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@babs787,

Who art thou? that you should Question God himself he had every right to kill anyone if he wanted but he did not he is God in human form he Open the vials of the angers of God.


The Bible say he is the MIGHTY TERRIBLE ONE YOU DONT KNOW THE BIBLE. JESUS IS GOD and I will never compare My GOD to a mere man that will Answer to Jesus.

You read all the words of Jesus and then you will flee the coming danger. It is very fearful that Jesus said that a man will give acount of every IDLE word that is Uttered.

You Just prepare to meet Jesus at the Judgement seat and I know you will either insult him now . You Claim that Jesus could not be God.

Let me give you this analogy.

A carpenter makes table where you write on and he supplies a great king and when the carpenter puts the table to test infront of the King but the tables breaks and the king is angry the carpenter says he will replace it but the says he wants to sign the release of souls and the capenter says he will form the position of a table so that the king can sign this release order.

This is the reality when the creator can come in form of men to lead and redeem the world from sin. SELAH

Dear Sijien,

You are correct and some people dont know almost every language that existed died before and that is why tribalism is not worth dying for. Languages die off.

I know for a fact that some of this Elite marry their Children out accross tribal lines and some of this same people fan tribal hatred. A man that is tribalistic is a dangerous person wether a yoruba Igbo hausa or Efik.

I am proud to be a Yoruba but I dont go beyond that.

To detribalise this is what I say we do Let us Create our own writing and USE A MINORITY LANGUAGE AS OUR NATIONAL AND OFFICIAL LANGUAGE. OUR MONEY WILL BE MADE IN THIS MONEY OUR TEXT BOOKS WILL BE MADE IN THIS ALSO. Dont get me wrong this is only one step to detribalise.

According to the generally accepted tradition, Aisha (ra) was born about eight years before Hijrah. But according to another narrative in Bukhari (kitabu'l-tafseer) Aisha (ra) is reported to have said that at the time Surah Al-Qamar, the 54th chapter of the Qur'an, was revealed, "I was a young girl". The 54th surah of the Qur'an was revealed nine years before Hijrah. According to this tradition, Aisha (ra) had not only been born before the revelation of the referred surah, but was actually a young girl (jariyah), not an infant (sibyah) at that time. Obviously, if this narrative is held to be true, it is in clear contradiction with the narratives reported by Hisham ibn `urwah. I see absolutely no reason that after the comments of the experts on the narratives of Hisham ibn `urwah, why we should not accept this narrative to be more accurate.

Answer:
Even if we assume this narrative to be accurate, we have no reason to give it more weight than those that are so detailed about Aisha ’s age, describing her playing with her dolls, talking about her girlfriends coming to play with her and hiding when Muhammad entered the room, her memories of playing on the swing when her mother called her and washed her face and took her to Muhammad, her ignorance of what was going on and her “surprise” when Muhammad got into action taking his role as the husband, etc. These events are more likely to be remembered by someone of her childhood than when a particular Surah was revealed. It is more probable that a person confuse one Surah with the other than confuse all those details of her own life.


YOUR DEFENSE
According to a number of narratives, Aisha (ra) accompanied the Muslims in the battle of Badr and Uhud. Furthermore, it is also reported in books of hadith and history that no one under the age of 15 years was allowed to take part in the battle of Uhud. All the boys below 15 years of age were sent back. Aisha 's (ra) participation in the battle of Badr and Uhud clearly indicate that she was not nine or ten years old at that time. After all, women used to accompany men to the battle fields to help them, not to be a burden on them.


Answer:
This is a weak excuse. When the Battle of Badr and Ohud occurred Aisha was 10 to 11 years old. She did not go to be a warier, like the boys. She went to keep Muhammad warm during the nights. Boys who were less than 15 were sent back, but this did not apply to her.

QUESTION
According to Ibn Hisham, the historian, Aisha (ra) accepted Islam quite some time before Umar ibn Khattab (ra). This shows that Aisha (ra) accepted Islam during the first year of Islam. While, if the narrative of Aisha 's (ra) marriage at seven years of age is held to be true, Aisha (ra) should not have been born during the first year of Islam.


Answer:
There is a failure to provide the references to the hadithes that he quotes. But obviously this is an error. To understand and accept a religion, one must he at least intelligent enough to make such decision. That is about 15 years old. But let us be generous and say that age is about 12. If Aisha accepted Islam during the first year of Islam, she must have been 26 years old when Muhammad married her. (12 + 14) First of all, in those days girls married at much younger age. No one stayed that long to get married. And it is very unlikely that a 26-year-old woman plays with her dolls. It shows that some of the Muslim like olabowale and babs 787 are embarrassed of what the Prophet did and are desperately looking for excuses to exonerate him of his improprieties.



Question
According to a narrative reported by Ahmad ibn Hanbal, after the death of Khadijah (ra), when Khaulah (ra) came to the Prophet (pbuh) advising him to marry again, the Prophet (pbuh) asked her regarding the choices she had in her mind. Khaulah said: "You can marry a virgin (bikr) or a woman who has already been married (thayyib)". When the Prophet (pbuh) asked about who the virgin was, Khaulah proposed Aisha 's (ra) name. All those who know the Arabic language, are aware that the word "bikr" in the Arabic language is not used for an immature nine year old girl. The correct word for a young playful girl, as stated earlier is "Jariyah". "Bikr" on the other hand, is used for an unmarried lady, and obviously a nine year old is not a "lady".


Answer:
This explanation is absolutely incorrect. Bikr means virgin and, just as in English is not age specific. In fact Aisha was the second wife of Muhammad (after Khadijah) but Muhammad did not consummate his marriage with her for three years because she was too young. Instead he had to content himself with Umma Salamah, until Aisha matured a little bit more. It would not have made sense to marry a beautiful woman like Aisha and wait for three years to take her home

You tried to use the date of death Aisha (RA ) in your last post

Question
According to Ibn Hajar, Fatimah (ra) was five years older than Aisha (ra). Fatimah (ra) is reported to have been born when the Prophet (pbuh) was 35 years old. Thus, even if this information is taken to be correct, Aisha (ra) could by no means be less than 14 years old at the time of hijrah, and 15 or 16 years old at the time of her marriage.

Answer:
Of course this information cannot be taken as correct. If Aisha was five years older than Fatimah, and Fatimah was born when the Prophet was 35 years old, then Aisha was only 30 years younger than the Prophet. So at the time of her marriage when the Prophet was 54, Aisha must have been 24 yeas old. This is not certainly correct, for the reasons explained above and also it contradicts the Hadith that is quoted about the age of Asma, Aisha ’s sister, who according to that Hadith was 10 years older that Aisha and died in 73 Hijra. So at the time of Hijra Asma must have been 100 –73 = 27 years old, but according to this Hadith she was 34 years old.

The discrepancy between these two hadithes quoted, demonstrate their inaccuracy. It all goes to show that in those days numbers did not mean much. It is more likely that people forget the dates. But events are better remembered. The reports of the tender age of Aisha is consistent with the stories of her childhood, playing with her toys, her girlfriends hiding when Muhammad entered the room, the Prophet playing with her, her ignorance and “surprise” in the night of the nuptials, etc. All those hadithes confirm that she was a little girl. Those who deny the facts and try to prove otherwise, demonstrate their embarrassment of the acts of the Prophet. Perhaps they should be credited for having some scruples and realizing that what the Prophet did was wrong but we cannot praise them for their intellectual honesty or lack of it



Please it took me time to reply you please disapprove the Hadith not me

THIS IS THE BEST WAY GO TO THE GREATNESS IF YOU USE THE NORMAL DEVELOPMENT SYSTEM YOU WILL FAIL BECAUSE YOU WILL HAVE TO DEAL WITH

POLITICIANS
AND GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS THAT ARE PRESSURED INTO CORUPTION.

EMMYDEE I AM HAPPY THAT YOU DID NOT SAY LIKE SOME NIGERIAN IF I WAS THE PRESIDENT I WILL ALSO EAT THE MONEY.

IF YOU GO THROUGH MY MODULE I BELEIVE YOU WILL SUCCED IN LESS THAN 2 YEARS. YOU WILL CREATE A GREAT CORE OF NIGERIANS EVEN AFTER YOU LEAVE POWER YOUR WORK WILL NEVER DIE.

My thoughts of Building a Greater Nigeria

WE HAVE TO HAVE ONE LANGUAGE I SUGGEST WE TAKE A MINORITY LANGUAGE

THE REASON IS THAT WE NEED A LANGUAGE THAT IS NIGERIAN AND THAT WE SPEAK IT AND TEACH IT IN OUR SCHOOLS

WE MUST HAVE TRIBAL PROHIBITTAL STATEMENT ( EQUIVALENT OF TO RACIAL LAWS)

WE MUST ABOLISH STATE OF ORIGIN: IF YOU ARE BORN IN JIGAWA YOU FROM JIGAWA PERIOD

WE MUST INSTALL REFINERY IN ALL STATES ( there is a way you can do without spending a dollar)

WE MUST SET UP A CIVILIAN CORE CONVENTION: THIS PEOPLE SHALL BE CALLED A NEW NAIJA CORE PEOPLE

To set up this you shall

Take 100,000 OR 1,000,000 MEN AND WOMEN from every STATE OF NIGERIA AGES MUST BETWEEN 15 - 25years THEY MAY COME FROM POOR FAMILIES

YOU WILL LOCATE THEM IN A MILITARY-STYLED CAMPS THEY SHALL HAVE

FREE FEEDING


FREE CLOTHING

FREE TEMPORARY SHELTER AND

FREE EDUCATION

IN RETURN YOU SHALL HAVE THEM WORK ON

1 NEW FARMS
2 NEW ROAD NETWORKS TO CITY AND IN THE CITIES
3 USE THIS CIVILIAN CORE IN CLEAN UP EXERCISE
4 BUILDING DAM (IRRIGATION AND OTHERS)
5 AUXILLIARY POLICE AND INTEL OFFICERS
6 BUILDING OF POLICE STATION PRISONS AND COURTS
FOR INTELLIGENCE PURPOSE I WILL STOP HERE
E.T.C

THE QUESTION IS HOW DO YOU GO ABOUT THIS THERE MUST BE A MAN THAT IS HIGHLY SELFLESS AND A GOAL GETTER TO LEAD THIS NEW CIVIL CORE IN THE FEDERATION. YOU MUST BE A MILITARY STRATEGIST OR HAVE ONE UNDER YOU AND SHOULD TREAT THIS AS IF WE ARE AT WAR. THE KIDS THAT WILL BE ADMITTED WILL BE PAID A STIPEN THAT THEY WILL SHARE WITH THEIR PARENTS.

There are many numerical contradictions in the Quran. Can God make so much error in doing simple calculations?

How many days did it take to create Heavens and Earth ?

Quran 7: 54 Your gurdian-Lord is Allah who created the heavens and earth in Six Days

Quran 10: 3 Verily your Lord is Allah, who created the heavens and earth in Six Days

Quran 11:7 He it is Who created the heavens and earth in Six Days
Quran-25:29: He Who created the heavens and earth and all that is between, in Six Days

The above verses clearly state that God created the heaven and Allah created the heaven and the Earth in 6 days. But the verses below stated-

Quran 41: 9 Is it that ye deny Him who created the earth in Two Days ?

Quran 41: 10 He set on the (earth) Mountains standing firm high above it, and bestowed blessing on the earth, and measured therein all things to give them nourishment in due proportion, in FOUR DAYS…

Quran 41: 12 So He completed them (heavens) as seven firmaments in Two days and …

Now do the math: 2(for earth) + 4(for nourishment) + 2 (for heavens) = 8 days; and not 6 days

Similar mistakes you can see in the verse: Quran 4: 11 - 12, and Quran 4: 176 in inheritance law. In these verses one can see the total property after adding all distributed parties adds up more than the available property, i.e., totals become more than 1 which are: 1.125 and 1.25. How come ? A gross mathematical errors, is not it ?

Allah’s Days Equal to 1000 Years or 50,000 Years?

Quran 22: 47 A day in the sight of the Lord is like a thousand years of your reckoning. Quran-32:5: To Him, on a Day, the space whereof will be a thousands years of your rekoning

Quran 70: 4 The angels and the spirit ascend unto him in a day the measure whereof is Fifty thousands years.

So, which one is it? Is the day of Allah equal to 1,000 earth years or 50,000 earth years?

NB
AS I HAVE QUOTED THE QURAN PLEASE QOUTE UT ALSO TO REFUTE ALL THIS SI THAT I CAN READ

This is what I hate about US Nigerians This evil will destroy us Nigerians I am in an african country and I will say that you are asked if you were Igbo and I ask what does it matter. PEOPLE HAVE PRCONCEIVED NOTION ABOUT IGBOS. I BELEIVE IT IS THEIR SOCIAL IDIOSYNCRASIES AND THIS IS GOOD BECAUSE THEIR APPROACH IN A PROBLEM SOLVING IS DIFFERENT WHAT IS VALUALE TO A SOCIAL GROUPING VARIES.

I grew Up in The barracks and I had a feeling that YORUBA a tribe I come from was Inferior. I had since had a very great change of mind We were the ones that farmed before we had the oil boom I beleive that There is No Race or Tribe Under JESUS.

The issue of tribalism is one that is going to destroy Naija and I have been in Arguements with alot of people about tribalism and it is very MYOPIC for any one to put COLORATION ON TRIBES. THE YOURUBA HAVE A COSMOPOLITAN OF MINI SOCIAL GROUPS AND TO SAY THAT ONE TRIBE IS LIGT COMPLEXION IS WRONG.  YORUBA IS THE LARGEST TRIBAL GROUPING IN THE NEGROID WORLD AND THEY HAVE THE VARIETY.

We cry foul all day about The Robery and the Slavery of america and If a Black AFRICAN AMERICAN SEES YOU IN THE STATE THEY CALL YOU AFRICA MAN.

THERE IS NAME CALLING AMONGST BLACK PEOPLE THIS IS WRONG IN GHANA SOME PEOPLE CALL US BLOOD SUCKERS ( ASHOLA ME) THIS IS THE MORE REASON WE HAVE TO BUILD A NIGERIA WHERE WE RESPECT EACH OTHER.

WE HAVE BAD LEADERSHIP THAT IS JUST ALL A LEADER THAT WILL UNIFY THE COUNTRY AND IT PEOPLE FOR THE GOOD OF THE PEOPLE,

WE DONT NEED A HONEST LEADER  WE NEED A LEADER THAT WILL HAVE THE PEOPLE AT HEART BE IT IGBO YORUBA HAUSA.

IF I HAD MY WAY I WOULD MAKE US SPEAK ONE NIGERIAN LANGUAGE IF YOU ASK ME I HAVE ARGUED THAT THE BEST IS TO USE A MINORITY LANGUAGE LIKE IGALA TIV OR EFIK.  

LETS STOP THIS "YORUBAS ARE BLACK and fearful people". one of the first violent and famous armed robber was a Oyenusi a yoruba. people are different in option to resolve conflict. everyone has a distinctive social Niche and you must appreciate them. You must appreciate where you are from but that is the end.

The ISSUE OF BIAFRA SHOULD BE UNDERSTOOD THAT OJUKWU WAS MILLITARY OFFICER and  AWOLOWO THE POLITICIAN WAS A CIVILLIAN AND THIS PEOPLE COULD NOT HAVE CARVED OUT STATES OUT OF NIGERIAN STATE. I have been Arguing this for over 15 years and I know why this wont go away  I will post a thread to prefer solution to this if the government will hear me Out. GOD BLESS NIGERIA THE LAND OF THE PLAIN AND MIGHTY.

@bab787


SANCTIONING OF KILLING IN THE QURAN

The verses which state that Islam is to be "shown" to people of other faiths who, if they refuse to acknowledge, accept and follow it, are then are to be slain (suras 9:5, 47:5, and 8:39 among others).

THE CONFUSIONISM IN THE QURAN

Since sura 9 was among the last to be “revealed to Muhammad”, it logically abrogates sura 2:256. In the case of Christians and Jews specifically, the Quran states they may continue to worship as their faiths require with certain provisons: they pay a tax to worship as they require, their temples of worship do not exceed in height those of Islam, they acknowledge the supremacy of Islam. So You can worship as a Christian but you Just need to bow to Islam. This one na Heavy Contradiction.

Listen To the Translations

Arabic: Walaqad atayna moosa tisAAa ayatin bayyinatin fais-al banee isra-eela ith jaahum faqala lahu firAAawnu innee laathunnuka ya moosa mashooran

Translation : We do not cancel any verse nor let it be forgotten instead We bring something better than it or else something similar. Do you not know that God is Capable of everything?


Make I Explain Further For My Fellow brothers and Sisters

While the Quran does initially state that Muslims and others are to live amicably with each other, this teaching is abrogated by later verses which state that Islam is to be “shown” to people of other faiths who, if they refuse to acknowledge, accept and follow it, are then are to be slain (suras 9:5, 47:5, and 8:39 among others). These contradict

sura 2:256, “There is no compulsion in religion”. Since sura 9 was among the last to be “revealed to Muhammad”, it logically abrogates sura 2:256.

Are you serious? “But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the pagans wherever ye find them, seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war)” 9:5 Osama Bin Ladin used the same verse within his fatwa to justify his spree of attacks.

I will go to The Sexual SANCTIONED IMMORALITY IN THE QURAN IN THE BIBLE IT IS NOT SANCTIONED BY CHRIST (GOD)

FAKE SANCTIONED MARRIAGES PRCTICED BY DIFFERENT SECTS OF ISLAM

He Who needs sex in a hurry but does not want to go through the elaborate ritual of marriage and the payment of expensive dower? Of course, many people would love to have this kind of quickie sex without much obligations. No wonder that there are so many women engaged in the world’s oldest profession just to meet this demand from depraved men. In modern parlance, we call it ‘one-night’ stand. Believe it or not, Islam has its equivalence too!

The Islamic counterpart of one-night stand is known as the M’uta marriage. In this kind of contract marriage, a man simply contracts a woman to sleep with him for a brief period only. Although the Sunnis have banned the M'uta system, it is very much in practice among the Shiites. It is quite possible to have a M'uta marriage every night and kick the woman out next morning. There is no need of divorce in a M'uta marriage. This type of marriage is a contract to sleep together and that is all.

It is stated that Imam Hasan, the grandson of Muhammad MFHS collected up to three hundred sex partners (the Islamic terminology is temporary wives) besides his regular wives, to have one-night stand with them. Imam Hasan was definitely an Islamic 'Playboy' of his time

FROM THE HADITH

Sahih Muslim Book 008, Number 3310:
'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported: Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) married me when I was six years old, and I was admitted to his house when I was nine years old.


Sahih Bukhari 5.236.
Narrated Hisham's father:
Khadija died three years before the Prophet departed to Medina. He stayed there for two years or so and then he married 'Aisha when she was a girl of six years of age, and he consumed that marriage when she was nine years old.


Sunan Abu-Dawud Book 41, Number 4915, also Number 4916 and Number 4917
Narrated Aisha, Ummul Mu'minin:
The Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) married me when I was seven or six. When we came to Medina, some women came. according to Bishr's version: Umm Ruman came to me when I was swinging. They took me, made me prepared and decorated me. I was then brought to the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him), and he took up cohabitation with me when I was nine. She halted me at the door, and I burst into laughter.

In the above hadith we read that Ayesha was swinging, This is a play of little girls not grown up people. The following Hadith is particularly interesting because it shows that Ayesha was so small that was not aware what was going on when the Holy Prophet “surprised” her by going to her.

Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 90
Narrated Aisha:
When the Prophet married me, my mother came to me and made me enter the house (of the Prophet) and nothing surprised me but the coming of Allah's Apostle to me in the forenoon.


Must have been quite a surprise! But the following is also interesting because it demonstrates that she was just a kid playing with her dolls. Pay attention to what the interpreter wrote in the parenthesis. (She was a little girl, not yet reached the age of puberty)

PLS READ JSUT THIS FEW ONES AND FIRE BACK AT ME
SANMI

@ bab787

You see you are know no that the times this was mentioned in the bible God dealt with Isreal as a state so there alot of effort by God to establish a state Theocratic rule. It is this Islam and some Other religions of the World tried to copy. Even When Christ left State tried to make Jesus Way of life a State religion but it will never work it has never worked. You accept Jesus as your PERSONAL LORD AND SAVIUOR.

Jesus brought a personal Tie back to God ( religion means tie back) In the old testament you saw God dealing with Nations more than individuals and when he did deal with individuals he used it to save so many people. God put the Old Testament there for it show the difference between his Son and those of his prophet how this was Abasing to The Royalty of The GOD HEAD BUT YOU SEE THE GOD IN THE BIBLE IS VERY MEEK AND HUMBLE SO THAT HE TOOK UP HUMAN FORM TO COME TO EARTH AND BE HUMAN SO THAT YOU CAN SEE HIM AND FOLLOW HIS WAYS TO HEAVEN.

@gbadex

You cannot use hatred to win a hate religion. The Islam I know very well is not peaceful the purest form of it is not peaceful atleast from their books. Any infidel nation must be attacked and turn to Islam that is the Crust of Islam. If you dont accept Islam you will be dealt with.

This religion has alot of hate when you throw hate at them they will only have more hate you need to keep explaining to him and if he dies in his sin then you have done your best. If you read the Quran very well you see what I am saying and read the hadith also. You notice that when you point out quotes from the hadith they may tell you that it is not authentic or some excuse. When you tell them about some moral issues that the Quran and Islam Skips you will wonder why people are stilling worshiping islam.

When I was Younger I was Listening to a Mullah and he said during war Soldiers are allowed to take temporary Wives (prostitute) This is a Book that project Immorality listen to Jesus the saviour of our souls. He was Moral and holy. You just let the freedom of expression women in Western Democracy be Practiced in Islamic nation you will be Shocked What abomination you will see among Islamic Moralist. you will see

MOTHER SLEEPING WITH SON
SISTER SLEEPING WITH BROTHER
FATHER SLEEPING WITH DAUGHTER

So many things will be revealed The abomination of desolation read the Bible look at the midle east Jesus said when you see that Isreal is surrounded know that the end is near. Just dont you wonder why America attacked Iraq That is Babylon the great. Look at all the nations that wil partake in the end scene it was iraq that had not been brought in fully.

Just watch the Middle east and you will be shocked at the happenings Islamic Leaders Have isreali or Isreali trained guards as their body guards you wonder What the Islamic leaders are Afraid of They are fighting Isreal and they have isreali guards Protecting them.


@belloti

Answering you is hard because you are a man that you dont want to meet the man that has the world in his palm JESUS in the bible we were created by God in his image. in your Quran there is a Difference. You have a diff religion and the more you know the better you can understand the difference just as you have btween maths and english.

@reverend

I used to joke about the bible alot in my days of Ignorance and My brother I had fear in my heart. THE WORM DIETH NOT. All what you have copied is mere USE of language and contextual meaning of the word.

if there anything like Philology of THe WORD GOD THEN WE CAN SAY THAT WE CAN CRITIC THE WORDS OF GOD. THERE IS HOWEVER THE LANGUAGE OF THE BIBLE AND IF YOU DONT KNOW IT YOU DONT KNOW IT SIMPLE.

I will give you more contradiction

THE BIBLE SAYS AND THE 2 shall be 1
In physics that I know very well there are different types of light there are lights you cant even see.
I can respond to all you said but it will take along time to do this.
There is a language of the bible You have to read it everytime if not you will forget it like any other Language
You will know that the bible was canonised over a period of 4000years no book has ever had the author take time the theme of the bible is the same the location are accurate the landmarks are still there.
In the bible people lie and killed and even raped and there are wittness to write and talk about it.
Sin is what is Hated most in the bible wether you were from Iran or Egypt

Learn The language of the Bible You must be born again to do this, I hope you will say Jesus said you should go into the womb of your mother(THIS IS ANOTHER LANGUAGE OF THE BIBLE)

@olabowale

I was working on my personal projects and thanks for the concern. Back to business. The Christ that the bible talked about was withnessed by people around him because out of 2 or more wittness a truth is established. Look at Christ and look at his Character and then look at another Character like Muhamed.

Look at the bible a book written over a span 4000 years Due dillingence is done with time and it took Jesus Christ (Not The one you have in the quran).

We were created in The Image of God
God gave us Choice in The bible
Attonement is Different In the bible ( by blood)
there are many differences and I can say that our relatioship with God through the books is different

@babyosisi

The issue you mentioned about the deeperlife on TV Seem to Suggest that man was created for TV. everything that was created hath a good use A gun has a good use and it took time before deeper life came to TV.

You will agree that there is alot of evil on Tv and and you must know that for a pastor that have taught the word will never want his followers to be desroyed by the Indecency on TV. You did not have religious acces Tv and people in control of the signals probably dont care about your love for God.

The Issue of Body Odour is one that is clear and simple there is perfumes in the soap we use and this is for refreshing the bad odour of the previous day is rplaced by the perfume in the soap. The harder perfumes is what is not good because it is choking and does not enhance your naturilty rather it shuts you out.

Imagine if everyone was using Isimayaki 212 or other strong perfume in a room what would be the end result. You can use body spray or deodouriser so that will you not offend of the Air. However you cannot over do it. If you have a bad smell be you deeperlifer or not I will not be comfortable with you.

There are various Issue and we should look and let the lord help us.
HAIR DO : WHAT IS WRONG WITH THE ONE GOD GAVE US WHY ARENT THE WHITE MAKING THEIR HAIR LIKE OURS
BLEACHING: WHY DO WE HAVE PEOPLE TAKING OUT THEIR SKIN COLOR AND THE WHITE PEOPLE ARE NOT MAKING THEIR SKIN BLACK
PIERCING OF BODY: IS IT MASCILINE OR FEMINE ? PLEASE BACK IT UP IN THE BIBLE
COVERING OF HAIR: I KNOW IT IS ONLY WHEN PRAYING WE ARE TO DO THIS AS WOMEN. THIS WAS DONE BY OLD CHRISTIAN AND THE GOD THEN IS SAME NOW AS A WOMAN COVER YOUR HAIR WHEN PRAYING

look and judge

@ olabowale

I have read the history of the church and I know the persecution as it occured. The Christian were persecuted by The roman emperors and when Religion entered into the state all christians that did not worship "CHRISTIANITY OF THE STATE" were persecuted not only this there were so many other small religions some escaped to other parts of the world.

The creation of islam is one that occurred 600 years After Christ departure. you must know that Islam was created in replication to provide an opposition or dissent religious force. The true and purest form of Islam is when the Sharia is adhered strictly to. There is no pure form of Islam if you dont have it as a state religion.

The problems between Muslims is clearly seen that There are extrmist that beleive that the full laws of the Hadith Quran and Sharia should be practised. The purest form of Islam does not allow alot of things so they strive to populate the state UMMAH and this has political power to take over the whole region they occupy. some of the Big shots in the Arab/Islamic world own alot of properties in western worlds and yet the followers of this people know and they are angry and what to overthrow this leaders.

The Birth of Terror Suspect OSAMA BIN LADEN was built on the fact that no infidel Army should be present in the holy land Saudia Arabia, If you know very well that Osama Bin Laden was built by the USA to destroy the CCCP Grip On Afghanistan. They Recruited alot of other people and some of who carried out recent the bombings in Kenya and parts of east Africa. This people were trained by the USA. The USA did not create the hatred they only helped to water it because they wanted to bring down the Soviets Occupation of Afghanistan.

The pure form Christianity has nothing to do with politics infact it has nothing to do with military or any arm of Governing just look at Jesus life you will see what i am saying. The True Islam is filled with hate verses.

Regards
my brother
sanmi

The truth remains let us search and look at the conversions of Christians in Egypt . The minority Christian In Egypt are not finding it easy.

There was a day i was Having my Quiet time and I stumbled on a place where Jesus was Categoric of how HARD/ difficult it was to get into heaven.

I know to get to heaven is not easy not because God makes it hard but because we have not choosen to be different and to be in christ.

you need to know that soon the wheat will be seperated from the chaff. I have studied Christian history and I am very watchful of the Signs of The end and I am very sure that deeperlife will just be one of those churches that will be holy within and without.

We can overemphasize outward holiness. Jesus was modest. You need to understand we must be the Ligt of the world be most show the world how to dress how to speak how to live holy inwardly and outwardly.

@ havilla Please try to be holy in your statements to people of other faiths. you need not attack the person that serves a god but you must attack the religion and the magical books.

back to dearzi the bible is clear Holiness without which no man shall see the Lord. Moses is when he left egypt and seen my his wife to be they called him an Egyptian because he dressed like one. we are called out to to holy. The true meaning of Church, French Eglise, Is a Word ECCLESIA Which means called Out.

We are caled out to be seperate from the world and we are supposed to the the Light of the world we should be point to christ our God.

Dear All, Read the Interview Pastor Tb Joshua Has with the Journalist. He said that he did not want to talk of His conversion. Why?

Anyway I have learnt not to Judge any Spirit that Calls Jesus The Son of Most High God. Any one that comes in the name of the Lord I will take him as such, but I shall watch out for the Tree and The fruits it bears thereof. How Do I know what type of fruit he bears.

True Test Of A man of God
listen to his preaching is it Holy? does it bear the fruit of the spirit. Humility Meekness, Goodness Kindness temperament Love Joy does his life direct you to Jesus alone. Does he say it words and deeds.

you are very correct and you are blessed.

please we need an answer.

@ mizieya,

You are being Short sighted Quote the bible please. I can write same and more jargons I need to back them up.

the death and ressurection is easter in it totality. the bunny is another man's way of remembering it.

not 9 year olds please my brother, besides i have given you what I know about Aisha in your books please you do your research and back them with Islamic quotes.

@ KaG,

You know My personal experince with religion took along time for to come to know the true mind of The owner of the universe.

I had very little faith in The bible at that time. I did not beleive in hell and i made jest of The Judgement of God and his fairness to humanity that he made in his Image.

I now look at the example of the human race where a man can have a Child and can kill the Child for no cause or a woman can kill her husband or child for non sensical reason.

Those times of my ignorance there was no way I thought there will be a tv screen or memory for any being up or down to know about me to bring into evidence against me.

I now know tha even as humans you can be recorded for days or years on a very small device. I never beleived that we could numbered the whole earth My Ignorance was fed by The fact that some chips had not been invented at the time.

You know of Isreal I have read several WAR books from my Dads Library ( He Was Navy Officer In NIGERIAN NAVY ). I saw the places spoken of in the bible by the War Account books some of the accounts I later understood that Isreal Had ceased to a state before 1947.

I read where the bible said he will Gather his Children from all the corners of the world. I questioned how it was possible that they would be 100% true Jew. I now understood the reason for the Holocaust. The jews had a Tradition they kept for years they hardly mixed and this was one of the things that feed Hitlers hatred.

My brother when I got this revealed to me not by a pastor by my own inquisitveness I was Afraid of God, You wondered why Hitler hated the Jews and Loved his people German.

The Jews have a problem of leadership and this problem is replicated in a particular country. I ask you can you tell me why did the USA attack Iraq. Iraq had no meaniful weapon to fight but the USA Attacked them. The Middle East news is Stale news if you read the Bible with patience and Understanding.

I dicovered so many other things. Please I beg you research and see for yourself with an open mind. you may think I lack logical reason But all what happens in the Middle East beats logic.

Isreal can deal ruthlessly with any army in the world but take a look at their size and where they are . I know because Of my understanding on Wars.

It remain the Appearance of The 10.

Dressing if for Covering and Identity Purposes.

I must preserve my body and cover my body I must not be a stumbling block to my brother. I mus be very modest. My body belong to God and my husband or Wife, This is holiness and devotion.

Anything that does not[b] preserve[/b] my body you must know I can not allow this is modesty. I ask where in the bible that smoking wee cocaine or cigarette is a sin.

MY BROTHER OLABOWALE,

PLEASE HELP GIVE ME HIS SURA OR HADITH QUOTATION YOU ARE NOT DOING ME ANY FAVOURS AT ALL PLEASE QOUTE THE QURAN FOR ME AND THEN ARGUE.

THERE ARE ONLINE QURAN PLEASE YOU CAN QUOTE FROM THEM AND I WILL CHECK OK. THE ONLY REPRESENTATIVE OF YOUR ALLAH IS THE AL QURANI AND THE HADITH. LET US HAVE A GOOD ARGUEMENT.

ANYWAY QUOTE THE QURAN I HAVE EXTENSIVELY DONE SO ON THIS POSTINGS. WHEN YOU OR SOME SAID THAT THERE IS NO WHERE IN THE QURAN/HADITH STONING IS ACCEPTED I QOUTED IT.

PLEASE QUOTE FOR ME AND I WILL READ. THERE IS FREE QURAN ONLINE PEOPLE CAN READ THEMSELVES. MY DESIRE IS NOT TO MAKE YOU A CHRISTIAN MY AIM IS TO MAKE YOU AND OTHERS SEE THE QURAN AND THE HADITH IN THE TRUE LIGHT IT IS.

The Issue is not Muslims The Issue Is The Al Quran The Hadith. The Hate Comes from the Quran and Hadith. The Hatred against Muslims cannot solve the problems you must know that Fanatics are in everywhere in most religions. But the true Muslim is a tree of Hate.

We cannot win ny hate.

Our brothers die in the north because of a books of Islam even they die we should not propagate the Evils that we seek to stop. We must be ready to die for peace by all peaceful means We must Emulate Goodness and remember Holiness without which no man shall see the lord.

@Firdaus4them

You like attacking the personality of people that is not Right my brother.

Anyway the verses that you Quote are very self explanatory.

The Epistle was Written to correct fornication in the Corinthian church That is the context at which the Letter was written by the inspirition of The holy Ghost.

1 Corinthians 7:1
"Now for the matters you wrote about: It is good for a man not to marry

The people had a problem with Immorality.

please why do you help me back them up with Quotation.

So you agree that He was a Pedophile by Choice and it was not the Norm Then?

She was A Special Child not a Women !!!!!!!!!!!!! Her Sexual Reproductiveness was never complete!! dont let us do this can you or will you do this to ay Child?

You want me to quote more Verses or what?

oh you say you have not read your quran But on the Site you quoted to me you can get an online Al Quran. I do hope that you can do somthing about this matter. I always try to bring the contradiction of the Quran one by one you can answer me one by one.

[b]Sahih Bukhari 7.18
Narrated 'Ursa:
The Prophet asked Abu Bakr for 'Aisha's hand in marriage. Abu Bakr said "But I am your brother." The Prophet said, "You are my brother in Allah's religion and His Book, but she (Aisha) is lawful for me to marry."

Arabs were a primitive lot with little rules to abide. Yet they had some code of ethics that they honored scrupulously. For example, although they fought all the year round, they abstained from hostilities during certain holy months of the year. They also considered Mecca to be a holy city and did not make war against it. A adopted son’s wife was deemed to be a daughter in law and they would not marry her. Also it was customary that close friends made a pact of brotherhood and considered each other as true brothers. The Prophet disregarded all of these rules anytime they stood between him and his interests or whims.

yet Olabowale look o Abu Bakr and Muhammad had pledged to each other to be brothers. So according to their costoms Ayesha was supposed to be like a niece to the Holy Prophet. Yet that did not stop him to ask her hand even when she was only six years old.

But this moral relativist Prophet would use the same excuse to reject a woman he did not like.

see the selectiveness

Sahih Bukhari V.7, B62, N. 37
Narrated Ibn 'Abbas:
It was said to the Prophet, "Won't you marry the daughter of Hamza?" He said, "She is my foster niece (brother's daughter). "[/b]


please read what i posted read the Quran.

I have tried never to pick out Contradiction from the Quran with any other books.