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ikeyman00:
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dnt know about you lots if u ask me what i think, i will say emm this is [size=14pt]Golden Brown[/size] in the making

completely lack cutting edge in thinking, immatue and deliberately ignoring the mandate and the plight and welfare of Nigerian

at the era most sensible country are cutting spending; u have the US eager to get lost in Iraq, u have UK cancelling contact to build nuclear sub-arine carrier etc

this is what u get in spite of the fact slowpoke Obj cancelled out all that lethal debt ehhh menhhhhhhhhhhh f uck all
these b astard are taking us for a ride; what da f uck u call this ehhh
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Someone, please remember to put double locks on the cage.

[quote author=sd-6 link=topic=497343.msg6575117#msg6575117 date=1281829133]Beaf thats because u went at poster without makin your point. Gej has been drained into conscienceless politickin. The fight against corruption has become a charade. Misplaced priorities in the form of shameless profligacy. Unprecedented civil insecurity and political indecision.[/quote]No, you guys are just an emotional lot. All you've done above is recite the IBB mantra without providing a single example to butress your claims. It almost seems that you don't actually believe the message you are desperately trying to bludgeon into NLers. They say, when people who want to rope in an innocent man cannot find any crime to hold unto, they reach for the nearest big stick. Its the way it looks.

The only genuine anti-Joe person on this page is Ikeman00, but then after donkey years in the UK, he still somehow lacks the grasp not to refer to the ex-Prime Minister as "Golden Brown!" Who the heck is that?

. . .Desperation.

GEJ and Obama.
The first act in resurrecting our Global standing.

ajoguegbe:
Are you doubting their claims. Well the purpose of this thread is not to generate a debate but to learn a lesson from how promises are made and fulfilled. though its an old post.the lessons are still fresh

Yes o! I doubt the claim wella!
I get your point, but that bit was just too juicy for me to avoid sinking my gnashers in.
I think its the wrong example to use, because its almost certain that man does not yet have the technology to go the Moon, therefore nobody is doing it or even pretending that they can do it; because in this day and age, any faker will be caught pants down.

. . .Did I do it again?

[quote author=Okija_juju link=topic=495145.msg6574927#msg6574927 date=1281826373]And you do realise that it is impossible for all humans to evacuate earth now or in the future. This is home, this is where we were meant to be and this is where we will always be.[/quote]Dat one na true!
I don't agree with Stephen Hawking either, humans leaving Earth is quite extreme. Anyways, its even debatable if man ever landed on the Moon, talkless of rocketing off to Mars or wherever.

[quote author=sd-6 link=topic=497343.msg6574872#msg6574872 date=1281825871]@beaf
have u made any point urself? Jst saying hw emotional poster is isn't enough to prove a point. If u think GEJ has performed, tell us how and what he has done and stop babbling.[/quote]What if I turned your question right back at you? Have you made any point sd-6 or are just blabbing? Cos I can't see the contribution you've made.
Rubbish.

Vice President Namadi Sambo.

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Jonathan and the late President Yar Adua (may his gentle soul rest in peace).

doyin13:
Stlll too early to judge him. . .

Nigeria's problem aren't the intangibles
that look best on paper.

Very true.

[size=14pt]President clocks 100 days in office[/size]
From JULIANA TAIWO, Abuja
Sunday, August 15, 2010

President Goodluck Jonathan. on Friday, marked 100 days in office, but it went unnoticed without fanfare unlike state governors are wont to do.
The President was sworn in on May 6 this year, a day after President Umaru Yar’Adua was pronounced dead.

Some of the notable things Jonathan has done in the last 100 days include measures to guarantee free and fair elections in 2011 such as the appointment of a credible chairman and national electoral commissioners for the Independent National Electoral Commission as well as ensuring that funds are made available for a new voters register; action to fulfill the promise of regular power supply to Nigerians through the Presidential Task Force on Power headed by a sector specialist, Prof. Barth Nnaji; and restoring normalcy to the downstream sector of Nigeria’s oil sector and ending of the queues at fuel stations across the country.

Other achievements are consolidating Nigeria’s banking sector reforms and strengthening its financial sector through the establishment of the Assets Management Company of Nigeria; forging a consensus among the three tiers of government for the creation of a Sovereign Wealth Fund that will facilitate sustainable economic growth and development; and raising $5.2 billion from the International Development Association to finance the provision of critical infrastructure.

To keep the economy on an even keel, President Jonathan also realigned the 2010 national budget with current financial realities by working with the National Assembly to adjust expenditure levels; disbursing N130 billion to commercial banks for the refinancing of loans granted to small and medium scale enterprises; sustaining the disbursement of the N200 Billion Agricultural Development Fund; and maintaining peace in the Niger Delta through implementation of the re-orientation and rehabilitation programme for former militants, among other actions.

On the global stage, the administration has repositioned Nigeria to reassume its leadership role in African affairs and its rightful place as a major player in the comity of nations. Jonathan currently chairs the Economic Community of West African States (ECOWAS) and the Group of Eight Developing Nations.
The country also held the Presidency of the United Nations Security Council for July 2010.

http://www.sunnewsonline.com/webpages/news/national/2010/aug/15/national-15-08-2010-012.htm

wise son:
@komando: Perhaps you are referring to my stating that he is winning the political battle for his candidacy - by this I mean that at the party level, the obstacles, which would have prevented him from running on the platform of PDP are seemingly being cleared. However among the wider generality of Nigerians, he is losing appeal. Getting the nomination of PDP, does not mean that people see him as fit to be president. More and more Nigerians are getting the feeling that he is not capable of leading Nigeria purposefully - that his what I mean by his approval rating is dropping.

Talking all this emotional stuff doesn't cut it. Jonathan has been President for three months and an incredible amount has occured in those three months; mose people are balanced enough not to make extreme judgements in three short months, but hey! If all one can deduce from your writeup is a stream of emotional strings, then you might really be appealing to tribalists and sectionalists, rather than the balanced majority who know that a mere three months is quite a bit too short for some of the words you have chosen.

Lets calm down and take a deep breath and approach matters in a rational way.

Sorry, post deleted.

The Deputy Speaker, Usman Nafada, said the consideration will now be carried out on a “suitable date”, two days after the Senate also voted to debate the legislation on a further date.

What is so wrong about voting in money laundering laws. Our lawmakers are the highest paid in the World and most are the worst breed of human it is possible to find.

Date Published: 08/13/10
[size=14pt]Reps Block Jonathan's Anti-Money Laundering Bill[/size]

In a curious move and a speculated attempt to encourage graft among its members, The House of Representatives today indefinitely suspended consideration on the anti-money laundering bill. The bill Was sponsored by President Goodluck Jonathan

The part of the bill that gives both the senate and the House serious worry is the section that requires individuals doing deals above N5 million with banks, to report such to the Nigeria Financial Intelligence Unit (NFIU). It requires corporate entities to report transactions above N10 million.

The House made attempts to discuss the bill, which is fashioned after the international framework against corruption, but dumped it when members sought to limit some of its provisions.

The bill, which had gone through two readings and committee considerations, awaits a final plenary approval and third and final passage.

The Deputy Speaker, Usman Nafada, said the consideration will now be carried out on a “suitable date”, two days after the Senate also voted to debate the legislation on a further date.

The lawmakers’ decision came after receiving a fresh communication from Mr Jonathan, advising them against tampering with certain provisions of the proposal, and for a speedy delivery of the two bills which had already failed to meet an earlier June 30, 2010, deadline.

He said the Financial Action Task Force (FATF) requires all member-states to model their domestic legislation in consonance with global best practices. Mr Jonathan said another meeting of the international body in September 2010, would welcome the delivery of the bill.

http://www.pointblanknews.com/News/os3764.html

American and Russian Illuminati.

African Illuminati.

North Korean Illuminati.

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GenBuhari:
Beaf,
I have never disagreed with any comment you have made until now!

What is your evidence that Buhari is a criminal?

I am afraid I one of those that believe he is holy.

It was difficult for me to come to that conclusion as well, but aside from his government being involved in the transportation of 53 suitcases of Naira (at the time, it was 85 cents to 1 Naira), Buhari was also involved in very stratospheric scandals as Minister For Petroleum and Natural Resources, Chairman of the NNPC and Chairman of the Petroleum Trust Fund (PTF). At the Petroleum Trust Fund, he was directly involved in the scandal of N2.8 billion missing in oil money.

[size=14pt]From the mouth of his best friends wife (IBB killed him)[/size]
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHREK7gf6UU?fs=1&hl=en_GB[/flash]
[size=14pt]What does IBB stand for?[/size]

gadogado:
As much as id like to believe you, i think what they found baffling was that blacks had attained that level of metallurgic sophistication. Not because Benin or Ife had better technology. Thats just not true, Europeans were way ahead of us in a general sense. your argument is a fallacy actually since you're implying that skill in bronze casting etc translates to the same level of general technological advancement which is not true. Your inductive line of reasoning is flawed. Fact is they had guns and were able to colonize us. They were by far more advanced.

Its not hard to find out if you mean to. So I'll not join the argument. Just go find out from your own history first, then check if any Europeans were casting copper at the time. It is left to you to deny without even checking, but hey! I'm cool.

For me, the argument stops here, I don't want to be depressed.

kcjazz:
I quite agree with some of his assertions, what really has Jonathan achieved as a governor or vp? I was beginning to give him a chance but the presidential jet issue clearly shows he is one of the boys. Problem is who is better? IBB is a no go, by the way his YouTube video is a joke lol. My anger is with the opposition, they are so useless.

you agree with some of what a very frankly racist article has said?
Like what? It will be interesting to know.

The presidential jets were in the budget. So lets stop this holy pretence. If you don't like Jonathan for any reason (including tribalism), its a free World, nobody biting anyone. . . But when you come out in public, be sure you are talking sense, not glib recitals of the same old hateful Daily Trust style rubbish.

[quote author=kola_yusuf link=topic=497286.msg6573918#msg6573918 date=1281814346]Personally, I don't give a hoot about IBB, but Nigerians need to put Jonathan under the microscope. Forget all the words that are dripping from his Facebook Page. By deed and action (not words), can someone please tell me what we can say this man stands for? Personally I am a loss to say. The giddy euphoria surrounding his emergence has beclouded the objectivity of too many people. How he rates as the best man for the job (is anyone even asking this question) going by his antecedents and his actions beats me.

Never mind Daily Trust Is'haq Kawu has raised an important question. Besides inquiring into the ideology of GEJ is not tantamount to saying IBB should be president.

[size=14pt]What does he stand for? Is he the best man for the job?[/size][/quote][size=33pt]What does IBB stand for?[/size]

Last week, the Senate dissolved its Communications Committee. This followed revelations that the Committee chairman Senator Sylvester Anyanwu, had forged the signatures of committee members and security report used to clear the new candidate for EVC of NCC, Eugene Juwah. Curiously the candidate was still cleared despite the forgery! Those who hurriedly cleared Eugene Juwah to become EVC knew that he was one of those who took MTS Wireless to the mortuary; a record they don’t want interrogated! In truth, NCC is a house of absurdities! [size=14pt]ONLY IBO people have EVER been chief executives of NCC since inception in 1992: Ogbonnaya Iromantu, Emmanuel Nnnana, Mrs. Tina Nwachukwu, Ernest Ndukwe and now Juwah! The dirty manoeuvrings which led to Eugene Juwah’s emergence[/size] reached the highest levels of the presidency. One of the reasons for the desperacy is the 2011 elections. NCC is expected to funnel funds into the PDP’s campaign and Jonathan’s; it is therefore important to ensure that the “proper” candidate heads NCC. There is also the “small matter” of [size=14pt]keeping NCC under control of the “anointed” ethnic group[/size]. That was why Bashir Gwandu was not given a look-in despite his eminent qualification for the job: [size=14pt]he is not from the “owner ethnic group” of the NCC![/size]

Did I not say Daily Trust was worse than Hitler? Can anyone imagine a national newspaper being so pathologically tribalistic? Where is Gbawe to come and defend his favourite paper?

Story by Is'haq Modibbo Kawu
Newspaper - Daily Trust; the most tribalistic and Southerner hating newspaper that can be imagined. It is safer to read Hitlers works than to even peek at Daily Trust. It is a blood thirsty paper for almajiri's.

All these PDP so called "Northerners" that want to rule by force. Frustration is killing them, thats why they come out with these foolish articles.
[size=33pt]IBB will never rule this country.[/size]

gadogado:
So the over flogged argument that Europeans stole and pillaged the African continent is baseless in this esteemed economist's view. DO you think Africans gained or lost from contact with Europeans

At the time the Portuguese came to West Africa, there was no difference in technological advancement. The Europeans of the time were especially baffled by West African technologies; a great example is our brand of cire perdue (lost-wax casting); a casting technique that overshadowed anything similar in Europe of that period; they were baffled by the fact that both the Edo and Ife peoples could cast copper to incredible detail and thinness of cross section. It was an impossibility in Europe of the time; copper is a metal a very reactive metal is almost impossible to cast, talkless of the fine achievements of Benin and Ife. Today, we have no such technological edge in any field.

Did we lose from contact with Europeans? . . .The answer is quite glaring.
Slavery and negative contact with Europeans are the main factors in our past that have contributed todays low self esteem, poverty and under-development.

Most thieves don't get to steal in 9ja and faint in Dubai; he's still having a good time, so I suggest the doctor amutates one of his limbs for starters.

I embedded the vid.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-fTYCCbXZ4?fs=1&hl=en_US[/flash]

Bumped from 2006 - 2007 and now to 2010!

Its funny that some people think Buhari is holy. He is a criminal.

tunfeek:
hw about gen buhari and tunde idiagbon regime which is only honest govt in nigeria or chief m k o and kingibe that is only free and fair election in the country.what matters is the individuals that have welfare the common man at heart

Buhari and Idiagbon had an honest govt?
What about their government giving clearance to ship out 54 suitcases of raw dosh to be flown out of the country?

Hi,

I'll try my best.

It was way back in the day. Buhari was the Head of State, his sidekick was the military hardliner Tunde Idiagabon. The govt decided to change the currency, I can't really remember the reason why, maybe to revamp the economy. Ialso think they wanted to force the politicains they had deposed to come back with their stolen loot (I may be wrong about this, all of this happened circa 1984). Anyways, I definitely know that the Naira was trading at N1.50 to the £1, and 85cents to the dollar. (Yes, this was the exchge rate in those days!!!! If you can lay your hands on a copy of Punch, Daily Times or Punch newspapers from 1985, you can check these factsout for yourself).

As part of the currency conversion excercise nobody was allowed to take any money outside Nigeria's borders. Lo and behold it was reported that the Emir of Gwandu successfully smuggled out 53 suitcases of naira notes, presumably to change into foreign currency abroad before it becomes worthless.

The press and social critics raised a lot of dust about this, but nothing concrete was done about it. Nevetheless, the credibility of the Buhari regime suffered terribly as a result of this.

I think he took the suiotcases to the airport, but the customs officer on duty, a certain Alhaji Abubakar Atiku wanted it confiscated and reported to the military govt. However, the Emir came to the airport with some army officers, I think two Colonels who insisted that the Emir must fly out with his Naira laden luggage. In case you were wondering, yes, the customs boss in question is no other than Alhaji Atiku, the current VP.

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-27368.0.html#msg722371

What about the staggering corruption Buhari presided over at various commanding positions in the petroleum industry and Niger Delta? Abeg, the man is a criminal jare!

Whether Americans went to the Moon is quite debatable. What is certain though, is that "Moon landing technology" has been lost, so nobody, even in this high tech age is venturing out to the Moon; not the Russian, not the Chinese and not the Americans.

---Scratches head---
Hmmmmmm!!!!

OP, please stop quoting Moon landings as an achievement, its pure tosh.

[quote author=what.lyf link=topic=496962.msg6572259#msg6572259 date=1281787789]Lets work together without abusing each other, those who steal our money do enough of that already

Thank you my brother. What we actually need is working together, We really need to evaluate on how we can change nigeria in our own individual way, I for one do not believe that any of these opportunists parading themselves as politicians,leaders, elder statesmen etc can change Nigeria positive, What i believe is that with our own individual efforts, together we can collectively bring out the greatness of our own beloved country-Nigeria!! God Bless Nigeria, Amen[/quote]The problem with the bolded is that it is chasing wind; its like a puppy chasing its own tail, going round in circles, but never quite catching the tail. Nigeria's problem is structural, until we address that head on, we will keep running in place. We practice a unitary government, but choose to decieve ourselves that we are practicing federalism. Unitary govts are ownly suited to small countries (which 9ja is very far from being).

Every month, governors troop to Abuja to beg for their states monthly upkeep, making them accountable to Abuja, rather than their people. To make matters worse, they get into power by the rigging arrangement from Abuja, so their people might live or die, its never going to affect a governors prospects in any way. For them, life always goes on and they will never give a damn. The legislature on the other hand, is by far the highest paid in the World, Dimeji Bankole gets a billion Naira in allowances, salary and other pecks; they are the highest paid as a form of bribery, all they need do is keep bad laws flowing and never block the corruption conduit to the pockets of the big cheeses.

Our politics naturally only interests the more criminally minded in society, it is like flies and rotten meat. . . Corruption is merely a side effect of Nigeria's flawed structure, indeed the structure was built by our ex-general political hegemons for the sole purpose of continuing to reap corrupt lucre long after leaving office. IBB is fighting a desperate do or die battle, because he see's the danger of that pipe being closed in the near future.

The only thing that can save Nigeria is true federalism from which equity, representation and justice will flow. No functioning democracy has anything resembling the faulty shambles we call a federation. If you build on a shaky foundation, the house is bound to collapse. . . Nigeria's foundation is very shaky.

Cancel the church.

[quote author=what.lyf link=topic=496962.msg6572146#msg6572146 date=1281786040]so it is sane for someone to term nigeria "a foolish country" and the populace "a dullard", calling nigeria theses names is indirectly calling "every citizens(which includes me) of Nigeria foolish and dullards! i will neva for once accept any insult on the name "Nigeria" by anyone irrespective of our current predicament! Besides, whoever feel he/she cannot live in Nigeria can leave the country and live in peace elsewhere, but any insult is a big NO!![/quote]He wasn't abusing everybody as I understand it, rather he was talking about our poor leaders and their sycophants. It isn't hidden that Nigeria's problems stem from bad leadership. So, please calm down and understand where people are coming from before hauling words.

A lot of people feel bitterness about Nigeria and it is not misplaced, it could be bitterness about corruption, bitterness about lack of development, bitterness about their selfless efforts to help the country being spat on; worse than any of the above, it could be bitterness from being actively marginalised.
Lets work together without abusing each other, those who steal our money do enough of that already.

[quote author=what.lyf link=topic=496962.msg6572006#msg6572006 date=1281784020]your mama fooliish, your papa dullard and your family imbecila 4 abusing nigeria, ppl like u na dey block d progress of nigeria wit your bad mouth, go siddon one place and respect your age, tozo like u[/quote]Are you sane? Whats the meaning of this rubbish?

The ministers choice of sin was a good one. You can see Nothando waving and her "jiggly" pointing straight up. Chineke!
Well done minister!