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My account balance would increase, and my Church would then rely solely on the true word of God and stop enriching themselves through the tithe compulsion thing. Pastors would then return back to the true origin of Christianity and stop this madness of making money through their sheep's. Church offering would then be used to pay for Church expenses and Pastors salary. This would then humble the so-called Pastors and stop them from flaunting their jets, luxury cars, armani suits etc. |
Give her the problem back, na by force to receive one? On a more serious note, talk to her, and if she refuses to listen, start eating out. Her head go correct that time. My suggestion has been for long tested and proven to be the best solution for a more problematic wife like yours!!! |
Enigma:I think you're a bit ignorant here. If Jesus is the only begotten son of God, what about you and I? What's the significance of being born again? Jesus wasn't begotten until he was baptised, like-wise you and I. As soon as we receive that holy spirit and got baptised, we can boldly say we are the begotten son/daughter of God. I want to see the places in the Bible where it says Jesus is not only God, but GOD Almighty. |
onc4all:That's why the Queen of England is honoured and worshipped just like Mary. And why call Mary the mother of God? Now I understand, at least no one as ever said she's the mother of the Almighty GOD. Now, the difference, Jesus is god over the Church while GOD is the maker of Jesus and you and I. I am a god over my enemies and a god over all things that GOD has put under my control. "ye are gods and all of you are the children of the most high, " Jesus never claimed to be God Almighty, but was in a nature of God and thought it robbery to compare himself as God (Philippians 2:6). The Bible says we were created out of God's image and likeness, and if so, we posses the true nature of that God. Jesus was sent by God to fulfil a mission, period. |
~Lady~:@Lady and @Onc4all, I know it is quiet understandable that you guys must defend your beliefs, but what I would have you do is to listen to some of the posts here and decide on the pros and cons. As a Christian, I only know the relevance of Mary through the birth of Jesus, nothing more. She's no more of importance than Peter, Paul, Silas and the great men of the Bible. All these people were mentioned so that they could be a perfect example for us. As to the issue of Mary, She was blessed and favoured by God as an example of things to come, so that those (women) who obey God as Mary did would receive same blessing and favour from God. She was an example of how a true Christian mother should be, nothing more, like-wise Paul, Peter and the rest. To the issue of Jesus being God, this is a total misconception and misinterpretation of the Bible that has for so long been perpetuated by some so-called Christian sect. What has GOD got to prove by coming in a form of a man? Why would GOD come to earth to show HIMSELF to people? Does Jesus's miracles and powers confirmed him as the ALMIGHTY GOD? What about the miracles Elijah and Elisha performed before the inception of Jesus Christ? All these questions are hypothetical by nature and should only be answered if you don't understand why Jesus came to earth? Study your Bible girls and you'd see that Jesus was never referred to as GOD or LORD, but as Lord. Notice the small letters from the word Lord? This refers to you and I. Anything you have control over, you are the Lord to that thing. Jesus was and is the Lord over the Church, and GOD is LORD over Jesus and over all living creature. Don't be ignorant and compare these two. Read revelation and the letters to the Corinthian Church. |
maddock:I've seen a lot of people who pay tithe but are still troubled. My point, paying tithe does not have anything to do with spiritualism, but instead, your understanding of the word of God comes first. The question is, Is there a conflict between Malachi 3:10, 2 Corinth. 9:7, Romans 10:4 and Mathew 23:23? Probably not! Let me break it down, people! Many, but not all old testament requirements were done away with the moment the curtain was torn in two. The principle of freewill offering (2 Corin. 9:7) is the only principle of giving mentioned in the new testament. Interestingly, it is also mentioned a number of times in the Old Testament as well - specifically in relation to the offering for the Tabernacle in Exodus 35 into 36v7. They were so willing they had to be told to stop. Freewill is the giving of the heart, not compulsion. Giving of our everything at will to God is the principle to which the new testament was born, not the tithe. The problem with tithe is, people (Pastors) wants to make it an obligation rather than a joy. Further to this, anything that is of compulsion (except the ten commandment) is law. And as new generation Christians, we are no longer under the law. However, as to the issue of Mathew 23:23, Jesus never commanded anyone to pay tithe, but hypothetically, scornfully lambasted the scribes and Pharisees for being hypocrites for claiming to pay tithe. Jesus's emphasis on that verse of scripture was on justice, mercy and faith, not tithe. |
tpia.:That [b]was [/b]then bro. "Therefore if any man be in Christ, " (2 Corinthians 5:17) |
tpia.:Who told you I don't have Jesus? A typical Nigerian! |
Woke4all:This one pass lucky my brother, na God save me o |
jidobaba:What a pathetic response from you @jidobaba. How on earth could you say that? It was a very painful experience for me u know. I wish you well sha |
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What more can I say, huh, well, I pray this will never happen to you or anyone that is closest to you IJN. I was a sharing a flat with Korede and her husband not too long ago when I noticed something. Korede has a beautiful sister called Mummy Sade, an hair stylist. She was in her mid thirties and Sade was 4 as of that time. Mummy Sade is the most beautiful light skinned Nigerian woman have ever seen. She frequent her sister's, and later,I was told she's got an Hair Salon not too far from where I live. Although I was relatively too young for her but I just couldn't resist her charming beauty. We became acquainted and she later made me her errand boy. From then on, Korede's attitude toward me changed dramatically. I was so insensitive of her sudden change of behaviour and couldn't read any meaning to it. Few weeks later, Mummy Sade started showering me with gifts and most times sending her apprentice's to bring food to my house. I was loving every bit of it and never knew I was digging an early grave for myself. Then, loo ba sele o, she invited me over to house one friday evening. We did IT sha that day. All of a sudden, IT became more frequent and frequent became every day. Before meeting Mummy Sade, I was seeing Mary ; my GF from college. I started seeing less of Mary and More of this woman. Korede entered my room and told me she's aware of what's going on btwn me and her sister and warned me to desist from such evil act, I turned the deaf ear o. oh, for the record, Mummy Sade was a lone parent! Mummy Sade then invited me out to meet someone special to her. WE travelled on a very rough road leading to a village on the out-skirt of the town. We met this man (probably in his 50's), and we were invited in. Few minutes later, we were on our way back home. Never knew what happened that way. It doesn't make sense to me though to come all the way just to say hi to this old man. While at Mama Sade's house that same day, we made love and she told me to use her wrapper to clean myself up, I obliged to that without reading any meaning to it. Few days later, Mary walked in and started complaining about my scarcity. I tried making love to her, but for where! Each time I tried getting in, the thing go just drop like wall street shares. I told Mary maybe It was because I was stressed up. The following day, we tried it, same thing. We tried and tried and tried, the thing no work o. I went back to Mummy Sade's house on the 3rd day of the incident, there we go; gbannnnn, it worked! I ran back to Mary, It did not work. After two weeks, Mary left me as I was unable to perform my manly duty. I had broke up with Mabel before I met Mary, but after the incident, I went back to Mabel and she accepted me back. We tried making love again, but no thing happen o. I then told Mabel to give me time. Throughout these period, I never confronted Mummy Sade for what was happening in my life, I couldn't have imagined her beeing the source to my problem. Five months past, I was still impotent to my Girl friends but potent to Mummy Sade. Then My Dad started noticing my muddy state and my brother too. I always come up with excuses. Then I decided to go for a Yoruba girl thinking that would solve my problem. I met Mulikat few weeks later (now six months of impotency), and on the D-day, no show again. Then I became sick. My brother then went to confront this woman, but she denied any wrong doing. Ifeanyi and Niyi are my friends and I ran to them before I die. Ifeanyi said he knew all along what was going on but had kept his quiet. Ify had confronted Mummy Sade without letting me know, but she told him I was her cousin and nothing was going on btwn us. Few minutes after telling Ify my story, he went into his store and brought out a black nylon bag containing salt. He instructed me to bath with it and drink of it too. I did as I was told. He then told me to invite Mabel to over. Mabel came few hours later, and, and, and, and, WE DID IT. Just to be very sure, I invited Mulikat over, It went through o (oo je lo walahi). I was so ecstatic and joyous. I confronted Mummy Sade with what she did, she still denied it but was almost hesitant. She gave in after much pressure and just kept looking at me. I ran 4-40 to my house and relocated to a different area. Since that day, I have swore never to date someone that is more aged than me. My life story people! |
ukotmi:The highlighted school of ministry is an arm of Christ Embassy Church, and those Pastors that comes there are still under him. Abegi leave story. You have said it all my dear. Pastor Chris used to do person-to=person ministry before abi, what happened to now? Why is he so sceptical about other Churches? Not judging him o, but I think Jesus would have loved him to break the stereotype preaching and extend such to all Churches. |
mabell:So Jesus sat at the comfort of his house and preached abi? So the best thing to do now is to only minister to his own members, what happens to other ministries that wants him to come over? Abi he doesn't want other Pastors to know something about him ni? I know you can justify his reasons to not going to other Churches o, but abegi make una fear God and ask yourself this simple question; "how come our Pastor is the only Pastor in the world that doesn't like preaching in other Churches? I'm not against him o, don't get me wrong. I think he's a fine Pastor. |
I guess so @londoner. I went to see that film at the IndigO2 while I was in London. It was different to the usual traditional trends of films I've seen before. Though, It lacked picture quality, I however did enjoyed it. Well done to him sha[quote][/quote] |
It's 71% of Nigeria Hausa Muslim, the Yoruba Muslims are not counted as Muslims by the hausa's (they're too liberal) And the Yoruba Muslims would never support such, except some minor few from ILORIN (they're gambari themselves). This research is not new, we know what the Hausa's are like. |
You cannot be a ROMANCE actor and win the 'Actor of the year award'. That's just so appalling! You have to be an all rounder. Don't get me wrong, he's a good actor, but not that great. He uses mellifluous voices and chooses his words[b] too carefully[/b] in almost all his films (unlike Bob manuel Ndukwe, a very true actor) and they're all identical. You could almost predict the end of most of his movies, no suspense at all. I think the award should have gone to this guy, oh i forgot his name now; not that tall, short, fair, and have this guy that looks just like him, just that his a bit taller. |
Hah, this is just a reap off o! So this means when someone is due to apply for Indefinite leave to remain, they first have to apply for a 12 month temporary leave, then another 12 month of probational leave, then finally the Indefinite leave. So after waiting for 5 years to apply for Indefinite (thats not enough, abi), I'll now need to wait for additional 3 years to apply for ILR, making up to 8 years altogether. And that means someone will have to pay more money during the stages. I no blame them o, Na condition make crayfish bend o |
Zodiac61:I dare not come on this forum and pick up argument with people I don't know personally. I believe you're entitle to your own opinion. Your understanding and perception of the Bible is not the same as mine. I'm not saying you have to be a theologist or a bible scholar before you can digest the bible, but wisdom and intellect is needed here before coming to conclusion. Does these scriptures quoted here sound like my own version of the bible? or what part of the text don't you guys understand? Ex 22: 16-17" If a man seduces a virgin who is not engaged, and lies with her, he must pay a dowry for her to be his wife. If her father absolutely refuses to give her to him, he shall pay money equal to the dowry for virgins." Also in Deuteronomy 22: 28-29, it say, "If a man seduces a virgin who is not engaged, and lies with her forcefully,and they are found out, he must pay a dowry of fifty shekel to her father in order for her to be his wife, he shall not be permitted to divorce her all his life" Now, the Exodus passage above is the only one of the two verses in the bible that directly deals with pre-marital intimacy. Points to note, neither the guy nor the woman in the Exodus verse is rebuked or punished for the sin (compare to deut 22). The man is required to seek marriage immediately after fornicating with the girl(in those days, girls were called virgins). The Bible makes us to understand that even if the girls father refuses you her hand in married, you're still bound to pay the dowry. After this, every punishment or sin against you is totally non-existence. Deut 22: 28-29 case is different to that of the Exodus 22 in that it involves despoil and not a consensual pre-marital intimacy. In this scenario, the man that commit such crime must take the woman into his wife and a chance to divorce is totally against the law. * Only when a man despoil a virgin that is engaged should that man be stoned to death. The woman is also stoned to death if only she did not cry for help when the guy is despoiling her (Deut. 22:23-25) Lets not dwell on this but rather seek a way forward to avoiding a repeat occurrence. What I'm saying here is, If you found yourself fornicating often, then it has to be with the person you're willing to marry. But to be on a more neutral and guiltless state, I'd advise you rather abstain from such until you're married. I would not recommend help from no one, even from your Pastor, but rather ask you to have a personal conversation with God regarding your issue, and let God take it on from there. |
karo93:Stop quoting out of context my lil bro. The Verse you just quoted was actually talking about virgins that lied to their new husband about their virgin status. If a girl was dis-virgin before getting married and refused to let her husband-to-be know of this before the wedding, then such girl would be taken to the city where men would then stone her to death (this is called playing the harlot) The verses before Deut 22:21 talks about what you must do when you sleep with a virgin or someone that is not married. Pls go and study your Bible very well. |
Image123:You're right bro, but I'd appreciate if you let us know your view on the topic. |
[quote author=AYODEJI4LOVE link=topic=426896.msg5887976#msg5887976 date=1271209457][/quote]@AYODEJI4LOVE I believe you're one of those Nigerian Church goers that lack understanding of the Bible but instead believe every words of your pastor without studying the scripture. I would not want to debate or have any argument with you but instead lecture you. I never said we have the right to commit sin nor do I intend to encourage people to fornicate. Pre-marital intimacy or fornication as you would call it, is primarily our genetic mandate to mate and that is reflected in our sexual desire. What we should now do is to separate the biological/evolutionary drivers of fornication from cultural and religion. In the OT, according to Ex 22: 16-17" If a man seduces a virgin who is not engaged, and lies with her, he must pay a dowry for her to be his wife. If her father absolutely refuses to give her to him, he shall pay money equal to the dowry for virgins." Also in Deuteronomy 22: 28-29, it say, "If a man seduces a virgin who is not engaged, and lies with her, he must pay a dowry for her to be his wife. If her father absolutely refuses to give her to him, he shall pay money equal to the dowry for virgins." Now, the Exodus passage above is the only one of the two verses in the bible that directly deals with pre-marital intimacy. Points to note, neither the guy nor the woman in the Exodus verse is rebuked or punished for the sin (compare to deut 22). The man is required to seek marriage immediately after fornicating with the girl(in those days, most girls were called virgins). The Bible makes us to understand that even if the girls father refuses you her hand in married, you're still bound to pay the dowry. After this, every punishment or sin against you is totally non-existence. Deut 22: 28-29 case is different to that of the Exodus 22 in that it involves despoil and not a consensual pre-marital intimacy. In this scenario, the man that commit such crime must take the woman into his wife and a chance to divorce is totally against the law. *The despoil of married woman carries the death penalty. In Deut 20:10, it clearly states that if a man desires a wife, all he has to do is to go out and get a woman and sleeps with her, if she's found pleasing, he has the option to marry her or send her away as long as he fulfils the conditions i.e paying the girl's father. In every case of pre-marital intimacy in the Bible, there is no punishment for the sexual act other than the compensation paid to the father of the girl. There are a lot of repressive teachings going on out there based on repressive Christian traditions of which I believe are done out of ignorance and with no biblical basis. Every book of the NT was specifically written for some sections of the Christians in those days. Some of them still applies to us today and some of them don't. |
karo93:let me ask you this, what was Jesus's commandments before he left for heaven? Don't confuse Jesus's saying and God's saying, ok. Ask yourself this, why did God gave Moses the ten commandments? Why did Jesus preached love instead of holiness? Pls answer these questions |
Hey People and @Poster! Most of us contributing to this thread are hypocrites and should be totally ashamed of ourselves. I believe this is the most sensitive and most important topic not only in this forum but in the entire Christian circle. A lot of Preachers tend to shy away from the same topic and only quote scriptures to justify themselves. Almost 80% of our single Christians fornicate. The truth is bitter, isn't it? The Bible said a lot about fornication and the remedy to such, yet, even good Christians and long time believers falls to this natural but controversial act. The problem of fornication is far more widespread than people want to admit. If you're single and you don't fornicate, then thank God for your life. But remember, that doesn't make you a any special or does it confirm the level of God's grace in your life as being superior to others. Just that most times, people who don't fornicate tend to be boring and live a non-social life. God's grace shouldn't be neglected as well. I have well observed that whenever this kind of topic surfaces, almost everyone are quick to quoting the Bible and reiterating what the Bible says about fornication. Mind you, these so-called hypocritical temptation-prone so-called Christians also fornicates in the private. Maybe I'm saying things from the realist point of view and don't want to be drawn into what Paul said in the bible; although, we operate from the Bible. If quoting of the Bible is what every body seems to be doing to support or buttress their arguments, then I'm ready to also quote from the same Bible to argue that God is not concern or mad about the state of my fornication, but rather please with me because I believe in HIM. Conclusion, I don't support and neither do I encourage fornication, but If you found yourself in such situation, don't condemn yourself brother, but rather continue with the way you've been serving your God before your fornication state. After-all, "HE remembereth we're flesh and made from the dust". Shalom |
masido:(Genesis 38:9) - "And Onan knew that the offspring would not be his; so it came about that when he went in to his brother’s wife, he wasted his seed (semen) on the ground, in order not to give offspring to his brother." * God killed Onan not because he wasted the seed but because he refused to obey God's instruction! Do we now say spilling of seed is or is not a sin? This is a hypothetical question we should ask ourselves. What if the bible never covered every area of sin, who then decide if spilling of seed is or is not a sin? Although the Bible says our body is the temple of God (1 Corint 6:19), what difference does it make if you spill your seed or put it into wife, spilling is spilling isn't it? Is spilling adultery or fornication? if not , then spilling doesn't belong to that category. If yes, what happened to the other partner? Before someone could be called a fornicator or fall into adultery, there has to be two party involved. The Bible does not specifically condemn masturbation, nor does the Bible specifically condone it. Now to the intellectual part, biologically and scientifically proven, spilling is part of the healthy circle a guy or man has to go through. Different studies have found that spilling is frequent in humans. Alfred Kinsey's 1950's studies on US population have shown that 92% of men and 62% of women have masturbated during their lifespan. Similar results have been found in a 2007 British national probability survey. It was found that, between individuals aged 16 to 44, 95% of men and 71% of women spills at some point in their lives. 73% of men and 37% of women reported spilling in the four weeks before their interview, while 53% of men and 18% of women reported spilling in the previous seven days. In 2009, the U.K. Government joined Holland and other European nations in encouraging teens to masturbate at least daily. An orgasm was defined as a right in its health pamphlet. This was done in response to data and experience from the other EU member states to reduce teen pregnancy and STIs (STDs), and to promote healthy habits. The conclusion- Jesus tells us not to look at people lustfully as that would be counted adultery. So does that mean looking at pornographic images and watching adult films part of the lust Jesus was talking about? Ponder on that people! |
osai27:(Genesis 38:9) - "And Onan knew that the offspring would not be his; so it came about that when he went in to his brother’s wife, he wasted his seed (semen) on the ground, in order not to give offspring to his brother." * God killed Onan not because he wasted the seed but because he refused to obey God's instruction! Do we now say spilling of seed is or is not a sin? This is a hypothetical question we should ask ourselves. What if the bible never covered every area of sin, who then decide if spilling of seed is or is not a sin? Although the Bible says our body is the temple of God (1 Corint 6:19), what difference does it make if you spill your seed or put it into wife, spilling is spilling isn't it? Is spilling adultery or fornication? if not , then spilling doesn't belong to that category. If yes, what happened to the other partner? Before someone could be called a fornicator or fall into adultery, there has to be two party involved. The Bible does not specifically condemn masturbation, nor does the Bible specifically condone it. Now to the intellectual part, biologically and scientifically proven, spilling is part of the healthy circle a guy or man has to go through. Different studies have found that spilling is frequent in humans. Alfred Kinsey's 1950's studies on US population have shown that 92% of men and 62% of women have masturbated during their lifespan. Similar results have been found in a 2007 British national probability survey. It was found that, between individuals aged 16 to 44, 95% of men and 71% of women spills at some point in their lives. 73% of men and 37% of women reported spilling in the four weeks before their interview, while 53% of men and 18% of women reported spilling in the previous seven days. In 2009, the U.K. Government joined Holland and other European nations in encouraging teens to masturbate at least daily. An orgasm was defined as a right in its health pamphlet. This was done in response to data and experience from the other EU member states to reduce teen pregnancy and STIs (STDs), and to promote healthy habits. The conclusion- Jesus tells us not to look at people lustfully as that would be counted adultery. So does that mean looking at pornographic images and watching adult films part of the lust Jesus was talking about? Ponder on that people! |
[img][/img] Me on the left, Agbani on the right recently, just kidding o, no be me dey on the left o. Agbani is the one on the right. Don't understand what happened to her sha
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[img][/img] Agbani recently
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[img][/img] Agbani in 2009,
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[img][/img] Agbani in 2001,
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On a more serious note, talk to her, and if she refuses to listen, start eating out. Her head go correct that time.