₦airaland Forum

Minsk24:
Because u have nothing to say.... reality will remain reality irrespective of your emotions...
We need the west, we need the east, we must balance these two powers for our own interests...

The West needs Africa more than africa needs it....that's why they came to colonized....

Africa only needs itself....if doesn't need east nor west....

The west are poor savages which is why Africa should be careful when dealing with them.....

Minsk24:
Your 3rd point is very flawed, apart from south Africa, Zimbabwe Namibia and Algeria, there was no demography change in any African colony of the Europeans...
The Europeans had already moved to America, and Australia...

Yes the west are not the only needers of raw materials, but they need it, and if u dont keep your house in order, they will meddle and get what they want, and u should not blame them for it ....that is statecraft, this is not about emotions or morality...

How has the west not given up on its imperial policies, are there still colonial mindset in Europe? Yes for sure, but what imperial policies are bn passed? That EU minister made such statement, what difference does it make, i bet u probably did not even understand the context...but thats not my problem,
Please state EU imperialist policies...

You are so funny and need to be schooled , before the advent of Chinese loans, who were the major funders of African economies and aid to Africa...? Is there any loans that don't come with string attached? Is the Chinese loans free of commitment by the receiving nation? Will an African country have diplomatic relations with Taiwan or vote against Chinese interest in UN resolution issues?
Is Nigeria not the main obstacle to the Eco? Do u think it is easy to form a single currency? U go just dy talk nonsense...the EU dat is working today, do u know how difficult it was for them to get to this point?
Yes African cooperation with Russia and China is very important....
Lol u talk of extermination, is the west the only people that are complicit of genocide...how did the Russian population extend to central asia? How is the Han ethnicity of China the dominant ethnic group in China today? What are turks doing in their present location today?
What crimes have the west commited that others have not done....this is not an emotional or moral issue, people will do anything they can do for self preservation...

I don't argue with ignorant people. But I'm sure as job continue to learn your eyes will open. If you believe the west is good for you fine....I don't enter into unnecessary arguments.

Minsk24:
The west are not saints, there are not perfect, but they have created a good world order which is still evolving... You have to understand especially from the European perspective, they lack raw materials and will get them by any means, does that make them evil? Shouldn't it make the black man sit up and organize his own House?
Please give examples of the Soviet union arming African countries to liberate from colonialism apart from Algeria and Namibia....yes the Soviet union did lend a hand, but do not over-exaggerate their involvement or see it as a form of goodwill...
Soviet Union involvement in Africa grew after countries gained independence and they were looking to expand their influence, this resulted in proxy wars with the USA, who were seeking to gain same thing...
The same Soviet union u are praising that are saints was at the time expanding and subjugating central asian and eastern Europe...
Look at issues involving foreign powers from a multi-dimensional point of view, none of them are perfect, none of them are saint, they only want their strategic interest and influence...

1. Where did I ever State any of them are perfect?

2. I must at least applaud you for listening. Not many have listening skills so we can have a conversation.

3. Let me repeat: Africans were to suffer the same fate as the native Americans and Canadian first nations....these people hv been exterminated. That was the goal of the west in Africa - extermination....I've already said Algeria was to be New France just the same way Britain established New England on native American soil....

The West are not the only needers of raw materials African countries need their raw materials too....the vast majority of African State houses are already in order.....every country has its internal problems.....

My point is the West has not given up its imperial foreign policy just earlier this year the EU Joseoh Borrel said EU is a garden and the rest of the world a jungle....they can't live withouy such imperial notions cos once they stop promoting such, the world will know the truth that Africa and its people are more advanced than Europe....

No one on earth is a Saint....Is it not the west that ties loans to legalization of lgbt and harmful structural adjustment. Is it not France that has fought tooth and nail to prevent the eco currency from taking off to preserve its colonies...I'd suggest you just stop commenting and take some time to listen more.....

Africa's cooperation with Russia and China is here to stay...

You said I should give an example of other countries Russia helped....you only have the audacity to say those because you were not exterminated like the native Indians and were not among the 20 million Congolese killed so i don't blame you...MI must leave now to focus on my job....

NB: Most African countries are signatories in the Non Aligned Movement and are pro themselves however they work with countries that see them as equals...younwill never hear a Chinese or Russian official calling an African a monkey or saying Rissia is a garden and Nigeria a jingle cos it's not their foreign policy.

Morbeta11:
https://www.vanguardngr.com/2023/07/netherlands-lagos-sign-mou-to-create-4000-jobs/

Bad news...around 1665 (not that long ago) dutch savages sailed to South Africa....their goal? To dispossess the natives of their land.....they hv occupied south africa from 1665 to 1994 when SA regained its independence.....

These are the same ppl you are signing MOU with lol.

Minsk24:
Your reasoning is a shame to common sense...
Yes the west has committed atrocities in the past, does that make the east better? Imagine saying the east believe in equality and the west does not...are u normal at all...
What did the Russians do to the circassians?
How did ethnic russian population spread to central asia and other parts of Europe?
The west are not saints, neither are the East...
The conflicts in Africa are multi-layered , there are so many completing interest, there is also failure of government...
Look at mali for example, the bambara people who have been in power have marginalized the northern tuaregs and fulani,...these resentment have fueled conflict which foreign powers have taken advantage of...
People like you will continue to be brainwashed over and over again because u cannot look at an issue from different angles...

These are the problems of the black man: 1. Insult based culture. 2. Whipping up sentiments instead of facing the facts. 3. Laziness/docility e.g. let's just forget about the past and not learn from it culture. 4. Ego based culture.

I won't waste much time il just say it.... there's something called FOREIGN POLICY. There are many Chinese and Russian racists....in fact plenty racists in Russia. But the Russian government foreign policy is not and that's what matters.....The foreign policy of the West on the other hand is imperial. With your mentality this continent will be colonized again. When a black man is told the Soviet Union, Cuba and China helped train African fighters to liberate them from western colonial oppression they dismiss it and still say east and west are same.... For many years I believed the black man was spiritually cursed.... pls don't make me start entertaining such beliefs again. Thus is my last message I won't type more....

Tradepunter2:
It never ends well it's same old same old.... Look at the Sahel region..... All that's common is that they have the balls to take power..... They never ever make any form of change.... It's in the DNA of coup plotters.... Check Africa entire history, nada nada nada...

Nigeria can't experience this because we have grown our signal intelligence capacity.... Directly under the NSA, meaning that joint efforts by DSS and special branch within the NSA will pick it up

Also the rotation of generals and ranked officer's is also solid....

The armed forces are not even with the coup plotters so they are done for.... Just like the fialed Turkish coup..... Niger can't fail because it's our buffer from Libya madness

Read my comments on this page. The coup in Niger is good for Nigeria....the 5000 French soldiers in Niger will hv to go back to France....they are destabilizing Niger overtly/covertly which also affects Nigeria.

austinleo38:
Bro! Since all these bullshit. Na only ur comment don make sense to be to be honest. I no understand why people dey support east over west or west over east. One feel like say den don loose out dey use Africa in this modern world for bait and stupid people dey think say west na the bad guy wen even east also na war be den food. SMH.

Belgium killed 20 million or so in Congo. Why because they wanted to establish Beligian Congo. They wanted to exterminate the people just as they exterminated the Cherokees, metis, innuit etc in North America. You no longer hear about these tribes because most of them hv been killed.

Around 1908 after murdering over 1 million Namibians in attempt to exterminate the population and populate the territory with Germans and create German South West Africa, the German government took back skulls of Namibians back to Germany to conduct experiments to see if they are sub humans/monkeys.... this is revent history not even up to 150 yrs old.

These are the same governments that pretend they want to help Africa lol.. .they are only helping their colonial interests.

The foreign policy of the west is still colonial though they hide it....they sneaky as fu*k

austinleo38:
Bro! Since all these bullshit. Na only ur comment don make sense to be to be honest. I no understand why people dey support east over west or west over east. One feel like say den don loose out dey use Africa in this modern world for bait and stupid people dey think say west na the bad guy wen even east also na war be den food. SMH.

The cimment doesn't make sense. The Africans were to suffer the same fate as the native Americans but were fortunate in that the process was interrupted. It was Cuba, the Soviet Union and China that were main external partners that helped to defeat the colonial regime of Ian Smith in Zimbabwe and the colonial regimes in SA and across other African countries....

Colonialism has not ended it was only interrupted..BBC and CNN are their main tools which they use to make you feel less....their whole future depends on making you feel less and they will never agree to human equality cos once they do their power fades and the truth about Africa will come our that Africa isn't the picture western media paints.....the west stole African culture. They believe Algeria is New France similar to New York/@New Jersey. The Germans still believe Namibia is their territory....Portugal and Denmark still patrol nigerias shores with their ships....they believe they own lagos since lagos is a Portuguese name.....these are just few examples....there's a lot more but too tired to type....

The very fact the East believes in equality of all humans while the west does not has already endeared me to the east. However you should understand Nigeria and many African countries are officially non aligned including ones that engage Russia.

Bazoum is pro west which i think is part of the reason he was removed.

France illegally patrols Malian skies. French soldiers support jihadist groups which is why they were booted out of Mali.

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They are not expatriates - they are immigrants. emancipate yourself from mental slavery....the europeans are immigrants in Africa....

iwaeda:
https://punchng.com/nigeria-has-disappointed-africa-world-obasanjo/

The same Obasanjo that wrote a court in UK seeking leniency for a convicted criminal (Ekweremadu) is talking?

Rostikol:
HONESTLY...CAN YOU IMAGINE THE EFFRONTERY OF THESE COLONIALISTS?

THESE THIEVES STORING AND BENEFITING FROM HUNDREDS OF TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN LOOTED AFRICAN WEALTH AND TREASURE FROM THE LAST 600 YEARS TILL DATE, ARE NOW SAYING WHAT?

I DIDN'T EVEN BOTHER READING THE REST OF THE DISGUSTING ARTICLE.

WHEN THEY RETURN ONE-TENTH OF WHAT THEY STOLE FROM AFRICA TO MAKE THEMSELVES STUPENDOUSLY 'RICH', THEN WE CAN LISTEN.

SPIT.

You know history very well.... but then again African people enables the theft....

peekspot:
https://www.thecable.ng/reps-panel-calls-for-swift-action-against-losing-another-territory-to-cameroon/amp

Why is a land matter in Africa being decided in Europe? What happened to ECOWAS and AU court. Black man dey f up I swr

god2good:
Beauty is useless compare to character/ mindset/believe/behavior

It's like you married a very fine girl?

Omoawoke:
In my next life, I’d be yoruba. The most entertaining and successful tribe in Africa
They are everywhere, book, money, politics, tech , finance… na only them

You are not a tribe. You are a "people".....tribe is colonial

poshestmina:
They keep forcing emotionally, physically, mentally and sexually underage girls to marry men thrice their ages.

When they get fed up,frustrated and sad about how their lives turn out ,they hate the man , Marriage especially if he's a Domestic abuser.

That girl up there looks like who damned all consequences.
Most likely a case of self defense.

Let her be vindicated or jailed.
Whichever one she deserves.

21 year old girls should be girlfriends...just enjoy her and leave her for her husband when she is ready to get married at 28...

It's religion and it's texts that men follow to go for the young ones....but religion don clear for my eyes....

I'd marry the 28 yo to 30 year old then keep the 21 yo as a girlfriend...or just hv a child with the 21 year old without marriage....

It's nature that drives men to hot young gals....it will never change....

It's nature that drives women that want to hv babies to wealthy men or at least financially stable men....this will never change too....

VeryStingyMan:
It's not just colonialism though. The ambitions of the west has led to the development of their various countries and ease of life in general. From the days of Nikola Tesla to now, when modern day scientists are actively searching for the cure to cancer. When humans explore, this triggers curiosity. This then raises questions – what, why, how etc. These questions then lead to discoveries. This is simply what Africans lack, curiosity!

If Africans were that advanced, then there wouldn't be the talk of colonialism today. Europeans had better weapons, better equipment and better supplies than Africans which made colonialism all very easy.



Ah shit. Here we go again. Please post the real African history and inventions, let me see.



The irony in this. You're literally spitting Pan-Africanist, "white man bad" propaganda.



The same God sold to you by Europeans of which other?

I hope you are not arguing as a competition or as an ego battle. I will only engage if you truly want to know the real truth...the sad thing is the damage that has been done to African minds is extensive; in this vein I agree with you that the africans are a bit too relaxed; they didnt push out their own news media to counter BBC's propaganda.

VeryStingyMan:
It's not just colonialism though. The ambitions of the west has led to the development of their various countries and ease of life in general. From the days of Nikola Tesla to now, when modern day scientists are actively searching for the cure to cancer. When humans explore, this triggers curiosity. This then raises questions – what, why, how etc. These questions then lead to discoveries. This is simply what Africans lack, curiosity!

If Africans were that advanced, then there wouldn't be the talk of colonialism today. Europeans had better weapons, better equipment and better supplies than Africans which made colonialism all very easy.



Ah shit. Here we go again. Please post the real African history and inventions, let me see.



The irony in this. You're literally spitting Pan-Africanist, "white man bad" propaganda.



The same God sold to you by Europeans of which other?

I'm going to address your points directly...


The ambitions of the west has led to the development of their various countries and ease of life in general....

>> it's not a western thing it's a global thing....any ambitious country can succeed in anything. Russia first sent a man to the moon....western europe has not. Madagascar found the cure for covid-19 before western europe...for you to make an informed input you need to visit various African countries....you can't conclude the west is more ambitious than africa based on western media and propaganda....of course they will glorify themselves and say they are more ambitious than you. Every year tens of thousands of Nigerians return back to Nigeria from Europe America etc....they have realized the truth: overall Nigeria and Africa is better.

This is simply what Africans lack, curiosity!


That's according to the West. For colonization to happen, the colonizers must convince you that they are better than you. In fact, the LIFE of the collective west is dependent on the continued propagation and belief of this theory that Africans lack curiosity, are primitive, are lazy etc. That's why the BBC invests millions of pounds yearly filming poor kids (never mind the same poor kids are found in Budapest, Warsaw, Berlin etc. This is further reinforced in the colonial education curriculum that teaches Mungo Park discovered River Niger....I want to state now that Einstein Faraday and all those scientific laws named after Europeans were either stolen inventions or renamed inventions or claimed inventions. Know this and know peace.... keep an open mind and listen and think about what I just told you. In many cases the western brainwashing is complete and many Africans are permanently mentally enslaved.

At this point I want to draw parallels between colonization of north America and Nigeria/Africa....the British called native Americans savages unable to think, who lack curiosity etc and who needed to be "civilized". After erasing the culture of 150 First nations in Canada thru genocide, forced assimilation etc they came down to Africa around 1856. They repeated the same script here: Nigerians and Africans are savages who need to be civilized who also lack curiosity and are lazy etc. That's the colonial script you hv believed. I've already told you a self sufficient person (Africa) doesn't need to start colonial wars - only barbarians (Europe) do that due to their poverty.

I was once like you till it clicked one day and I understood what's happening/happened....

Listing the African inventors and philosophers will take too long but over time I will on this thread....just don't hv the time for today but over time I will....

VeryStingyMan:


Pan-Africanists continue to lie to themselves in order to justify their centuries of backwardness. Being unambitious ultimately led to the easy colonization by the French and the British and now, more than 60 years after decolonisation, the continent is yet to fix their problems - tribalism, corruption, extreme poverty, incompetent and greedy leadership, lawlessness and severely undereducated masses not to mention the fact that the lack of ambition still plaguing the continent till date.

I mean, why do you live in modern houses and not your "aesthetically appealing" round huts? Why do you use smartphones rather than depend on town criers? You don't prefer your ways, you simply lack the capability to evolve and make it better by yourself!



Think long and hard about this... What do you think any country on the African continent would be able to "bring to the table" in the next 2 centuries? Africans elect populist leaders who have no plan to develop their respective countries and when they're exposed as failures, they suddenly take a pan-Africanist, anti-west stance and soon become continental heroes - like the classic case of Museveni in Uganda.



I'd argue there's more freedom in the west. Hell, there's more freedom in North Korea but ok

that the lack of ambition still plaguing the continent till date.
Western Europe's "ambition" for colonial and imperial power is motivated by their poverty....its not because they are more ambitious....a hungry thief will be more motivated to colonize than a well to do man (Africa). There was simply no need for Africa to embark on any colonial projects because it is self sufficient and was already advanced in mining technology et al prior to what colonialists will tell you.

@round huts
>> Round huts are found not just in Africa but in many other places. By the cement was invented outside of western europe because they do not hv limestone and do not need cement that's why today most of their houses are made of dry wall and bricks.


What do you think any country on the African continent would be able to "bring to the table" in the next 2 centuries?

The history of Africa as you know it is a false history taught by colonialists....a lot of African history has been erased....but from the evidence we hv its Europe that we should be asking what they bring to the table. From telling false histories to renaming inventions and claiming African inventions as theirs to renaming African cities, Africans are the smart ones contrary to what many hv been programmed to believe.....it takes careful study of the real African history to see the real truth.

For example Einstein and Faraday only claimed what had been invented centuries earlier as theirs....

And the history you know is the one and propaganda told by Europeans to glorify themselves...

May God open your eyes to see the truth....

blowjohn:
Wud UK do same if they were American citizens?

There is something about this trial that doesn't seem right.

This is the first of such a case in the hsitory of the UK.

The guys organs were not takes after all.


I have a feeling the sentencing was politicized

You may be right but the negro needs to be taught a lesson to sit in their own country and develop it and this judgement serves that purpose....

sprints1:
Anybody giving 100% to any organization in Nigeria is foolish and a nincompoop. I can't imagine working slave labor for just 200-1000 USD a month that can't guarantee me financial freedom. When I die to replace me no hard. To see pension or gratuity na wahala. Give them 70% then reduce am to 35% then use the rest to bolster yourself and help your life. So far I am bringing what you pay me to the table. You give me #100k/month job I give u in return.

What if you are fired You should give your 100% to a job no matter the pay....

Rita002:
May ur life be quenched into thin air. May u suck d dust of the land. May ur clothes fry up like rags and may ur penis become as shrivel and weak as an earthworm. May u lose ur penis in shame. May ur penis lose its strength in few months. May infection dry u up while u suck ur bones n flesh for fo

Wetin this one dey yarn

Rita002:
Men are not the prize. A man will do worse in dat scenario. A man will even stab n kill anyone he catches with his wife. Men are even worse wen it comes to jealousy. So plz shut ur dirty mouth. Men can never be the prize. Woman are the prize. U go heaven n earth to impress us so dat we can look ur way, u still have to do ceremony and pay bride price to marry us, and u still have to keep impressing us till ur last breath. So who is the prize? Even in sexual aspect, u have to prove to us dat u re good and not weak. Most of u drink different conceptions just to satisfy out gender not minding ur health. So who is the prize? Tell me.

The bolded only applies to young girls under 30...moreover it isn't the girls themselves that are the prize its the sex the guys hope to get out of the girls that make them do all that....

So men are still the prize....

EBMedia:
https://igberetvnews.com/1444164/angry-woman-stabs-pregnant-co-wife-death-lagos/

And later they will say men are not the prize.

Men are the prize!

Houseontherock1:
Unfortunately for you and to the glory of God, NO, I'm way past that stage where a particular government will affect me or my children! I'm at that stage where I am doing well enough to provide for many people around me without taking the final Japa route! However, I want the best for my country and you can't force me to accept your candidate as the best! I'm convinced about Asiwaju being the most manageable of the three popular polithiefcians we had to choose from. Let me live with the consequences!

May you get kidnapped or killed by jihadists or kidnappers during the tinubu administration insha Allah. Amin. Bashir.

ukaface:
So
When you know she can’t, why make it a big deal? Why make it seem like ladies are doing the wrong thing?

She can't but wants to reap where she didn't so....they go for rich made men and reap where they didn't soa....the men they are to build with, they reject

ukaface:
Men enjoy and need sex more than women oga.
Again, the man enjoys free p.ussea to be kpanshing.

Don’t make it seem like men that gets married are stupid for marrying cos in other words you’re trying to say men don’t enjoy anything out of marriage.

Are you married?

Women enjoy sex just as much as men.... no one is saying men are stupid for marrying....

ukaface:
No, you don’t understand my question

How can a lady sow in the life of the man she wants to reap from??

She can't.

Here's some facts men forget:

1. Women get married for specific reasons....its a logical rational decision for them...its not based on romance.

2. Women only get married when their SMV (sexual market value) is about to start plummeting - not all women though.

3. A significant number of women marry for financial security....

ukaface:
So how can a lady sow?
And isn’t the man reaping too? Or is marriage a one sided thing?

A lady can sow by getting a job and supporting herself.

sonature1:
It's quite disturbing the number of likes negative comments attract on Nairaland. Nigerians are terribly sick!

Well said! Not only are they terribly sick but they think everything is a joke/meme.

Tinubu and APC are very smart....they have studied Nigerians and know Nigerians are too docile and will never revolt. Thats why they do as they like. Nigeria needs revolutionary militant groups to stop the excesses of APC, Tinubu and co through the use of force....