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Boy, I missed Gattuso's playing days.

I don't know if there would be ever a Squad like the likes of Gattuso, Ambrosini, Nesta, Maldini, Pipo Inzaghi, Dida, Stam etc..

AC Milan was fun to watch back then.

Enyinne:
Abi oo , everyone is jack of all trade but specialists in one . We all are guilty

Man need to keep body and soul together, Man must whack

n3xt:
The most expensive part of the steel door which is the metal plate is sold N4,500 - N5,000

Prince Royal, Apata - Ibadan

What else would add up to make up the 45k door?

Double Plates would be 9k - 10k
Frames, welding, painting and transport can’t be 36k.

I was looking at the quote like

Again, I don't know this welder they are beating up here and I haven't done any business with him. We have swapped few emails, yes and just like every one could testify, he is really eloquent. But we haven't done any business per se and I haven't met him.

I make my comments solely from what I see on here. What I see is people badgering the guy. Just like a similar strategy used by Nigerian police force " you stole that phone, abi, just tell me you stole it and I will let you walk"
Corrupt cops everywhere else in the world also do this.

This guy have repeatedly stated here, I do some of this work, I pay helper if I have to, I sub the work if there's need for it.. yes , I look online or my colleagues work and see the finished products, if you want them, we will talk the price , I might do some of it, hire a helper to assist or bring in a colleague to assist... people, what is unusual about these arrangements

Is there any engineer here, architect or the likes that will come here and testify that when they have a big job, they do it all by themselves or when they have projects in multiple states, multiple cities at the same time that they are always present throughout the build at every second workmen are on site?? No, they visit the sites frequently yes, but they have a helper that keeps the troops in line, a head bean counter.

I know a reputable builder here but won't drag his name in this conversation ( it is unnecessary) i don't know how many builds he was handling at that moment but I know he was handling a project of 2 of my friends at the same time.. his crew were tied up on a different project and he sourced artisans from the place the projects were situated ... does that mean he is a fraud? No, he delivered a superb build , and I have seen the updates he sent to his clients, the everything, have seen the build myself. It was amazing.. I really wish I could mention name here but I won't drag him here.

That this welder didn't have much of his work posted in a thread. I have engaged an architect here on nairaland that only have few of their work posted, plus a thread not regularly updated for years, but he delivered my work for me and I am happy for it.. I asked why he doesn't update his thread for a potential of more work, he said he doesn't have the time to update the thread, answer back and forth questions and he is doing well for himself.

Just recently, couple of months ago. I came across this posting of a lady advertising her husband's work.. the husband is a carpenter- makes furniture.. she didn't know how to update the threads, make it entertaining etc..like uploading pictures, prices etc.. but she was quickly advised to and she did. She didn't have bunch of thread littering nairaland advertising her husband's work either. I am glad to inform you that I engaged her and husband for a project and they delivered ( it was not for me, but I gifted that to someone). The person that received it was happy with what their hand work. The reason why I engaged their services was not because of thread or no thread. I was happy how that lady was trying to ginger for more business for her husband. My reasoning could be faulty, I know but the money was coming out of my pocket not yours

Again, due diligence is still required, this is not a testimony of how good the welder is but in this climate of fraudulent activities..let's not simply "assume " and come up with stories ( that are really not triggers of fraudulent activities).

As for the price of those doors.. I am currently on top of a project that I was forced to use iron internal doors( I argued and failed to convince folks). The price per door was actually in the neighborhood of 15k-17k per door. And this welder is not the person doing the job.

Mayor78:
You are making yourself look more unserious and melodramatic than a skilled fabricator.

My oga, easy oooo I didn't want to quote your whole write up not to jam up space but take am easy oo..

I have not had any business dealings with this guy and don't know him.

But few points I want to address are,
making 2k profit on the specific doors he was talking about.. this is not unusual in business.. I once worked for a fortune 500 company that have a product line that they make no money selling it but it is very popular with consumers, but they have hundreds of other products that they make boat load of profits from.

The welder man here, does not only deal on that specific doors..I am pretty sure he does, like every other businesses out there have their bread and butter product lines.

Second, dealing with different business. That's not unusual either. Personally I have a white collar job but I have sold t shirts, cars, tiles, ladies wears , umbrella, real estate. Etc. Neither were my full time job just i hear about a deal, if it sounds good to me , I will jump in , make the deal , take my cut and keep moving, I am no expert in my side business, so don't ask me which t shirt material is better or which car brand is more durable . I just look at the numbers, if the numbers are good, I am in

If you have dealt with this guy or knew someone who have and the business went sour, kindly advise us here..

Thanks.

At least he was honest with his age..

Lots of folks claim 19 every year when they are actually 32 yrs.

EgunMogaji2:
Artistic 3D Rendering. This is from the architects perspective. Final product will be different for various reasons.

Are this build and sell or build and rent?

It is not by renovation..

Nigerias biggest issue is maintenance! Can they maintain it... or embezzle the funds year after year??

spyder880:
I have already spent N661k today and yet a lot of materials still remain for us to buy, pan connectors, gums and elbows which I have in my house is not included in this cost, total cost of materials will be about N800,000 befor transportation, workmanship and supervision. The budget is too low.

Oh my!!

This is why landlords becomes stubborn after building their house, after going through this stress to erect a structure, the frustration turns them to tigers

spyder880:
N890,000.00 , but the cost is not going to be enough. Materials are really shooting upwards here.

Wow!!

Prices are really climbing up indeed!!!

Have anyone seen the before pictures?
The picture of the conjoined twins prior to the operation.

spyder880:
Buying some items for the bathroom and kitchen fittings .........

Just curious, what's the budget for the fittings for the whole house.. labor plus materials?

bathroom and kitchen fittings.

Waste of money, no one is worth that much..

But I know for one though, Mancity will get their money's worth business wise... they will commercialize Messi like there's no tomorrow. That's the only way they could recoup but a deal like this does damage the morale in the dressing room.

Imagine playing in the same team with a player that has €750m contract and your contract is only €10m

If he is serious , he will introduce death sentence to any politician taking bribes or misusing public funds.

twinskenny:
Comestar

Thanks

Please what is the correct spelling of this brand of electrical wires/cables.

Cometstar, commester, comister.

Does anyone have a picture of the original packaging?

spyder880:
Yes, POP ceiling boards are fire resistant.

Understood!

What I am trying to find out is if the boards were hand crafted or did you purchase already made plasterboard?

spyder880:
More rooms and living rooms getting ceilings.......

Oga spyder, what kind of ceiling is this? Are they those fire rated plaster boards?

Pete4:
500k...just go with what you have ...but u if want a grand wedding u can settle for 5M

5M for a wedding?

Hmm, you could buy a plot and build 4 bedroom bungalow for that price

Well i always advise people to cut your coat according to size.. some wedding do cost 5M or more alright for folks that can swing it easy..

As for OP, it is possible to do a wedding for 500k.

Just wedding and small reception.

No need to invite all the village people, just the 2 families and few friends.

qdlvy:
You don't need a big yard for some green curb appeal.

You are correct..

But did you notice the listing price for that house

Like I said before, people do have lawns like this in Nigeria but they are not average Nigerians it is expensive to maintain..

Even in L.A, anyone that could afford a house like this can afford to pay someone to manicure the lawns for them.

It is a beautiful concept, magnificent but it takes a lot of work and could add extra maintenance cost to a homeowner which average Nigerian might not be able to keep up with..

qdlvy:
I see. That makes sense. I still believe it's cheaper in the long run and it's worth the effort for the green space it provides and the aesthetics. Lawnmower and sprinkler system shouldn't cost more than $350. Mowing lawns can be done once monthly by the homeowner themselves. I think the biggest problem will be growing the grasses in the first place. Maintenance isn't that difficult. People just tend to do what they see others doing.

Consider the tropical nature of Nigeria. During rainy season, the owner might need to mow once a week.. also figure weed control and again the ever busy nature of a typical Nigerian. Traffic jam to work or shop, traffic jam coming back .. very stressful life

qdlvy:
Hello all. Seeing the debate about interlocking and stamped concrete, I'm curious why most people don't go for landscaping and concrete for the walkway only. What are the advantages of common practices against landscaping and concrete? Water sprinklers are very cheap and DIY friendly. Looks like a no brainer to me but I'm sure I'm missing something.

Examples in the pictures below.

Looks beautiful but ehn to have a manicured lawn like this requires lots of elbow work
I might be wrong but for an average Nigerian we might not be there yet. Figure lots of people build houses and they don't live there full time. Etc. Different circumstances.

The few people I know that have this in their build are not average Nigerians and they pay people to take care of their lawn for them.

Johntemmy:
spoiling his reputation because of shikini money not considering His Name and future.Nairaland is a one room we can cross path.forget it's a faceless forum.tueh this really bad.

Shikini money ke why don't you pay this client his money ?

skup008:
If my guess is right, that concept of flooring is decorative stamped concrete and for now it's the best option for outdoor flooring. Just avoid cheap and ogbonge installer/contractor and you won't regret.

You can count on me, because I am a decorative stamped concrete specialist.

Or check my signature.

Thanks.

How affordable is the stamped concrete vs interlocks..

Do you mind given us an example for a typical say 120sqm space how much would both cost?

Ibibioson:
True, I'm fairly new here. But I wonder why he was allowed to continue to scam people using this forum.
Anyway, he was arrested yesterday. He admitted that he used my money to take care of his father's burial. There's nothing in his account now, per his bank statement we obtained. I'll make sure he coughs the money.

So he was not kidnapped and was not in an isolation center, but his father died?

How are we sure that was even the case

But anyways, I keep saying it here time after time.. communication communication communication, why all the lies ?? Why not straight up tell the client, Oga mi, your job will be delayed for x amount of time.. there is a tragedy in the family and I am running around to tidy things.. everyone will understand ( for the most part)..

Speaking of using a client's money for burial, I am not saying don't bury the dead.. but this was his responsibility...

what if the client is trying to get this project done because his landlord pursued him from his house and he has no where to take his family for shelter? What if the client's parent's are in dire need of a shelter and the client robbed Peter to pay Paul or took a high interest loan to tidy up few things in the house so his family could have shelter and this HSLbroker guy as a "good son" uses this client money to bury his father??

I had a guy one time that told me ehn ehn.. he used my money to take care of the wife's hospital bills etc ( she just put to bed).. I was like, didn't you know your wife was pregnant I had to dig deep where I don't like to cough out the money and you are telling me you used it to take care of the wife's hospital bills

Please let's be considerate when we make these decisions, the other party have needs and problems they need to take care of too!!!

Our "19 year old" goal keeper

in the real world, the camera man will receive some accolades..

In Nigeria he is redeployed.. watch out.. he will lose his job soon..

Shameful!!!

Source??

Where's the audio and video?

Dennis3D:
Good morning all.
What do you think about this flooring as against interlock... Your reviews would be welcomed...

Ahn ahn nah.. why you go compare stamped concrete with interlock

Stamped concrete sure is way better than interlock.

I think the only deciding factor there is price..

Do you happen to have a rough estimate on how much a typical interlock costs vs stamped concrete for a project like the one in this 3D.?

Surprise Surprise

bablex:
Good afternoon nairalanders, please help me confirm if this quotation is too much for a four bedroom ensuite from foundation to roofing and plastering only

Engineer wants to drive Benz this Christmas

11 almost 12m for 4 bedroom? Not even with finishes..Haba nah

spyder880:
It could be made as an exterior door, the welders can add a metal sheet to the back without putting any glass or mirrors. In fact, they can paint the inner metal a different colour and the designed outer layer a different colour for contrast.

Ok, that makes sense.

Thanks.

saydfact:
GoodDay and its good to be back.

Let's go practical (as we always do) - calculating the number of tiles needed to tile various spaces within the building (floor and wall tiling).

We would make reference to our 3 bedroom plan, designed specifically for Nairaland lectures and calculate the tiles needed in the living room, one of the bedrooms and the master's toilet's floor and wall tiles.

www.nairaland.com/attachments/4619535_3bedrmsketch_jpeg4f34cd145ab26509501bebe01065e196

SELECTING TILES

1. Tiles come in various sizes, the common ones being 150x150, 200x200, 300x300, 150x300, 200x400, 300x600, 400x400 and 600x600; the first thing to do is pick a tile (based on clients choice or use) for each floor and wall. There is no rule stopping you from using any particular tile size for floor or wall, as long as it has the perfect surface finish for that use.

e.g, a glazed (slippery) tile is not appropriate in the bathroom, so if I find any non-slippery tile, irrespective of the size, I can use it for my wet floors. Wet floors include Bathroom, Swimming pool, Laundry, etc. (We've had buildings where 600x600 tiles were used on the wall and 150x150 tiles used on the floor) - in summary, the tile finish NOT the tile size determines where it is used.

2. Select tiles for each space. (Let's select ours too).
I'll go with the popular opinion; Living Room (600x600), Bedroom (400x400), Bathroom Floor (300x300) and Bathroom Wall (200x400).

Note:
* Glazed tiles cannot be used on wet floors - it's very slippery if the floor is wet and dangerous
* Un-Glazed, Matte, Rough tiles can be used on any surface (wet or dry)

3. Calculate the area of the spaces (floor and wall) separately - This uses the simple LxB (area of a rectangle principle) - and write it out.

Note:
* Remember to deduct door and window openings where applicable (e.g Area of wall = 10m2; area of window = 0.5m2 therefore area to be tiled = 10m2 - 0.5m2 = 9.5m2)
* After getting your area to be tiled, ADD 10% of quantity for waste & broken tiles. (e.g 9.5m2 + 10% of 9.5m2 >> 9.5 + 0.95 >> 10.45m2)

4. Calculate the Total area of Tiles you're picking; this varies from one manufacturer to the other and from one product size to the other. >> this means that while 400x400 tiles from SaydFact Ceramics contain 11 pcs, those of Teewhy2 Tiles Ltd might contain 13 pcs - It is, therefore, important to know how much pieces each pack of tiles you're buying contain.

5. Ascertain the total area of one pack of tiles (either by calculating or checking on the pack), use this figure to divide the total square area of the room to be tiled and the result gives you quantities needed - in simple terms >> (AREA OF LIVING ROOM / area of 1 pack of tiles) = Quantity of Tiles needed (remember to add 10% for waste).

LETS NOW GO PRACTICAL BY CALCULATING USING THE ATTACHED DRAWING (see pics below) and information in No2 above.

A. Master's Bedroom:

* From the diamond below; total floor area of Master's Rm is 13.20m2
* Lets agree that our 400x400 tiles contain 11 pieces; hence area of 1 pack in meters >> 0.4m x 0.4m x 11 pcs (400mm is same as 0.4m and area of 1 tile is 0.4 x 0.4, while the area of 1 pack is (Area of 1 tile x number of tiles in 1 pack)

1 PACK = 0.4 x 0.4 x 11 = 1.76m2

Number of tiles needed to complete Master's Rm floor = 13.20 (divided by) 1.76m2 = 13.20 / 1.76 = 7.5 packs

before we add for waste; let's calculate skirting for the Bedroom using 120mm as skirting height.

* The 1st question is how many skirting can we get from 1 tile?
Ans: Lenght of tiles / Height of skirting = 400 / 120 = 3 skirting from 1 tiles.

* What is the perimeter of the space needing skirting?
Ans: From the diagram, bedroom is 4150 by 3150 hence perimeter of room = 4150 + 4150 + 3150 + 3150 = 14600mm

* Deduct openings from the perimeter ie 2 doors (toilet and bedroom doors) where there won't be need for skirting >> 750+900 = 1650mm

* Length requiring skirting = 14600mm - 1650mm = 12950mm

* Numbers of Skirting needed = 12950 / 400 (lenght of 1 tile) = 33 pcs (approximate to the next whole nos)

* Number of Tiles needed to make requirement = 33 pcs / 3 (number of skirting gotten from 1 tile) = 11 pcs (11 tiles are needed for skirting)

* Number of packs needed for skirting = 11 pcs / 11 pcs (number in 1 pack) = 1 pack is needed.

TOTAL TILES NEEDED FOR MASTER'S BEDROOM:
7.5 PACKS (FLOOR) + 1 PACK (SKIRTING) = 8.5 PACKS.

ADD 10% FOR WASTE >> 8.5 Packs + 10% of 8.5 = 8.5+ 0.85 = 9.35 packs needed

HENCE BUY 10 PACKS (approximated to the next whole number because you can't buy half tiles)


B. Living Room: (Straight to Biz)

We're using 600x600 tiles and each pack contains 4 pcs; hence Area of 1 pack = 0.6x0.6x4 = 1.44m2
Area of Living Room (see diagram) = 22.02m2

* Number of Packs needed for Floor >> 22.02 / 1.44 = 15.2 packs

Skirting >> Perimeter of Living Room - (All Openings) = 12.2m or 12200mm

* Number of Skirting in 1 tiles >> 600 / 120 = 5 pcs (from 1 tiles)

* Number of skirting needed for Living Room = 12200 / 600 = 21 pcs

* Number of Tiles needed to meet requirements = 21 / 5 = 5 tiles

* Number of packs needed for skirting = 5 tiles / 4 pcs (number in 1 pack) = 1.25 pack is needed.

TOTAL TILES NEEDED FOR LIVING ROOM:
15.2 PACKS (FLOOR) + 1.25 PACK (SKIRTING) = 17 PACKS.

ADD 10% FOR WASTE >> 17 Packs + 10% of 17 = 17+ 1.7 = 18.7 packs needed

HENCE BUY 19 PACKS (approximated to the next whole number because you can't buy half tiles)


C. Bathroom Floor: (using 300mm by 300mm Tiles)

Area of Floor / Area of 1 pack of Tiles >> 3.26 / 1.35 (assuming nos in 1 pack = 15nos) = 2.4 packs

There's no skirting in Bathroom because we have wall tiles.

TOTAL TILES NEEDED FOR BATHROOM FLOOR = 2.4 + 10% of 2.4 = 3 PACKS


D. Bathroom Wall:

We're using 200x400 tiles and each pack contains 17 pcs; hence Area of 1 pack = 0.2x0.4x17 = 1.36m2

Let's also assume that we're tiling up-to 2.1m only i.e Window level (the alternative is to tile up-to 3m; i.e ceiling level)

* What is the perimeter of the space needing wall tiles?
Ans: From the diagram, bathroom is 2100 by 1500 hence perimeter of room = 2100 + 2100 + 1500 + 1500 = 7200mm = 7.2m

* Find total area to be tiled >> Perimeter x Height used >> 7.2m x 2.1m = 15.12m2

* Deduct Area of openings from the Area above i.e 1 door (2.1m x 0.75m) and 1 window (0.6m x 0.6m) >> (1.6m2 + 0.36m2) = 1.96m2

* Hence; Area to be tiled = 15.12m2 - 1.96m2 = 13.16m2

Now we revert to our earlier formulas i.e AREAS TO BE TILED / AREA OF 1 PACK = NUMBERS OF PACKS NEEDED

* 13.16m2 / 1.36m2 (area of 1 pack) = 9.7 packs = 10 packs (approximate to next whole number)

TOTAL TILES NEEDED FOR TOILET WALL: 10 PACKS

ADD 10% FOR WASTE >> 10 Packs + 10% of 10 = 10 + 1 = 11 packs needed

HENCE BUY 11 PACKS


Do the above for all space in the building; You can even prepare an excel file with the formulas so you won't need calculations each time; just input the area of floor and area of tiles and bingo.

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