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MikeZA: Diesel submarines are DEADLY!!!!

The submarine can go to the operational area to hunt,attack and conduct surveillance.

Pulling out to recharge its batteries after a long time somewhere. Come back to attack again!!!!!!!


Detecting a periscope is difficult,unless the when the ocean is calm.

With rough conditions like such as the waters around SA,waves make it extremely difficult.

What are going to focus on?

Hunt an elusive sub? Or try attack surface vessels?

After every 48 hours your Submarine must surface-snorkel for many hours to recharge battery or else it will sink. That is the great weakness of all diesel submarines.

Those many hours of surface battery recharging is what gets submarines into disaster.

ATR-42 of Nigeria has ultra-Sophisticated equipment for detecting very tiny objects on water no mater the weather or rough sea even in a very heavy clutter environment. It has radar, FLIR, and TV spy camera.

Your snorkeling submarine runs on diesel and releases heavy heat and smoke from it's diesel engine exhaust pipe into the open air for many hours.....Invitation to death by NAF !
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MikeZA: 2 APCs there,20 MRAPs there,2 Tanks there!!!

Nothing like 238 Badger IFVs!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[size=14pt]ONLY one single Badger IFV exists since 2012 that you have been posting photos here

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MikeZA: Pakistanis?

Can they fight? LOOL

Well Saffers hone their submarine ops skills with real navies like the Brazil,Argentina,USA,German,Britain etc

Pakistan will wipe out South Africa in one hour.

SANDF submarines have NEVER fired one single torpedo in the past 60 years
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MikeZA: That's because we have proper operational planning.

We don't just throw numbers to overwhelm the foe,which mostly results in heavy casualties like Nigeria in Liberia and now NE.

Fact is that SANDF has NO capacity to deploy more than 4,000 soldiers at any time, according to your war history in the last 60 years
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MikeZA: Nothing to counter it.

It has a radar warning system.

ATR-42 can turn off radar and use FLIR or TV camera.....Your submarine has NOTHING to counter that !

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MikeZA: Layered air defence.

The twin barrels guns will down it.

How's an APC,Tanks etc going see an incoming paveway bomb?

You wanna get your n...ts smashed again,when it comes to CRAM?

South Africa has no CRAM capability until year 2020.

No army drives armour around without air defense, Roland has radar on ground with 18km detection range, Gripen cannot launch guided bomb without being seen by Roland because your guided bomb range is only 15km.

Your air force is detected by our army before it launches anything.

NAF will also challenge SAAF in the air, so what bullshiit are you writing ?
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Centrifude: Its old news but its still relevant

Chadian troops rescue Nigerians kidnapped this week by Boko Haram

http://africajournalismtheworld.com/2014/08/17/chadian-troops-rescue-nigerians-kidnapped-this-week-by-boko-haram/?relatedposts_hit=1&relatedposts_origin=23876&relatedposts_position=2

Across lake Chad inside Chadian territory....their job, many Boko Haram fighters came from Chad, and those particular Bokos have a base inside Chad living happily there, reason why they quickly crossed into Chad to go home....the Chadians merely cleaned up their own mess
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MikeZA: Because your navy officers are stup----

Your own navy chief of staff cannot navigate a boat or ship on water, so who is really stup---- ?
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MikeZA: I can smell,hear,feel and see this trap.

One word: Classified.

Nope, nothing classified in old version Type 209 submarine that many country's already use for decades.

Is your Submarine radar for air scan of enemy aircraft as @Andrewza claims or sea scan as you people now claim for anti-piracy operations?

Also tell us the range of your OPV-Submarine radar and sonar that will be used to chase pirates from Southern hemisphere to Northern hemisphere in Gulf Of Guinea across ocean expanse measuring over 5 million square kilometers

Don't be afraid to answer, you people said your Submarine is better than our OPV for anti-piracy, so let's compare....answer my questions

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MikeZA: For?

The UN is deploy a force there.

Blame the regional block and AU for the mess.

The world blames South Africa for the mess, and SANDF army chief admits his country is a bad war planner
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MikeZA: Every regional force will have its leadership. And that has not been sorted yet.

Don't conclude without facts.

You should post the facts to prove your claim of "every regional force will have it's leadership".

Uganda is South Africa's next war teacher

SANDF will forever be a crowd follower
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Centrifude: dude don't even bother yourself with that guy, he has an over-active imagination not even my 9 year old nephew is that crazy.

Just let it go bro.

You wrote that South Africa is going to WAR....a war that has no name and location. It's actually you that does over-active imagination

GreenandGold: 4000 troops that whipped the Soviets out of Africa.... meanwhile the NA has tens of thousands of troops deployed yet BH keeps whipping your behind #BringBackOurGirls

History showed the world Pietha Botha commander in chief of SADF begging Cuba on negotiating table.

#ShowUs A Modern WarSANDF EverWon FightingAlone
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GreenandGold: Useless former Soviet junk, who takes Ukrainian weapons serious.

SANDF bought British Starstreak hand held anti-aircraft missiles with the stupiid 1km altitude of a Catapult....perfect junk

https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/media/english/fullsize/c/cat/catap/catapult.jpg
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GreenandGold: Yah I have been training on a spaceship, my friends know it.

Show us proof, even it is a blog, at least we will see a 'source'
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Breaking News : Nigeria Negotiating BTR-4E APC/IFV With Ukraine...

Watch this space.

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GreenandGold: You wouldn't know anything about submarines, its alien technology to Nigeria.

Nigerian navy has been training regularly on Pakistani navy submarines for several years. Posted often on this forum
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GreenandGold: Nope, we want to take over your cassava fields... that will be more rewarding.....

Yes more rewarding for us, we get 1,500 SANDF men P.O.W. as cassava farm slave-labourers
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NaijaPikinGidi: First send them for preliminary fighting in CAR.

That is one thing Usain Bolting army will never do !
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GreenandGold: Let me see...

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We got rid of Italians in East Africa
We got rid of Germans in Namibia
We got rid of Cubans
We got rid of M23

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[size=14pt]ANC insurgents got rid of SADF[/size]

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GreenandGold: Where is the part of the post says "I admit"?

We make both atack and troop carrier helicopters in Denel factories so we have more....infinity more.

Rooivalk factory production line has been finally closed down due to ZERO market sales....source is defenceweb South Africa

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GreenandGold: Dude, this is ancient weaponry. look at it, its fat and slow, it carries half the weapons the Rooivalk carries, it flies lower than the Rooivalk, it doesn't do those maneuvers the Rooivalk does, electronics, EWF, hack the list is endless.... the only better hind is the Hind South Africans make and its better because we make it.

All you said is the exact opposite of the truth. That Hind is faster, flies higher, carries more weapon load than the Rooivalk.

Post a source foe your false claims and see my challenge come...
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MikeZA: The same military grappling with BH?

A movement that went from AK-47 rifles to capturing land with company of bigger formations?

Grab your phone, call hell fire and ask this man Shekau....
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andrewza: they defended our bases against a massive enemy force. Your guys have had entire towns lost and shot at there own commanders.

In case you don't know, Nigerian army has now devastated Boko Haram till the point that they are now k.illing each other because we k.illed Shekau and 'robbed' him of his precvious Mowag APC...

http://newsrescue.com/boko-haram-killing-leadership-tussle-30-members-dead/

South African army will never achieve that in 100 years to come !
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andrewza: our para troopers did better in CAR than your solders in Nigeria.

Try beg SANDF soldiers to back to Bangui and collect your Gecko vehicles from Seleka boys and drive it into Pretoria, like this....

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Thiza: A Army Chief, Lieutenant General Vusi Masondo, has shed light on South Africa’s contribution to the African Union peacekeeping initiative known as the African Capacity for Immediate Response to Crises (ACIRC).

Speaking during the Exercise Seboka open day at the army Combat Training Centre (CTC) in Northern Cape he said the landward element of the SA National Defence Force (SANDF) would contribute a motorised infantry battalion (9 SA Infantry Battalion), a composite armoured car squadron from 1 Special Service Battalion and 1 SA Infantry Battalion, a light artillery battery (1 Light Artillery Regiment), an air-mobile anti-aircraft battery (10 Anti-Aircraft Regiment), a composite signal squadron drawn from 1, 2 and 5 Signal regiments and sub-sub-units from 2 Field Engineer Regiment and 1 Tactical Intelligence Regiment.

The SA Air Force’s (SAAF) involvement in the ACIRC force will see a mobile air operations team (MAOT), two Gripen jets (referred to by Masondo as “attack aircraft”), a pair of C-130BZ transports, two Rooivalk combat support helicopters as well as a pair each of Oryx and Agusta A-109 helicopters.

“The SA Navy adds to the fold a boat squadron and accompanying marines and support elements while SA Military Health Services will provide the entire force with a medical task group and a level two hospital.

“Finally, the SA Military Police will also contribute a platoon bringing the total strength of the force to in excess of 1 500,” Masondo said.

South Africa has never deployed more than 4,000 Soldiers in a war in the past 60 years till now.

Your military deploys like the small army of Togo Republic

In-experienced domingos

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andrewza: USA, Germany, UK, France, Netherlands, South Korea, Japan, turkey, Italy, extra extra all use dedicated attack helicopters even china and Russia are building dedicated attack helicopters. Hinds do both jobs worse than the dedicated version.

Show a source that says they are worse. I don't need your private opinion

90% of the countries in the world DO NOT use dedicated combat helicopters, that proves my own point
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andrewza: You failed to anserw how you will hit a moving ship from 12km high with unguided weapons.

To hit the RN ships with dumb bombs the Argies flew so close that many bombs failed to arm.

Easy, use of Cluster b.ombs with one single bomb spreading 500 b.omblets covering an entire area of 10 kilometer square directly above the ship and all around it.

There will be no escape for your Frigate from the hands of a NAF maritime Alpha jet Wide Area Cluster Bomber.
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MikeZA: Worry not African brother,cause your big brother from the South is coming to rescue you.

Try rescue your Rhinos at home first...

https://www.africa-wildlife-detective.com/images/rhino-poaching-3.jpg

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MikeZA: No need,as Nigeria has totally nothing to counter.

We have Lynx anti-submarine helicopters in reserve

Also, your submarine is diesel electric, so it must snorkel to get air and recharge it's battery every 48 hours or else it will sink dead, it becomes vulnerable to ATR-42 Surveyor 330km radar detection and it can call in Maritime version Alpha jets for rocket attack...your submarine is TOTALLY defenceless against air attacks
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patches689: Lol, and how will the Alpha jet engage the Valour Class from that distance?

Yes !

Try prove me wrong if you can...I dare you !
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patches689: F-22 Fighters arrive at AFB Waterkloof next month

Show us proof, even if it is a blog, at least we have a 'source'...

Mumu
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