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@pilgrims

I believe you. 'Hum' is a very interesting logo to wear, whether as an undergarment. . . or more popularly to fit the description of the Islamic terrorist organization by the same name, "HuM". Excerpt: "The group attacks Indian troops, civilians, and officials, as well as non-Muslim civilians in Kashmir".

Do you read topics at all? Does the abofe has any relationship with the topic at hand. The great Maradona, always eager to deflect topic.

@pilgrims

See how dense you are! Now I believe indeed that Muslims are dunces according to the Qur'an.

At least you should have pictures of grown ups in your house. I wonder how you relate with those older than you

Obinrin so iwa nu, o so wipe oun ko ni ori oko.

Are you not the person who claimed that the Torah and Injil are lost? Many have asked you what the original copies contained - and you have ducked that question to date! Not only so, you have not been able to show anyone where Muhammad or 'Allah' ever made such a claim!! Are you so dense that you can't seperate your desperation from your duplicity anymore?

Baby girl, your trick wont work with me. You are here showing your dishonesty when you have been provided enough evidence that your bible is corrupt. If I may ask you, what else do you need when you have been shown missing verses, contradictory statements, false unfulfilled prophecy atributed to Jesus etc. I keep asking, do we regard the letters of paul, sayings of John, letter of Luke to Theophilus etc as part of the revelation given to Jesus?

Did you answer the question of what denomination you belonged to when someone asked you much earlier about that claim?

Where did u ask that? One thing you still do not know about Islam is that we dont go about using that as a means getting people revert to Islam as christians do in churches which happened to be part of your fraud.

Muslims, make una dey take style drop this lying attitude! We know how to spot you when you make dubious claim! That is how combatant also claimed he was a "Christian" who converted to Islam - ask am how e be, he has since remained silent!

I know your problem. You never believe that christians revert to Islam and by the way, who I am to lie to you. You are not my creator and if I have been lying, He is there to judge. I have given part of my reversion to Islam in sone of the threads. You may go to some of my earlier threads and read about me. Your sister babyosis now Nwandod was confused more than you in one of the threads.

What moral upbringing did you exhibit when you said "bullshit"?

You know that you are my lecturer . What is the meaning of bullshit?

I have done that before when Tiptronic wanted to cheat behind the counter! This time around, rather than engage you guys in your usual DENIALS and games, I decided to let him LIE as much as he could - because I know he would ONE DAY fall flat on his face by contradicting himself!!! And he has!! He should now lap up his factual deuplicity and wait a bit more for another bleaching!

Did you read your post before hitting sent button?Are we here discussing Tiptronic or Bros. Olabowale's post on Quran 19 v 71. You sure dey see road so

Whatever bloviates you want to give your time to, do so. I have other people more serious to attend upon - and I was actually looking forward to their caterwauls since Muslims these days are simply noise makers.

You will always have time for others when you couldnt provide answers to your missing verses in earlier editions and omission in some versions yet all claiming to have been inspired. Baby girl, we are still on Torah and Injil.

Please what does the Torah contain
What does the Inul contain

When you are able to provide answers to the questions, we will then go into NT, go through the tenses used in compiling the bible, the irrelevant words therein, the sayings of historians, those that didnt witness jesus etc and we will try ascertain if indeed it is the revelation you are having now, is the same as the ones God gave to those prophets.

Whatever else you might have to say that (usually arguments that say nothing), please yourself. For now, I want to attend to other issues.

Dont run , we need to get to the root of the fraud called the holy bible

Enjoy your week.

U too

@Nwando

Oh, first it was Paul that gave you a heart attack now Matthew is giving you insomnia
Maybe John and Peter will make your long bia bia to stop blossoming
Lord have mercy

Maybe you should serve me that of John and Peter. Am willing to learn from you and your folks.

Very soon, I will post two threads, one exposing who paul really is. I will post one on if God actually sent two prophets with two different religions and who disorganised religion, giving you contradictory statement of paul as well.

Take care of yourself till its ready.

@pilgrims



@babs787,

'Hiding' is the word you give to your own exile. I never went into hiding - and for the likes of folks like yourself, I have stated several times why I have not had the opportunity to be frequent on the Forum.

. What else do you expect from an escapist

Denials already? Please save the games.

Bull shit . Are you running out of your usual denials

I hear - and after you have known me for my stuff, how have you been able to redeem the lies of both you and your Muslim fellows? How many times have I directly pointed out to olabowale's face that he was mischievious LYING? How did he attend to set me straight and remove the doubts? And what happened with your denials about the lost Torah and Injil - where did Muhammad make such a claim?

I served you questions and even showed your folks the fraud in bible publications omitting some verses in earlier edition but inserting same in later edition. I even showed you all the missing verses and please if I may ask you, what do the Torah, Injil contains please? When you are able to provide honest answer, we will know further if your holy is corrrupt or not.

See, you guys often give me very strong reasons why it were far better to remain outside Islam - because of your incorrigible penchant to be deceptive!

Have you read my story where I have been giving you reasons for my reversion and the fraud of your holy book.

I hear - that is why illiterates like you often blab before settling down to read!

Here, you again show your lack of moral. Keep it up.

I have allowed him time enough to lie as much as he could - and he has come out to confuse himself, which I knew he would, by claiming that ALL would go to Hell fire - the very same thing he initially denied!

You should at least povide rebuttal to his post before exposing your dishonesty

Sorry, I'm not as feathered with such duplicity and doublespeak - and he proved it himself, and I presume that is what you can celebrate.

Sorry oooooo

@pilgrims


Welcome after having gone into hiding.

What arrant nonsense? How many times have we bleached you and your band on the Forum?

Let me have where you did that please.

You really have a penchant for wanting to waste your time.

Really?

This is how you kept evading the three debates we've had and shown yourself the trademark that others have observed about you. Noisemaker, utilize your time on studying to grow up, please.

Please let me have the debates I avoided. We have known the stuff you are made up.

Olabowale is know for LYING and duplicity - and that was the same detailed DENIALS he offered! Period.

Shame on you . You should not be here crying but provide your rebuttal to same if you think that he lied.

How brave do you expect anyone to be in pointing out the Muslim deception?

I am not here for your story telling. Carry on with your quranic and hadith twisting.

JESUS CAME, DIED, ROSE AND WILL COME AGAIN!

Please do you have verses from OT prophesizing his death and resurrection after three days?

Your foolishness is showing through. You have not supported your statement with matured argument.
Just yapping like a Chihuahuas shows how really smart you are. There is something called education
beyond the classroom. No matter how you try to divert the attention of others from this topic, you will be reminded in every which way. Your prejudice is already laid bare for others to see. Lets keep moving.

I don already tire for the guy, he argues without any sensible backing. He just type and click submit without having a rethink what he is replying to.

@dafidizone

The Bible says, "Do not forsake the gathering of other believers" Church is one of those gathering.

Who are the 'other believers' used therein. Where was is it included that church is part of such gathering?

A Christian must walk in His step. Go to Church it is a good thought.

Is it compulsory to go to church?
Is there any punishment for not going to church?
Cant someone be performing praises and worship in his house without even stepping any church.
Can a christian that doesnt go to church but does his prayer at home go to heaven?

Thank you.

@cgift, davidylan, nwando, pilgrim


If you think that you are up to the task and wont deflect topic half way, set the ball rolling and babs will follow suit.



@cgift.


You have been known for your dishonesty. You are still requesting for Quran 19 v 71 when brother Olabowale provided detailed response.

If you think that you are brave enough, let me hear more from you and we take it up from there.

Salam

u sef see una selves eh?

I am very sorry to dissapoint you, but I am not a member of that organisation and I doubt if I ever would be. . .

Sorry brother but what denomination are you?

@Nwando

Mutah marriage is basically temporary marriage whereby a man marries a woman strictly for enjoyment for a specified period of time,could be 2 days,could be 2 months.
In my books that is like having a "legal mistress".
What annoys me is not what 2 consenting adults choose to do with their bodies but the fact that this same sharia law would permit a grown man to derive these sexual pleasures from touching innocent infant girls.
And we wonder why the Muslims that scream that hijab equals purity would allow such to happen without attempting to have that removed from the sharia if they say it is wrong.
May God protect those little girls from these sex craved maniacs in flowing robes and long beard.

Why do you like going in circles?

Has Brother Olabowale not provided answer in one of the threads?

Insert Quote
I seriously doubt. Even amongst the christian denominations e.g catholics, orthodox, the many variety of protestants, white garments etc, they all claim to serve the one deity but in actual fact none of them worship the one true and living God whose name is Jehovah (although the various adherents would tell you different)

This is made obvious by their very mode of worship and beliefs which is in total negation to what the bible really teaches

True talk brother.

@Aworee

Hope you have learnt more than enough? That is Islam for you. More power to the elbows of our lecturers



@oziomatv

@babs787 I'm not a muslim and didn't come from north.but I feel for the lives we loose each time we figth in nigeria being one nigeria will archive us much than division.

Same with me sister , we are all human beings.

let's abolish tribes and faiths related isssues in this forum.

Okay Madam. One love.

Is the answer to this simple question there please? All those that died before Jesus came were going to hell fire, True or False?All the above verses has nothing to do with my simple Question "Are All Those That Died Before Jesus Going To Hell Fire?"

I wonder ooooooo

Oya, protestants, catholic etc should answer the question posed by our erudite jehovah witness ajadrage.

I want to learn about this so called 25th december being the birthday of Jesus and please dont forget that I have the 'awake magazine' on that


Welcome ajadrage as you lecture us on december 25

@Nwando

I gave you a befitting response,

You actually did when you couldnt provide reason for the omission of the verses in other versions.

you either have it on the main text or on the footnotes and if you had an eye,you would have seen it.

I can see that you dont have your thinking cap on. Go through your response towards me and tell if you ever included that and please let me the version out of NIV, GBN, RSV that is having the verses on the footnotes and when doing that, please let me have the year of production of the version you are giving me. Your response further exposed the corruption of your book.

and if you didn't ,you could read it from the other synoptic gospel like Matthew as shown you,if you didn't see it,I can't help you

Yes you would surely help by revealing the corrupt book further. I asked you and your brother to supply me why the verse is missing but all you could do was nailed yourself by giving me a version (NIV) that is excluding the verse in question. If it is in the synoptic Gospel of Matthew, why not give it to me rather than exposing your fraud and please if it is in the synoptic gospel as you are claiming, why didnt the early puslishers include it?

Next!

More of your fraud please. Why is the verse not in some versions and why did the early edition excluded that verse and other important verses?

Yeye set of people

May Allah increases all Muslims' knowledge that have been lecturing my brothers and sisters from other side of the world .

At times, I would want to reply but seeing my brothers and sisters intelligent posts, I would just crawl back and continue enjoying the lecture.

Maa Salam

May increase all Muslims that have been lecturing my brothers and sisters from other side of the world .

At times, I would want to reply but seeing my brothers and sisters intelligent posts, I would just crawl back and continue enjoying the lecture.

Maa Salam

@Nwando


Let me combine your two posts.

from the KJV

Luk 17:33   Whosoever shall seek to save his life shall lose it; and whosoever shall lose his life shall preserve it.  
Luk 17:34   I tell you, in that night there shall be two [men] in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left.  
Luk 17:35   Two [women] shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken, and the other left.  
Luk 17:36   Two [men] shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

Good, I am very much aware that the verses exist in KJV. My question was on other versions. Read my post for better understanding. Let me have the verse in other versions.

from the NIV

Luk 17:33   Whoever tries to keep his life will lose it, and whoever loses his life will preserve it.

Luk 17:34   I tell you, on that night two people will be in one bed; one will be taken and the other left.

Luk 17:35   Two women will be grinding grain together; one will be taken and the other left.”[fn4]

Luk 17:36    
Luk 17:37   “Where, Lord?” they asked.

He replied, “Where there is a dead body, there the vultures will gather.”

Did you read my question? I asked you why verse 17 v 36 is missing but all you could do was buttressed my claim that its missing. Common, why is the verse missing? You may give me RSV and GNB as well. The missing verse shows the corruption of the bible.

Footnotes:
17:12 The Greek word was used for various diseases affecting the skin–not necessarily leprosy.
17:21 Or among
17:24 Some manuscripts do not have in his day.
17:35 Some manuscripts left. 36 Two men will be in the field; one

Keep nailing yourself and why are some manuscripts leaving verse 36 in the inspired word of God.

Does it affect the text in anyway?

It shows that its corrupt.


Now as from now henceforth, when you are giving me any verse from the bible, let me know the year the version was produced because some earlier publication are omitting some verses while the latest publications are inputting same.

Let me further expose you:

Get  RSV published in 1952 and you will notice that Mark 16 v 19, Luke 24 v 15 and John 8 v 1-10 ARE MISSING WHILE THE SAME VERSES WERE RESTORED IN THE NEXT PUBLICATION OF 1971 after great controversy.

These verses talk about the ascension of Jesus and the women who were taken in adultery. The Living Bible's commentators stated at its footnote p. 79 that most ancient manuscripts omit John 7 v 53-8, 1 - 11.

So please where are the latest publications getting their own verses from?

Does the above not justify the the claim that the Gospel is corrupt, distorted and not in its original state?


The clock is ticking. Accept Islam today, tomorrow may be too late.

@Nwando


The interesting thing about me is that I love reeling out verses from your bible to teach you because I was like you and very conversant with the bible. Besides, its what you belive in. So let me quickly attend to your post.

To shame babs and his father Belial here is the verse in different versions.

You have not been able to do that but you only further exposed the fraud therein in your bible.

Available Translations and Versions for Mat 24:40

KJV - Mat 24:40 - Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
King James Version 1611, 1769

NKJV - Mat 24:40 - "Then two men will be in the field: one will be taken and the other left.
New King James Version © 1982 Thomas Nelson


NLT - Mat 24:40 - "Two men will be working together in the field; one will be taken, the other left.
New Living Translation © 1996 Tyndale Charitable Trust


NIV - Mat 24:40 - Two men will be in the field; one will be taken and the other left.

New International Version © 1973, 1978, 1984 International Bible Society


ESV - Mat 24:40 - “Then two men will be in the field; one will be taken and one left.

The Holy Bible, English Standard Version © 2001 Crossway Bibles


NASB - Mat 24:40 - "Then there will be two men in the field; one will be taken and one will be left.
New American Standard Bible © 1995 Lockman Foundation


RSV - Mat 24:40 - Then two men will be in the field; one is taken and one is left.
Revised Standard Version © 1947, 1952.


ASV - Mat 24:40 - Then shall two man be in the field; one is taken, and one is left:
American Standard Version 1901 Info


Young - Mat 24:40 - Then two men shall be in the field, the one is received, and the one is left;
Robert Young Literal Translation 1862, 1887, 1898 Info


Darby - Mat 24:40 - Then two shall be in the field, one is taken and one is left;
J.N.Darby Translation 1890 Info


Webster - Mat 24:40 - Then will two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
Noah Webster Version 1833 Info


HNV - Mat 24:40 - Then two men will be in the field: one will be taken and one will be left;
Hebrew Names Version 2000 Info


Vulgate - Mat 24:40 - tunc duo erunt in agro unus adsumetur et unus relinquetur
Jerome's Latin Vulgate 405 A.D. Info

If you have been following the thread, you would read that I told him that there is a verse on rapture but your brother ignorantly reeled out Mathew 24 v 40 for me but I was trying to ask him why Luke 17 v 36 is absent in some versions but present in KJV.

Please make sure you read any thread very well before responding.

Now I will deal with your other posts.

I tire for these christian apologists

Seeing, they see not, hearing, they hear not.

@Davidylan

Forget about my "corrupt" bible, please produce the injil and torah allah sent or be silent!

The missing verses shows that its corrupt, distorted.
You have not been able to provide explanation to the missing verses in the bible.

To nail you more, you claimed that the bible is not corrupt but I am telling you that the message given to them is not in its original state.

Now, how do you reconcile a situation where a bible produced in years has verses missing while the latest edition is having the verses and all you could do was deny the corrupt book.

If you really have the original manuscript, why are the verses missing in early edition but present in the latest.

Me sef go join o. Idinrete should please call on me when the lecture is commencing.

@Davidlyan & Nwando


You have been receving more than you bargained for. Keep it up huh but accept Islam before its too late.

Case closed.

Try explain

@Davidylan

You accuser of the brethren . . . those verses are not omitted. If you read those versions you reference, all skip verse 36 and insert it in the footnotes.

Why are they inserted in footnotes, are they not important? Have you checked from all the versions to see that they are really inserted in the footnotes?

Here is the reason - each book of the bible was transcribed from several original copies of manuscripts.

Are you sure? Hope you are aware that the early bibles are having some verses missing but present in the later bible? Where do they get theirs from?

Either by omission or so some copies have entire verses missing, some have a few words missing . . . what the above versions have done is to point out the fact that not all copies of the original manuscripts had those verses you claim are missing.

Brother, keep nailing yourself. Why must important verses be missing in the inspired book of God? If the original copy is not having the verses, where did KJV  get its own from?

If you see a verse missing in any version of the bible just check the footnotes . . . you will invariably find them there.

Do you know the year the bible you are giving me was produced? Please are you aware that I have versions written by same authors but are having verses missing in early publication but present in later publication. Where did he see the verse when it was missing in the early edition.

BUT ALL versions of the bible contain that same EXACT quote in Mathew 24:40!

What of Luke 17 v 36?

When you are able to sort it out, I will give you verses missing in early production but present in the later yet of the version.


@Nwando

Was he willing to die or not?

@Davidlyan

You want me to go find the cross and nails that was used 2000yrs ago? No problem, ii will provide them AS SOON as you can help me fetch allah's lost torah and injil.
Please do so very quickly.

I still do not know why you keep going in circles and denying the glaring truth.

You have been saying that he was crucified abi, and you should be bold enough to provide proof on same.

Are you asking for the lost Gospel when you have been seeing missing verses in your bible and even some verses absent in early versions but present in later versions. Think man, this shows that it is corrupt. Where did the writer cull his own from when early version is not having the verses?

@mdsocks

ahaha ha ,he don reach that level

I think so

Instead of you to challenge him, you are here barking like a hundry dog

Maybe she felt that barking is the best approach.

This is the worst form of intolerance i see on nland from Christains.

I tire for them oooooooooo