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Whatever mistakes Justwise made by deleting posts was just a knock-on effect of the criticism he received for threatening to ban Bellong. Justwise and Bellong had a private chat which these critics weren't privy to. So, if the admin, based on the conversation he had decided to go ahead and ban Bellong, why is that too difficult to respect?

@Goodmemory,

This is your comment on the DIY thread. I am disappointed that you can make an assumption for a fact. In addition, you made hasty conclusion based on a one-sided story. I thought, fair hearing entails that the other party be given an opportunity to present his position before a verdict is passed.


To set the record straight, for a start, I NEVER HAD ANY PRIVATE CHAT WITH THE MODERATOR. Where you got that from, I can't say.

This is my side of the story to put things in perspective as you have crucified me to have flouted rules and deserved a punishment.

Few days ago, I logged on to Nairaland and saw Justwise has posted in the thread accusing me of turning the thread to my personal business among other accusations. He asked that I remove the ad in my signature which he claimed violates rule number 6 (I will address his false interpretation of the rule later). Knowing who he is and I was not ready to engage him in any discussion, I attempted removing the ad in my signature immediately I read his comment but I discovered that he already banned me and I couldn't edit my profile because it greys out. I also couldn't post in any section on the forum like now, so I couldn't let him know that the ban prevents me from editing my signature.

After several tries with no success, I gave up on editing the profile. Thereafter, I had a discussion with Bnimz explaining why I couldn't edit the signature. Bnimz informed Justwise on the Living in Australia thread because he had removed the DIY thread. Despite explanation, Justwise insisted that it is possible and I have to do it before the thread can be released or ban lifted. He didn't change his rigid position until Bnimz volunteered to be banned to test his claim. Bnimz was unable to edit his signature too making my claim true contrary to what Justwise wanted people to believe. It was after that he lifted the ban.

Bnimz informed me that the ban has been lifted, I logged in, edited the signature immediately to remove the ad. After removing the ad, I addressed Justwise false accusation and character assassination against me. He accused me of collecting money from people on the thread before answering their questions. He accused me of turning the thread to my personal business and that I refused to carry out his instructions. I put only one challenge to him. I asked him to point out ONLY ONE PERSON, I collected money from on the thread before I answered his questions. The challenge is to just point out one person I charged on the thread but he hid my post and went ahead to ban me again till 2021 like he did previously. In the post, I also point out my observation about the skills he lacks which will be useful for him in life. I finally addressed the ad accusation based on Nairaland rules.

In all these, I don't understand what I did wrong to justify Justwise's personal attacks against my person calling me a not straightforward person. I have not had any personal dealings with you neither have I exchanged any emails with you. To conclude I am not a straightforward person is way beyond your boundary and it is slanderous. Doing your job as a moderator doesn't come with the right to accuse people falsely or assassinate their character. If you were objective and sincere with what you did, you should have left the only post I made on this matter. You hid the post but went ahead to tell lies about the turn of events knowing well that I had no opportunity to present my version which is verifiable.

My challenge still stands, please name just one person that I collected money from. If you don't or can't, you owe me an apology. I will not address your handling of this issue because you have shown to be not capable of engaging in logical and intellectual discussion.


To address the supposed rule flouted. There are 22 rules governing operations on Nairaland. These rules are not specific to a section, they are sitewide rules.

Rule no 6 states: "6. Don't post adverts or affiliate links outside the areas where adverts are explicitly allowed."
This rule 6 does not exist in isolation, you need to read subsequent rules to under the "explicitly allowed" areas for ads. The rule also shows that free ads are allowed in certain areas.

Rule no 12 states -
"12. Don't insert signatures into your posts. Instead, add the desired signature to your profile."

The rule clearly states "Desired Signature". I never posted ads in the wrong areas but I chose my desired signature which is protected by Nairaland rules but Justwise took offence with my signature. I didn't not post an advert on the thread and I wouldn't because I understand the rules and I am always for upholding the rules. Nowhere in the 22 rules says anything against ad in the signature. Reading through all sections on Nairaland including the travel, thousands of people have ads in their signature and they have not been banned by mods or supermods to show they didn't violate any rule. People get banned because they post advert in comments and wrong threads. Saying I violated a rule is uncalled for. Despite this, I agreed to remove the ad from my signature which I did but it wasn't enough for him but to attack my person.

I think it is more than the supposed broken rules. If you have anything against me, you should be able to address it than hiding behind a rule to attack my character.

I believe no one is indispensable and I have never acted or make people believe I am indispensable. I am confident that the thread will move on without me as it was before me. However, I believe credit should be given where it is deserved. To some, the best way for Justwise to go about this issue is to attack my personality, ban me without giving me opportunity to fair hearing and also to talk down on people with contrary opinion. If I didn't know about the rules, the best option is to give an opportunity for me to correct the error or mistake and not just pass a verdict in addition with derogatory comments and character assassination. It is pathetic to say the least.

I still maintain my position, I don't care if I am banned, but I do care if he removed the thread. The thread doesn't belong to me. It is a collective efforts of different people who have contributed their personal experiences. Deleting a thread because of the alleged offence of one person is taking decision too far. As it is, part 1 of the thread is still hidden which shouldn't be so. I will make it clear, the thread doesn't belong to me, it belongs to every single person that contributed on it, so you have no right to remove the thread.

This is my position. I have many things to say but Will keep them to myself.

I am still banned from posting in the travel section which is why I am putting the post here. I need to set the record straight against all the accusations, assumptions and derogatory opinions.

CC:

Bnimz
Funso
Mamajazz
Alphadoor
Ugsams
iammiracle1
Bamz
Sweetg
Embassy4u
Catchdwind4rmkd
Dodirtslikeworms
Afosahid
Farnet
tomimy1
Victor 54
Akari01
Experience 4u
btsnm
Felixz01
Fatima04
Xkoba
Bogeyman007
Donpaulo44

These are all the monikers I can see that contributed to the story. The others are hidden.

Gandollaar:
He's my boyfriend...stay out of our beef.

Apologies

Gandollaar:
Sore kor, egbo nii. Olodo!

Haba.. correct him gently. Don't be toxic while correcting someone. We are not so learner of Christ.

@allegory,

Canada is your better option at this stage. All the occupations you listed require at least one year of experience for a positive assessment. In addition, except for spatial scientist, you will likely not get a state to nominate those occupations.

You can be the principal applicant for Canada and choose investment manager.

Goodluck.

@babazy90,

You can use your 6 months industrial training and final year thesis to write the CDR.

jefferson2019:
Please house I need your help on this.

Will I get a positive outcome if I asses a Cabler (Data and Telecommunication) considering my degree?

Why do you want to nominate cabler? Not on 189 list and only Northern Territory sponsors the occupation which is a long thing.

Look for another Closely related occupation on the list. However, if you want to go ahead, you will get a positive assessment as long as you can demonstrate your current experience is a cabler.

RichardRexs:
sir,i would love to join The DSS

You either apply at the State command in your state of origin or at the national headquarters in Abuja.

You can visit the state command in your current resident state and ask for information on the next recruitment. As soon as the recruitment info is out, apply through your state of origin or Abuja if you live in Abuja.

As usual with government agencies, there is man know man involvement. However, with the DSS, they have quota for merit. If you are very confident and know your onions, you should get through the interview.

Edet08:
Oga bellong I greet you sir... Hope to meet you when I eventually come over�

No worries bro... See you Down Under.

lyndaway:
Is it possible for someone to belong to cult and later quite? I need a sincere and Honest answer please no insult just want to clear some thoughts off my head

Yes, if you belong to a cult, you can quit. However, you need guidance and help from someone with wisdom to paddle the waters

There is always a way out, don't let anyone deceive you and let no one despise your youth.

Quit now when you have the time before it is too late.

kay2ice:
Oga Bellong, My PTE test is in two weeks, the person that filled the form erroneously picked study instead of PR as purpose of taking the exam, I want to ask if it has any effect?

You have nothing to worry about. They are interested in your scores not the purpose you fill in the form. The English test I used was written primarily for PhD admission.

FBS:
Watched the AFL grandfinal last season. Absolutely epic. Loved it.

You should try to watch the NRL, it is fun too.

I watch the NRL and Rugby league once a while, just not committed to it compared to the AFL. I don't watch rugby as much as footie. The clashing in rugby is scary.

FBS:
People in Perth, are you following the State Of Origin?

I don't watch Rugby. I follow the AFL though.

@MHBS,

You should have given this explanation the first time, I would have been able to make better judgement of your work experience but the limited information given and subsequent additional information made me skeptical. Now I understand, apologies for the initial error.

send an email to the address you did before in my signature. This time outline all your Work experience and qualifications in your CV.

If possible, include your husband's CV, he may be the better option as the principal applicant.

Baabu320:
bro please list these temporary visa ...

You will find them on this link

https://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/visas/getting-a-visa/visa-finder/work#

@Holutee,

Your first step is skills assessment with Engineer Australia.

chi50:
Thanks for your reassurance and prompt response.
I can go ahead with the letters as mentioned earlier then, right?

Yes, if you want to add them. No harm

chi50:
Age 30
English 20
Degree 15
Aus study 5.
State sponsorship 5. Total. 75

In the application, when asked for work experience in the past 10 years, I mentioned my Australian and Nigerian work experience. But marked as irrelevant as was not claiming points. I'm just trying to avoid CO contact as much as possible as that could cause further delay. I know I don't need to provide supporting documents, that's why I was surprised when this came up. Maybe they are changing the system.

You have nothing to worry about.

chi50:
@bellong,
Thank you for your response Sir, I'm very sure that I didn't claim any points, even during my skills assessment. My worry was because it came out as required docs before payment and so I could not leave it blank. I contacted DHA, and they said I should maybe write a cover letter stating the same and submit in its place. Apparently, this is a new thing now. I have employment offer letters from Nigeria, that's all, no payslips or reference.
My question is, should I submit these employment letters, as well as the cover letter?, and if so, should I then mention that I am not claiming points because I don't have enough docs for proof. I'm worried about submitting too much or too little information. Such a dilemma

How many points were you invited with and the breakdown?


The system automatically request for documents for experience and others. You discard what is not important to you and upload what is important. Generally, you don't need supporting evidence for what you are not claiming points for. However, some CO go beyond their job descriptions requesting for work experience. If you included in the application that you worked in Nigeria, you can include the offer letter, this is not compulsory and not necessary except you are claiming points for it.

@chi50,

If you didn't claim any work experience in the EOI, you have nothing to worry. Just discard it, it could be a system glitch.

If you made a mistake in claiming experience in the EOI, the best you can do is to withdraw the application and reapply.

ebere272:
Hello Oga bellong,

What's your advice, I can't find anyone with petroleum engineering assessment or invite.
Also, I saw online the invite is at 80 but I am only able to get 70 from my points.

What do you need help with?..

You can actually assess as a chemical engineer. There is strong relationship between chemical engineering and petroleum. Explore the aspect of chemical engineering in your CDR.

Otherwise, assess as a petroleum engineer and hope a state will start nominating it in the next financial year.

MHBS:
@bellong said I should nominate cafe and Restaurant manager. I need help not sure what to do at all.

I believe you already contacted us prior to coming here but gave different information. So, I am skeptical about taking it further due to the initial conflicting information you provided. If you read this thread and the previous one, you will find information on how to do everything.

edebra0406:
Hello Everyone,

I am interested in migrating to Australia, i saw my profession on the MLTSSL, but on checking with the assessment bodies,i noticed they have three different bodies. Therefore i will like to know if i can use any of the bodies.

Secondly, what is the required amount one most have?

Thirdly,must i write IELTS Academic before assessment?

Thank you all.

You have not provided any information to assist you. You can't hide details and expect people to perform magic in understanding your situation.

What is the occupation? I guess it is accountant from the numbers of the assessing authority you listed. Yes, you can use any of the three bodies

Each assessing body has her own criteria, there is no one size fits all.

There's no proof of fund required. However, for some state nomination, they require proof of fund in writing but usually not in evidence.

There has been a change to the requirements for psychologist. In the new method, registration is no longer compulsory for positive assessment for migration. However, to get a positive qualification assessment, you must have completed six years of study in Psychology. Meaning you must have MSc degree for the minimum. There are other requirements but with MSc, the other waters can be navigated.

@applepiepr,

Congratulations.. Wish you the best in your sojourn.

omololaglo:
please O, kindly help check this visa , is it real ? and if so, can it be change to working visa when the applicant get job over there

There is no enough information on the screenshot to help. The opening sentence is enough to suspect that you have been given Oluwole visa. How much did you pay the agent?

You can check the visa yourself through Vevo as written on the letter. Google Vevo, put the requested information and it will show you whether it is genuine or not.

gsalvatore:
@bellong and co i need feedback please.

To get 10 point, you must have at least

Listening: 24
Reading: 24
Writing: 27
Speaking: 23.

Your writing and speaking is below the expected score.