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Hey guys, I've got laptops and notebooks to sell. They are all branded laptops and high quality. I have HP, Dell, Compaq and Samsung.

Wouldn't mind to be a supplier as well. My Laptops are all Windows 7 OS with average of 4gb memories.

Cheap prices though.

Interested party should let me know!

Thanks

I've never heard a man say a girls mouth is pretty with a cigarette hanging on it, and neither I've I ever heard a girl say  she'd delete her male friends contacts off her mobile phone!

I was not expecting what I'd passed through these past few years. I thought I was on a roller-coaster jolly-ride to successes and breakthroughs. From then on, my thought was born!

God has designed this world in a way that will suit us as long as we understand the fundamental principle that governs it. I'm not any way trying to preach or sound like a Pastor today, but just want to draw us to the attention that this God we serve is somewhat partial and undefended.

I've always resent those of other faiths and beliefs before now, and often criticising them of not sharing my own belief. We always have the idea of how a Christian should sound like and behave, the Pastors also having the idea of how his flocks should be. Religion is not for sale, but a given.

We often live in past glory, but past glory is proven not to be enough in this current dispensation. Jesus upset the money lenders, particularly the red blooded blocs; Jesus was himself red blooded.

God does not need to be defended. He understands our plight and knows our shortcomings. Think of the people Jesus particularly invited to dine with him; the love-peddler, the tax collector, the prosecutor and so on. God enjoys those people we detest.

So, why are we now so enraged and bitter about those unbelievers that are making it big? Is their blessings not from God? . Is their not going to Church or confessing Jesus as their lord and personal saviour leaves them in doom?  And finally, is their not confessing Jesus has anything to do with getting rich and making it big? I don't think so.

Becoming a successful person in this world is got nothing to do with going to Church and confessing Jesus; a bit controversial you'd all say. There are thousands of insane things to believe out there. Is our lives just gonna be blown away like a candle, or be evaporated like a fading smoke? What are even the guarantees we do hold concerning the life after death? What if what we've been told were totally a myth or some sort of fabrications?

This is why we have faith which has been tested and trusted. The Spirit of God in us; the power of conviction, the instant miracles and answers we receive to our petitions: these testify of the existence of God and HIS power that manifest through us.

Concerning the partiality of God, think about this yourself, You fast, pray and do all that is required to gain favour of God, but no, HE gave it to some unbeliever. Can we then buy Gods favour and blessings? The answer is yes, do what the unbelievers are doing; give to the poor.   Some of us have been brainwashed that if we don't pay our tithe or give offering to the Church, we won't receive from God. This is a pathological lie that comes from the pit of hell.

The unbelievers are getting richer because they understand the principle of giving to the poor, while the Church goers are finding it difficult to make ends meet because they are just being religious.


And finally, we do not become rich and wealthy because we are Christians, We become rich and wealthy because we understand the principle of getting rich. Why serve God some would say?. We worship God for eternal salvation and get rich on earth if we are as wise as the unbelievers.

paris10:
, Just need someone to tell me otherwise, is it me alone that thinks this tithe thing is getting more attention that it actually deserves? Jesus only made mention of tithe throughout his time on earth once (that shows how insignificant tithe is)

Abeg make una tell me o, does that mean if you don't pay tithe, no heaven be that? Na wetin concern me most be that. If the answer is no, then sr*w tithe then.

If paying tithe is a prerequisite to making heaven, then the likes of Apostle Paul, Mathew, John and even Jesus himself would be in hell by now!

chaircover:
No disrespect but You want a hall for under 300k yet you have the money to invite 9ice to play at your party. Even in Ibadan good top class halls are at the 1 million Mark.

Anyway my little advise is that you find a hall reletively close to your wedding service if you dont want to hold your reception in your car due to Lagos traffic jams.

You sound like someone who needs a wedding planner.

, E don tey wey I don leave home o. Not sure about the price of anything in 9ja. As for 9ice, just enquiring how much it would cost to secure his service.

Me wedding is fast approaching and haven't yet got a venue for the reception party. I need a state of the art venue with a/c and stage, very spacious and well equipped. I also would want the surrounding to be tiled. Preferably, the one with a car park.

My max budget would be #300,000 but would want to spend less.

Lest I forget, I would appreciate if anyone could tell me how much it will cost for the likes 9ice or Sunny Nnaji!


Tanx

Tonye-t:
Maybe i should also come to think or preach that Jesus was also incompetent and fraudelent to teach the people to continue tithing  . or maybe i should also go back and check out just what the Jesus said about tithing 

Matt.23:23:. . . and Jesus continued by saying assuredly  i say unto you practise justice, practise mercy, practise faithfulness and also [b]do not neglect to practise tithing[/b]

And to say our free-thinker friend should go on thinking reprobacy goes to tell me that Oshob can maybe add free-thinking to his CV after subscribing to 'gnosticism', 'anti-tithing' and 'anti-trinity' even in the glares of scriptures, it sure goes to tell me just what kind of mind you possess, free-thinking of course  . [size=5pt]i just dont pray my dear friend and brother wakes up one day to tell us God doesnt exist[/size]   

@tonye-t, You've just murdered the Bible!! Shame on you! Where on earth did you find this your blasphemous version of Matt 23:23 or even the Bible you just quoted from? Are you for real. Jesus never advised the Pharisees to tithe! Did you go to school at all? If yes, were you taught Figures of speech? Jesus's statement in that verse of scripture was an irony.

My advice, always read the preceding verses of scriptures and don't forget to read the subsequent or succeeding verses or chapters too. Study to show yourself approved the Bible says.

ogoamaka99:
@paris10,
What a wonderful write up. However you did not do proper resarch before posting. So point of correction, Winners chapel has two jets not one and the third one is on the way. If that will make you shade tears of BLOOD go ahead. Your problem is that you are still living in the yesterday world of pastors so you still posses poverty mentality about pastors. Please read my post on men of GOD yesterday, today and tommorrow for more information. So my dear , i want you to prepare you heart for more. That only four pastors in Nigeria are using private jets are not enough but only for now .I said this because very soon up to 10(ten) pastors will be using private jets. The rest will be using helicopters to travel around the country.By that time you may die of heart attack seeing them if care is not taken.
So my dear paris10, it is a high time you liberate yourself of poverty mentality.How much is the costs of these private jets that you are angry that churches these men of GOD are leading purchased?. What a pity , a private jet that if allowed less than 10(ten) members of these churches could sponsor ie could purchase for the church.

Because you're this gullible, ignorant and brainwashed you've failed to see light to what @paris10 is saying. Your Pastor or Church having 3 jets does not in any way justify those purchases. Where in the world apart from Nigeria would you see pastors publicly and flamboyantly displaying their wealth and assets?, Only Nigeria!! WHY? , because the lazy, ignorant, illiterate Church members thinks the Pastors are behind every of their successes and achievements.

Nigeria is still a third world nation. Instead of resources to be channelled towards eradicating poverty and diseases, ignorant Church members (especially those whose source of income cannot be verified) are busy buying jets for Pastors. Bribing MOG's does not guarantee heaven.

ifunayam:
Thanks jare my dear. Met the lucky girl after that topic o. Just proposed to her this month. You know what, I don't have to wait for years to get to know her better, I think I did already! A graduate, nice job and comes from a good family. Very sociable and well spoken of. She's humble too and don't need my money to make her feel better.



Awwwww so sweet, glad to know that your efforts on here in that regard were worth the while. smart move bro! you really dont have to wait 4 eternity 2 study one. considering all u said about my sister from another mother i should say you are one lucky brother. congrats once again! your marriage shall be a blessing, you will see your children's children. IJN AMEN.

Amen to that Sis!

dominique:
2 mil is not too huge or small. it all depends on what plans you have for the wedding.

At least 300 guests would honour this occasion including family members

yvyy:
@ POSTER, AM A WEDDING PLANNER.
wts your email addy lets chat live.
2m is not bad but it all depends on your number of guess.

and again is d 2mill for just white wedding or for trad and white.


i could do a customize sketch of d budget for u.my email addy is yventsweddings@yahoo.com or yvluvu@yahoo.com

my fone number is 08037988194.

am online from 7am -6:30pm mon-friday

I have budgeted #2 Million for this wedding and nothing more! This also include the introduction and the engagement. Can't kill myself o. I believe my fiancé's family should help out as well if they believe the money is too small.

ifunayam:
Congrats on your up-coming wedding Mr. BEE444,

Yep 2million naira should be enough, try and make it moderate and simple.  Remember a successful marriage is not based on how much money that was spent on wedding.  Be prudent, save the rest for your new home.

Just curious was it through your other thread on; I'm Coming Back To Nigeria Soon, Need A Decent Girl To Marry! Hook Me Up Pls! May 03, 2010, 03:34 AM » that you found her?

Thanks jare my dear. Met the lucky girl after that topic o. Just proposed to her this month. You know what, I don't have to wait for years to get to know her better, I think I did already! A graduate, nice job and comes from a good family. Very sociable and well spoken of. She's humble too and don't need my money to make her feel better.

boombell:
Pls let know what is the capital base of your investment in 9ja or abroad,this will help determine if u will need more or reduce it.

What has that got to do with the wedding? Na wa o!

, My wedding is around the corner and I've managed to raise #2 Million for the ceremony. I want it big but still sceptical it won't be enough. Just want a good planner to take me through on how to use the resource in my possession judiciously.

My Fiancé parent ain't that rich, hence wanting to use this money for all the set up.

*Separate money is already set aside for the honeymoon.

Pls give me ideas and ways to spend this money,

Tanx

Americans, both white & black are crack-heads. Even the intellectuals amongst them tend to be ignorant of the happenings around them, except ofcourse America!

The AA either play B-ball or rap and sell dope while the ignorant whites amongst them live on welfare, stab and mug people on the street and bleep their sisters at the back of a moving van.

I think Obama is intelligent, but silly. He thinks the world evolves round him alone. You can never eat your cake and have it at the same time. This is to you Osama, sorry Obama, if you want to be a Muslim, let us know, stop confessing Islam indirectly. America lived on the ideas and values that a true American must not compromise regardless of the differences and divides that rule the nation.

And to the AA's, Obama is not your saviour and neither is he any better than those that have come before him. A politician will ever remain one till the end of consummation. Wake up America( AA's) and go back to school! The whites already have surplus and inheritance for their children through manipulation of funds and through hundreds of years of acquisition of properties from the slaves they once control.

FOUR people have been jailed for more than six years for their part in a sham marriage scam involving Nigerian and Dutch nationals.

The UK Border Agency (UKBA) investigation, working with Essex Police and other forces, was triggered when officers identified the suspicious travel patterns of passengers flying in and out of Stansted and Luton airports on tickets bought by Adeolu Eletu, a 29-year-old Nigerian.

On 10 February, officers from the UK Border Agency’s Immigration Crime Team (East), arrested Daniloush Solano, a 21-year-old Dutch woman, at Luton Airport as she attempted to board a flight to Amsterdam.

Investigations revealed that earlier that day Solano had married Eletu at a church in Wood Green, London.

Eletu was subsequently arrested on February 27 at his home address in Falcon Brae, Livingston.

His Nigerian girlfriend Helen Omoboye, 33, was also arrested.

Sylvernus Ogungbade, a 36-year-old Nigerian, was also arrested on February 10 after officers established that Solano had caught her taxi to Luton Airport from his home in Goldbeater’s Grove, Edgware.

Immigration checks revealed that Ogungbade, who was living alone, had recently applied for a visa on the back of his marriage to a Dutch woman who is still wanted by the UK Border Agency.

On Thursday at Luton Crown Court, Eletu, Ogungbade and Omoboye pleaded guilty to conspiring to breach the UK’s immigration laws. Eletu and Omoboye also pleaded guilty to perjury charges.

Eletu was sentenced to two years eight months, Omoboye was sentenced to 18 months and Ogungbade was sentenced to a year and eight months.

Solano had pleaded guilty to charges of conspiring to breach the UK’s immigration laws and perjury at an earlier hearing on June 10. She was sentenced to 12 months.

Detective sergeant Andy Harvey, of Essex Police, said: “We started profiling passengers coming into Stansted Airport who only stayed in the country for 24 hours.

“This included young women coming in from Holland who when stopped and searched were found to be in possession of large sums of money.

“Through further enquiries and good police and partnership work with the UKBA, arrests were made in London and the Home Counties.

“We hope that these prison sentences will send a strong message to anyone else considering attempting to commit crime through Stansted Airport.”

              http://www.eveningstar.co.uk/news/four_jailed_for_sham_marriage_scam_1_504714


24 June 2010

A Nigerian man has been jailed for 18 months after admitting he entered into a sham marriage in a bid to undermine the UK's immigration laws.

Olumuyiwa Otti, 40, pleaded guilty at Coventry Crown Court to a charge of providing a false statement to obtain a marriage certificate and seeking to obtain leave to remain in the UK by deception.

Otti, an illegal entrant to the UK, was arrested by officers from the UK Border Agency's immigration crime team on 7 January 2010 when he reported to a UK Border Agency office in Solihull. He was remanded into custody.

Officers were acting on intelligence that Otti had given a false address to the registrar of St John the Divine Church, Willenhall, Coventry before marrying a French woman at the church on 14 September 2009.

When questioned by UK Border Agency officers the French woman admitted taking part in a sham marriage and that Otti had paid her £3,000 to do so.

Sam Bullimore, UK Border Agency assistant director, said:
'The sentence handed down today shows how seriously we, and the courts, take these kinds of attempts to undermine our immigration laws. We will not tolerate immigration abuse and, as this conviction demonstrates, our immigration crime teams are creating a hostile environment for those who break the immigration laws.

'Sham marriages are not just about getting a ticket to the UK. Offenders are also involved in other forms of criminality. If we uncover marriages that are not genuine, we will challenge them and prosecute where appropriate. Our main aim is to identify those who are the organisers of sham marriages and destroy their criminal business.

'People should be under no illusion that marriage alone is enough to get permission to stay in the UK. Couples must also prove to the UK Border Agency that they have been in a genuine relationship for at least two years.'
Otti's conviction follows that of two other sham marriage offenders at the same court on Friday (18 June).
Olufunke Odunwo was sentenced to 18 months and Jephtah Emmanuel to 12 months.
Both the Nigerians admitted to a charge of conspiring to facilitate a breach of the UK's immigration laws. Odunwo additionally admitted charges of possession of a forged identity document and of providing a false statement to obtain a marriage certificate.
The couple had been arrested by officers from the UK Border Agency's immigration crime team on 4 March outside the Coventry diocesan registrar's as they applied for a common licence to marry.

Any foreign criminal sentenced to more than 12 months in prison for any offence is automatically considered for deportation.

Anyone who suspects someone of committing immigration related crime should contact Crimestoppers on 0800 555 111 where anonymity can be assured.


Six arrested on suspected marriage sham

24 June 2010
A bride and groom together with four wedding guests were arrested as part of a UK Border Agency investigation into a suspected sham marriage.

Acting on intelligence, officers from the UK Border Agency's north west immigration crime team targeted Manchester Register Office at around midday, as the service was about to start.

The would be bride, a Nigerian national, and her groom, a Czech male were both arrested for conspiracy to assist unlawful immigration. Two marriage witnesses, both Nigerian were also arrested along with two other Nigerian wedding guests on suspicion of assisting illegal immigration. All six are now being questioned by police and immigration officers.
In a follow up operation the UK Border Agency crime team conducted searches at four addresses in Manchester and one in Liverpool.
Dave Magrath, Head of the UK Border Agency immigration crime team in the north-west, said:
'We are committed to tackling sham marriages and take action against those who try to falsify marriages in order to gain entry to the UK.
'We have specialist teams of immigration officers and police working o investigate cases just like this and ensuring people are not able to benefit from breaking the UK's immigration laws.'


Man jailed after UK Border Agency foils sham marriage

11 June 2010
A bogus groom has been jailed at Leeds Crown Court for 12 months after plotting to stage a sham marriage.
Just days before the planned wedding, 23-year-old Shola Bansi Yaya - a Nigerian illegal immigrant - and his fake bride Adejumoke Ariyeye, 24, were arrested as they arrived at church for a meeting with the vicar. The marriage was stopped after an investigation by the UK Border Agency immigration crime team revealed that fake documents were being used in the marriage plans.
Yaya and Ariyeye, together with 20-year-old Portuguese accomplice Maria Da Grava Correia Tavares Da Silva, were sentenced today for arranging the fake marriage that would have enabled Yaya to apply to take up permanent residence in the UK. Yaya and Da Silva had already pleaded guilty, while Ariyeye, a Nigerian who was in the country legally, was found guilty at court last month.
Yaya was jailed for 12 months. Da Silva and Ariyeye both received suspended 12-month sentences.
The court heard how Yaya, who entered the UK illegally in 2003, approached the vicar at St Peter's Church, Morley, Leeds in October last year to make arrangements to marry Da Silva. However, his marriage application aroused the suspicion of the Registrar to the Bishop and Diocese of Wakefield, who reported the marriage request to the UK Border Agency.
Officers from our immigration crime team launched an investigation into the planned marriage and discovered that many of the details and documents supplied by Yaya were falsified, including his UK address and immigration status. The court also heard that the woman Yaya had taken to meet the vicar was not Da Silva, but was Ariyeye who was fraudulently using Da Silva's Portuguese passport.
A wedding date was set for Saturday 12 December 2009, but on Tuesday 8 December a staged meeting with the vicar was arranged by the UK Border Agency. When Yaya and Ariyeye (claiming to be Da Silva) arrived at the church, they were arrested by officers from the immigration crime team. Further investigations by the team enabled them to trace Da Silva to an address in London, where she was arrested on 20 January this year. She admitted becoming involved in the scam after she had been offered £500 in exchange for her identity documents.
In interview, Yaya claimed he was introduced to Da Silva in London and then paid £3,000 to arrange a sham marriage to the Portuguese woman. He claimed that Da Silva had subsequently refused to take part in the marriage unless she was given more money, at which point it was arranged for Ariyeye to act as a stand-in.
Jeremy Oppenheim, regional director for the UK Border Agency, said:
'The UK Border Agency successfully thwarted this attempt to gain illegal residency in the UK by means of a sham marriage. The case demonstrates our determination to take action against those who try to falsify marriages in order to gain entry to the UK.
'We have specialist teams of immigration officers and police working side by side to investigate and prosecute cases just like this and ensuring people are not able to benefit from breaking the UK's immigration laws.'
Detective Inspector Don Newlove of the UK Border Agency immigration crime team said:
'This is one of a number of successful prosecutions into sham marriages carried out by the UK Border Agency North East, Yorkshire and Humberside immigration crime team.
'This clearly demonstrates the effectiveness of police and immigration officers working together to tackle immigration crime.'


Four remanded in custody on sham marriage charges

20 May 2010
Four people appeared before Peterborough Magistrates' Court on sham marriage charges on 19 May.

Fernando Manuel Simose Da Silva, 43, of Lincoln Road, Peterborough; Mamadu Djalo, 33, of Russell Street, Peterborough; Clifford Asikhia, 34, and Ruth Abumhere, 29, both of Gransden House, Bowditch, London, were all remanded in custody.

The four were arrested by members of the UK Border Agency's Immigration Crime Team (East) at All Saints Church in Park Road, Peterborough, on Monday 17 May.

Da Silva, from Portugal, and Asikhia, from Nigeria, have both been charged with facilitating a breach of the UK's immigration laws.

As well as facilitation charges Abumhere, from Nigeria, and Djalo, from Portugal, have also been charged with identity offences.

All four are due to appear at Peterborough Crown Court on 27 May.


PLS Nigerians, lets stop this behaviour noww!!! Every marriage is said to be investigated now, no more hiding place for those involve.

A Nigerian male, Anthony Chima Anyanwu was arrested on 29 June as part of a UK Border Agency investigation into a suspected sham marriage.

Acting on intelligence, officers from the UK Border Agency's north west immigration crime team arrested Anyanwu, 41, of 14 Albert Avenue, Manchester, as part of a wider sham marriage operation. He has been charged with obtaining leave to remain by deception, perjury and ID card offences. He is due to appear in Burnley Magistrates Court on Wednesday 22 September.
Dave Magrath, Head of the UK Border Agency immigration crime team in the north-west, said:
'We will challenge anyone who we suspect may take part in a sham marriage and seek to prosecute where appropriate. We will also seek to remove foreign national offenders convicted of involvement in marriage scams after they have served their sentences.'

Abegi, make una complete the rest jare, Can't just get this off my mind since morning, I wonder o!

@doyin13,

I was about opening same topic, then I found yours!

Though I wouldn't use the word 'boring', I'd go with uninteresting and stereotype.

I once thought that going to church,listening to my Pastors and participating in Church activities would give me all I ever want in achieving my spiritual growth and getting closer to God the more, so far, I've been wrong.

After years of study and my knowledge of God, I've come to realise that people (even Pastors) are just pretenders who often hide from reality. They make you believe that you could only achieve certain things by your dedication and services (often for thier own selfish gain) to the church and not by your personal relationship with God, this is heresy teaching.
Almost 90% of them just want your tithe, first fruits and anything fruit mentioned in the old testament, I even hear one the other day saying we must tithe every money given to us as a gift, not in the bible people (a lot of them would go to the length of looking for a scripture that doesn't even support their argument)

I've thought of changing Church several times, but there's just one thing stopping me, they're all the same!

I tell you people,whenever I need anything and I go to God, prayers always get answered. So, whats the hype about being a Christ embassy member, Redeemed, Rhema etc when you have God who doesn't care about what Church you go to?

Obinoscopy:
I suggest you re-read my statement and yours and see how you contradicted yourself. You asked "what has Chemotherapy got to do with being Gay". But you still went ahead and said that "medications that will cure or control this condition is in process" Or maybe you don't know the meaning of the word Chemotherapy? Well I suggest you check the meaning and get back to me.

Now to the last question of yours I quoted in bold letter, Homosexuality is more genetically controlled than Sexual Assault/Murder thus while we cannot blame homosexuals due to the fact that they were born with it, we can blame Murderers because they were not born a murderer but decided to be one due to societal influence.

Never knew I made those statement my friend, contradiction was the right word.

Anywaz, just for the record, there's still no apparent or scientifically proven evidence that gay people are born like that. Many factors have been based on environment, bullies, lack of self-confidence, neuronal chemical imbalance and brain deficit.

Just want to admonish you to stop selling your idea of 'born with it'. There's nothing like that in the real world. These are form of emotional and sentimental backlog people fall back on when their sexuality come into question.

But, there's a solution to everything, coming up shortly,

Obinoscopy:
I've had several guys approach me probably due to my handsomeness (some call it beauty . . . lol). Sometimes I wonder why guys will go after guys or ladies after ladies when we have many beautiful guys & chics roasting here. After numerous observations I've come to the conclusion that the problem is more of a genetic problem (internal problem) rather than an environmental problem. They are abnormal right from birth and there is nothing we can do about it. Thus I think the best thing is to let them be.

But if there is a medical solution to this problem I think we need to use it cause homosexuality is a sickness as far as am concerned. In fact I view it as HIV/AIDS. But just like HIV/AIDS we need to stop stigmatizing the people with such problems. Rather we need to give them a sense of understanding. If we can remove the stigma attached to homosexuality and allow them exercise their rights; and if maybe we can find a cure to the ailment, be it via psychotherapy or chemotherapy, then the better for all of us. But if we go on stigmatizing the homosexualities, they will hide their practice which could endanger their lives medically, socially and mentally.

Your personal observation is nothing compared to the numerous research carried out in relation to homosexuality. And what has Chemotherapy got to do with being gay? You're clueless (no offence here)

Homosexuality is an illusion; punishment is pointless. It has no moral responsibility; people don't behave without a cause.
It is akin associated with religious beliefs. It is like a contract pre-structured in our mind; a notion of time. Human life isn't about what we determined, it is about the freedom to make that choices, and we can not ignore the forces mitigating our actions.

Homosexuality is generally a  neuronal chemical imbalance, a brain deficit etc.  Objectives of developing medication that will cure or control this condition is in process, but the question is,  where should we draw the line? Should we be pursuing genetic determinants of intelligence or sexuality? What about deviant behaviours such as alcoholism, sexual assault, theft or murder?

If homosexuality is said to be genetic or biological, to what extent should individual be held responsible for their actions in relations to sexual assault or murder?

@All,

Homosexuality is not a disease and neither is it a disability. It is an obsession, a fantasy, an unrealistic self-deluded possessive natural fallacy.

No one is born with it, but rather, it is an environmental corruption derived from associating with evil possessed people.  Psychologically, it is not heritable. It is a freewill. Humans react to environmental stimuli; according to choice. We behave according to forces beyond our control; a deterministic behaviour.

How many times have we seen people going back to being straight? So often!. We are what we chose to be people!

People who says homosexuality is genetic are ignorant and lack foresight. They know nothing about freewill and its deterministic factors.

Homosexuality is derived from lack of self-confidence, the inability to confront challenges, the often rejection of advances from the other counterpart and from not having the ability to defend self in matters relating to bullies and sexually related incidence.

don't mind them jare @poster, they think they can buy their way to heaven by going to someone else's country, speaking someone else's language and buying some gold/silver teeth's. Ignorance indeed!

ibnakeem:
@beetee44 If you are out of words, why dont you go to bed rather than blaspheming another religion.

Very disappointing comment! Pls do come up with a very constructive and more meaningful post, ok!. Na beg I beg u

wazobia200:
Some of you people dont know the inherent and evil nature of the babalawos. Yoruba culture is the best in africa, period!. The story line in most of the movies is way better and superior to the english ones. But babalawos, jujus and all these fetish practices should be done away with.

Do you know how many ppl whose lives, carriers, advancement in life as been ruined by this evil practices. Many ppl destiny are altered and lives caught short before their appointed time by babalawos and fetishism. All these mysterious death you found common in yoruba land, you think it is ordinary. No my friend, most of them are as a result of ppl that take your 'case' to a babalawo because they were offended.

You know how many famous(or would be famous) sons and daughters of the yorubas whose lives and destinies are truncated by this diabolically forces. This practices is rooted in witchcraft and nothing good comes out of witchcraft. The devil cannot offer anything good to humanity.

But this heathen practices is increasing and will not decrease because we are in the last days. Such practices is common even in europe and movies that as mystical or magical flair to it sells better here in the USA.

Dont get me wrong, yorubas are great ppl. The culture is the best. The use of words, the proverbs, the respect for elders etc are wonderful. But this heathen practices should be done away with from our culture. Because it as limited yoruba progress as individual and a collective body.

If am president of that country, i will ban those babalawos and make it a crime for anyone to seek or practice such!

I second that bro. Yoruba's are great people. Couldn't agree more with you. I like them dearly.

porka:
Religion cannot set anyone free. No religion can obliterate the blight of poverty and disease and man-made problems. It is education. There are no religions in Africa, there are pseudo-religious enterprises. The so-called religious enterprises are a burden on these hapless villagers. What they need is how to grow their crops and get better yields, how to save their excess income and not squander it in ostentatious living, how to avoid or treat snake bite by wearing long boots, how to avoid tetanus infection and not call it attack, how to send their children to school to better their lots and not thinking of them jamming luck someday, how to protect themselves from adverse weather condition through weather information, how to avoid mosquito bites through proper usage of mosquito nets, how to organize themselves into civil societies to confront their representatives and claim their civil rights, how to take advantage of civil arbitration and not take laws into their hands by resorting to jungle justice, how not to have too many children that they cannot take care of. Put simply, how to master their environment. Religion cannot do it. It’s science that does that. The early missionaries in Africa and Asia used this simple technique to develop their host communities, unfortunately since they left, we have gone back to our primitive ways.

You're a soothsayer , You just read my mind. Thank you so much. Your post is very educative, interesting and says it all.

AkoEja:
Yoruba films are dying because of the Babalawo problem. Bringing juju into everything has made me to stop watching Yoruba films. Its really disgusting. Its due to lack of quality amongst the producers. They usually involve the babalawos in cheesy idiotic and moronic plots.

You're right bang on the point my dear!

medinatl:
@bee444 

"However, most of the Yoruba actor/producers are Muslims (Yoruba Muslims sees nothing wrong with aajo- alternate source) thereby making the Christians amongst them look rather sheepish or marooned. Murphy Afolabi is one of the worst Yoruba Producer of all time. Always showcasing his diabolical power or most times herbalitical prowess. For goodness sake, does every misfortune in  Yoruba Movies have to lead to consulting a soothsayer/herbalist?"

I am a Muslim and a Yoruba, can you educate me on your statement about Yoruba Muslims seeing nothing wrong with aajo- alternate source. IF YOU DON'T KNOW ABOUT A RELIGION, DON'T MAKE FALSE STATEMENT ABOUT IT. You need to read your Bible about making False statement. Can you point me to the verse or chapter of the Quran that allows “alternate source”. You may not like Islam as a religion but that does not give you any right to say that Islam  accepts the use of Babalawo. The fact that Nigerians are mixing traditions with their religion does not mean that ISLAM allows it AND the same goes for Christianity.

When I first saw your post, I was like I must read this because I agree 100% with the title of your post.

Another Post of yours 
"Bukky wright (a Muslim) is sick, you see her first with the herbalist, then Alfa, and finally the Church (Cele or C&S). "
IS IT A CRIME TO BE A MUSLIM AND AN ACTOR? YOU SHOULD BE PROUD THAT SHE IS A NIGERIAN. AM PROUD OF ALL OF OUR NIGERIAN ACTORS REGARDLESS OF THEIR RELIGION.

Analogy my sister, analogy. Don't take offence, se otigbo aburo? Just trying to make a statement. Not dissing muslims,ok.

Olumide7:
Let's face it, Babalawos are part of the yoruba culture or any nigerian culture in fact,[b] Excluding it from Nigerian movies [/b]will not be portraying the yoruba culture in its entirety.

@olumide7,

No one is talking about exclusion here! We just want a limited version of it. Don't want our kids to grow up and be part of the babalawo struggle.

Imagine I stepped on your toe without tendering an apology, would you because of your knowledge of their existence and help seek their advice on what to do to me? Sometimes, common sense do prevail!

Behind bobo:
I think the poster is right,i m yoruba and sometimes enjoy yoruba films because of their reasonable storylines but mennnnn why do 90% of  the films have diabolical scenes which are unusually prolonged.I once watched one yoruba film where pastors where praying for a sick child and a witch appeared and told everyone present that without her healing the child,all their prayers will be in vain as she was the one that made the child sick.The witch then went ahead to heal the child and the pastors left(after sweating and calling the name"Jesus" a million times).Whats the message in that?that a witch can heal when Jesus failed?

Thank you so much @Behind bobo for coming out here to also tell us your concern. I think people are getting my post twisted. I never said I hate or don't like Yoruba Movies, what I don't like as you mentioned earlier is the 90% of the diabolical scenes and the portrayal of other people's faith as been inferior or rather irrelevant.

~Sauron~:
You are a FIRST CLASS IDIOT.
That is ALL.

I see no reason why you should call me names @Sauron. We should all learn to be more tolerant and patient in our dealings with people.

Felibaby:
@bee444 : You actually have a point with your post but you spoilt it for me with your statement that there is no difference btw the babalawo's and the C&S church. That is a sweeping statement and should not be. Just a word for you, DO NOT JUDGE SO THAT YOU WILL NOT BE JUDGED.

@Felibaby,

I have actually retracted those words and do apologize for putting it up there in the first place.

igbonla:
Ignorance is a disease! Unfortunately, the poster cannot be educated on this thread and I don't even have the time.

Don't wanna call u ignorant @igbonla. I am of the opinion that the use of babalawo in almost all the Yoruba films should be limited.

Some people don't just like criticism.