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paulGrundy:
No am not Gay.

honeychild:
Yooguyz you didn't live up to your promises o.....your recent posts have been confrontational, one sided and certainly not respectful.

why na?

Yooguyz:
Quite interesting that you believe in TB joshuas miracles.

BERNIMOORE: 5:42pm On Dec 08, 2011
THE ALLEDGED EVENT WAS EITHER PLANNED TO CREATE IMPRESSION in favour of TB JOSHUA or a calculated event to deceive lazy Nigerians who own bible but refuse to read and get true understanding but has been brainwashed to accept people like joshua to interpprete for them,or those who are desperately looking for miracle,but will be disappointed to receive nothing if not additional problem from joshua,Ask Yinka Ayefele,he knows him better,stop deceiving people here pls

paulGrundy:
^^^ funnily enough am not a JW, [size=16pt]was never a JW[/size] can never be a JW. How many times do I have to keep the record straight. If you don't agree with my points why don't you engage me in a respectful dialogue or better still ignore my posts?

I still love you with the love of God even though you hate me very much

God bless you

paulGrundy (m): 3:49pm On Sep 24

I am the author of jwfacts.com and here is my story:


I was raised [size=16pt]a Jehovah's Witness[/size] by loving parents.

Yooguyz: I tell you its real mark 16:15 works. [size=14pt]I went out on outreach last week and we meet this guy who said he had cancer and wanted us to pray 4 his healing he said that infact he was about to leave 4 his routine check up i was d one leading the group[/size] so we agreed on prayed i practised what i read in Mark16:15. When we prayed he said he felt nothing but i told him to have faith..(my faith isnt very ströng i must admit) just [size=14pt]today he called me i didnt know how he got my number and i had forgot about him.he told me after that day we prayed i began to feel better and symtoms were disappering a mind told him to go to 2 different clinics for test and results showd he was cancer free[/size]..infact we met this evening and he showed me his own doctors report which showed he was free..aparently the shocked doctor conducted a test on him.he was so excited..anyone who has had similar experience please share

joagbaje

I had series of miracles wrought in the name of Jesus . One was the case of leg ulcer for more than a year , doctors gave up on him. I just stretched my hand over the wet leg . I rebuked the spirit of ulcer to come out and pronounced him healed . Instantly the pain stopped but no physical changes yet. But after about a week , everything dried and he was wearing shoes . Jesus still does his things through his saints only if we have enough boldness to take the word for what it says and act on it.

paulGrundy:
Ok! Now I think am getting you.

Yooguyz 8:13am On Dec 23, 2012

I tell you its real mark 16:15 works. I went out on outreach last week and we meet this guy who said he had cancer and wanted us to pray 4 his healing he said that infact he was about to leave 4 his routine check up i was d one leading the group so we agreed on prayed i practised what i read in Mark16:15. When we prayed he said he felt nothing but i told him to have faith..(my faith isnt very ströng i must admit) just today he called me i didnt know how he got my number and i had forgot about him.he told me after that day we prayed i began to feel better and symtoms were disappering a mind told him to go to 2 different clinics for test and results showd he was cancer free..infact we met this evening and he showed me his own doctors report which showed he was free..aparently the shocked doctor conducted a test on him.he was so excited..anyone who has had similar experience please share

joagbaje
I had series of miracles wrought in the name of Jesus . One was the case of leg ulcer for more than a year , doctors gave up on him. I just stretched my hand over the wet leg . I rebuked the spirit of ulcer to come out and pronounced him healed . Instantly the pain stopped but no physical changes yet. But after about a week , everything dried and he was wearing shoes . Jesus still does his things through his saints only if we have enough boldness to take the word for what it says and act on it.

Candour:
Suddenly, you can no longer laugh as you used to do with your yooguyz moniker? https://www.nairaland.com/193649/truth-christ-embassy-healing-school/74#28008802

paulGrundy:
Yes you are right. But remember that you cannot get true information about JW's from JW's. Information maybe extreme right sided. Reminds me of my school days, when we were asked to write an essay about our selves, I wrote that I was Queen Elizabeths cousin and that I spent the holiday at Great britain. [size=14pt]Hehehe[/size]

Yooguyz:
[size=14pt]hehehe[/size]....lol...hahahaha. It is paining you abi! It pained you that someone got healed by God's power! Wel dis is small u havent seen anything yet! I only pray that the scale falls off your eyes! Who knows you may be the athiest i will be saved in NL who knows?

Yooguyz 9:39pm On Apr 19, 2013
@ op, there have been LOTS of miracles where amputees had their short hand or leg grow out by the power of God. I have seen some one had his arm stretched out instantly at the christ embassy healing school.
If you want to see more of such miracles google
"kenneth Hagin leg lengthening"

Candour:
Suddenly, you can no longer laugh as you used to do with your yooguyz moniker?

paulGrundy:
Yes you are right. But remember that you cannot get true information about JW's from JW's. Information maybe extreme right sided. Reminds me of my school days, when we were asked to write an essay about our selves, I wrote that I was Queen Elizabeths cousin and that I spent the holiday at Great britain. [size=14pt]Hehehe[/size]

Yooguyz:
[size=14pt]hehehe[/size]....lol...hahahaha. It is paining you abi! It pained you that someone got healed by God's power! Wel dis is small u havent seen anything yet! I only pray that the scale falls off your eyes! Who knows you may be the athiest i will be saved in NL who knows?

paulGrundy:
Whilst these are true, I think I understand the point you are trying to make, you are trying to say that their grieviances towards the watchtower would cause them to distort the truth, isn't it?



Yes you are right. But remember that you cannot get true information about JW's from JW's. Information maybe extreme right sided. Reminds me of my school days, when we were asked to write an essay about our selves, I wrote that I was Queen Elizabeths cousin and that I spent the holiday at Great britain. [size=14pt]Hehehe[/size]

The point is we tend to over emphasize our strenghts and downplay or ignore our weaknesses/errors altogether.

to know the truth, you have to investigate anything you hear, to see if those things be so

A simple man believes anything he hears, a wise man investigates what he hears. Jwfacts.com has a myraid of references and links that are easy to verify.

Yooguyz:
[size=14pt]hehehe[/size]....lol...hahahaha. It is paining you abi! It pained you that someone got healed by God's power! Wel dis is small u havent seen anything yet! I only pray that the scale falls off your eyes! Who knows you may be the athiest i will be saved in NL who knows?

dolphinheart:
Oh my! , thanks a lot .

BERNIMOORE:
https://www.nairaland.com/1990555/paulgrundy-nairaland-impersonator-yooguyz-not#27893883

samflexxy:
U be detective ni

R.a.pists Should Be Treated Respectfully During A Ra.pe--watchtower(1988061) by paulGrundy(m): 11:21pm On Nov 08

Yooguyz

Obviously another lie never said that, you read it in the post below

Yooguyz

:


Literally
translated "arsenokoitai" is a
"male-bedder." It is interesting to
note that during the time of
Martin Luther, [size=14pt]the word was
universally translated as
masturbators [/size]

Jesus, himself, never says one
word against homosexuality. If it
is the grave sin it is made out to
be, then you would think that
Jesus would have mentioned it.
In fact, [size=14pt]Jesus may have confirmed
that homosexuals are from birth
in Matthew 19:11[/size].

Jesus was proven right, [size=14pt]some
cannot accept that
homosexuality is normal and
natural from birth[/size]

yooguyz

The picture is obviously a passport not an application

[quote]Yooguyz

Suprisely he never provided evidence to show his claim he was not screaming 'forgery' 'forgery' in paulgrundys version of the thread, which I copied from.

https://www.nairaland.com/1939359/intl-passport-jw-past-presidents

If you through the passport you will observe that it has a stamp on itn which proves that it is authentic.

Let me speak for paulGrundy on this: poor guy

Don't you know that [size=14pt]oyinbo men who grew up in naija can speak pidgin english very well[/size]? I have one oyinbo man in my backyard that can speak pidgin wella

yooguyz aka paulgrundy impersonator Don't take any of his quotes seriously, he is a pathetic liar. Here he was calling me an atheist

Yooguyz

good evening op,
i have never paid tithe in my life and i don't intend on paying tithe but let those who do keep doing it, *in my mind* #deluded bunch of tithe paying folks# [size=14pt]I am a Caktholic christian but i dont believe in God, in fact religion is the opium of the masses[/size].
YOU can ATTACK me cos am used to attacks infact i'll welcome one so far it's sincere #but if i troll you with multiple id's eh?#
funny thing about me i don't even believe in the bible am quoting it's for gullible people
you know yourself

the next post on your same disclaimer thread concur with me and expose you as a crafty liar

and also advised you to deactivate your account

joeace2020

(m): 3:08pm On Sep 14 2014
I had to follow you guys down here and yooguys is a pathological liar.... and to actually think i thought someone was wrongly accusing you. You should bow your head in shame, apologize for your lifestyle of scam and hypocrisy and [size=14pt]deactivate your account[/size]

jared007: 8:11am On Sep 13th 2014 ....don't be silly winsomeX the pharisee. The gospel and d church is to convert a sinner and not a holier than thou hypocrate like u. Do not dwell on d past deeds of yooguyz. Do u know if he has repented? Yooguyz my advice is dat u change ur nairaland monicker.

Yooguyz

: On Sep 16, 2013

what i can say is am disappointed by the attitude displayed by so-called christians in this forum. Smh. Even after making my intentions clear, what i get in response is hate speech and a christian supporting hatred. What happened to John 13:35
" by this shall all men know that you are my DISCIPLES if ye have LOVE ONE to ANOTHER"
[size=14pt]no wonder many athiests call xtainity a hypocrital religion[/size]! Judging by the above scripture All i can say is we DON'T HAVE CHRISTIANS IN NAIRALAND! finito!

It seems like you forgot to add the fact that paulGrundy and yooguyz do not agree on homosexuality infact, paulgrundy is repulsed to homosexual practices.

https://www.nairaland.com/1976976/vine-said-homosexuality-not-sin

Bernimoore

3, funny enough he creates this thread and quoting himself to deceive people that he counsels himself about homosexuality https://www.nairaland.com/1976976/vine-said-homosexuality-not-sin

dolphinheart:
Your post (dated : less than two days ago)self service leads to homosexuality.

Watchtower posts (dated 38 to 41 years ago)
Unclean practices , such as self service , which can be a stepping stone to homosexualty, have been dealt with in a serious yet understanding way to help individuals keep clean and pure in jehovahs eyes.


Self service , can lead into homosexuality.




Conclusion: ur statement and the watchtower statement are different in wordings, idea, meaning and concept.

The conclusion an individual can reach from both statements are totally different. Bringing an x factor or other factors remaining constant with the use hypothetical situation to make an illustration does not in anyway merge the two statements.

Please let everyone reading your post know where u stand on the issue by the watchtower. Do not twist there statement with hypothesis but rather explain what ur view is on the statement by the watchtower.

If uou refuse to align your statements or post with the source of the post which according to you is the watchtower, ill be left to believe that you have an ulterior motive . And that motive is not to make people come to know about the unclean act of self service, but to make people think that the watchtower is making false statement , whereby it is you that is allocating false statement to them though your x factor hypothesis.

Ill still continue to think you have good intentions and will correct your post to align with the source of the post.

Yooguyz

https://www.nairaland.com/1422579/scan-passport-past-jehovahs-witnesses

PAULGRUNDY 'nairaland impersonator'

https://www.nairaland.com/1939359/intl-passport-jw-past-presidents

paulgrundy

Ok ok seen it, thanks for the correction

Yooguyz:
The word being translated to
"homosexual" in 1 Corithians 6,
and 1 Timothy 1 is
"arsenokoitai." This word does
not appear in Greek writings
prior to Paul's use of it in the NT.
Nobody knows for sure what
meaning Paul was trying to
convey by it's use. If the meaning
Paul wanted to convey was
homosexual, then he would have
used the word "paiderasste",
which was the term used at the
time for male homosexual. The
word "paiderasste" does not
appear in the Bible.
"Arsenokoitai" is made up of two
parts: "arsen" means "man";
"koitai" means "beds." Literally
translated "arsenokoitai" is a
"male-bedder." It is interesting to
note that during the time of
Martin Luther, the word was
universally translated as
masturbators untill the 20th
century.
Male-bedder has also been
interpreted to mean a male
prostitute. Which seems to me
would be much closer to it's
meaning than homosexual.
The Greek word being translated
as effeminate is "malakoi." The
word appears two other times in
the NT, both times being
translated as "soft." Taken in the
context of this passage some
believe it to actually mean "soft in
morals." Within it's context, that
meaning makes more sense than
it does as a descriptive of a
person's outward mannerisms.
Jesus, himself, never says one
word against homosexuality. If it
is the grave sin it is made out to
be, then you would think that
Jesus would have mentioned it.
In fact, Jesus may have confirmed
that homosexuals are from birth
in Matthew 19:11. The modern
meaning of the word eunuch is a
castrated male. However, in
ancient times it was a broad
term that included any man who
lacked sexual desire for women
for whatever reason. Hence, their
use as chamberlains or officers
in the Bible.
Jesus even states that not
everyone can accept this word. If
the ancient term "eunuch" did
indeed include homosexuals
(some surviving ancient Roman
literature points to this), then
Jesus was proven right, some
cannot accept that
homosexuality is normal and
natural from birth

paulGrundy:



So all the gra gra and [size=14pt]over sabi[/size] wey Mynd44 dey do na for nothing!

Am beginning to see sense in Yungwizzy's comment.

Charism:
Ok lemme help you out

ORIGINAL SAMPLE OF AMERICAN PASSPORT WITH OATH OF ALLIEGANCE

http://www.google.com/search?q=original+sample+of+american+passport+with+oath+of+allegiance&client=ms-rim&hl=en&channel=browser&tbm=isch&oq=original+sample+of+american+passport+with+oath+of+allegiance&gs_l=mobile-heirloom-serp.12...334.4849.0.9767.7.6.0.0.0.0.1258.2810.4-1j2j0j1.4.0....0...1c.1.34.mobile-heirloom-serp..4.3.2329.QoRrXqQbNos

It contains all the passports shown in the OP

Charism; What are you writing? @bolded. How does that relate to the thread? Was that written out of guilt trip?

paulGrundy:


Hello mr Charism,
This was the post I was expecting from you. In the US there no way you can obtain an international passport without signing an oath of allegiance. Although, as of 1972 the united states allowed for modification of certain clauses of the oath if a persons religion forbids the swearing if oath, but he must swear the oath anyway.


http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oath_of_Allegiance_(United_States)

The sample I provided, is exactely identical with the original passport. No alteration. You even just confirmed it yourself. Am glad you were able to see through the false facades and gimmickery. I do not think is appropriate for you to continue proving points to internet trolls.

Bernimoore

;Benedict_Arnold passport was not same with forged one you posted

if you can check it well as old as it was it was having a card number '5'

what is the passport card number or reg number on the passport of rutherford and knorr? failure to provide it shows clearly that it was forged and not traceable no wonder Honeychild will tell you that you behave like a child

Charism

; What are you writing? @bolded. How does that relate to the thread? Was that written out of guilt trip?

Charism

Am still yet to see the original sample of Rutherfords passport with you that has a card number

Charism:
I retract my initial statement features of the original document could not have been touched.

Original same of Rutherfords passport was even provided in google search along with several other specimens.

http://www.google.com/search?q=sample+of+american+passport+with+oath+of+allegiance&client=ms-rim&hl=en&channel=browser&prmd=ivns&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=pg88VNzCC8uvPK6kgeAG&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ


Moderators mynd44 please don't fall for one of BERNIMORE'S numerous pranks

@BERNIMORE you have failed again!!!!

paulGrundy:
Hello mr Charism,
This was the post I was expecting from you. In the US there no way you can obtain an international passport without signing an oath of allegiance. Although, as of 1972 the united states allowed for modification of certain clauses of the oath if a persons religion forbids the swearing if oath, but he must swear the oath anyway.


http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oath_of_Allegiance_(United_States)

The sample I provided, is exactely identical with the original passport. No alteration. You even just confirmed it yourself. Am glad you were able to see through the false facades and gimmickery. I do not think is appropriate for you to continue proving points to internet trolls.

Charism: Quote Post

@BERNIMORE, who are the “friends” you contacted? Did they provide you with the original copies of the passport?

If yes answer this question:

1. Does every american international passport have an oath of allegiance with which the recepiet is mandated to sign? Yes or no?

Sadly enough YOU HAVE BEEN SHOUTING FORGERY ALL THIS WHILE BUT YOU NEVER PROVIDED US WITH THE ORIGINAL PASSPORT!

I have gone through the links and samples you provided sadly enough, it didn't prove that the specimen is forged, its possible that some characteristics of the original documents were touched, for the purpose of highlighting some key features in the passport, but it does prove that anything is forged, afterall an american international passport has a place for oath of allegiance in which you are required to sign.

Shouting forgery won't cause the moderators to censor paulgrundy, it would only cause them to have a keen eye on his threads. All I see is a desperate man working so hard to silence watchtower critics.

Grundy! Nothing do you.