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obailala:
Unfortunately, most of the people killed were killed because they lived within enemy territories. But the real sad news about all these is that even if Biafra is carved out today, it will not still stop Igbos from living all over Nigeria and all over the world, including within enemy territories; it is a cultural thing for Igbos to travel far and wide, how would Biafra change that?

Maybe true but the only difference is that if Igbos have their own country and Government, where ever Igbos are massacred will have to answer to that government of Biafra, unlike the situation where Igbos will be massacred in Nigeria and it will be called "Nigerian domestic affair"

Realchidi:
As a full blooded Igbo man, born and bred in the east, I make bold to claim that the current agitation for Biafra is ill-thought out and misdirected. Here are my reasons;
1. Igbo's are the real Nigerians: Igbo's are found absolutely everywhere in Nigeria from north to south. In these places, our people generally have good relationships with their hosts and are the bedrock of commercial activities. They have become very successful through hardwork and also the enabling conditions provided by their hosts. One should not abandon a project he is part and parcel of. It simply makes no sense. There are millions of Igbo's in Lagos who are Lagosians to the core and can't live anywhere else. That's how Nigerian we are. Seceding from Nigeria will be an economic disaster for Igbo's as they would loose billions invested all over Nigeria. Let nobody fool you, leaving Nigeria for Biafra means loosing your properties and businesses.

Isrealis are found in all corners of the Globe. They control big industries from America to Germany and even Nigeria.

Chinese are found all over the world, the control big businesses and construction from Asia to Europe to Nigeria

Indians are found all over the world, even my Doctor here in Enugu is an Indian.

Yet Isrealis have the state of Isreal, Chinese have the Peoples Republic of China and India has Republic of India.

Yet in your mind, Igbos cannot have Republic of Biafra because of the same investments others have?

What a shame

2. Igbo land lacks the infrastructure to support secession:
Secession is not achieved by mere speeches and rallies. What plans and structures are in place to support the second Biafra? At present, the south east lacks the basic infrastructure ranging from roads, housing, water supply, power etc to be self reliant. The five south east states are landlocked meaning our external trade will be at the prerogative of hostile neighbours. Food production is almost nonexistent in the south east save for Ebonyi state. One would have expected those agitating to first hold our governors and legislators in the east accountable for not developing Igbo land. Rather we have decided to shift all the blame to the centre forgetting that our sons and daughters are also part of the decision making at the centre!

Igbos once had Biafra and survived despite being blockaded from land, Sea and Air under war conditions. It is now you think Igbos cannot survive? Also, Igbo land is not 5 states. There are over 1 million Igbos carved into Benue (Umueze-Okoha people)

There are millions of ethnic Igbos in Delta state and Rivers state. Biafra was never about just Igbos only but even if it was, Igbos can trade with world using Onitsha River port or the proposed ports at Oguta in Imo or the Obuaku Sea port in Abia which I heard is even closer to the Ocean than Portharcourt.

The common man cannot hold political office holders to account, the Nigerian system does not permit that. How can you hold a Governor with powers of immunity accountable? How can you hold a Local Govt chaiman with all the security apparatus and money of his area accountable? There is no accountability in Nigeria and this is one of the reasons for Biafra, a state where people can be made accountable because the Nigerian system is no longer there.

3. Disunity and Political immaturity: In Nigerian politics, we have continually refused to get it right and that confusion will be amplified in Biafra. Politics is a game of compromises and building alliances. The Hausa's and Yoruba's know this and it has helped them in holding on to power. Tinubu abandoned his personal ambitions for the greater good of his people by allowing Osinbajo to be vice president today. We Igbo's have no sense of sacrifice as its always about self. While that individualistic thinking may help in business, it is useless in politics. Our people generally show apathy to activities related to national politics as exhibited during the last census and even during voters registration. This immaturity while rear its ugly head in Biafra where different south east states will be locked in clannish bickering. We were once given the slot for Senate president and we ensured it went round the five states! Ipob calling for a boycott of the Anambra elections is another example of political immaturity.

If unity is is a criteria for self determination then Nigeria should not be because Nigerians are one of the most disunited people on earth. Personally, I dont see why Igbos should be jostling with Hausas and Yorubas for political position in Nigeria when they can have their own country and stop the jostling. Did Lugard bring us together to be fighting for positions?

4. Secession in Africa means war:
There is no such thing as peaceful secession in Africa. Africans are yet to attain that level of having major disagreements without blood letting. South Sudan is a good example. The current agitation for Biafra will lead to war for two major readons. One is the continuous inclusion of Niger delta states in the Biafra project. This a very dangerous move. The second is the loss of properties. Anyone thinking that Biafra will be achieved peacefully is in dreamland. And war will spell disaster for Igbo's as we can't match the might of the Nigerian Armed forces. At least not now. Those calling for a referendum should know that the government of the day will never let that happen.

Only people with backward mentality keep saying that secession is not possible in Africa without war. The days of war are over. Eventually, with the right kind of pressure, Nigeria will grant referendum. It should be noted that this is no longer an Igbo affair. The call to secede from Nigeria is now being called in the SW, SS and even parts of the North. The people you are calling 'Niger Delta' are even more tired of Nigeria than Igbos.

As for saying that the great Igbo nation is no match for the Nigerian Army, ask your self this. Could the Nigerian military might defeat the Niger Delta militants? Could it defeat Boko Haram? But when it comes to a 40 million strong Igbo nation, you are sure that the Nigeria Army will perform magic? I laugh in Igbo

The way forward for we Igbo's is to look inwards and examine ourselves first. Injustice abounds in Nigeria and anyone denying it is a liar. However, Igbo's should learn on how to fight for their rights within the Nigerian state and not seeking to leave at the slightest provocation. The people of the Niger delta agitated more control of their resources in militant fashion but never talked of seccesion. Moreover the masses face the same challenges whether in the north or east. Secession is not the solution. No amount of name calling will change these facts. Let's be bold and fight for our rights in Nigeria, the giant of Africa.

They way foward is for everyone to recognise that it is the inalinable right of the Igbo nation to decide for its self if it wants to be part of the British colonial experiment called Nigeria. The Igbo nation has already lost millions of souls simply for being of the colonial contraption called Nigeria and I dont see whatever benefit Nigeria can ever be to equal what we have lost. I enjoin Nigeria to choose referendum over war. Lugard made us all Nigerians, we should not be killing our selves over the legacy of the white man, it makes us look foolish.

Let a referendum be held in the SS/SE and the lower Benue allowing all to vote. Those who love Nigeria can continue while those who want to go should go.

Only a fool hopes for peace and happiness while holding people against their will.

ipobarecriminals:
Talk to that FRAUDSTER KANU to stop the hate speech.The family of the people his ipob miscreants killed are still mourning.Only the PIGS and IDIOTAS support KANU

So you more interested in Kanu's hate speech than those that are killing people?

Your so called Nigeria has been killing people

Boko Haram are killing people

Herdsmen are killing people

Cultists are killing people

Your Nigerian security forces are killing people


But what concerns you more than anything is what Kanu said or didnt say?

Get serious with your life

JasonScolari:
Oh really?

Would you be able to sleep well at night if you found out that Ibori has just been appointed CBN Governor?

Realchidi:
As a full blooded Igbo man, born and bred in the east, I make bold to claim that the current agitation for Biafra is ill-thought out and misdirected. Here are my reasons;
1. Igbo's are the real Nigerians

Read below and find out why Nigeria has been bad news for Igbos.


History

1945 Jos Riots:- Hundreds of Igbos killed

1953 Kano massacre:- Hundreds of Igbo massacred

July 1966:- Over 300 Igbo officers of the Nigerian Army murdered

1966:- Over 50,000 Igbos, men, women and children massacred all over the North

1967-70:- Over 3 million souls lost in the civil war in the name of 'one Nigeria'

Other situations where Igbos have been killed are:


Kano 1980
Maiduguri 1982
Jimeta 1984
Gombe 1985
Zaria 1987
Kaduna & Kafanchan 1991
Bauchi & Katsina 1991
Kano 1991
Zangon-Kataf 1992
Funtua 1993
Kano 1994
Kaduna 2000
Kaduna 2001
Maiduguri 2001
Maiden Crisis-Setember 2001
Kaduna 2002
Jos-November 2008
Beheading of Gideon Akaluka in December of 1996 in a POLICE STATION in Kano
Saint Moritz killed December 2001
25. Post April 2011 Presidential Election: 10 youth-corps men & women and numerous citizens murdered because a Christian Southerner was elected.
Jos Christmas Eve 2010
Madalla Christmas day 2011
Mubi January 6 2012


This is the cost of "One Nigeria"

Convicted criminal and a common thief.

hermosa7:
Shut down my foot. People stayed back mainly for fear of violence and to enjoy the benefit the 'holiday' has to offer.
Keep on wasting your time crying over an unrealisable dream while your fellow millennials elsewhere are doing something worthwhile with their lives.

Laughable. If people stayed back home out of fear of violence then it is fear of the Nigerian security forces. All the violence, shootings and killings has been Nigeria that did them. IPOB is not violent and is yet to touch anyone. The people know who is the violent side in this agitation. Everywhere Kanu goes, mammoth crowds come to welcome him. Its not difficut to see who the people support.

As for saying the dream is 'unrealisable', the same was said of Zik, Awolowo and co when they began their own agitation for independence.

It is impossible to hold anyone or any people against their will forever.

oladeebo:
you didn't get it right
is anybody said kanu is not Nigerian? it's kanu who said he is in zoo!
go to anywhere in the world there is place of tradition and culture, and the self determination that kanu is exercising, is basically on the protection of culture and tradition! nothing more!
if kanu shy away with culture and tradition, means he didn't even know what exactly he is fighting for!

He may be in a zoo, but until he gets his freedom, he is entitled to go where ever he likes

Misleading headline. What Ikpeazu said is that "idle mind is the Devils worshop"

Which can be refered to anybody

hermosa7:
He doesn't have the character nor does he have the intelligence of Odumegwu Ojukwu. So he doesn't command respect from core Igbos. It's a wise thing to let him fade off nicely. If you put him in prison, you turn him to another Mandela.

Would the "core Igbos" include the ones who shut down the entire South East on the 30th of May?

oladeebo:
but sorry, if you cross into other territory, as a visitor you lost your culture for the culture of your host!

Not really

ONE NIGERIA means that there is no 'host'. As long as there is still Nigeria, Ibadan and Lagos are part of Igbo land.

This guy cant speak a word of Igbo. Im not sure he can even make his way to his village if left alone.

Sorry but prostrating does not exist in Igbo culture. Even bowing is very rare.

ariesbull:
Don't you see it

Nobody has seen it since 1960

shineeye1:
The East must divorce the Struggle from KANU. KANU is misguiding the Struggle. The earlier the East settles this, the better. KANU is too short for that tall dream. He is using a borrowed shoe many times over his size. When you send a kid to take delivery of explosives, you are in for a long thing!

At the best, KANU should be one of the foot soldiers for the legitimate campaign. He obviously displays a gross deficit in the Sagacity, the intellectual depth, the mien, composure, comportment and political dexterity required for such a Titanic struggle. Talk of a toddler stranding in for a valiant man' s job! Is the East so deficient of Men

Well you better find the shoe fast because at this point in time, only him can command almost 100% loyalty from the East such as the sit-at-home order

darlenese:
@ 35
No wife
No child
what is he celebrating

is he celebrating his dada

msheeew


nobody should quote me with the crap of marriage isn't everything. rubbish

Its about finding the right partner, not marrying for the sake marrying.

I have to hand it to the guy, he dresses very well

It shall be well with Igbo land

Kanu will come to Lagos and nothing will happen!

Not everyone is a self confessed Gambari slave

sarrki:
According to him, while no narrative is superior enough to displace the nation’s corporate existence, agitations are largely self-serving rather than altruistic

Really Osibanjo? So self deternination, sovereignty and the will of the ethnic nationalities dont mean anything? What means everything is the mere 1914 colonial arrangement called Nigeria? Shameful

The acting president continued: “I want to advise that we must not repeat the errors of the past. I must also commend the Institute of Security Studies for providing this important platform for reflection on the subject of the corporate existence of Nigeria in its diversity

Then agree that referenfum is a peaceful and democratic way of resolving dispute.
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Also speaking at the event, former head of state, Gen. Yakubu Gowon, warned that no nation has ever survived multiple civil wars.

Gowon who was chairman of the occasion appealed to youths to refuse to be canon-fodders, just as he warned against hiding under the cover of freedom of expression to promote divisive positions.

[quote]He said, “These calls for division are not good for our democracy. What the DSS has done with this seminar is to demonstrate that the state security is primarily about the relentless pursuit of the good of society and its people, not guns and daggers as oftentimes perceived.

Gowon, Chief unity begger of Nigeria

All Nigerians should love their country”

Yes, those who consider themselves "Nigerians"

On his part, the director general of the DSS, Lawal Daura, vowed to deal with individuals and groups that threaten the inviolability and sanctity of the Nigerian state.

Sanctity of Nigeria? Which sanctity? The one we all agreed to or the one Lugard and his wife agreed to?

He said the unity of the nation is a “sacred trust” that links security with governance.

I laugh in Igbo, a colonial fraud is now a sacred trust lol

While recognising efforts by some well-meaning individuals to maintain peace, the DG said the Service is worried by the “toxicity” of ethnic agitations.

His words: “In recent times, centrifugal forces have been at work in our great nation, trying their utmost to pull us apart. They have vainly leveraged on our ethnic, geographical and religious cleavages- the key factors that constitute our very rich tapestry of cultural treasure and diversity- to ignite hate speeches and stoke ethnic cum religious tensions nationwide.

“Sundry youth groups and individuals, with diverse subversive agendas have latched unto this latest manifestation of ethno-religious divisions to afflict the national stage and consciousness with their atavistic and retrogressive utterances as well as infantile threats.

“Undoubtedly, these utterances and threats have spawned, in their wake, considerable anxiety among law-abiding, ordinary citizens residing in different parts of the country”.


http://leadership.ng/2017/08/03/hate-speeches-breeding-ground-genocide-osinbajo/

This Daura is a comedian. He doesnt know anything about self determination. All he knows is that the British made Igbo/Hausa/ Yoruba into ONE NIGERIA and so shall it remain because the will of the British is more supreme than the will of the indigenous people of the land. Lol

zionmade1:
Igbos in lagos dont need that biafra protest. Why carry the protest to lagos? why not abuja? Lagos is not a biafran land and anybody so interested to join biafra agitation should leave lagos and take a stroll back to the east. Why go to another man's land to forment trouble and wen u ve gone Igbos there would be left alone to mop up the mess.

I remember that in the last Governorship elections in Anambra, some aspirants such as Ngige , Obiano and Ifeanyi Uba all took their campaign train to Lagos.

I didnt hear anyone asking what Anambra elections have to do with Lagos

Kanu is ok. If you want to get things done in Nigeria, you cannot afford to be a gentleman

No such thing being diplomatic in Nigeria unless you want Nigerians to mop the floor with your diplomatic a$$

I am tired of ONE NIGERIA

defashan:
Are you ok at all??

Kanu is Nigeria's numero uno enemy of the state. He is not a Nigerian. Since his madness started, we have been hearing of seccesaion, secession, zoo and animals. The current restructuring cries, I give him tht credit for that was as a result of his secession craziness but he is full of hate, bile and disrespect.

Why would he come to Lagos and kaduna?
Has he got a Nigerian passport? Has he been cleared by the immigration? What would he be coming to do?

He should be happy to have prolonged his life a bit for now because of that decision.

Even if he decides to visit Christian n dominated southern kaduna, don't you flat heads know that Dan Fulani wouldn't be the only fulani hosts waiting to welcome him?

How far is his kaduna destination away from those boko boys?
Don't you know that it would've been a perfect opportunity for a 15 year old boko boy to harvest lots of souls of kaduna christians plus the man who insults them everyday.

The biggest loser here is not even Kanu. It's the Fulani herdsmen who would've sent 'diginitaries' to meet him and also boko boys who would have used this perfect opportunity to scatter bodies.

Kanu's scattered body parts would've fetched 72 hot beauties.

Hypocrite! You are looking for ONE NIGERIA but you want to tell Kanu what brand of ONE NIGERIA you want from him before he can go where he wants? It doesnt work like that.

If you dont like the language Kanu uses, support his cause so he can go his way. Kanu is within his riggt to say whatever he wants, call Nigeria whatever he wishes and insult whom ever he feels like. If you dont like it, change chapter 4 of the Nigerian constitution which gives him freedom of speech, expression and movement.

That is the price of ONE NIGERIA, accomodating everybody wether you like it or not.

The good thing is that Kanu wants to go his way with his people. So support him to go and then he can go. But as long as you Nigerians insist on ONE NIGERIA, you have to take the heat that comes with it

WORDSENSEI:
No you idiot. No one says he shouldn't visit. He must not hold any taunting festival under the guise of a freedom rally in ANY state outside the SE or SS.
Thank you.

Oh shut up man! He is allowed to taunt anyone he likes under his freedom of speech. If you dont like it, support his ambition to get his country and then he can go his way.

The real funny thing about these Nigerians saying that Kanu cancelled his intended visit to Kaduna is that they help to confirm that ONE NIGERIA is an almighty sham.

So Kanu should not visit Lagos or Kaduna or you people will deal with him?

What happend to "Nigeria belongs to all of us"? So there are places that Kanu is not allowed to go because he wants Biafra?

Kanu has been all over the world from China to Japan, Malaysia to Israel holding Biafran rallies and nobody touched him

But it is the same country that claims to love Kanu and his tribe that are saying they will deal with Kanu if he goes to certain areas?

Hypocrisy everywhere

Rather than focus on what FFK said in 2013, lets focus on what he is saying now.

In 2013, FFK was all for ONE NIGERIA. Today he is a supporter of Biafra and Oduduwa Republics

The passage of time changes people perception of things

aAK1:
its a job sir. even jesus called it his fathers business

Its not a job, selfless service to humanity and God should not be a job.

A true man of God should not be moved by money. Im not saying that a man if God shouldnt wear good cloths and drive a good car but there is a big difference between living well and living ostentatiously.

What is a man of God doing with a Limo when there are probably members of his congregation who cant feed 3 times a day?

What is a true man of God doing with more than one personal car?

The man is talk8ng as if the ministry of God is a job.

"If you labour, you enjoy the rewards"

This is not the mindset a man of God should have. It is not the name of God that a man of God should be using to drive Rolls Royce in a country with 70% porverty rate.

Yorubakwe cannot debate Kanu because he has only three points

1) That Igbos have invested too much in Nigeria

2)That Igbos have settled in different places in Nigeria and put down roots

3) That a big united Nigeria is greater than a smaller Biafra.


Unfortunately for Yorubakwe, anyone can destroy these three points using the Scottish independence referendum of 2014

iamhorny:
we will see how resilient YOLICOM will be and if they have the ability to resist all the rejections and side pressures and also sustain their struggle like IPOB and not be bought and fade over time

Resilient? Their press conference and declaration is the first and last you will hear of them.

We know Yorubas too well.


It is easy to abuse and criticise Nnamdi Kanu but it is not easy to do what he does.

Young03:
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