those separatist parading as IPOB,he is still looking at them.

Cut off the head of the Snake,and you will see the other cowards run into their shops at 9th mile,and they will never show their faces again.

Unfortunately for you, military rule is not the same civilian rule. In civilian rule, anyone is allowed to agitate about anything, be it Biafra or otherwise. If you dont like what they are agitating for, you can either remove chapter 4 of the 1999 constitution or jump down a lake.

paBuhari:
They give a blind eye to historical genocides against Igbos since the 1940s to hide their hypocrisy.

Of course. They like to paint the fact that everything started with Nzeogwu's coup in 1966 but the truth is that tje massacre of Igbos had been an ongoing thing since 1945.

The reason why the federal government does not encourage the teaching of the history of the Biafran war is because if they did so, it would expose the evil and genocide commited against Igbos by the North. People would learn that far from being a war monger like Ojukwu is painted to be, Ojukwu did all he could to prevent war.

adeusidada:
the man is just gaining popularity for nothing... how I wish my fellow Igbos are wise enough and promote unity

I STAND WITH ONE NIGERIA

The unity others before you have been promoting since 1914, where is Nigeria today?

Nnandi Kanu said that if he is arrested, his followers should burn Nigeria down.


What this means is that Kanu has to be arrested first? But he not been arrested abd so far, IPOB has not been violent.

Comedians. Is Kanu's location a hidden secret? He is in his fathers palace in Afaraukwu, Umu Ahia.

We are shall get there

It was a long read, I took the time to read to the end hoping the writter would make a point. He made none. The only thing of substance I could grab from the write up was that the youth should aspire to more elective office.

I laugh at these people who offer solutions to the Nigerian problem without addressing the root-cause of the problem. That is no good.

The writter said:

I write this piece with tears uncontrollably dropping down my cheeks.

I do not know how to get myself together. I have taken time to study the political situation of our dear nation and the future of the nobodies of which I am number one.

Which dear nation? Nigeria is the dear nation of who? Im an Igbo man, how is a mere 1914 colonial arrangement called Nigeria my dear nation?

So the writter is crying for a colonial contraption that has since passed on to the control of Northern feudalists based Sokoto?

So the writter is crying for a system of bondage that has perpetually enslaved and marginalised my Igbo people? One that cost them over 3 million souls?

So the writter is crying over a broken system that has not worked since 1960?

Please let us stop this lie which the writter is helping to spread. Hold a referendum so that those who think Nigeria is their "dear country" can vote accordingly and continue with the dream while those of us choking and begging for air since 1914 can leave this 'stuffy' union for fresh air.