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Katsumoto:
I am sorry, did I miss something? Did those kids embezzle funds to go on this trip? No one learns everything by just staying at home. Why do municipal cities in the Western world send officials to other cities half way around the world to learn?

You don't know where I got my education, so you are not at liberty to comment about it. I am always in support of external education; so i will support this. The kids are going to profit from this and that is what matters.

This is how some of us are wired, like so many good things, it is good for the rest of the world, but never for Nigerian and Nigerians. This is why we have shallow thinking and visionless people and leaders in Nigeria, they just don't know how to aim high in life.

Katsumoto:
I don't get some of the comments on this thread. Education is not just about the classroom; it is also about exposure to unfamiliar environments. What if the standards that Fashola is trying to expose these kids to is higher than what can be obtained in Nigeria? I don't think anyone should be complaining about some kids gaining international exposure when there are rogues in political offices who spend public funds to take their kids, wives, and girlfriends on international expeditions at govt expense.

It only exposes their limitations as human beings, they are too shallow to reason and think beyond their alloted capacities.

Yoruba:
@OP (babapupa_babamumu)

In your moronic world, you think that people are buying your jaundiced Fashola propaganda. . . .  May be U should enroll in a PR school where U can learn how to be a good spin doctor.   . . .  Silly Alaye man.

Typical and redundant. Though shall not feed the village troll.

Beaf:
^Exactly!

With due respect, this is severe batu. Stop trying to make becomerich jealous, the new mod says it is not allowed.

@topic
What exactly is going to be taught to these kids in SA that can't be taught right there in Lagos? Aren't these young Lagosians being told that there is no worthwhile person or location at home, hence they've got to be flown abroad? Its a terrible shame, the training has already failed.
Why can't they go on tour of Alausa and be seconded there for the full one week?

They already have kids touring Alausa, they have One Day Governors and One Day commissioners, they have tons of programs designed to expose kids to leadership and administration. This is obviously an extension of the state's efforts and drive to expose and invest public school kids and if I might add, these are public school kids, not private.

The benefits and experience for the kids and the state goes beyond classroom training. How do you survive as a nation with unexposed kids with limited knowledge of the outside world?

The need to criticize anything and everything makes you sound irrationally stupid and shortsighted.

Are you people not tired of the unexposed and global illiterate mallams and local isi ewu people rulling you?

tensor777:
You know it looks very much like a publicity stunt. The money should certainly have been spent on something much more worthwhile.

What is more worthwhile than investing in your own kids and their future?

Thank God we don't have people like you in behind the desk Alausa.

tensor777:
You know it looks very much like a publicity stunt. The money should certainly have been spent on something much more worthwhile.

Aloy_Emeka:
Why can't the government use that money to sponsor the workshop in lagos thereby giving room for more participants?. It's not as if they need special technocrats and equipments for leadership training. All these exercise do nothing but drain Nigeria's economy while making South Africa's economy more viable. Babapupa, this your Fashola worship is getting out of hand.

This as got to be the most stupidest asinine statement ever. This is not just about kids siting in a classroom or some workshop, it's about exposing and  giving kids the opportunity to learn, see the world and bring new and better Ideas to better their communities back home.

I feel sorry for your people, their future is indeed questionable,

Nigerian and their crude, backward and rudimentary ways of thinking . It doesn't have to be about you all the freeking time, it's called exposure and it's the beast education and exposure money can buy. How do you advance globally if you don't know what's going on in the  outside world? How do you compare, bring in new ideas and concepts to help your own people if you don't know what's out there? What did you get from close minded and unexposed village dwelling mallams ruling you?


The state has tons of leadership programs for kids including One Day Governors and One Day Commissioners to expose kids to instruments and of governing.

Like they say na the pekin wey never been to other people's father's farm dey claim say na hin papa farm be the largest,


Who cares what you clowns think anyways. Y'all are backward and it shows via the current situations in your respective villages and with crude and mindless thinking like these, your villages are doomed.

You clowns have so many great Ideas for Lagos state, unfortunately, your backward villages are in dire need of your crude and backward Ideas, stop wasting you Ideas on Lagos.

You can say that again.

There's nothing like inspiring and exposing kids to machineries patriotism, leadership and good public administration unlike the unexposed semi illeterates we have ruling the country.


I'm really proud of my state.

May God bless the great state of Lagos.

Eko o ni baje lai lai,

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42 Students From Lagos Jet Out For Leadership Training In South Africa

Aug 2, 2010 - Forty-two students from Lagos State public schools Sunday night left Lagos for Johannesburg for one-week leadership training in South Africa as part of the State Government's commitment to expose the State's youths to leadership education.

The students constitute the third set of students from the State's public schools sent abroad by the present administration for leadership exposure programmes since 2008.

Addressing the students before their departure, the State Commissioner for Women Affairs and Poverty Alleviation, Hon. Joke Orelope-Adefulire, counseled them to be of good behaviour as ambassadors of not only Lagos State but the entire country.

She recalled that the present administration, under the leadership of Governor Babatunde Fashola (SAN), approved the leadership programme as an annual event pointing out that it was as a result of the commitment of the Government to invest in the youths who represent the future of Lagos.

The Commissioner told the children, "As members of the Children's Parliament, you have to be of good character and behaviour; you have to be good children as you are not only representing Lagos State but Nigeria as a whole".

Congratulating the students for making the list of those who are attending the programme this year, the Commissioner counseled, "You must make the best use of this opportunity as one of the few children chosen across the State for this programme. It is a great opportunity and you must make the best use of it if you want to be great".

Responding to the address of the Commissioner, Speaker of the Parliament, Hon. Abono Emmanuel, thanked the Lagos State Government for giving them the opportunity of the leadership training abroad. He also thanked the Commissioner for Women Affairs and Poverty Alleviation for her motherly care and interest since their tenure in the parliament.

The Speaker promised, on behalf of the other members that they would be of good behaviour and good representatives of both the State and the country. He promised the Commissioner that they would make full use of the opportunity given them to become better children and leaders on their return.

In separate interviews, the students expressed their appreciation of the State Government's efforts to create opportunities for them in all spheres of life saying the opportunity to interact with other children in other countries would make them better and responsible children.

Responding to questions from newsmen, the Speaker of the Parliament, Hon. Emmanuel Abono, expressed pride and joy "for this privilege to go out of the country to see what is happening in other countries and to gain more knowledge in order to make positive change for the better when I come back".

Asked about his expectations from the leadership programme, the Speaker said, "My expectation is to be inspired; my expectation is to come back to become a good Nigerian, a great motivator not only to the children around me but the children of Nigeria in general and the children of Lagos State in particular.

Senate President of the Parliament, Hon. Esther Afolayan, in her response to journalists' questions, said she would utilize all the knowledge acquired at the programme to make things better for the people around her.

The 42-member Parliament represents each of the State's constituencies. The Women Affairs and Poverty Alleviation Commissioner confirmed that the selection is always transparent as it is done in conjunction with international organizations with the best students chosen to represent the State's constituencies.

At the fourth National Children's Parliament, Lagos State Produced the second Senate President in July 2008 while Master Adeniji Lawal emerged Chairman House Committee on Child Development.

Must you guys really go back and forth with Beef? You are wasting your time,

johnie:
I am interested in that (for my education o!).

Please list.

Ipakodo ferry jetty with ferry boats,

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Skill Acquisition Centre, Drivers’ Institute In Ikorodu

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Ikorodu Maternal and Child Care Centres (MCC) and designed them as 100 bed

The Ikorodu facility which is being opened today, is the first of 8 (eight)

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Ikorodu Drivers institute

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256 housing units units

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Kobojunkie:
OH WOW!!! I guess they are tired of being MARGINALIZED. In all honesty, anyone who has lived in any of these areas would have no problem admitting that progress in Lagos state has remained mostly on the island and surrounding areas over the last 3 or 4 decades. In Ikorodu, most all we get are retarred roads and new gutters. ROFLMAO!!

Why don't you explain to us what other development or major projects exists on the island besides the Ikoyi bridge and Lekki express. Well over 70% of executed projects in Lagos state are on the Mainland. Even tons of the Major projects under construction are on the Mainland. The Island folks should be the one complaining, not mainland folks, but of course, you spit nothing but ignorance.

Btw, the way, would you like me to list all the projects commissioned so far this year in Ikorodu or the mainland in general?

Eziachi:
It is the way Nigeria operates, grand standing promise, very little in fulfilment, I still remember the day they promised to build Zik a mausoleum before the ears of the whole world, including the queen representative to his funeral and then 14 years later, the whole place is overtaken by rodents and reptiles. Just like the river Niger, two grandstanding contract award ceremonies, fulfilment zero.

My first post over this issue is that those that believe in after life should think twice as a dead person knows nothing.  How we wish that the dead can hear and see things.  For Dr Azikiwe to see what the monster he engineered, created has become and how they had treated him, so that he can talk sense to those still living.



Azikiwe stood and even lived for one Nigeria until the day he had his last breath and those one Nigeria crusaders that are now shedding crocodile tears, telling us how we had neglected their former president. Zik was the president of Nigeria, so his all related issues should be treated as such.

http://www.nigeriavillagesquare.com/articles/hakeem-babalola/awos-statue-between-lam-ladoja-and-akala.html

The above like is the appreciation and sensitive to for history at show. Remove the rafter from your own eyes first before finding a leaf on someone else.

If the man was all in all as your post stated, why is he resting in such garbage? Stop blaming other people for everything, the federal government honored the man already, the best airport in the country/Abuja Airport is called Nnamdi Aikiwe. Other folks didn't sit on their hands waiting for the federal government to do s/hi/t for them. Only Igbo people, it's never their fault, it's never their responsibility, it's always other people outside their region.


Y'all are some mean fisted, cheap a/s/s and don't give a f/u/c/k group of people.

9jaganja:
Beaf here you go


http://www.ewepeoplenigeria.com/about%20us.html      You are the one who like posting links. I told you I know these people first hand.!!! Go to hell with your ignorance

Why bother with that ignorant waste of education money clown? Beef of all people?

Most of these clowns on NL don't know their own history talk less other people's,

Beaf:
. . .And Britain governed Nigeria, therefore Nigeria is in England?
I'm beginning to see why those poor folk feel marginalised enough to want their own state.

You are not making any sense.

Badagry was founded by and occupied by Yoruba people.

Beaf:
Egun language is the same language spoken at Seme and Cotounou in Benin Republic. The people generally speak Yoruba as a 3rd language, that is why you can converse with them in Yoruba. But their own language is called Gun-be; which has the dialects Seto, Whla, Toli, Ajahuwe, Thevi, and Wheme. None of which sounds even remotely Yoruba.

Even the name, Badagry should offer clues, it doesn't sound like Youruba does it? You will be surprised to find that the real name of badagry is Gbagle (short form of Ogbaglee).

Look up Fon and Gbe languages on google.

Don't mind some people.

Badagry was part of Yoruba Egbado region administered by the old Oyo kingdom.


Pick up your history and geography book and read.

9jaganja:
Beaf said Egun people are not Yoruba. How did you arrive at that? I can totally understand their Language even though I speak and understand just little Yoruba which I can communicate with. I don't speak Egun but I understand their dialect because I understand little Yoruba. I don't speak Ekiti or Ijebu dialects but I understand these dialects because I understand little Yoruba. You are totally wrong on that notion. Yoruba people are diverse even in dialect. I think you said that because you want to prove a point on why Lagos should be divided (what a retarded notion by the way). Lagos was meant for 1million people and 6mil at most. But mass migration to Lagos wasn't expected. How about dividing your compound? 

Is Lagos bigger than London? London has 32 boroughs which Barking and Dagenham being on the eastern end of London and Dagenham belongs to Essex but Essex county isn't complaining that Barking and Dagenham is it's land. London also has a population boom instead they extended London not divide it. What kind of way are you thinking? Lagos is already the tiniest state in Nigeria but the most populated. Lagos just need to extend to Ogun and let them call it Lagos by name while ogun keeps getting the revenue. For most rushing to Lagos, it's the idea of living in Lagos that thrills them. If Lagos could extend to Ondo state and still be called Lagos, many will rush there. NYC annexed some part of jersey to it and it's still called NYC while some New Yorkers think Jersey is trash,some live in Jersey and don't even know it. Creating another state out of Lagos is a disaster!! Why don't you advocate they divide your own state? Your advice for Lagos comes off as condescending and with ulterior motive.

That happens when education money fail people. Obviously don't know his own history talk less other people's.

EzeUche22:
babapupa are you finished with your rant? As the saying goes, "people who live in glass houses should not throw stones." First, clean up your own house before you start throwing stones at the Ndi Igbo with your holier than thou attitude. It is very unbecoming.

That's the problem with you folks, we know all about our shortcomings and our successes and we are very comfortable in that regards, we are not hateful and insecure like you guys, that's why you don't see us starting hateful and bashing threads like you and your kins. It's like there's always the need to trash other people just to make yourself feel good about your own miserable, backward and pathetic existence

You are always crying and yelling and blaming every soul beyond your Igbo walls for everything perpetrated by people withing your walls. There's is no sense of responsibility, belonging and nothing is sacred to you, not even your own lives.

EzeUche22:
Your post really annoy me. Ojukwu should not be held accountable for anything. Gowon & Co should be responsible for the pogroms, the civil war and the sorry state this country is in. Ojukwu was doing what anyone in his position would have done when his people were being massacred and no one was protecting them. It angers me when people try to put the blame on this man, for the killings of my people. It is pure ignorance, stupidity, damn goat who will ever utter those words. Ojukwu will remain an Igbo hero if you people like it or not. Get over it!

A coward and deserter is your hero? This is what you want planted in your history books for your kids to read? I really wonder about you people sometimes,

udezue:
Babapooper,
We have zero sense of history? What a moronic slowpoke? If we have no sense of history we would falling head over hills over Zik but because we have studied his history and seen how his actions affected the East negatively hence we are non-challant about anything concerning him. You are moronic hypocrite because if an Awolowo vs Zik thread is created right now we all know you will side with Awolowo and not even play neutral since according to you he is A HERO. You will immediately go from scolding the Igbo for not honoring him to castigating them for even defending him. You will have no issue calling him all kinds of unprintable names so please who do you think you are fooling now? Please make up your mind you brainless pig. Why dont you head to Onitsha and beautify his grave, go to the middle of Ajegunle and errect a structure in honor of him?
If you cant do then STFU coz Zik belongs to all Nigerians and that includes you. If the nation can't honor him for his work then shame on you not the Biafrans who he worked against. We won't honor men like Zik, Elechi Amadi, Ukpabi Asika, Adaka Boro, etc and that is our business not yours or any jobless tout west of Ore or north of Benue. The funny thing is that the North who he worked so hard and kissed their asses the most aint even worried about his existence. He did his job like a slave boy, he got his ceremonial Presidency, case closed but look at you sons and daughters of bitchez hyperventilating over a man that you still love to hate. The truth is that many of us in the East are no longer willing to get into any ethnic mudslinging in the name of defending a man who practically left us hanging when we needed him the most all in the name of "HE IS iGBO". Sorry but unlike your people we are far too intelligent and judge your actions by merit not by mere knowledge of your ethnic heritage. Obong Efiong is far more respected in Ala Igbo than Zik because WE KNOW OUR HISTORY AND HISTORY SHOWS THAT HE DID WELL AND SACRIFICED A LOT FOR Biafra and the Igbo. Ojukwu is far more important than Zik and when he passes you will see how we treat our real heroes.

Odeshi!

Must you recycle the same garbage to justify you lack of self worth and identity? You really are wasting your time with your needless rants. Like I said, discount and negate ZIK as much as you want, he remains the most popular and ICONIC Igbo figure and shall forever  remain so.

Yoruba folks don't have any problems per recognizing and honoring their heroes and we don't need Igbo people, the federal government or the rest of Nigeria pick up the responsibilities for honoring our heroes.

We have parks constructed and statues erected to show our kids our past. The fact is, not properly honoring ZIK has nothing to do with all the nonsense you're talking about, Igbo people just don't care about anything beyond money and every Igbo man for his pocket.

You don't even care or give a damn about your own freeking people hence kidnapping and slaughtering your own sons and daughters. You even have family members rating out other rich family members to kidnappers.

You guys are freeking too cold blooded, no affection for the past, present and the future, you spew nothing but hate, even against your own people, Y'all are crazy for real,

When are these clowns going to start a thread to discuss their own villages? Abi na only Lagos state dey Nigerian ni?

udezue:
Its funny how morons like Bluetooth, Sjeezy, Seant, babapooper, have used this as usual as an opportunity to attack the Igbo when issue has nothing to do with us. So because Zik is Igbo we must all line up to clean up his damn grave? Can u imagine how silly you guy are? Is he childless? The man has many kids and grand kids to do that for him and if they don't feel the need to do so what concerns your average who has better issues than to worry about the burial site of liability? Zik is nothing to us. If his own Onitsha don't give a hoot why should we? Zik is a national hero hence the upkeep of his burial site is the responsibility of the Nigerian govt which he showed greater loyalty at the detriment of his region. If as usual the Nigerian govt have decided to forget about him like always do after they've used and dumped Easterners who work for them then that's his reward. No real Eastern hero will be treated like that after his death because trust me our people will not it happen.
Like Eziachi said if you nincompoops feel so strongly about honoring the burial site of your hero Zik then march to Onitsha town and do something instead of boring us with your constant reminder of how u are honoring Awolowo like as if we give a hoot or don't have enough heroes of own and our choice to honor. What is stopping u patriotic Nigerians from showing your love for Zik by beautifying his burial site? Why must it be the Igbo who must do it yet you want to prove that u guys are not a bunch of tribal bigots?

Zik enjoys no real support in Igbo land, Efik and the whole of Eastern region because he was never an Eastern leader.
I will rather worry about Effiong, Bassey, Ojukwu, Madiebo, Ibiam, Okpara, Opigo, than Zik.

You have no right to tell us who we should honor and since Zik belongs to Nigeria let Nigeria do the right thing and honor him. Shameless people. Is this how you treat your hero? This man abandoned his own people to support a war against them and yet you can't even pay him enough respect? Instead of bowing your heads down in shame you shift the blame on Igbos and Easterners who it doesn't concern. Its like British scolding Americans for not honoring Queen Elizabeth.

You all need to stop being hypocrites or better go see your shrinks.

That's why you guys are f'ed up. You have zero sense of history and self preservation. Yoruba folks don't have to tell you to do ish, common sense should tell you. You can deny and discount ZIK as much as you want, he is the main Igbo Igbo ICON shall for ever remain the main historical ICON off the Igbo people and it is a collective shame on y'all if the same ICON's resting place looks like garbage.

What else do you guys give a hoot about besides kidnapping yourselves for money?

lol, fastest growing in terms of what? Kidnapping?

Kobojunkie:
Talk of kettle calling pot black  . . . this one na Clash of the SPIN DOCTORS abi wetin ! ROFLMAO!!

at least I don@t spin stupidity and ignorance and ending every dumb and silly nonsense with rflmao like a circus clown like you,

the question is, who is paying you to keep flooding the internet with your pointless rubbish?

how many times are you gonna spin the same rubbish?

Eziachi:
Building Zik a worthwhile final place is not a big deal but this particular issue is all about principle. Nigerian govt made a big noise that they are building their hero such a place and then as usual abandoned it in the middle of the road.  Nobody deserves such a treatment. If you cannot fulfil a promise, why make it?

Secondly, Azikiwe is not childless, his son Chukwuma probably quite old now himself but still alive. They should do something, and then others will follow. I cannot see how the family will initiate such a scheme and someone like me will not put a hand in the pocket.  

Alison Madueke initiated the building of airport for Imo people without any help from of the federal government and then all Imo citizens and Igbo sons/daughters dolled out cash and built it.

It is all about initiative. The so-called rat infested or abandoned Dr Azikiwe’s mausoleum is an embarrassment to Nigeria and has nothing to do with the IGBO NATION.

This is really annoying and it beats me why you guys keep blaming everything under the sun on other people, it's like you guys have no sense of personal responsibility. And you wonder why the place looks s/hitt/y. Regional pride aside because I'm sure you don't want to hear it from a Yoruba man, it troubles me that Zik's resting place looks like crap. There's got to be something that you guys care about.

The folks in the picture below didn't wait or blame other people before honoring Awolowo. It's called sense of pride, belonging and worth.

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MetalGong2:
Senile Yoruba man!! Do your stock have an iota of history, talkless of having any worth. Babamonkey!

Ode lost generation of Abakaliki, I wont be surprised if una don kidnap the man's remains for ransom or some money making juju. Just look at the, den place, den don comot roof and window go sell.

This is how we honor our heroes and document our history for our future generations to see and explore.

Obafemi Awolowo museum. Epe, Lagos.

http://happylagosian..com/2009/07/obafemi-awolowo-museum-epe-lagos.html

9jaganja:
should be discarded immediately!!


@Babapupa

Are you Lagosian? If you are please don't advocate for this policy. I support the new Lagos state government but not blindly. If you like Fashola's government fine but that doesn't mean you shouldn't analyze his policies or the policies of his government's agencies. Please critically reason with the people that are constructively stating why this policy shouldn't be followed. You know you have a reputation for blindly following Fashola right? Tone it down. I like his government too even after trying to confiscate our Family heritage land instead of renting it (He rented it later though),  So chilll

I really can not help you with the conspiracy theories about the government. But what's obvious safety concerns got to do with Following Fashola blindly? Is it not common sense that you need to test and evaluate before you drill and even after drilling, you can not consume the water without proper treatment? oDo you really need statistics to show that people are dying because of bad and untreated water in Lagos state? Are you for real or you're just joking?

Do you even know the dangerous consequences of depletion of underground water due to reckless and excessive drilling? Do you really need to follow the government blindly to figure that out?

No need to get ahead of ourselves abeg,

Very typical. No sense of history, no sense of worth and belonging, just loud mouth and money money money by any means necessary,

must_a_far:
ok, how do they get water? by buying it?


it still falls back on the failure of govt. if our groundwater is not safe for consumption and the govt knew that or knows that. i then wonder what the government has done to ensure people dont sink boreholes as a source of water in the new areas of lagos that are just being developed if they cant immediately provide water for the already built areas.

Why do we always act as if we don't really know what is going on? The state simply can not keep up with the infrastructural demands of 18 million people especially after decades of neglect. It's like asking the state to provide ready made amenities for the thousands of people trooping into Lagos state and still serve the 18 million folks it's saddled with.

It's not like the state is ignoring the water problem. The target for this year alone is to commission 15 water works around the state and they're almost done. They just commissioned Akute Power Project  (12.5 megawatts power station) to power Iju water works.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                

The state's budget is only 2 billion dollars and out of that 2 billion , they have to maintain and pay the civil service and all state agencies, the teachers, roads, bridges, schools, hospitals and many more state obligations. 2 billion is obviously not enough to go around unless you are asking the state to keep taxing the same masses you're talking about till their infrastructural demands are met.


It doesn't even matter how hard they try, the sad truth is, the state doesn't have enough resources to take care of and provide stable needed amenities for 18 million people. Definitely not with 2 billion dollars annual budget. That's the sad reality,