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Worksunlimited:
Something fishy is going down.. Something fishy..

I have noticed a trend, the moment Nigeria wants to leave or stop borrowing money, world Bank and UK will come against it.

However, when we are head deep in problematic occurrences and recession, World Bank and UK will come out with congratulatory and praise singing of the Nigerian economy..

Borrowing is not by force..... victim players and blame shifters everywhere

Rugaria:
I have never mentioned Lugard in any of the posts because I know like you rightly pointed out that Nigeria has had numerous opportunities to change course but refused.. I specifically talked about Britain as an imperial power. Essentially I was talking about the actions of Britain today, post independence, post Nigeria-Biafra war... Wasn't talking to about a man that died over a hundred years ago..

In business there's something called competitive advantage and comparative advantage.... Nigeria is not the only producer of crude oil. Boris Johnson has said by 2030 no 100% crude cars will be sold in UK. So you can see u r overvaluing your oil. They buy from other countries too....

Similarly Britain didn't want to be dependent on Africa for cocoa and they discovered it grows in Asia and started doing business there....

And is "our oil" really ours? Since the white man left has the oil money ever reached you? Let's think!

Rugaria:
Britain CREATED Nigeria. Thats the sad reality! It doesn't excuse our underachievements, but it sort of put things into a clearer perspective! Britain moulded this country, ruled it over half a century directly, handed over to their favorite slaves and has been pulling strings from afar ever since. As it regards influencing British politics, that's very possible. But most times, You just can't punch above your weight. Maybe if we did well administratively in building up this country, we can be in a position to influence politics in Britain. Some of her former colonies in Asia, like India or Pakistan can.. But it's a little different here. Personally, I believe that colonialism and neo-colonialism in Africa have always been tainted with base racism when compared to such acts elsewhere.. That's a story for another day shaaa

Wait so Luggard said Nigeria must now be called Nigeria and no body in the entire country opposed the new name? To be fair to Nigeria, Ojukwu opposed the Union which triggered a civil war but it was still Nigerians that fought against the break up of the Union that Luggard created. This makes any further blame of Luggard invalid. Let's think critically please.

Adakintroy:
trying to act tough and strong.

Conquest is a natural human behavior.
It was not consistent with Africa alone. England raided and conquered other European nation's. So did the romance..men with the biggest swords rules. The world has not always been a civilized place.

Up till now America is rulling because they have the biggest bomb. Yes the biggest nuclear warheads belongs to them. They can afford to invade Iraq..even though they did not find any destructive weapon, they were not sanction. How many other stuff like that do you think they pull off without your knowledge and got away..did I mention libya.

If you say we being rule over was our choice, was it the choice of the Jews that be slaughtered by Hitler or the choice of ghadafi to be killed like a dog in his own country.

Naive. Bullying is a human behavior. They still raid Egypt for their acheological wealth till this day. Can you go to Egypt to collect their knowledge. What about our benin arts.

There were no cameras to tell what went down back then. You don't want to know what will happen when you standing in the way of men who are hell bend on world dominance.

The question is why can't Africa enlarge their swords and develop their weapons?? I'm not someone that makes excuses - China has enlarged their swords without blaming the West while Nigeria is using it's swords on innocent protesters.

Adakintroy:
How have you idealogically rational people defend yourselves against being conquered by the ideologies of of the west yourselves. Since we are in the subject of conquest.

You are writing in their language, wearing their clothes. Your women even wear their hair on top of their head. and even you send your children as willing slave to them. Were is your own strength.

You show more docility than even the ones you previously mention.

Your comment though fair hasnt addressed the point. But thanks.

jesmond3945:
when they are using JV to collect 50 percent of oil wealth?

They pay for oil just like all other buyers!

jesmond3945:
but they are taking 50 percent of our oil wealth, let buhari nationalize our oil wealth, the next day NATO spies would murder him.

They are not taking any oil wealth. They are buying crude oil and cocoa just like other countries buy.

tweakdude1:
Anything from England is useless. I personally dont like English.

Always benefiting from bad govt.

Your bad government is your problem not theirs.

Adakintroy:
You proberbly the only third world nation comparing yourselves to a first world nation. No one else do that. Not the Europeans.They do not judge you as lacking potential, that's why they call you " developing nation". There is a lot pack into their success both accepted truth and denying ones.

Europe is a finish state of many conquest over centuries. Italy was a former empire, Soviet or Russian a Titan, Vikings sweden once dominated Europe. England was a world power that stretch as far as Africa. America fought many world wars and made several conquest. How many spoils of wars( materially and idealogically) do you think is part of their now "accumulated" wealth.

How many societies have you been able to steal from?
.even America blacks was taken from Africa. The fit strong black men taken to work for a different colony against their will. Slavery was consistent across all European/ Western society.

Who have you dominated?. Who have you stolen human/ idealogically as well as material wealth from?

Let's not compare things this way. Neither many of you know the history of the world to be making this arguments. Taking the last 60 yrs of your existence to compare with entities that have been existence for centuries, is like vaguely comparing a 16 yrs old with a fifty yrs old for life experiences.


To other Africans we are not performing badly. You must win your local leagues before you project yourselves to the international stage.

Your last paragraph proves it all. Nigeria/ Africa had existed between 1000 and 1700. Slavery picked up I believe in the 1800s so the black man was too docile against defending themselves from being conquered.

Adakintroy:
You are very naive. You proberbly the only third world nation comparing yourselves to a first world nation. They do not judge you as lacking potential, that's why they judge you " developing nation".

Europe is a finish state of many conquest over centuries. Italy was a former empire, Soviet or Russian a Titan, Vikings sweden once dominated Europe. England was a world power that stretch as far as Africa. America fought many world wars and made several conquest. How many spoils of wars( materially and idealogically) do you think is part of their now "accumulated" wealth.

How many societies have you been able to steal from.
.even America blacks was taken from Africa. The fit strong black men taken to work for a different colony against their will. Slavery was consistent across all European/ Western society.

Who have you dominated?. Who have you stolen human/ idealogically as well as material wealth from?

Let's not compare things this way. Neither many of you know the history of the world to be making this arguments. Taking the last 60 yrs of your existence to compare with entities that have been existence for centuries, is like vaguely comparing a 16 yrs old with a fifty yrs old for life experiences.

Africans love playing victim.... no one stole from Africa goods and services exchanged hands for slaves, or bater. Even if Africa was stolen from they were too dumb and inferior to defend themselves against the threats?

Rugaria:
Nobody is playing victim here and I'm not giving excuses! I'm just telling it as it's. This is evil. You're describing it as normal business practices. What's is normal about using your underhand links to prop-up rulers in your former colonies, then use their offices to impose business laws that favour your businesses at the expense of those countries? British oil companies activities in the Nigerian oil sector are basically not monitored because of the corrupt administrative set up in this country that the British helped to set up and defend vigorously at every turn. They get involved in our elections in very humiliating ways. Cameron almost holding a gun to Jonathan's head to hand over!

Now we're left with this eternaly blundering president and all they do, is to sit back in their country to laugh at us. They're utilizing their political tentacles in this country since the colonial days to wreck havoc! If our relationship with them can't be straightened up in a way that each other's interests are duly respected, they should be told to stay clear. The country has paid enough deus to Britain for all her "civil war help". It's now time to use Nigerias resources to help Nigerians. It's starting to look like there's nothing profoundly beneficial in our so-called "cordial relationship" with the British. Heads or tails, we are loosing..

Please why can't Nigeria use political tentacles to wreck havoc in UK? These days there are so many Nigerians in UK with many in leadership roles..... you are just blaming the British for your woes. Why can't Nigeria and Nigerians in UK pass laws to favor Nigeria. Don't forget ur the person migrating to their country and going to receive medical treatment there. Basically stop blaming others for your woes

Yus2020:
Helen Grant we know Apc evil government has paid you to vomit this nonsense all Nigerians are aware that British people are thiefs and so corrupt what we are facing today britian contribute to it

British people aren't thieves.... they came for trade..... the goods they are taking out of Nigeria isn't free.... they are paying for it.....

Adakintroy:
Truth is that we have been doing ok for our size.

Could we have done more. Yes. But we are not doing badly. Just being able to mentain peace is a stable form of advancement.

Not many nation's have this much diversities and terrorism challenges we have going.

We just saw the great American, how deeply divided they are irrespective of what their media display..we just saw how racist their own police can be, how flawed their electoral system is. How weak there health system can be. How unstable their politics can be. We all saw it. But we also saw how resilient they can be and how forward thinking they are.

We are not going to get everything right. But let's learn to celebrate our positives. Celebrate leaders when they do well and condenm them when they do poor. Talk is cheap and it's easy to criticize.

No one is going to defend your country for you. It's up to us to take a stand.

In my view, The youth have no business critizing their fathers without first postrating.

They may be bad, but if we are honest with ourselves we have shown potential that we can be worst. Honor your father's.

Criticize them only after you have greeted them. either way we look at it Life is hard.not Nigeria.

This is just consolation. Over 60% of population live in abject poverty... for 60 years post independence the country is doing badly.... misery loves company.... just because you saw a few glitches in the US system which is a federation of 52 countries you want to quickly latch onto that for company. A better comparison would be Nigeria and the US State of Texas, State of California, UK or Sweden.

Black men and saving face are like 1 and 2.

sageer1706:
Does it mean that the "said bodies" don't have relatives? Atleast they should be a report for missing persons.

In this same Nigeria that when you arrive at a police station, you have to pay money for anything meaningful to be done.... moreover everybody wants to conceal or subvert as much as possible in this case.....

Dapcity007:
So you are now women are not violent and they are not violent on their fellow women

You are SEXIST

John scratches Peters car in traffic, after a heated argument Peter shoots or knocks John dead on the spot - just for scratching his car.... then assassinations, murder of new boyfriends of an ex girlfriend.

But Mary scratches Samanthas car in traffic, Samantha pulls Marys hair and it pains her but that's it.... women don't send themselves assassins for the most part at least the ratio/rate is much lower.....in any case assassins that actually carry out the act are MEN.

I'm not sexist and name calling doesn't change the facts.

boman2014:
https://punchng.com/breaking-fg-faults-cnn-report-on-lekki-shootings-threatens-action/

CNN isn't on the same league with Nigerian media or indeed Nigerian government. I believe cnns journalism compared to anything coming out of Nigeria for the simple reason that lieing is part of Nigerian culture while it isn't the case in most other developed countries....

Dapcity007:
Dont be fooled by Leftist media CNN who seek to promote radicalized feminism , homosexuality, gay marriage, LGBTQ, abortion under the disguise of supporting End SARS look at their DJ Switch media talk and compare to their news of female celeb Adele divorce from her spouse, who after the divorce she will be feeding as their culture support female hypergamy creating broke emasculated men , my fellow youths let's not be deceived , the ends protest has been hijacked

Obviously its expected she married an emasculated Simp(a potential gay**t), because their society is so progressive and allows for female hypergamy hence the rise of weak nonvirile men , homosexual men, non binary men, She Male,Bisexual men,and other aborminations we see openly in these society,I commend her success as an individual , attaining these height in her music career based on her own merit but I'm against their society killing natural masculinity in their men via queerness,sexless,and genderless notion

The African Man is a natural redpiller , our conservative culture alone produces Alpha male,and also strong independent women who don't see men,babies,marriage,family as threats to achieving their personal set out objectives eg Mrs Folorusho Alakija(richest woman in Africa),Mrs Awoseka of first bank , Arch bishop Mrs Idahosa , Mrs Tara of house of Tara, Former senator Mrs Florence It's Giwa, Rev Mrs Adejumo, Aisha Yesufu of Endsars protest, Mrs Stella okoli the founder and current CEO of Emzor pharmaceutical,and a host of others

These compared to what the leftist american media who want to promote single motherhood,divorce,queerness and other progressive ideologies and we see in some of our female celebrities Toke Makiwa (divorce),Vanetta of big brother(divorce),Genevieve Nnaji (single mother),Waje(single mother ),INI Edo(divorce),Tiwa savage(divorce and single mother) and a host of others

Note I'm not against single women or men Apostle Paul was single,Jesus was single,Mother Theresa was single, you can be single and still fufil destiny, have peace of mind, attain happiness without needing the institution of marriage or family,what I'm against and I now see in some women is that they now see that marriage, family, .men, babies all as threats to attaining women right,and women independence hence the wave of radical feminism, toxic feminity ,progressivism,LGBTQ, genderless and queerness notion

An example is an NGO called feminist coalition that was headed by modern feminist kiki mordi and a host of other ladies who where one of the major sponsors and organizers of the End SARS protest specifically in Lekki toll gate protest under the guise of fighting for police reform,end to police brutality ,end to extra Judicial killing, were actual fighting for radical leftist ideologies like LGBTQ,abortion,gay marriage, etc which are against God and Nature, they were verified by progressive twitter owner Jack Dorsey to gain popularity and donation for these so called purpose

We are all complaining about Buhari today , his bad economic policies as we are seeing rise in fuel,food,transportion costs etc. poor govt educational policies keeping youths from school because of ASUU strike, dictatorial tendency by trying to ban social media,corruption by holding covid 19 pallatives ,etc. We see former pres Jonathan as a weak, incompetent , corrupt politician who could not handle the Boko Haram terrorist insurgency ,people don't see the reason for these was his refusal to accept progressive Obama Gay marriage policy,Jonathan not only refused these satanic leftist feminist ideology but also penalized homosexuals with new legislative bill of 13 yrs imprisonment of homosexuals,Obama punished Nigeria by refusing us the money and arms to fight these terrorist hence leading to countless loss of lives and properties,human displacement into IDP camps,violation of women body and right in the case of Chibok girls , and now these tribalist bigot incompetent president Buhari.

The African man isn't a natural redpiller. The African man embeds the highest levels of toxic masculinity among all males.

sageer1706:
But wait... I still never see the dead bodies of the massacre because most of those people that their pix circulated have all come out to say they alive.

The media reported that bodies were removed by military personnel.

Dapcity007:
Dont be fooled by Leftist media CNN who seek to promote radicalized feminism , homosexuality, gay marriage, LGBTQ, abortion under the disguise of supporting End SARS look at their DJ Switch media talk and compare to their news of female celeb Adele divorce from her spouse, who after the divorce she will be feeding as their culture support female hypergamy creating broke emasculated men , my fellow youths let's not be deceived , the ends protest has been hijacked

Obviously its expected she married an emasculated Simp(a potential gay**t), because their society is so progressive and allows for female hypergamy hence the rise of weak nonvirile men , homosexual men, non binary men, She Male,Bisexual men,and other aborminations we see openly in these society,I commend her success as an individual , attaining these height in her music career based on her own merit but I'm against their society killing natural masculinity in their men via queerness,sexless,and genderless notion

The African Man is a natural redpiller , our conservative culture alone produces Alpha male,and also strong independent women who don't see men,babies,marriage,family as threats to achieving their personal set out objectives eg Mrs Folorusho Alakija(richest woman in Africa),Mrs Awoseka of first bank , Arch bishop Mrs Idahosa , Mrs Tara of house of Tara, Former senator Mrs Florence It's Giwa, Rev Mrs Adejumo, Aisha Yesufu of Endsars protest, Mrs Stella okoli the founder and current CEO of Emzor pharmaceutical,and a host of others

These compared to what the leftist american media who want to promote single motherhood,divorce,queerness and other progressive ideologies and we see in some of our female celebrities Toke Makiwa (divorce),Vanetta of big brother(divorce),Genevieve Nnaji (single mother),Waje(single mother ),INI Edo(divorce),Tiwa savage(divorce and single mother) and a host of others

Note I'm not against single women or men Apostle Paul was single,Jesus was single,Mother Theresa was single, you can be single and still fufil destiny, have peace of mind, attain happiness without needing the institution of marriage or family,what I'm against and I now see in some women is that they now see that marriage, family, .men, babies all as threats to attaining women right,and women independence hence the wave of radical feminism, toxic feminity ,progressivism,LGBTQ, genderless and queerness notion

An example is an NGO called feminist coalition that was headed by modern feminist kiki mordi and a host of other ladies who where one of the major sponsors and organizers of the End SARS protest specifically in Lekki toll gate protest under the guise of fighting for police reform,end to police brutality ,end to extra Judicial killing, were actual fighting for radical leftist ideologies like LGBTQ,abortion,gay marriage, etc which are against God and Nature, they were verified by progressive twitter owner Jack Dorsey to gain popularity and donation for these so called purpose

We are all complaining about Buhari today , his bad economic policies as we are seeing rise in fuel,food,transportion costs etc. poor govt educational policies keeping youths from school because of ASUU strike, dictatorial tendency by trying to ban social media,corruption by holding covid 19 pallatives ,etc. We see former pres Jonathan as a weak, incompetent , corrupt politician who could not handle the Boko Haram terrorist insurgency ,people don't see the reason for these was his refusal to accept progressive Obama Gay marriage policy,Jonathan not only refused these satanic leftist feminist ideology but also penalized homosexuals with new legislative bill of 13 yrs imprisonment of homosexuals,Obama punished Nigeria by refusing us the money and arms to fight these terrorist hence leading to countless loss of lives and properties,human displacement into IDP camps,violation of women body and right in the case of Chibok girls , and now these tribalist bigot incompetent president Buhari.

Radicalised feminism is much better than male brutality and vicious male on male violence we see in the news everyday so cnn should keep promoting radicalised feminism....

sirdick17:
That is My point, they re reporting what the west want people to blv, not necessary d truth and my fear is their focus has ben on Nigeria since 2014

Pls is it Nigeria that is filled with chronic liars that you are to believe? Cnn has no reason to pull Nigeria down... United States and Europe buys crude oil and cocoa from Nigeria.... unrest cuts production and hikes the prices of commodities which is not in their best interest. Based on the history of lies in Nigeria I would believe cnn and their investigation. Also nite that the only thing bush got wrong was the Wmd but they were reportedly right (according to news media) that the country was oppressing civilians....

Myhusband:
I really feel ashamed if it's true that NA went to lekki with live bullets! It's sickening and barbaric if this is confirmed to be true


If DJ switch had been coherence with the numbers of people that died perhaps the world would have believe immediately, she should have reported and tell the world she can't precise with the figure that was drop dead


I think is height of insanity to bring in soldiers to lekki when riot police can easily handle this protesters

The black man is very wicked.....

[quote author=sirdick17 post=96207035][/quote]It wasn't cnn....they were only reporting what Bush was saying at the time....

Blasthem:
Caution: graphic images

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zf8QClIPWaU

CNN's Christiane Amanpour shared the video on her Twitter page and wrote:


https://twitter.com/camanpour/status/1329140636134596608?s=19

Read and watch the full report here https://www.nairaland.com/6263212/cnn-confirms-endsars-lekki-massacre

It took oyinbo institutions to release the video.... do you now see why Nigeria must remain colonized??

Felixalex:
Nigerian politician resign? This 2020 na really year of wonders

Maybe his salary was cut....

afroxyz:
European countries are also broke. Italy, Spain, Greecw and Portugal are heavily indebted. The ECB just approved another round of stimulus which would be given to member states. Earlier in the year they approved a $750bn bail out for European countries

So why isn't Nigeria receiving African Union stimulus?

abduljabbar4:
The only asslickers in Nigeria are you people. I dare you to mention the number of times northerners have come out to protest on behalf of corrupt politicians. Now compare that you losers, who have even protested for the release of Dasuki

It is only in southern Nigeria that a convicted thief would come out of jail and people will organize rallies to welcome him (James Ibori comes to mind)

Also, you are ignorant. kano, a state in a third world country is far better than Chicago in terms of security. The only problem is that when non-muslims engage in terrorism, it is called mass shooting and not terrorism. That's the only difference. Do you know how many people died in Edo due to cult clashes just yesterday? What do you call that?

Your argument about Chicago seems to hold little water..... the violence in Chicago and indeed across much of America is perpetrated by blacks.... the ones the whites seem to specialise in is mass shootings....

iwaeda:
https://tribuneonlineng.com/broke-fg-state-govts-scavenge-for-survival/amp/

Why are all African countries broke and most European States are not broke?? Coincidence??

viyon02:
Nigeria is under ocultic political system, where dark evil forces is in total control of our affairs: nothing good will come out it.

Blame shifting again and avoidance of responsibility.... despite all the churches and mosques in Nigeria?

ebukajay184:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vanguardngr.com/2020/11/police-nab-kidnapper-who-murdered-8-year-old-girl-despite-receiving-ransom/amp/

Do you see why we should all be feminists?

Awarewa:
Source: https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/11/18/africa/lagos-nigeria-lekki-toll-gate-feature-intl/index.html?__twitter_impression=true

They sold their own into slavery, establish oppressive dictatorships against their people, wickedness is an intrinsic part of their culture and they are the most egotistic of all the people's of the earth. These are Nigerian people.... this is black on black racism and wickedness against themselves. The negro shows little kindness to his neighbour..... Africa should be colonized again.. ...

Awarewa:
Source: https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/11/18/africa/lagos-nigeria-lekki-toll-gate-feature-intl/index.html?__twitter_impression=true

It took a white run entity (CNN) to tell the truth about the massacre - Nigeria should be recolonized asap!