₦airaland Forum

Every thing in Nigeria seems to be going in circles,  all we do is sit down and complaine , no practical solution is giving to many problems aroud us, we seem so confused and consumed with our many problems,
we can't even tell  if we hope to still exist as one entity in the next ten years,  we are not even making any effort to help issues, all we do everyday is just ,wake up,eat,drink,talk,play, sex, club, pray and sleep, we seem so relaxed and coping with our situations, no single sign of positive changes is taking place, no genuine plan of action to bring us back on track , atimes we are even too proud of our selves and our failed nation, we refused to see our selves the way others sees us ,we are just lust,

What is realy the problem of this country ,where are we heading to ?

OneNaija:
I have Notice something about Nigerians they always depending on God Intervention. Abeg Leave God Jare.Fight for yourself.Manner nur dey fall from Heaven.If you want to safe this Country.You need to fight hard.Stop saying All we can do is sit down and hope in God. I nur like that word anyone who go Yarn that level.E head nur correct. I dey yarn am with pidgin english and normal english make you understand me well.

Truely, this God stuff is the highest draw back in our society, Nigeria would have made a better society in the absence of religion.

mactao:
To start with, do you know what a sin is?
1. Hardly qualifies as a sin (which is putting it lightly).
2. Prove that it's a lie.
3. Prove it.
4. If I know politics, I might as well know the amount of hairs on my head, so I don't know anything about this.
5. You're dumb. Very very dumb. Extremely dumb.
6. Give us precise stuff, not (sic)ambiguise statement. (I think that's meant to be ambiguous statements).
7. I know nothing about this either.

I hadly have time for fools, but since you are not upto fourty, let me see if i can help you.

A sin is an evil or wrong done against a fellow man or God.

1, What else could be more sinfull that obstructing people's freedom of movement just because Pastor Adeboye wants to make money from his gulible followers, ( you saying that it doesnt qualify as a sin shows how wicked and carlos you and the entire RCCG are)
2, Can you reply a thread in nairaland without login in your ID, if you can, then pastor Adeboye once drove 300 miles on spiritual fuel, but if you can't, then you are the most stupid person on earth to believe such false story .
3, does pastor Adeboye have other mega source of income than his poor RCCG members ?
4, You should have first learned politics before opening your dirty mouth.
5, I am not, i am smarter than criminal pastor Adeboye, that is how i see beyond the dubious man's exterior, i no very well the game he was upto, i even do that myself atimes.
6, Thanks for the correction, i appreciate it so much, it was just typo error on my side, thanks once again.
7, Big sorry , you have been out of touch with current trend, next time learn much about whatever you are defending so you can defend it well.

mactao:
Goes further to prove how unreal you are. You can give someone 4.8 billion and they'd be back to square one again. Do you know anything about getting rich and staying rich? Why do we plan programs on training people in rural areas to farm and sew and all that? Why not just give them money?

BECAUSE THEY NEED TO BE ABLE TO SUSTAIN THEMSELVES. GIVING SOMEONE MONEY DOESN'T SOLVE POVERTY!

Exactly.

You are the most stupid, useless and senseless person i have ever met in my life, what about using the money to build free medical centers, skills acquisation centers, free education centers, what about investing the money into agriculture and use the produce to help the poor, what about investing the money in human capital developments, do you know how many hopless persons that money could have helped elevated their lives ? how many foreign education schorlarship the money could have afforded ? He ( Criminal Adeboye) preaches helping the needy, does using the billions he enmarsed from the needies to acquire private jet help the neddies in any way. do you think JESUS CHRIST could have done the same thing ( during this time of dire economic crisis)

If it was a state governor that used the billions of his state fund to acquire a private jet, you could have spoken bad agaisnt it, now it touches your pastor and it is no longer wrong,

May God help Nigeria.

oloriooko:
@ poster.
You really marvel me?!
If a man like Pastor Chris can be so smart to learn these "tricks" that has drawn so much attention, don't you think you should sit down and think about your own life rather than reporting about other people's life?
The guy is smart and you are dumb - its very simple.
Stop talking down on people who are making things happen rather keep if you do not know how they do what they do!
I like the guy cos he's been making progress ever since PFN turned its search light on him.
If you do not like him then leave him alone!
Na by force?

Am i the person to leave him alone or is he the one to leave Nigerian media alone?, he appears on TV to show me what he does and i come online to say what i understood, he is not smart at all, if he was smart, no one could predict him, unpredictability is the ultimate smartness. do you get that little dude ?

PurestBoy:
Hey prophet Banon, when are we having our war? To hell with any nairalanders that beg you to stop, I dey kampe for you anytime anyway as long as my starcomm is connected

Hmm , Inyanga don they rest, u dey find him wahala, you may think it will be easy, anam agbagi nkiti makana ibu nwa nnem , ichotakwam okwu ozo ogahi adikwa funny. warning ikpeazu.

Bastage:
It's a stupid question. I wouldn't even call it a double edged sword.

The answer is 1.

2 ends up in murder. It doesn't matter wether they are Muslims or not - murder is forbidden.
The 1st option does not see you as a fake Christian - it shows you as a real Christian.

Is lie not also part of the 10 commandments ? is it not forbidin as well ?

@poster dont call someone dirty taxi man, that is rude and foolishness on your path, he simply admired your beauty which is normal and natural , You nver can tell, a taxi driver today can become someone unreachable for you 2morrow, Former Governor Sam Egwu of Ebonyi state once drove taxi, his wife once sold ice fish, i
f Gov Egwu looks at you today, will you be happy or sad ?

I am just curious, i see the way this pastors talk about coming to share the word of God with them in their churches and i started wondering if there is something so special in going to worship in their churches,
they talk about it as if if you dont come you are missing so much,

I just want to ask, If bible (the word of God) is Money, will pastors be sharing it  every sunday to their congregation ?.

Igbos are realy great people with high intelligence and talents, an Igbo guy just made great invention in UNN and now another igbo person in such a high profile scholarship.

Unu di kwa too much.

nate120:
The ritual money is temporary, You may be destined to live on earth for another 40yrs, Rituals turns it into 3-5yrs and the children still get the wrath, But what God giveth is forever till you die, God gives you wealth at the right time, His promises to you SHALL surely come to past. What God wants from you is for you to seek his kingdom and get servation first, everything other thing you need shall be added, And dont forget to seek for WISDOM. the greatest to live a wonderful and godly live.

All you have said goes to show how inexpoxed, little minded and worst of it all how deluded you are, you mention occultic powers like you know much about it,
Now let me make you understand somethings dude,

many of your so called pastors and miracle workers are occultic,

almost all the politicians you hear or see around the world belong to one form of cult or the other and most of them live a well fulfilled life,

Most churches you see are nothing but cult,

Finally, a church is a cult you accept and a cult is a church you reject.

do you now get the picture ?

huxley:
There is a school of belief within Christiandom that holds the view that Jesus dispensed with ALL the commandments of the old testament (OT) and replaced it with one single principal law, namely, the injunction to love your neighbour as yourself. Let us, arguendo, concent with this view, if only to put this principle through its paces.

Supposing you live in a country where there is habitual civil unrest, say Nigeria. And that you are a Christian living in a region in Nigeria of mixed Christian and Muslim population. And that you have good relations with your muslim neighbours and are friendly with them. During one of these episode of civil unrest, a "christian" mob are look for muslims to lynch and kill. Your muslim neighbours are hiding in a place known only to you.

The "Christian" mob approach you asking for the whereabouts of your neighbours. What would you do?

1) Because you love you neighbours, are you going to tell a lie to the mob, thus saving their lives?

2) Tell the truth and reveal their hiding place, thus guaranteeing the certain death of you neighbours?

@ Huxley,
You just set a double edged trap for nairaland christians,

Accept the first option and you will be seeing as a fake christian who can not stand on the word of God in time of trouble, or
Accept the second one and you will be seeing as a christian murderer who kills his neighbours because of his religious belief.

Oya over to you nairaland christians.

PurestBoy:
Banon, I've known you since the first day you registered on NL that you're a confirmed and conc madman, you really have issue and better start thinking because your life is becoming more miserable day by day

@ Impurest boy.
You have started again, you always like to start insulting me every time, when i will start mine nairalanders will be begging to stop, Any way i see you are about leaving for America, safe journey but leave obama's daughters alone.
and most importantly, dont carry marijuana while going or else you will be arrested.

tubonimi:
Is it his fault that some of his members cant pay school fees? Jesus said the POOR you will ALWAYS have with you. So bro! Scriptures MUST be fulfiled

The 4.8 Billion naira he used to acquire his private jet, can eliminate poverty forever in lives of 20% of his church members, or isn't so ?.

huxley:
Are you a single man of marrying age, but despair at the paucity of eligible virgins to marry? Or are you a woman virgin looking for marriage but despair at the high divorce rates in the society? Well, despair no longer. For God foresaw your situation thousands of years ago and prescribed a solution for such a problem in His Holy book, the bible. Turn your bibles to Deut 22: 28,

If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, 29 he shall pay the girl's father fifty shekels of silver. He must marry the girl, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives.



Now to guarantee that this method would work for you, you have to arrange for the following:

1) Your prospective wife, who is a virgin, is not already engage to someone else. It does not matter whether she like/loves you.

2) That the raping of your prospective wife is discovered

3) That you have fifty shekels of silver to pay your prospective father-in-law.


That is the foolproof recipe for marrying a virgin of your choice whether she like it or not. One of the other advantages of this approach is that it would cut down on the high divorce rates we see in today's society. In fact, the Christian divorce rates (circa 30%) is much higher than other groups and failure to follow this biblical guidelines maybe partly responsible for such a high divorce rate. So, I have got this message for the Christian virgin looking for a long term marriage without divorce in the biblical way:

If you find yourself being raped by a Christian brother (or anyone for that matter) do not resist the rape. Shout as loud as you can to raise an alert, then introduce the rapist to your father. At which point your father will do all the rest for your beautiful and loving marriage.

@ Huxley,
1, can i RAPE three virgins with 150 shekels of silver ?
2, Will my prospective father inlaw give me discount? ( sinse i am raping three).
3, What if after raping , i found out that the girls are not virgins ? will my prospective father in law compensate me for disappointment ?

jify:
while it is true that there are many fake pastors who claim to be sent by God. let us be careful about what we say. God is the ultimate judge and He will expose any so-called man of God duping well meaning Nigerians

Will GOD come down from heaven to expose them ?, all God can do for you is to give you wisdom and intelligence to see beyond what people shows you .

blissieng:
Truth is Christianity, Religion is Faith, It is hope. It's not something you can see or touch. For those of you that keep asking 'Show me', 'Help me understand' etc,

You either believe it and enjoy its benefit or you dont - I pray you get there.

If you don't believe it because it works for other peopl, more's the pity. As they say, You cant argue wiv a 'mad' man.

Life is a play and we have a judge(GOD), If you dont act well it's to everyone his/her own detriment. We'll know how far at the end of the day.

It is wise however to bite ur tongue, words are non retrievable.

That is exactly our point, if it is something we cant see or touch, then why are you people always coming to TV to show us ?

manmustwac:
What do u mean by daft? And why didn't u answer my question? Just like it says on his BC that he was born male. why dosen.t it say that he was ordained from birth to fool the masses with his fake healing tricks?

What he means by daft is that you refused to be brainwashed by fake miracles, just agree that it was real and you will become a faithful believer ,

Do your best not to waste time and energy arguing with fools who think they are fooling the masses, i pity Nigeria.

thisnigga:
what the f**k is wrong wif sum bloaady haterz, ? how the F*^k could you utter such arrant nonsense you pussilanimous biatch! damn. i hate you!.not that im religious or sumf. .but then nigga, you are just plain stupid! men, that was low, bloody hater!

Sorry are you alright ?

i am one of those people who refused to agree that Oyakhilomi could boldly come on TV and arrange a fake miracle all in an attempt to gain fame and furtune. but with my recent observation, i now thing otherwise,

I found out from christ emabssy march 2009 Rhapsody of realities center coloured pages, that little children were showed to have been healed of various sicknesses, but a more intelligent look and reasoning i took realy revealed to me the idea behind showing the picture of yound children.

The truth is that Pastor Oyakhilomi and his stage miracle planners decided to use little children so that all the people in doubt of the genuines of his miracles will be conviced that they were real, after all who could believe that little children can possible play along such con, he mostly used them because all eyes are now on him about his miracles, after watching little children used, a little minded person will believe a child cant realy paly such con.

If any one thinks i am wrong, the person should tell me why it is now that he is beeimg suspected that he is now showing us little children ?

1,Blocking of Lagos/Ibadan exprex way every month.
2,Lied that he once drove 300 miles without fuel.
3, used poor peoples money to acquire private jet worth over 4billion naira ( during the time of dire economic crisis)
4, Was used by Former president Obasanjo to cleverly gain public moral ground ( political used as a cover for many evil).
5, sutble use of religion  to promote yoruba culture ( by intentional use of cleverly feigned yoruba accent to preach on TV)
6, Making of ambiguous statement in the name of prophecy .
7, Finally lied to the public about the ownership of his dubiously acquired air craft,( after seeing the resentments he got from the public over the dubiously acquired air craft).

COULD THIS MAN REALY BE A MAN OF GOD ?

since churches are not making any concrete contributions to our society like building free educational centers, free skill acquisation center, free medical center Etc. wont it be wise if government demand that they should start paying tax ?

BREEZE DON BLOW WE DON DEY SEE CHICKEN NYASH,

If Pastor Adeboye did not use the money he extorted from his gullible congragations to purchase jet, may be pastor Ajayi would have borrowed some and send his contracted wive abroad,

This goes to show that what RCCG and their 419[/b]pastors are after is money, after [b]sexing and extorting that innocent girl, he couldn't fulfil his false promise, ( offcourse he new from the begining that he never intended to take the girl to any abroad), Now another maradona criminal pastor has taken over, forgeting that this is pure adultry,

My advice is, ALL YOU NIGERIAN PASTORS, PLEASE REPENT AND TRUELY GIVE YOUR LIVES TO CHRIST, STOP EXTORTING THE PUBLIC AND USING THEIR MONEY TO BUY JET, STOP FALSE PREPHECY, STOP BLOCKING THE LAGOS IBADAN EXPRESS WAY,STOP STAGE MANAGED MIRACLES AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, STOP SNATCHING YOUR COLLEUGES WIVES AND MISTRESSES.

AMEN ?

chidichris:
banom,
if there is anything we need now, it is mourning. we shld be mourning our country in the hands of high way robbers. we shld be paying our ways out of pdp's caves. we shld be asking questions on where we went wrong.
what is worth celebrating in a country where hunger is 90% problem of her citizens. a country in darkness. if we must celebrate, it must be strictly on the terms of fela who call it suffering and smiling.

Ilelobola:
Is it really better? I wasn’t around in the 60s but from my juvenile experience of the 80s, we used to-

•Have treats like Nasco wafers & co plus soft drinks and yoghurt etc in the evenings between lunch and dinner- they are too expensive for the average family and are occasional treats now.
•Visit amusement parks and museums- where are they now?
•I knew the colours on traffic lights and what they meant- my cousin born in 1996 did not know what the lights meant until she came to London to visit and saw it; now it’s back in Lagos of course
•Have a decent level of education in public schools (I went to one for a while when Jakande introduced some ridiculous rules about requirements for going on to Secondary school) and was not at a disadvantage when I returned to a private school afterwards. Most public school educated children of these days might as well be illiterates and I am speaking from experience with our nanny and others who have had to start basic literacy and numeracy all over again after SS3 in Nigeria.
•Have water from a lousy government tap at home though not always- the tap hasn’t dripped water since 1994 though the bills still come

There’s probably something to celebrate like mobile phones but on the flip side, what’s happened with all landline phones? Ours hasn’t worked in ages! The pessimist in me appears to be stronger today. Hopefully tomorrow, I will have something to celebrate about my country as I want to go back home.

blacksta:
@banon


Are sure your name is not Dora ( what a heap of rubbish).

No one should get me wrong, i am not saying that we are any way close to our expectation, all i am saying is that , with all the negative confrontations we have had and our obvious incompatible religious and cultural settings, we still dey carry go , isn't that great ?

Fhemmmy:
I will like to know what has improved and what we are actually celebrating.

We should atleast celebrate the fact that we are better than the way we were in 60s.
or are we not ?

asha 80:
Heap of rubbish.

asho 80, how ? is it only the bad things that we should be complaining about every time, is there not something good about us ? do you think the level we have reached today was an easy task ? believe it you leave it, many countries would have broken up if they passed through what we passed through.

ode remo:
like what ?

Litracy level, civilisation, population,understanding, E.T.C.

In honest, it is not easy, Nigeria as our country was left in our hands to manage in the year 1960 from Britain our colonial master, Just seven years after our independence, we had a civil war which lasted almost 3years, after that, many cases of bad things keep happening, other nations wish us ill, pray for our down fall and break up, yet we are still moving, alot of things that could have crippled us have come , some solved, others we are coping with, yet we are still moving, by religion, ethnicity and diverse cultures we are apparently incompatible yet we are still moving, Corruption, bad government, poverty, hardship, hatred, tribalism, nepotism, ilitracy and other negative things have been treathening  our unity and peaceful co-existence, Yet we are still moving,

When our colonial masters left us about 49 years ago, we were few in number, poor,most uneducated, most of our present cities today, as of then, were timid villages, but today things have greatly improved, As of our colonial time, most Nigerian have not crossed the shoes of their various villages, but today, many Nigerians have travelled, setled and even acquired the citizenshipof other countries, some nigerian abroad have contributed greatly to other nations,In the world, we have contributed tremendously to various human endevoures like sports, education, Religion and Science and Technology, E.T.C.

When i flash back and look at when, how and  where we are coming from, i can confidently say that we are doing well, Truely God is good to our country, is not just all about where we expected to have reached but how far we have gone still counts,

God bless NIGERIA.

Personaly i do nat fancy saying personal things about me in a public forum like this, but if i must say what money means to me, i will tell you that to me, money means everything ,just next to all, i can compromise anything for cash and i dont realy care, that is just what money means to me.

[quote author=n_o_e_t_ic link=topic=264762.msg3767711#msg3767711 date=1240431512]any evidence to buttress this?[/quote]You sound very funny to me, For 8yrs in power, Obasanjo an obvious devilish and occultic man was in a big secrete and public romance with your CRIMINAL PSTOR ADEBOYE.

odemo:
a post was placed on www.news.onlinenigeria.com/templates/?a=1841&z=17 quoting satguru maharajji saying pastor Enoch Adeboye of the redeemed christian church is his spiritual son.

So without being told, you dont know that Adeboye is an occultic man.