Politics › Re: Forfeited $460,000 Was A Civil Matter: Tinubu's Witness, Bamidele Tells Tribunal by Badgers14: 6:19pm On Jul 05, 2023 |
GeneralDae: Give me examples of these plea deals similar to Tinubu's case. Again you are the one bringing plea deal into this. There are thousands of plea deals going on every corner of the U.S at the moment.. There have been millions of plea deals done in the U.S in the past 30 years... You could always research and dig in to find more information.. While you are digging.. remember not every detail of the deals are mentioned in the court papers and sometimes plea deals are not even mentioned in court papers even tho it happened.. When you are a seasoned investigating journalist or a trial lawyer.. or being around in the field in one way or the other... if you see a case and the outcome.. then you can easily put 2 and 2 together and understand what happened. |
Politics › Re: Forfeited $460,000 Was A Civil Matter: Tinubu's Witness, Bamidele Tells Tribunal by Badgers14: 6:09pm On Jul 05, 2023 |
GeneralDae: In 1993 guidelines against drug cases were even stricter. You are just bringing guesswork into court processes. Court only deals with facts on ground. The facts available, not what we think could have happened. Even during Ronald Reagans tenure with his war on drugs approach.. There were plea deals in drug cases.. Again, everything depends on the circumstances and facts surrounding a case.. what prosecutors have to work with.... |
Politics › Re: Forfeited $460,000 Was A Civil Matter: Tinubu's Witness, Bamidele Tells Tribunal by Badgers14: 6:05pm On Jul 05, 2023 |
M4A1carbine: Self indictment by your own witness has become rocket science? Omo, carry that useless reasoning and flush it. See the way you and your crew members are spamming and replying yourselves as if your opinion count. The criminal has be busted by his own witness. 
If you are a court room brawler ( litigation/trial lawyer).. flipping your witness during cross is one of those many nightmares.. Remember this is someone you brought to boster your case and their testimony against any part of your case is usually regarded high because you can't say the other party prepped them to say this or say that.. |
Politics › Re: Forfeited $460,000 Was A Civil Matter: Tinubu's Witness, Bamidele Tells Tribunal by Badgers14: 6:02pm On Jul 05, 2023 |
GeneralDae: A drug case supposedly worth millions of dollars in 1993 is big. 'Supposedly' that's hypothetical. Again, recall in one of my posts I mentioned the guidelines 30 years ago and now are not usually the same.. Again, there might be other circumstances surrounding a case that are not captured in court papers or maybe it was captured.. All we see online was the final disposition of the case and not the court transcript of what happened day to day in court and during investigation of the case. |
Politics › Re: Forfeited $460,000 Was A Civil Matter: Tinubu's Witness, Bamidele Tells Tribunal by Badgers14: 5:59pm On Jul 05, 2023 |
Lotanna2: That is what he is driving at Who was driving?? My question was, did Mr. Obi or through his lawyers assert that Mr. Tinubu was 'convicted' by a court of law in the U.S? |
Politics › Re: Forfeited $460,000 Was A Civil Matter: Tinubu's Witness, Bamidele Tells Tribunal by Badgers14: 5:58pm On Jul 05, 2023 |
GeneralDae: Are there similar cases in America you could show us where there was an expungement in a big drug case and the person only forfeited and didn't go to jail? How big is big?? This happens all the time.. Depending on the complexity of the case and the records of the suspect.. |
Politics › Re: Forfeited $460,000 Was A Civil Matter: Tinubu's Witness, Bamidele Tells Tribunal by Badgers14: 5:57pm On Jul 05, 2023 |
Lotanna2: The constitution is only interested in whether a candidate was convicted by a court or not.there is no chance conviction,just a forfeiture. Did Mr. OBI'S petition indicate Mr. Tinubu was convicted by a court of law in the U.S?? |
Politics › Re: Forfeited $460,000 Was A Civil Matter: Tinubu's Witness, Bamidele Tells Tribunal by Badgers14: 5:55pm On Jul 05, 2023 |
lapintoz: How come all the people foaming for mouth here no do pim for the story on Ebonyi and Enugu unknown gunmen.
I can see you are all playing ostrich.....
Simon Ikpea don hold una blocuss
SHAME ON YOU ALL One of the many problems we face in this country is in your comment.. Deviating from an issue. While it was reprehensible what happened in Enugu and Ebonyi.. This post here was not about that... It was about sometime else and we shouldn't deviate from that... There's another thread that was created for those incidents and they are here in the front page.. |
Politics › Re: Forfeited $460,000 Was A Civil Matter: Tinubu's Witness, Bamidele Tells Tribunal by Badgers14: 5:53pm On Jul 05, 2023 |
onuman: Forfeiture of illegal money from drugs is is the same as found guilty of criminal offence. It does not necessarily mean that anyone found guilty of an offence goes to prison. 💯 |
Politics › Re: Forfeited $460,000 Was A Civil Matter: Tinubu's Witness, Bamidele Tells Tribunal by Badgers14: 5:51pm On Jul 05, 2023 |
Lotanna2: True but it not a conviction unfortunately.assuming it was,it is past 10 years.another dead end for obi No conviction 'could' be part of a plea deal.. Plea deal is not just prosecutor slapping an offer on a table and the defense swallowing it.. remember it is called a 'deal'.. in making deals, you give me this and I give you that.. |
Politics › Re: Forfeited $460,000 Was A Civil Matter: Tinubu's Witness, Bamidele Tells Tribunal by Badgers14: 5:49pm On Jul 05, 2023 |
GeneralDae: So you just imposed plea deal on the case. If there is no evidence of a plea deal, there's no need to suppose it. Court deals only with facts. Besides, in a drug crime case, a plea deal doesn't mean you wouldn't serve your prison terms. If you have examples to the contrary, you can post it here. Well, there's always tricks to a trade... they don't teach everything in law school.. |
Politics › Re: Forfeited $460,000 Was A Civil Matter: Tinubu's Witness, Bamidele Tells Tribunal by Badgers14: 5:41pm On Jul 05, 2023 |
GeneralDae: But there's no evidence of any plea deal in the court report. I never said their was. The purpose of my post was to say that it could be a possibility. Also plea deal are 'not always' advertised in court documents.. Recall, the court case was over 30 years ago and the guidelines then and now are not always the same. |
Politics › Re: Forfeited $460,000 Was A Civil Matter: Tinubu's Witness, Bamidele Tells Tribunal by Badgers14: 5:38pm On Jul 05, 2023 |
GeneralDae: I don't know what you are arguing. No one ever denied it was about illicit drug business but rather was Tinubu involved in it to warrant a criminal forfeiture plus jail? or he just innocently kept money for his client in America who was involved, which would then amount to only a civil forfeiture of the funds without further Penalties? The latter scenario was what happened. I am not arguing with anyone.. I just stated my opinion... you can state yours as well and we can always agree to disagree.. In real life scenario, prosecutors often offers a plea deal with a suspect.. basically if you make their life easy... they make yours easy as well.. Someone that was picked up as a suspect in a crime depending on the complexity of the case and the corporation of the suspect.. prosecution sometimes offer them a soft landing.. |
Politics › Re: Forfeited $460,000 Was A Civil Matter: Tinubu's Witness, Bamidele Tells Tribunal by Badgers14: 5:35pm On Jul 05, 2023 |
Lotanna2: Yes media highlight.but was he convicted? Was it a criminal case? Prosecutors sometimes structure a plea deal like that.. 'make our jobs easy and we make your life easy..' |
Politics › Re: Forfeited $460,000 Was A Civil Matter: Tinubu's Witness, Bamidele Tells Tribunal by Badgers14: 5:10pm On Jul 05, 2023 |
Lotanna2: He wasn't flipped,apc has always insisted that it was civil forfeiture Witness admitted under cross that it was as a result of illicit drug business.. that was the highlight.. |
Politics › Re: Forfeited $460,000 Was A Civil Matter: Tinubu's Witness, Bamidele Tells Tribunal by Badgers14: 4:37pm On Jul 05, 2023 |
Successfully flipping a witness in a high profile case.. wow  |
Sports › Re: Carlo Ancelotti To Become Brazil's Coach From June 2024 by Badgers14: 11:48am On Jul 05, 2023 |
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Education › Re: Ejikeme Mmesoma: Can JAMB Type May This Way? by Badgers14: 4:22pm On Jul 04, 2023 |
Journalism is dead is this country..
What stops the media company seeking for truth to pay jamb scratch card themselves and check the results on their end and compare their output with the output the girl is showcasing so we all can spot the difference?? |
Politics › Re: Chinese Warship Arrives Nigeria by Badgers14: 4:47pm On Jul 02, 2023 |
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Politics › Re: Obi-Datti Campaign Raises Alarm Over Attempts To ‘Doctor’ FCT Results by Badgers14: 4:38pm On Jul 02, 2023 |
Parachoco: It does not make any sense to doctor what all the Political Parties have
The Result for each Polling Unit is with LP
If Obi think INEC wants to doctor the result, let him tender the real results alongside INEC doctored result
Simple As ABC INEC is busy objecting in court to documents they (INEC) certified.  |
Nairaland General › Re: Share Your Experience As A Small Sized/petite Individual by Badgers14: 6:07pm On Jul 01, 2023 |
Aaaaarghmed: The last girl I dated..when w started dating..she looked young.Along the line she grew older than me in the relationship.pple dey ask if na my elder sister  That means you really finished her...  |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Abortion Ban Doesn't Violate State Constitution - Indiana Supreme Court by Badgers14: 6:33pm On Jun 30, 2023 |
TemplarLandry: Republicans are pro-life. That's one of the reasons why I love them. Pro life that also supports death penalty.. Can you explain that to me? |
Properties › Re: PLOTS AT TAYAN HOMES IDU, ABUJA BY TRANE STATION by Badgers14: 2:38am On Jun 26, 2023 |
LeonOgu: We take you for site inspection free of charge How much is a plot in this estate and what's the size of the plot? |
Politics › Re: Enugu Governorship Election Tribunal Orders Mbah To Appear Before It On Friday. by Badgers14: 10:27am On Jun 23, 2023 |
Shameful !!
Why can't INEC with all the money they give them during election investigate simply issues like this?
What stops them from having one person in their offices in each state tasked with verification of documents from prospective candidates?
Verify from WAEC, NECO, JAMB, NYSC etc.. and request expedite response from them
Alot of this post election wahala would stop even before the election.. |
Politics › Re: Tribunal: Tinubu, INEC Kick As Peter Obi Tenders Total Pvcs In 32 States by Badgers14: 10:08am On Jun 22, 2023 |
I wonder why INEC is objecting and objecting on documents they certified??
On what grounds were they objecting tho? Were the documents falsified??
The SAN for INEC and APC are making mockery of themselves also..
Shame! |
Politics › Re: FG Votes N24 Billion For 10th NASS Members’ Accommodation by Badgers14: 8:15am On Jun 21, 2023 |
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Sports › Re: Awoniyi Posts Photo Of His Wife And Son To Mark His Wedding Anniversary by Badgers14: 6:22pm On Jun 18, 2023 |
orohbiro: I fine pass the wife Make we fry sand? |
Programming › Re: I Built A Lpg Gas Station Sales Software Script With Php. by Badgers14: 2:00pm On Jun 18, 2023 |
Franzee: Still selling script How much for the script? |
Family › Re: 18-Year-Old Christianah Dania Ologun Is Missing In Abuja (Photo) by Badgers14: 8:28am On Jun 16, 2023 |
bigiyaro: Missing for two nights as how? Contact bolt to release the profile of the drive she booked and where the ride ended, the police can used her call log to do the rest of the tracking. |
Family › Re: 18-Year-Old Christianah Dania Ologun Is Missing In Abuja (Photo) by Badgers14: 8:28am On Jun 16, 2023 |
Why can't out security agency track her phone?? |
Politics › Re: INEC Tenders Tinubu's Biodata Form, BVAS Report For 36 States, FCT by Badgers14: 8:32pm On Jun 15, 2023 |
Why is INEC objecting to the admissibility of documents that they certified?
This report is not clear! |
Food › Re: Cook-a-thon: Man Offers Chef Damilola Two Weeks Cook Tour In US by Badgers14: 10:09pm On Jun 12, 2023 |
My own is, who is eating the food cooked from this marathon cooking sessions?? I want to be invited oooo.. as they are cooking for 120 hrs, I fit dey chop for the food for 120 hrs too  |