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mekula:
guy!!!!!! u dey vex o! veeeeeeeeeerrry short fuse.

I won't call it short fuse, I call it telling it like it is

Mariory:
Add to that emergency services (Fire rescue, ambulance, e.t.c)

For sure, the benefits and application is limitless and priceless,

kingmakerz:
its really amazing. people were seeking to know how this GPS matter will benefit the common man in Lagos and some infantile slowpoke that claims he knows has this to say
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so I guess all these inane insults are his way of explaining the benefits of the GPS system! People need to grow up and act more mature on these forums. That you disagree with another person is no reason to descend to the level of insulting him. If you descend to that level pray tell what is the difference between you and him? He is probably better because he did not descend so low as to hurl abuse at you. Bubapapa you need to get a life man!

People need to grow up and start acting like capable and responsible adults, you ave access to NL so obviously you have access to google for any info under the sun. Only lazy and ignorant illiterates sits on their a/s/s and ask other people to do what they can do themselves. They are not interested in any good convo'. because their needs has nothing to do with seeking knowledge, it's always about badmouthing anything and anything Lagos, I know them, you don't.

Well, I guess you need me to repeat myself. I have zero tolerance for illiterates and ignorant people on NL. I don't respect them and I don't need their respect.

Now, you get a life and get off my balls, ignore my posts if it's giving you sleepless nites,

Are we clear?

OMO IBO:
Thank you babapupa for your input.
The above is utter tosh. . .  .and that is putting it lightly.

With or without this GPS system bus driver's and conductors will continue to ply the same route to arrive at their destination.
For example, a bus driver/conductor will not abandon a mushin to oshodi route via ladipo market cos of traffic to ply mushin to oshodi via isolo or ajao estate.

i hope you see where this arguement is going.

As it appears, this system may benefit every other person BUT bus driver's/conductor's.

The reason i (and m aybe others) threw in bus driver's and market women was not to belittle them.  . . . . far from it. My mum used to be a market woman/trader.
But if the aim of the GPS system is  please explain to me how this system AT THIS PRESENT TIME will be benefit a market trader and a bus driver.

And what difference does it make? The option is there/available to help them and the society in general. Bus drivers in Oshodi are not the only people in the society or the only people GPS was designed for. Is it even possible to be in the transportation business and not like and welcome the GPS system?
Are you saying it's a bad Idea because Oshodi bus drivers can not use it (which is moronic and idiotic) so it shouldn't be introduced in Lagos/Nigeria? Use your brain for a change and curb your ignorance.

You are not a bus driver and you have no clue per what bus drivers will do or wont do. The system is not even out yet, the bus drivers have not used and appraised it's values and benefits, but you've ignorantly ruled it out? Are you Mrs Cleo or do you have a crystal ball?

What more do you want from me? I've explained the effects of the GPS on your average market woman directly and indirectly. How ever you get your goods and supplies (by land, sea and air) you are benefiting from the GPS system, or as usual, you can not read and comprehend. And was the system available when your mom was trading?

Bus driver or no bus driver, market women or no market women, the system benefits you on a daily basis directly or indirectly. What about Taxi drivers, caterers, delivery people, fishing companies and other boaters, trucking and logistics, law enforcements, protection of good and properties, The application is limitless.

What ever advantages other countries and societies have is never good for us, it's always a bad idea in Nigeria and we should for ever remain in the stone age and undeveloped. If this was done in Ghana, I swear these clowns go show face to tell us how Ghana is way way ahead of Nigeria. A lot of our young people are vision less and have dangerous can't do spirit, no guts or desire to explore their potentials to uplift themselves talk less their own societies, they are self defeatists, they have zero sense of worth and capabilities, they can not inspire themselves and other to do great. The most fashionable thing to most of them is don't do nothing, don't try nothing because it will not work. The question is, have you tried it? The so called advanced countries didn't advance by siting on their hands.

How do we advance as a society with ignorant people walking around and always against any developmental ideas and approach?


NL is full of absurdities I swear? Freeking vision-less illiterates,

mekula:
why cant we NLanders behave like civilized pple? go to other fora and u'll see what i mean. now first and foremost, not everybody is tech savvy, even in oyinbo land. like heck, a significant number of them dont even know how it works. thanks @paddylo for your contributions so far, @babapupa try and explain, not abuse. besides the only point u've made clear so far is that u are quick to insult pple. but like someone said, how are u going to explain the benefits to the market woman at oshodi?

The fact is, I used to go the extra miles to explain and do what paddy lo did, but it's now some kind of fashion for these clowns to descend on threads without reading and comprehending legible articles and statements, it's always badmouth first by any means necessary.  There are those that show face just to criticize anything and everything Lagos and it doesn't matter good or bad.  This really need to stop if the idea is to further meaningful and enlightening discussions on NL.

Is it fair to ask us to do what they can do themselves? Do they not have access to the internet and google? paddy lo did what they could have done in less than 30 seconds. You don't have to be tech savvy to google, read and post articles to prove your point.


Like I said before, I have little tolerance for these lazy can't read, wont read, cant comprehend and wont comprehend ignorant illiterates and there's a lot of them in this thread.

Now about your market women question? What if the market woman have no need for a GPS device? Cars are very important in our lives but a lot of people don't drive or even own a car, still it doesn't mean they are not indirectly getting the benefits of the GPS system via their business and other co-lateral applications.

It's a known fact that the GPS saves time and increases productivity and the market women getting her supplies on time or getting real time information about her goods from a GPS equipped vendor prob' have no clue what a GPS is, but she is some way some how benefiting from the application.

Though the Oshodi bus conductor nonsense was thrown in to belittle the projects, but the poster as usual exposed his own ignorance, he walks on his brains.

The Oshodi bus conductors are prob' the greatest beneficiaries of the GPS system since they spend their days on the road, they get real time traffic information to help them plan their trips or reroute based on GPS traffic information, this saves time, money, manpower and productivity of our people trying to get to work, saves fuel and helps the environment.

Another great application is GPS equipped law enforcements, they get to maximize their time, locate crime incidents, locate GPS equipped cars, goods and properties, humans and animals, respond quickly and effectively without getting lost in traffic or unmapped and unknown areas.


Trucking companies trucks and tankers are now equipped GPS, it not only reduces insurance premium costs, since insurance companies consider this a safety measure, it also reduces the probabilities of meeting with an accidents, And in return, the general public ends up with savings on purchased goods and services.

Planning for trips can be done with the GPS system as it provides multiple directions for reaching a destination. This saves time and fuel.

With GPS, you assured of never getting lost as the unit gives directions and can find a way out.

By installing a Vehicle GPS tracking in vehicles, people can reduce the probabilities of meeting with accidents. When a person drives a GPS system equipped vehicle, he/she will get a voice message from the GPS tracking device. In addition, the system gives warnings, when drivers exceed the speed limit or there is a possibility of accident incident.

in vehicles, people can reduce the probabilities of meeting with accidents. When a person drives a GPS system equipped vehicle, he/she will get a voice message from the GPS tracking device. In addition, the system gives warnings, when drivers exceed the speed limit or there is a possibility of accident incident.

In manufacturing, aviation and marine, the application is limitless. GPS in Lagos/Nigeria is a great step in the right direction, the revolutionary effects on our society in terms of  development, manufacturing, leisure and entertainment is limitless.

There's no need to sit and wonder why things, runs smoothly in a lot of countries, they have little things like this, it makes their lives easy, safety is improved and assured, business runs smoothly, they consume less fuel trying to locate their destinations, deliveries are made on time and you and your customers don't have to sit around waiting for your deliveries because you get real time and up to date info every step of the way.

paddy_lo:
so only the USA has satellites in orbit? What a stark illiterate. . . . .u are. . .

The thing one reads from Nairalanders is getting worse by the day. . .can u just shut up and admit u dont know anything for once

must all of u contribute to every thread .  .na wa o

YOu se why i call them illeterates? With so manny of these illeterates walking around, Nigeria is in a lot of trouble. And the sadest part is the fact that these clowns are anti development and advancment, the first reaction is to bad mouth everything before reading and educating their dumb brains, what a bunch of lazy and lack of readind and comprehension idiots,

Ileke-IdI:
Thank You, Jakumo. 

Waiting for babapupa's "Oh no he didnt!" post.

do yoo not have any shame? The the ignorant illiterate typed some silly garbage and you are happy and asking me to defend myself against ther obvious rubbish, what an idiotic follow follow you are, do not let hate and ignorance betray your your exixstence. Good to know the olodo is your hero,

blacksta:
On this thread most dont know the exact benefit of the GPS system to the lagos government  - some are pretending to know and claim it is best  thing after slice bread


And the man baba pupa will always go defensive when ever some goes against his ideology.


For your information i know how important GPS is in other developed nations .

why not worry less about babapupa and worry more about your own ignorance and backward mentality. In your peanut brain, developed nations sat on their hands while the development droped from heaven. Everytrhing is ok elsewhere, but a terrible idea in your own country, nothing to support and encourage, just trash and bad mouth it because you are so consumed with hate and anger, You have serious peersonal issues for sure.

the article clearly stated some benefits, just take some time out and read, and obviously, the lady sabi google, it is fast and easy.

blacksta:
No need to go defensive  - Just come and explain the use or benefit to me as bus conductor in oshodi

what is there to be defensive about? This is nothing to be defensive about. Just amazed at the usual ignorant folks like you asking sillly questions about gps like elementary school kids. At your age, you mean you do not know the benefits of gps? Do you live under the rock or you are just too daft and backward not to know the benefits of common gps or able to google and educate yourself?. It is really a shame the dumb and ignorant comments I read on NL. Do not let the need to bad mouth everything and anything cloud your brain and end up sounding un educated. GPS has immense and limitless benefits. I really feel sorry for some of you for real.

here comes the the dunb and the backward ignorants, it never fails.

eko o ni baje lai lai. God bless the great state of lagos, God bless Lagosian, God bless our visionary and dynamic leaders.

adconline:
Why waste your lousy time typing this rubbish? I'm not interested, quote your ignorant friends and share it with them.

What a replica of sycophancy and idiocy. Any person who doesn't agree with your lopsided view of this training programme  is either moronic or ignorant while ignoring other issues the opposing parties might have raised. I expected you to go ballistic on rebuttals instead of calling names, but then again, you don't have a better argument

The kids are in SA and the state is doing what we expect our leaders to do which is to educate our kids and give them the best opportunities in life and if you don't like it and it bothers you so much or it's giving you sleepless nights, slit your wrist and call it a day.
Keep talking as you expose more of yourself. Why didn't Naija governors fly to Harvard for a leadership conference? Is RSA leadership conference better than Harvard? Is RSA better than USA in terms of leadership  skills? Or in the scheme of things, aren't Naija governors in  dire need of leadership training than these kids?

I dont need your answers, cos you haven't gotten one, only Fashola is the messiah and cannot make bad policy decision.  C.S.I NL=I cant Stand Idiots on NL

Is this idiot retarded or just too dumb and can not read? One more time, take your hate and rubbish elsewhere. Quit hating on little kids. abi they forced your kids to go to south africa ni? and this is not about me, you or fashola, it is about educating kids and giving them needed opportunities and like i said, if you dont like it, kill yourself.

truth dey bitter sha, see as the tin pain them reach inside bone, Unfortunately for you, this is what the whole world is saying and yoruba man did not write the article, now yall boys need to relax with the usual igbo range and anger. History is basically what it is, deal with it or just hush,

this is no news we all know about Awos sophistication. The man was a million years ahead of his time, Zik and others were not only behind, they were all clueless bystanders,

lol @ appropriate time. Get a freeking, jobless heffah.

The problem with your blind support for  Fashola's moves is that you don’t read between the lines. You are easily appeased and have selective amnesia. Most folks here are saying that it's not the most effective cost way of educating 42 students out of millions in the state. Spending money on 42 pupils out of millions is not a good leadership policy to begin with.
The problem I have with folks like you is your attitude toward govt spending of limited public funds. You still think its govt money controlled by Fashola and co and they can do as they wish. Guess what, you are in the hook for all the money these politicians spend or borrow. LASG has a huge debt obligation to its creditors and must be paid or serviced when you and Fashola are gone. Nigerians had your kind of attitude when FG was spending money on Festac, FIFA/CAF, training abroad and owambe parties, finally OBJ had to strike a deal with our debtors and Nigeria paid about $40 billion. The politicians who took these loans and benefitted from them did not pay with their money, but Nigeria's money that should have been used for other projects was used to settle these debts that never benefited a lot of Nigeria.

Is this an exchange programme between RSA educational institution and LSG? Would the participants earn some academic grades that would be transferred into their Naija coursework?
You keep talking about education as if that these kids would not be educated if they did not travel to RSA. Please stop insulting Nigerian with your low mental capability. What's the correlation between attending a leadership programme in RSA and smashing 9 As in WASC/NECO and over 300 JAMB?
Nigerians cried foul when Naija governors wanted to travel to the US for a leadership program that was supposed to be hosted by Harvard University. Are u saying that nothing could have been learned from this botched conference?  Off course, there is something to be learned, but at what cost to Niaja masses? But this is Naija where private gains trump public benefit. We are talking about  the opportunity cost of this RSA leadership training.

Why waste your lousy time typing this rubbish? I'm not interested, quote your ignorant friends and share it with them.


The kids are in SA and the state is doing what we expect our leaders to do which is to educate our kids and give them the best opportunities in life and if you don't like it and it bothers you so much or it's giving you sleepless nights, slit your wrist and call it a day.

labalaba4:
kobojunkie, my sister, I agree with you that evidence is needed, but in cases where evidence was provided against Bola Tinubu on Sahara Reporters, what did our newspapers or legal authorities do with that evidence Diddly Squat, that's what!

However, I have another "unsubstantiated allegation" for you: Did you know that Adeniran Ogunsanya Shopping Centre has been sold to a consortium, whose principal members include Mr. Toyin Subair, the same person who owns HITV in conjunction with Alpha Beta Consulting.

These people actually consider themselves to be smarter than ALL Lagosians put together, and since you're from Ikorodu, just dig a little, and you'll be shocked.

Yawnz. Another pile of horse doodoo,

excogobs:
Tthe battle line is drawn already btw baba pupa and aloy emeka!

I don't do battle with resident illiterates,

labalaba4:
I will try to get the ACTUAL documents,

Why don't you spend your valuable time doing that instead of boring us with your worthless garbage?

blacksta:
I believe people have a right to express views - what gives you the right to call someone dumb. The best you can do is provide counter argument and if not hug transformer.

I guess it's safe to assume that you don't know the difference between views and spamming with unsubstantiated accusations and nonsense.

Keep quiet sometimes,

Another dumb a/s/s thread and OP,

omo~fat:
But what really is the problem with going to learn from someone who is different? Someone mentioned that we have good speakers in nigeria and all kinds of names have been dropped here (soyinka, durotoye, etc etc etc). Yes that may be very true. No one is saying they can't learn anything from these guys. They are all brilliant in all they do but you guys are setting up false alternatives. Why can't they do both? - Why can't they learn from durotoye and then still learn from people that are different? Different speakers have different experiences and styles and they all bring these to bear during their presentations.

Which reminds me, just a forthnight ago, I attended a 1 hour lecture on this same leadership and the main speaker was a man called John Peters (google it); for anyone here old enough to remember the first gulf war, he was an RAF fighter pilot who was shot down by the iraqis during that war, wsa tortured and paraded on tv. Now his entire presentation was on leadership but he shared a lot of his experiences during that war and it was really moving and I have to say it was a real privileged hearing him speak. I had thought before I went that what do these people want to tell us again about leadership? I went in with so much doubt and all but by the end of it I was converted. It was that good. So I ask again, what is the fear in allowing our children to learn from people that are different? - I have listened to durotoye and I will admit that he does have something to say and I have left his talks feeling inspired too. Why can't kids learn from all of them?

I suppose we (those who just oppose going abroad) could argue that why don't we fly in these different speakers from elsewhere and bring them to Lagos and have the seminar there. Firstly, that still denies the kids the opportunity to travel and 'experience' something different. Secondly, if they did that there are people here that will still complain about why are they bringing foreigners? - why are they using white people? - People have been reduced to making such emotional arguments in the absence of any real substance.

Someone on this forum actually said something along the lines of if he had a family business and wanted to train his child to take over the business, will he send the child to learn from someone else's business? that isn't that like admitted there is nothing to learn in his own company? -- There are so many ways to take down that argument that I'm not really sure where to start. Suffice it to say that people in such situations gladly do both. They DO send their kids to outside firms to learn how things are done in outside places and THEN bring them back to the firm to which they are the heirs to learn the ropes in preparation of them taking over. These things are not mutually exclusive and people develop and grow better for the experience. This navel gazing and incestous way of thinking has to stop. Diversity is not a bad thing!

Now as to the fact that it is public money. I don't see too many things better to spend public funds on than on giving poor disadvantages but smart children a chance in life. We have been plagued so much with bad leadership that we have become cynical to anything good. This is public fund and as long as it isn't ending up in Fashola's personal pocket (and I'm not arguing that it isn't), but as long as it is being put to good use for something that would ultimately benefit the state in the long term, then I think it makes sense. And it's not the same money they use to collect garbage (someone actually said the money should be used to collect garbage instead - *sigh*). They have budgetary allocations for these things and these monies have most likely been approved already and allocated.

There is nothing wrong with learning from south africans, egyptians, ghanaians, americans, italians, hell aliens even. It doesn't make us weaker; rather stronger and our kids are the better for it.

Very well said.

Good read,

Is this not the same fool wishing innocent kids bad luck? Dont worry about my kids, worry about yours and make sure to deny them every chance they need to prevail in life, keep them inside your house and make sure the gov. Dont send them anywhere or spend a dime to educate them, freeking loosers,

kilakhan:
@bubapapa
if kids are coming to nigeria to learn about good leadership or say free and fair elections i would find it amusing, use your head, read between the lines and stop being obtuse, am out of here,

The article clearly spelt what the kids are doing in SA, not the ridiculous nonsense you are pulling out of your as?s. I dont have time for idiotic and moronic argument,

kilakhan:
@babapupa
just pointing out that SA is a funny place to go for leadership training when they have a very controversial President, its like going to Zimbabwe for leadership training from Mugabe, no one was wishing the kids ill, lighten up man!

Is it safe to say to Universities in America and other places sending their kids to Nigeria for all kinds of educational programs that Nigeria is a bad place to visit because of bad leadership and controversial president? Do you people even think before typing and posting?

kilakhan:
leadership training is SA? i hope they get some points from the inimitable Jacob Zuma, corruption, despoil of HIV positive women, polygamy etc

I hope what ever ills you clowns throw at these innocent kids applies to kids with similar ages within your households.

A paid and rented out portion of your brain cannot allow you to think. Not everyone is in Fashola's pocket like you. The point most folks are expressing here is that it's not a cost disciplined way of spending public resources. I wonder if those kids have been to NASS, DMO, NDA and some other Naija institutions? Dont believe that everyone on NL has left his brain at Alausa b4 coming here to make his points.  Fashola is god of governance in  Lagos to you , because you have got a mediocre sense of accomplishment that doesn't weigh costs VS delivery. Blame legacy costs of bad leadership for  you warped views on governance.

You don't have to be in Fashola's pocket to know that money spent on education is the best investment money can buy. Would you rather spend it on ignorance like yours?

Just because you and the other grumbling idiots think spending money to educate kids is a waste doesn't mean you are smart, it simply means you're foolish. It's like the other character saying spending money on trash collection is way better than spending money on school kids.

Of course you didn't leave your brain at Alausa, but it's sure buried under your feet. Thank God these kids are not in your mean spirited care.

What other way is there to spend public money if not spending it educating public school kids,

Spending money on public school kids is bad governance? That moronic statement has got to be the lowest and insane absurdity ever. I can't even believe what I'm reading with my eyes. No wonder Nigeria is bleeped up.

These clowns come here everyday talking about bad leadership, but still cry and spit ridiculous nonsense about spending money to give their kids quality education and sound global advantage.

Losers trying to breed more losers,

adconline:
The fact that Ohakim took some kids to RSA during WC doesnt mean that he  didnt waste  public funds.  The problem with Nigeria is that  we dont have a comparative benchmark for accountability and good governance. ie  We have always known bad leadership, so our sense of measurement revolves from bad to worse.  

We like to portray what we are not.  Granted that those kids looked good on those well tailored suits, could Fashola and co provide similar uniforms of the same quality to all the primary and high schoolers in the state if the state has got so much money to blow? I wonder how  many students from Kwazulu Natal province from RSA have been sent to Nigeria to learn leadership skills, or our literary skills? Better leadership skills could be learned from our leaders when they start  doing the right  things.
"Management is doing things right; leadership is doing the right things" Peter Drucker

For those saying that nobody is complaining, because  house assembly members are not complaining, show me FOI act that empowers me to access govt info without any hinderance. Or go ask those who demanded that Bankole be probed what happened to them.

Misguided and myopic views like yours is one of the reasons why the program is very important. Some of you have shallow, sorry and can't do spirits views about yourselves and other people, you don't believe in other people's will and capacity to do good just because you have been subjected to bad leadership. You think there's nothing good on the other side of the fence, but you've never been to the other side of the fence, you don't know anything about the other side of the fence, yet you think you are better than the other side and the other side should should learn from you.

Have you or any other Nigerian competed with any SA debating team? Of course not. It's like going to war with with zero knowledge and understanding per your enemy's capabilities. But you're here beating your chest and claiming to be superior. Is their education system not better than yours? Are their schools, colleges and universities not better than yours?


Please curb your foolish and dangerous arrogance.  Even going by your upside down analogy, is it not a good thing that our kids know all about them while they know nothing about ours?

These kid are in a better position to find out and learn a lot of things and return to share their experience with their mates and their respective constituencies.

There's no need to misplace your bad leadership anger and deprive innocent kids of needed breaks and opportunities to succeed in life.

Beyond NL, what's there to complain about? The program was set up by state and international agencies and approved by the Governor and the legislature.

Viaguru:
They will be back home with AIDS.

Why wish such evil nonsense? Some of are indeed sadists and sociopaths,

Beaf:
It wouldn't  come as shock to you the day you finally realise, that while I have already contributed several advancements to World knowledge (yeah, read that again, clown), you have remained no better than a Lastma officer, barking at people like a rabid dog.

Really, must you make me laugh? It feels funny conversing with you self, I ignored your immature a/s/s before and I think I'm gonna go that route again. Why go back and forth with a damaged and polluted  product?

mike oscar:
Spot on brother and very sound too!

If I don't read this thread any further it's because I don't want to be drawn into Tribal sentiments and some girl trying to be cool with her arguement. When I joined NL newly, I will jump on anyone sounding silly and any one attacking anything in the name criticising or de-railing a thread for their selfish aim but now I 've learned. The sad thing is, it's the same people running wild all over the place clue-less once a thread is opened. They soon hijack the thread and gradually derail it into a tribal conference or a myopic activist forum.

Bottom line:
1. I don't see anything WRONG with sending kids from Public schools to S.A. or any other country, if Lagos State (or any other state at all) feels it will help expose the kids.

2. Every state governor must not run the same agenda. If I recall, one of the Eastern governors(in an article titled "OHAKIM WORLD CUP GAMBLE" sent about 27 youths to South Africa during the 2010 world cup and I thought the the idea was brilliant and the fact that they all returned home without abconding was good image repair for us.
For me it was not all about the world cup but also the opportunity to get some exposure outside their environment and meet with a lot of people with diverse cultures etc from other countries. Even then the poor man was criticise and dogged but that didn't make His critics right.

http://www.nigeriavillagesquare.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=15835&Itemid=46&page=2


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I tire for some of our folks, I beg.

Very well said. This trip alone stands to be the most positive thing on their CV/Resume for life