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CNN has said that there is the potential of Iranian military escorts already on the way. But lets wait and see if that materialises.
If it does, its WWIII! Iranians were known to sacrifice themselves willingly to clear minefields by simply walking or running in so that their "brothers" could come through. . . The Mullahs just might be unhinged enough to set this ball rolling.

Prophecy - Hearken ye! In this bombed out abyss used to exist a country called Israel, in the other used to exist another called Iran. . .

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Dude! Do you want to murder davidylan with truth and facts?

The Israeli ambassador to the US was just interviewed on CNN concerning the ban of items like chocolates, fishing rods and [size=18pt]music[/size] from Gaza. The monster tried his best to dodge the question and finally came up with "they get those things elsewhere, through tunnels into Egypt and such". Talk of Lucifer! . . .Even music?!!!!!

By 2008, there were only four countries left in the whole World with a polio presence; Nigeria, India, Pakistan, and Afghanistan. Shame!

This is an incredible level of desperation. Foolishness come to town!!!!!
These idiots do not represent either Northerners or Northern opinion.

[size=14pt]2011: North moves against Jonathan [/size]
•As ACF may compel northerners to quit govt
•Sets up Arewa Elders Assembly to actualise agenda
Written by Bola Badmus
Tuesday, 08 June 2010

A major decision to stop President Goodluck Jonathan from contesting the 2011 presidential election may have been taken by the Arewa Consultative Forum (ACF) as it has resolved to ensure a northerner is elected Nigeria’s next president.

Jonathan became the president following the death of President Umaru Yar’ Adua in May this year.

The ACF, which met in Kaduna on Sunday, according to a source, took  a number of decisions towards retaining power in the North beyond 2011, even though a division was said to have occurred in the ranks.

Nigerian Tribune gathered that in spite of the division which led to a section feeling suspicious of the other for allegedly selling out on Jonathan’s alleged 2010 presidential ambition,  a parallel organisation, Arewa Elders Assembly was said to have been raised with a strict mandate to ensure that a northerner emerged as the next president of the country.

[size=13pt]According to findings, prominent northerners serving in the government of President Jonathan may be given an ultimatum to resign their positions if eventually Jonathan decides to contest the 2011 presidential poll.

The elders’ assembly is said to consist of Alhaji Tanko Yakassai, Bashir Dalhatu, Alhaji Shetima Ali Monguno and Waziri Kirfi, among others.[/size]

The move, Nigerian Tribune learnt, is to commence in earnest with forces being mobilised across the length and breadth of the North followed by mounting of pressure on President Jonathan to declare his alleged presidential ambition.

Besides, prominent northerners in the government of President Jonathan, including ministers, National Security Adviser (NSA), General Aliyu Gusau; General T. Y. Danjuma and  others serving on various presidential committees would be tasked to confirm if it was true that Jonathan was going to contest the 2011 presidential  poll.

The source, speaking on condition of anonymity, disclosed that the Arewa Elders Assembly was said to have resolved that should it be confirmed that Jonathan would contest the presidential election, it would have no option than to ask prominent northerners serving in his government to quit within a given time.

It will be recalled that Nigerians have been speaking on the possibility or otherwise of President Jonathan contesting the 2011 presidential poll, with opinions divided against the backdrop of the zoning principle in the PDP.

Former President Olusegun Obasanjo has, however, stated that there was no zoning arrangement in the party but stopped short of saying Jonathan would contest the presidential poll in 2011.

http://www.tribune.com.ng/index.php/front-page-news/6512-2011-north-moves-against-jonathan-as-acf-may-compel-northerners-to-quit-govt-sets-up-arewa-elders-assembly-to-actualise-agenda

The army, navy and airforce should be next after the police, for total revamp. The weapons we have are an absolute disgrace, fit only for the flintstones.

Maybe its best to just cancel the state! There are too many states in the country anyway.
On a serious note I support the declaration of a state of emergency in Bayelsa, the sooner, the better. Bombs just can't keep going off alongside with the other barbarisms the political classes are inflicting on the poor masses.
The best thing Uncle Joe can do is give us free and fair elections, so we never get the same old bastar'ds as "leaders" ever again.

[size=14pt]Declaring A State Of Emergency In Bayelsa State[/size]
Monday, 07 June 2010 03:19

Quoting sources in and outside of Abuja and Yenagoa, the Bayelsa State capital, the Niger Delta Standard newspaper is reporting that “the Federal government may be considering the declaration of a state of emergency in the state… a Presidential source, who spoke on the ground of anonymity argued that the emergency rule option appears to be the ultimate solution to the problem in the state.” We disagree! We vehemently disagree: a state of emergency is not a solution, politically or constitutionally, to the problems of the state. The ultimate solutions lay in political rearrangements, common sense and tolerance. There is no doubt that Governor Sylva’s administration has performed below expectation. And in indeed, the state is continually beset by budgetary and accountability woes; still, the problems of the state – and the problems the Governor face -- are far more and far worse than meets the common eyes.

To be sure, the Governor himself gave his enemies the tools with which to hammer him (as a result of his low performance rating); but even so, his political enemies have not let up in wanting to destroy him. The ongoing battle between himself and Peremobowei Ebebi, the Deputy Governor, is the most public of all the camps itching and planning to do the Governor in. Mr. Ebebi has essentially decided to wage a blistering and bloody war against the Governor. How does, and why would a sitting Deputy, wage a war against his boss and partner?

Since the summer of 2009, about a dozen groups in the state have been gunning for the governor, including The Goodluck Jonathan Camp and the Timi Alaibe’s Group. The Goodluck group seems to think that Governor Sylva is disrespectful of their man by his refusal to take direct and indirect instructions regarding the affairs of the state. This group has its eyes set on the 2011/2012 primary and elections. However, it would rather do Sylva in before the next election through the EFCC. Or through a legalized illegal means.

Over the last couple of months, both the Goodluck camp and the Alaibe’s group have been planting damaging information, amplifying Sylva’s real and perceived weaknesses and emboldening internal dissents and within the government, the civil society and civil service. We know, for instance, that there are commissioners, who have served in the recent past and others who are still in the Sylva’s government who, in truth, are working against the governor. Same is true of some contractors and advisers.

One of the major differences between the Alamieyeseigha government and the Sylva’s government is that while the majority of those who worked for and with Governor Alamieyeseigha were willing to die for a cause -- with the right inducements of course -- almost no one is willing to die for Sylva no matter the amount of inducements. What we see are legions of dupes, liars and self-aggrandizing opportunists who are willing and ready to sell their beneficiary at the slightest chance.

At this point, more so since the ascension of Goodluck Jonathan to the Nigerian Vice and substantive Presidency, many political operative and observers of the Bayelsa political scene believe that no amount of pleas and supplication is likely to save Governor Timipre Sylva. It was believed that he openly and secretly funded the dethronement of Goodluck Jonathan during the President Yar’Adua’s illness-induced absence. This alleged betrayal elicited a lot of anger and bloodletting emotion in the Jonathan’s camp. Today, it seems all daggers and arrows are pointed in his (Sylva) direction.

But of course, Governor Timpre Sylva is not a sitting target. He is not a greenhorn. He is not at the mercy of any human device. He is known to speak calmly, warmly and softly. But he is nobody’s fool. This is a man with the survival instinct of President Lyndon Johnson and Bill Clinton.

In all of these, Mr. Peremobowei Ebebi, the Deputy Governor, is likely to be the first casualty. Should he escape this round of impeachment proceeding, there is likely to be another, soon. Otherwise, he will “get Sylva” before Sylva “get’s him.” That said, the more imminent method to get rid of Governor Sylva is what’s currently being devised, directly or indirectly, by President Jonathan: declare a state of emergency in the state.

And what’s the pretext, the red herring? The series of bomb blasts and the perceived instability in the state. This move will allow President Jonathan to get rid of his nemesis and appoint an Administrator in his place. Foul! This method of solving the state’s crisis is not only underhand; it is illegal, unethical and politically cowardly. Declaring a state of emergency is not warranted and should therefore not be used as a cover to deal a blow to a political enemy.

We do not want or need any administrator in our State. There are several dimensions to the problems we see in Bayelsa State; one being the gradual breakdown of law and order. That being the case let the appropriate agencies -- at both the state and federal level -- deal with it by way of investigation, arrest and prosecution. The State does not own or control the Police. The State does not control the SSS. These are federal agencies. Bombs going off in Bayelsa are not new phenomenon. Where have the Police and the SSS and other security agencies been and been doing all these while?

We do not want a situation where President Jonathan appoints his own man as the administrator, and this so-called administrator, taking cue from Aso Rock, fills all the position with their own people, their supporters and praise singers. Essentially, Goodluck Jonathan would have achieved, with one single stroke, what he could not achieve through the democratic and guilt-free political process.

We have problems in Bayelsa State. No doubt about that. And we also know that the Governor and the President have their private quarrels (and for which we have been preaching peace, cooperation and forgiveness). The solution does not lie in declaring a state of emergency. Democracy is not easy; still, it is a process and a culture we must all learn from. If we allow President Jonathan to remove Governor Sylva, what will he do next? Use the instruments of his office to decapitate his political enemies -- as opposed to allowing the democratic and constitutional process to take place?

Sabidde@yahoo.com

http://www.newswatchngr.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2131&Itemid=1

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It may be too difficult for your cretinous mind to comprehend but there are ways of effecting land redistribution without following Mugabe's path which is a mere smokescreen. A competent leader can nationalise the farms with local farmers, who have been adequately trained, being shareholders leading to eventual privatisation.

This man's idiocy is staggering. The presence of drought does not ipso facto lead to hunger and starvation. Droughts are a natural phenomenon which occur practically everywhere. There are droughts in Britain, droughts in Australia,e.t.c

Droughts do not equal hunger unless your country has become, thanks to incompetent leaders like Mugabe, a basket case.

You will notice I refrain from cheap abuse like you. Not because I can't. . . It all points to a difference in upbringing. Who knows? Gutter behaviour might even be due to a lack of a mothers loving breas't milk at a tender age, leaving the mind crazed for good. Just a hypothesis.

Droughts occur in Australia and might not lead to hunger there, but droughts in Africa ALWAYS lead to hunger. And last time I looked, Australia was nowhere near Zimbabwe, neither was Britain . Weird examples, those! . . .Could be the milk thing again.

frosbel:
Keep displaying your ignorance for all to see.

Find out the proportion settlers that are of Russian, Polish and other East European origin and weep for yourself.

Now na war of your billion pass my own! Damn!
Shoot the lot at Bar Beach!

I hope Bill Gates can write the computer code to reprogramme some of the sharia minded goons acting as leaders in some Northern states; they think polio vaccines are a Western plot to do them in.
One cannot say though that some companies do not have past form in harming our people, the Pfizer case is not far from mind. Visits from giants, the likes of Bill Gates should help allay fears of a repeat.

[size=14pt]Nigerian leader lauds Bill Gates on polio, healthcare[/size]
(AFP) – 1 hour ago

ABUJA, Nigeria — Nigerian President Goodluck Jonathan on Monday met Microsoft founder Bill Gates and hailed the contributions he and his wife have made to healthcare delivery in Nigeria and around the world.

"I thank you for what you are doing for the world. Thank you for all the time and money you have been investing to make the world safer and healthier," an official statement quoted Jonathan as saying during the meeting.

"Thank you also for what you are doing for Nigeria as a nation. We appreciate and commend your efforts," he stated.

Jonathan welcomed the news from Gates that his Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation was working on developing an effective malaria vaccine by 2015, the statement added.

He also acknowledged the reported drop in polio cases in Nigeria from 256 in 2009 to just three so far this year, a situation he attributed to the joint efforts of the government, the Gates Foundation and other stakeholders, it said.

Gates said that since his last visit to Nigeria in February 2009, Nigeria had witnessed a greater reduction in polio cases than any country in the world.

The US billionaire said that he was in Nigeria for consultations on what was needed to ensure that polio never re-emerged on a large scale in Africa's most populous nation.

Gates was in Kano on Sunday to assess the impact of polio immunisation in this once polio-endemic state and epicentre of the transmission of the crippling viral disease throughout the world.

"It is fantastic to be here to see so much progress, in reducing the polio burden," Gates told a gathering of political and traditional leaders in Kano.

"The good result we have seen this year in Kano is a combination of good work and some good luck that the virus has not come back from any of the neighbouring countries," Gates said.

In the last 17 months Kano state, which has been a centre of the polio virus in Nigeria, has not recorded a single polio virus transmission, according to health officials.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5huKSzPKuqtYzJMy5Oa810tdLxY9w

Cohomology:
Thankfully, many American Jews are beginning to see the folly in supporting the evil Zionist regime in Tel-Aviv. May God punish Israel!

This warmed my heart:

Peter Beinart wrote a powerful article in the most recent New York Review of Books exploring the way young Jews in America feel much less identification with Israel than their elders did. Mr. Beinart noted that even the student Senate at Brandeis University, which has strong Jewish ties, rejected a resolution commemorating the 60th anniversary of Israel.

Those students did the right thing. Why should anybody celebrate Israel's anniversary? An anniversary of hate, oppression, racism, Apartheid (far worse than the South African version), murder, infanticide, assassination, arrogance, opprobrium and sheer evil!

That because, for the most part, American Jews are content; not the crazy eyed, starving East European settlers that see "free" Palestinian land as a ticket away from poverty. Monsters!

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Idiot, I support the redistribution of land to redress the injustice of the past where land was allocated on the basis of skin colour. However, unlike imbeciles like you, I do not support Mugabe's present charade of a reform which is a smokescreen to hang on to power

Land reform must be done in a manner that benefits the average Zimbabwean and does not harm the economy. It may take longer, but there are sensible ways of doing it. Beating up Zimbabweans, creating famine and driving millions of Zimbabweans into neighbouring countries is not a brilliant idea.

Hmmmmm! Contradictions galore! You support land redistribution, yet you do not support Mugabe's reforms?
Zimbabwe suffered the same food shortages as the whole of East Africa which was affected by a divastating drought (which "all powerful" as he may be, Mugabe did not cause). Ridiculous.

Droughts are a regular and devastating occurence in Eastern and Southern Africa, not just Zimbabwe. Droughts cause famine, not Mugabe.

Drought in Tanzania http://www.irinnews.org/report.aspx?reportid=46508
Drought in Zimbabwe http://ocha-gwapps1.unog.ch/rw/rwb.nsf/db900sid/ACOS-64C673?OpenDocument
Drought in Namibia http://www.odi.org.uk/work/projects/pdn/drought/rothauge.html
Drought in Zambia http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/2721275.stm

chidichris:
am not moved as long as nobody is telling us what happened to the us$16b and N300b electricity contracts and road reconstruction respectively.
today we are celebrating uk, tomorrow when the show the documentary of nigeria, they will become our enemy.

Nothing but IBB's name seems to move you. . . Then you go into fits of unadulterated joy.
Long live imprisonment Odidigboigbo!!!!

Afam:
The guy na cursed idiot.

I'm realising it!

davidylan:
Someone posted this on a UK discussion board and i thought it was pertinent here too . . .

[size=16pt]The trouble is that there three main posters, those that hate Israel with a passion, no matter what evidence you place before them their attitude is " I have made my mind up don't confuse me with facts. We all know who these people are because their names come up time and time again. The second type are those who are pro Israel like you and I who know what the real situation is. The third group are those who do not know what to believe, they might well see through the massive distortions and lies by Hamas/Turkey but still feel because so many people are against Israel there must be truth in numbers. I hope that these people, the third group, will realize sooner or later what the truth really is.[/size]

Group 1 - Afam, Beaf, cohomology, bomany, romeo4real e.t.c.

Group 2 - Frosbel, ElRazur, Pro01, Mariory, Bawomolo, dayokanu, Davidylan, Madlady

Group 3 - Sagamite

You got what I hate with a passion completley wrong. Its not Israel I hate, its damn foolishness!

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If you contrast your entry above with that of pro01, your shortcommings will become obvious. I re-emphasise, sycophancy ain't my thing.

davidylan:
the arrogance of stupidity.

Jealous? Want to be me?

pro01:
I'm trying to understand what you mean by "unorthodox tactics"; my guess is that you're talking about something similar to guerilla warfare - considering the examples (eg Hezbollah) you cited. You must however realize that such tactics cannot apply in a war between Iran & Isreal. Guerrila tactics have mostly been applied by locals to fight/ambush an invading army (especially infantry forces). This has been used over the ages (Vietnam, Taliban, Hezbollah, Iraqi rebels, etc.). Being that Isreal wouldn't necessarily invade Tehran with infantry units, I don't see how "unorthodox tactics" would be useful to Iran. Confrontation between both countries would be decided by whose military has superior war-heads, aerial fire-power, and sophisticated missiles and anti-missile systems. Isreal towers head and shoulders over Iran in these parameters, even without US assistance, and would have my bet to obliterate Iran.

You have just listed all the reasons why Israel can never defeat Iran (and vice versa) in a conventional aim and shoot war. One very important thing to note in your list is the fact that anti-missile systems DO NOT WORK. Not even the US advanced star wars sheild is any use, it has been derided by experts as attempting to hit a bullet with a bullet; the system has been seriously scaled back and is destined for the research labs. So what chance do less advanced systems have?

As for the other items in your list, both countries have sophisticated missiles that they can rain on each other unceasingly; it would have to take a very expensive (in blood) land invasion to sort things out. Even the US does not relish a war with Iran, not because they will not win, it will be the sheer cost in human lives. The American public would not be able to absorb the number of body bags returning home, while the mullahs will be untiring. Thats the reality of the politics of the region and the reason no military action has been carried out against Iran.

frosbel:
Enjoy.

I do not really like the horrible music, but the video shows only a minute aspect of Israel's might !!

Enjoy,

I don't do sycophancy, so no thank you, I'll not be watching your video. If you care to check, you'll find that I have authored some brilliant threads on military tech in this section. Search them out, so you know that you might not stand a chance in military discussions (and I mean that seriously).

bawomolo:
you mean after the UN had to literally beg Israel from blasting lebanon into the Mediterranean? if you consider that a victory then you also think the taliban defeated the US in afghanistan.

No. I recall belligerence from both sides until common sense prevailed and Israel withdrew.

davidylan:
lol you think beaf has the capacity for intelligence?

[size=36pt]. . .We all know davidylan is NL's village fool![/size]

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An Al-Qaeda disgrace to his long suffering mother.

Princek12:
Northerners have ruled for pretty much all of Nigeria's history, save for Obasanjo's regime, during which time he had to answer to the Northern Mafia, for they handed him the presidency. He returned the presidency to them. Northern malos dominate the Congress and are unquestionably influential in Nigerian politics. They hand out all the contracts to themselves, so don't act like this is foreign to you.

I am quite uncomfortable about the blanket blame and name calling. The North is made up of several different ethnic groups, several different religions and several different viewpoints. You need to apply caution and civility to your use of language; 90% of those you are accusing are innocent.

davidylan:
there were 8-9 ships on the sea, all but one complied to Israeli instructions to dock in Ashdod and we heard no incidence of Israeli brutality or killings on board. What was different about this other ship?

There is another thread dealing with this issue. No?
Besides, the was the lead ship in the convoy. Find that out and address it on the other thread (I'll gladly meet you there), I hate crossing threads.

davidylan:
Besides you still havent clarified the blatant contradictions in your analysis of events.

There are two unanswered questions that show that your analysis of my analysis is critically flawed.
Go answer those questions.

On my knee's praying in fervent prayer for the success of the UK authorities in their exradition of the Odidigboigbo of Oghara.
He will be getting 42 years with the UK's baddest butt luvin' hunks.

davidylan:
uh oh . . . but i thought you made the claim that:

1. the "civilian volunteer activists" were simply "peaceful" activists attacked by Israeli commandos . . .

2. the videos were a manipulation by the Israeli foreign ministry?

Which are we to believe now?

Charlie, do peaceful men not fight when their homes are broken into? Have both sides not agreed that there were scuffles?
If the answer to the two questions above is "yes", then your contribution above is sailing off point.

frosbel:
Israel cannot defeat Iran ? Are you really serious about this statement ?

According to the reputable Global firepower site ( http://www.globalfirepower.com/index.asp), Israel is the 11th most powerful military in the world while Iran is the 18th.
. . .

Iranian tactics are off the unorthodox military scale and highly effective.
Engage your brains. Sometimes we make these funny comparisons without thinking. Hezbollah defeated Israel a couple of years ago, yet they were a comparatively poorly armed militia. The difference is that they used unorthodox Iranian tactics. Its tactics that win a war son. . . And don't forget we very recently saw macho, black attired, helicopter borne, abseiling commando's being thoroughly beaten up by civilian volunteer activists ; the Israeli army ain't what it once was.

It will take the US (no less) to win a war between Israel and Iran.

igboitalo:
people like tudor and myjoe are the problem in africa, the worship the white man ,anything the whiteman does is ok. the have one thing in common cnn and bbc are thier bible .they are what i call modern day uncle tom's
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zUIjP4KWok, maybe that link will help u know the kind of person you are, you house nigga.

True,especially Tudor, the woman in crisis. She thinks that being aimlessly and foolishly obnoxious is somehow a display of knowledge and a worthy sacrifice to her white gods. Its a real pity. MyJoe at least, makes arguments (even if they are rote recitals); the frustrated Tudor on the other hand, makes ZERO arguments, disgraces her womanhood and shames her black skin. . . The character of a serial convict and idiotic, fawning at the feet of whitey sellout.

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No, na shakara! If they try it, they will surely disappear in a puff of smoke. Israel cannot defeat Iran, but the US will summarily vaporise any adventurous Iranian escort.
There are more than enough US aircraft carriers and bases in proximity to the region. My broda, Ayatollah sef, get limit!

tudor: logical reasoning? U dare utter that term? How ironic. . .

Funny how the idiot avoided my question exposing his stupidity. . . . how does a sane man discuss the economic situation of zimbabwe without taking into cognisance the current political situation?  Answer the question you damned fool.

O yes! Logical reasoning!
You will find that learning to do it will be to your immense benefit.

There's no point attempting to cover up your shortcomings by acting like a gutter animal, going into fits and bursting your veins. If chimps can learn fancy tricks like riding bicycles, then surely there is hope for your like! Yes, even you too can learn to clean up your foul mouth, climb down the tree and think rationally; its an acquired skill you see, not something you hunt down with sticks, stones, clubs and the bare fangs of a neanderthal. . .  Damn!!!

I could help organise some civilisation classes for you if you want. Seriously, I could drop by your zoo! In the meantime seek solace with your fellow baboons, no hard feelings.

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