₦airaland Forum

Kaycee54321:
Pretty sure this "colonial education curriculum" is also the reason we're not currently communicating in our native dialects...

You are right. but its not so much about not speaking in native dialect its more about the youth seeing their native dialects as archaic and british accent as posh, refined and civilized - many african minds have been colonized....

Kaycee54321:
Being better at philosophy is a subjective opinion, hence cannot be objectively argued.

I quoted Plato because that particular work applied to the point I was trying to make.

Fine. I feel that Africans do not know the many philosophers they have and I think its embarrassing always quoting european philosophers; this is due to a colonial education curriculum.

IbeOkehie:
This is seriously funny. Please there's data about economic conditions in Nigeria, this isn't like 25 years ago. Let's quote some of them offhand -

* Only about 0.5% of Nigerian workers earn over ₦200K per month, about 95% of bank accounts contain less than ₦500K. Only 7% of Lagosians have running water in their homes...imagine the rest of the country. Life expectancy in Nigeria is about 60 years for men. That last one has been hitting home for me recently because I personally know 5 relatively healthy acquittances who left the USA & UK to live in Nigeria in the last 4 years and died from one emergency health issue or another. One just happened in Lagos LAST WEEK, the man had a heart attack and was stuck in traffic for 6 hours and died inside the car taking him to the hospital. This is someone that many of his friends had repeatedly advised him to come back to the USA. It just makes concrete the reality that choosing between Nigeria & the UK can be a matter of life and death.

I used to be a hospital lab technician. There's something called platelet concentrate that is sometimes used for babies born with some sort of haemoatology problem. When I moved back to Nigeria in 2011, I was at the FMC Hospital in Owerri when a child was born. The doctor on duty determined that the baby needed platelet concentrate. It was not available ANYWHERE. And the baby died. This is a product we used to throw away like water at my USA workplace because it has an 8 hour shelf life. The standing procedure is to have it available at all times just in case of a neonatal crisis. But in Nigeria it was NOWHERE to be found. The doctor cried and I cried too. It's not that babies don't die in the USA or UK, it's that they don't die cheaply. By the way, the son of a serving Federal Minister also died of the same thing some years ago, he had a crisis and needed a blood product that wasn't available in Nigeria. He died in an air ambulance on the way to the UK. Unfortunately I can't put their grief out here in public, but it's a lesson on how precarious life has become that someone so highly placed can't even save themselves. So much for living the good life in Nigeria.

Simply put, your chances of staying alive are higher in the West, period.



Yes there are people earning millions of dollars in Nigeria, I know a few field engineers in the oil & gas industry or top bankers or people working remotely for big IT companies. Yes, they are there but the more important point is that the numbers of such people in Nigeria are so few as to be negligible. They're a statistically insignificant number and their situation is getting more precarious with each passing year.

I know TWO highly placed families in Nigeria where both parents and ADULT CHILDREN and spouses and grandchildren have moved from Nigeria into the town where I live. These are people who live in Banana Island, Ikoyi, Maitama, who work at major oil & gas companies, banks and are in politics. They pulled up EVERYTHING and abandoned Nigeria. I don't live in a major city so imagine the number that are migrating to London, New York or Houston. The last push for one of them was being REPEATEDLY robbed in Abuja after fleeing the same problem in Lagos years before. The woman told me this personally.

These are people who know what is going on in Nigeria and they're leaving! It's not always about MONEY, it's also about quality of life and peace of mind. The elites of Nigeria - the perm secs, federal directors, academic elites, business moguls, top politicians - are a disgrace to the Black Race. I like the way things are going now, many of them are being forced to flee the results of their own idiocy, now in the West they have to rub shoulders with their victims on an equal basis. And everything I see tells me it's going to get worse.



What is the deception? It's telling that ORDINARY LOWER MIDDLE CLASS life depicted on Facebook is viewed as exaggerated luxury by Nigerians. I know many Nigerians who have been working low wage jobs for over 25 years and they all own homes in good neighborhoods and MULTIPLE cars and their kids are university graduates working good jobs. Most if not all of them have scrimped and saved to build homes in Nigeria too.
However much they spend in UK it's still enough to send plenty of money to their relatives in Nigeria.

This very topic is what brought me to Nairaland. I was SHOCKED to read people mocking the standard of living in the Anglo countries. I came to the USA with zero money, my plane ticket was bought with borrowed money. I started life working illegally in a restaurant. I know for a fact that even back then, working in that restaurant, I was better off than 99% of people in Nigeria. Summary - if I can live a good life in the West, most people can achieve it too.

I'm in the Nigerian community, I hear of people moving to UK all the time, I see people coming into my community every week, every month both illegally and legally, married with children and single, rich and poor. Even when they're starting from scratch, within a year or two they have fully paid off used car they couldn't dream of having in Nigeria, they live in apartments - maybe with a single roommate - with running water, flush toilet and 24 hour electricity. Breathing fresh air with no dust and generator fumes. They can walk the street with confidence, no police checkpoints, they can drive for hours on the highway with no fear of being waylaid by armed robbers or kidnapped. Those are things that are not guaranteed even in Lekki Phase Zero or VGC.

A Professor, a scion of one of the most prominent families in my ancestral village, was kidnapped right in front of his house in Nigeria. The kidnappers collected their 40million and still killed him.

Good thing too Nigerians going to the West now are learning to do manual work like landscaping, computer wiring/network setups, auto mechanics and mobile car wash, cooking food and selling from their homes, sewing clothes & shoe repair, so having papers is not even as much a problem as before. Honestly I wish I had such skills when I arrived here, life would have been a lot easier. There's a woman who sells Nigerian food that we patronize often, we buy like one week worth of food at a time. When you go to pick up at her home you can see they're VERY BUSY. There's one or two more people that have opened walk up - carry out restaurants. They cater parties too. A Nigerian mobile car washer cleaned my car last week, he came to the office and did it. Who needs Green Card to do that?

Nigeria today is not a good place to live for the VAST MAJORITY and it must be a terrible burden to even be rich in the midst of such misery. Hopefully it will get better but all this fakery about life in Nigeria must stop. Y'all know you're not real.

I like the bolded bits of your post and the part about platelet....see the problem in Nigeria is that no one takes their job seriously and those that don't aren't fired....whoever is responsible for making the platelet available hv at the back of their mind that they can always say "I'm sorry sir" or "we are very sorry sir" and get away with their negligence....recently I saw a hospital receptionist sleeping on duty and such a person was excused by management. What about Rico the big brother housemate, it was the same needless death and even the management will be trying to cover up and save face.... so the problem is lack of seriousness, accountability and failure of management to fire staff and only being concerned about money.

Kaycee54321:
People who currently live abroad, telling others there's no point in migrating abroad is nothing short of witchcraft.

People living abroad and preaching to those living in a hell hole to escape reminds me of Plato's Allegory of the Cave....

If selling off properties & migrating is like playing Russian roulette, using all your money to run a business in Nigeria is like catching grenades with your bare hands...

You left all the African philosophers more learned than Plato and are quoting Plato....African philosophers are much better.

1Sharon:
It's almost like the UK born black ppl are disappearing or being bred out and being replace by immigrants. Immigration is the highest its ever been in the UK.

Import the 3rd world become the 3rd word.

Only the rich and middle class Nigerians can enjoy Nigeria.

The poor desperate Nigerians are the ones saying japa

Why would a rich person leave Nigeria when he can afford to live with dignity.

If you are rich in Nigeria, why would you go and hustle to live in the West?

Britain whites is the 3rd world

Discountsempai:
The way the Anglican church is run worldwide, each of the chapters are independent of the other. A decision taken in Canterbury won't affect Nigeria.

What this could lead to is a division between the conservative church (mostly third world) and the liberal church (mostly first world)

Has ur mind been so colonized that you accept the 3rd world label?? Britain and France and United States are 3rd world countries tho UT mind has been conditioned not to believe it.....

Majesty2:
Tinubu will never participate in any fvcking debate with anybody and he is the next president, any wailer who wan wail should wail till he/she dies

you must be cursed spiritually....

HITsquad:
Hmmm What's the catch? That's the question we should be asking... Instead of celebrating. Cos US is alot of things but obviously not a 'good Samaritan'

America is a blood sucking parasite... As far as they are concerned? Nothing goes for nothing!

If you think they care about us that much to spend their taxpayers money on our "Negroid" ass and gain nothing greater in return then you should think again.

I can't trust the west for any reason.

From slavery to colonization... etc They have proven to be vultures that only survive off other people's carcass!

So whats the catch?

You are well informed....remember when they predicted Nigeria will break up whether na 2005 or 2015 can't remember.....then they started funding boko haram reportedly. It's reported that in Nigeria they fund boko haram and iswap. In mali France funded and secretly supports the terrorist groups there according to Malian authorities....in Syria the west supports terrorist groups there....

The most shocking thing is "terrorists" almost always only spring up in African countries making progress....Nigeria and South Africa the two largest economies in Africa incidentally have "terrorists."...hmm

blueAgent:
Apart from South Africa and maybe Egypt and Libya which other country is industrialised in Africa?

Nigeria is actually very industrialized but the industries are agro-allied...

captianfreeman:
A responsible man is a man who is ready to take and square up with the needs and responsibilities of his household. His inability to adequately meet these needs and responsibilities does not in anyway make him an irresponsible man.

Irresponsibility in the other hand is the act of dodging,evading,running away or refusal to accept responsibilities.

From this, we see that in most marriages, females are the irresponsible ones since they always dodging,evading,running away or refusal to accept responsibilities and try to dump it all on the guy...

lhordspy:
One very good thing about the Russia-Ukrainian war is that it opened the eyes of so many countries to see the Un!ted state for what they really are: Hypocrites and Evil

Imagine the turkish interior minister likening the US condolences to "the murderer arriving as one of the first at the scene of the crime."

It says alot about how glaring the evil dealings and intentions of the Un!ted state are around the world. And thank God everyone is coming to terms with the fact.

The Western European is a savage in need of native american and african civilization - unknown author.

Tekzyflex:
I wish I didn't....I am just bearing somelse burden. I would have achieve more as a single man than being married to a leech.

She dey chop ur moni bah? Stop giving her money....

abc115:
Bola Tinubu Donates N40 million to flood victims in Edo on Sunday.

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2022/11/tinubu-donates-n40m-to-flood-victims-in-edo/amp/

Sharing money means nothing...it's the heart behind the money that matters....

Optimist01:
May we all be alive to witness Nigerias greatness

Amen!

Topsoccer:
Coming soon



Portugal vs Nigeria



Date: 17/11/2022



Venue: Lisbon



Time: 7:45pm

A match with a colonizing nation....

blueAgent:
Is like the only achievement you havecever done in life ,is that you migrated or was fortunate to be born in US or wherever? is how inferior you feel that you sing it and wear it as a badge, I live in the US.

Do you think US is what it is toady becos of blacks and ppl like you, who neither know there left from right?
Left for blacks and women, US would have been a 3rd world country just like Haiti and Liberia and Africa.

You hate the whites so much , but cannot do without their wigs,artificial nails,eyelashes, phones e.t.c.
Yiu just a lowlife hypocrite.

I would comfortably feed you in Us dollars.
Clown.

You are brainwashed by the western european savages....

SIRTee15:
African leaders should stop all this begibegi, rather they should come together n develop the continent.
If u guys think western nations with their semi-comatose economy can afford 100 billion dollars to give Africa, then greedy African leaders are sitting on a dung. That money is a mirage, it will never come.

Fire up your coal and natural gas, fvcking industrialise the continent. Don't wait for any white man to tell u what to do. Going green is a good idea, but not at the detriment of development .

If anything we should be leading in the renewable energy crusade, look at solar energy wasting away in Sahara desert. That region is a gold mine if harnessed properly. The heat from Sahara can provide electricity to whole Africa, we can also export the solar energy to rest of the world. That's how u replace natural gas and coal.
Africa is too blessed, we just have morons at the helm of affairs.

the western european savages understand the bolded which is why they have reverted back to burning coal....the western european is a savage in need of native american and african civilization.

backtovillage:
Which development are you talking about?
This should be very simple
Developing nation will always be developing nation(africa) Africa has always being begging rich country no b now. When the rich country give them money, their leader take it back to the rich countries to invest.
Developed nation will always be develop nation.

That is according to western media... A lot of their donations and "aid" are unsolicited.

adioolayi:
Nigeria is stalled on industrialization....We are not a Nation you can call Industrialised Nation...

We still import toothpaste, toothpick, handkerchief, textiles, tyres, iron rods, furniture, leather and leather materials not to mention refined crude products.

Sadly, we have the raw materials...but no industry to produce them..

We never reach!



https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2021/10/03/nigeria-at-61-the-need-for-industrialisation/amp/

I agree but many other African countries (not Nigeria) are industrialized.

adioolayi:
I stand with President Muhammadu Buhari on this one...


The west should carry their matter for their own head....We are yet to attain industrialization....we contribute less to the effects not climate change...fund out infrastructure, education, health as an incentives for us to stop activities, which you have used in the past to develop your own Nations and now you think are detrimental to the environment.


Bola Tinubu said something like this and many called him names..


African leaders should riseup to this perceived inequalities.

We are not yet to attain industrialization, we have already attained industrialization.

joyandfaith:
Russia and China would be part of Scramble for Africa 2. If there is another world war, Nigerians would be enlisted in British or American army. Colonial masters are no longer holding Africa down. blame African politicians for our woes.

Who told you colonial savages are no longer holding Africa back. Google " Franceafrique"

Russia and China are allied with Zimbabwe and many African countries... and they both helped us fight the colonial savages...

naptu2:
Remembrance Day is a memorial day observed in Commonwealth of Nations member states since the end of the First World War to remember the members of their armed forces who have died in the line of duty.

Remembrance Day is observed on November 11th in most countries to recall the end of hostilities of World War I on that date in 1918. Hostilities formally ended "at the 11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th month", in accordance with the armistice signed by representatives of Germany and the Entente between 5:12 and 5:20 that morning. ("At the 11th hour" refers to the passing of the 11th hour, or 11:00 am.).

Wreath laying ceremonies are held around the world to mark the occasion. In Nigeria, Remembrance Day was previously held on November 11th, but it was moved to January 15th in the 1970s to mark the end of the Nigerian Civil War.

Many Nigerian soldiers fought and died in the First and Second World Wars and some of them were buried at military cemeteries in Lagos, Burma, India and other parts of the world.

The British Deputy High Commissioner to Nigeria, Ben Llewellyn-Jones, visited that military section of the Atan Cemetery, Yaba, to lay a wreath. The Commonwealth section of the military section of the cemetery is maintained by the Commonwealth Graves Commission, which is responsible for maintaining cemeteries of Commonwealth and British Empire soldiers who died in the wars.

Go away stupid deputy high commissioner we are not a colony of Britain. Western European savages

fluffybaby:
Keep blowing big grammar. You want a woman that will serve you but you don't want to put anything down to keep her interested. Tradition really did you men huge favour if not many of you will die single and alone cos your women would not endure your BS till old age if not for societal pressure designed to keep women in check.

@bolded Marriage has evolved into a partnership.... no one serves any one else.... she has no choice but be interested cos she would hv aged a bit and would no longer be attracting much guys a few years into the marriage

LILTJAY:
https://www.lindaikejisblog.com/2022/11/syrian-refugee-sentenced-to-more-than-17-years-in-prison-for-plotting-to-bomb-nigerian-church-in-us.html

United States and their evil. Syria is struggling for Liberation from them and so they must string Syrians along

dre11:
Top South African Lawmaker, Zanele Sifuba Accuses Nigerian Governor, Douye Diri Of Leaking Her Sex Tape, Describes Him As Her Lover



https://saharareporters.com/2022/11/11/top-south-african-lawmaker-zanele-sifuba-accuses-nigerian-governor-douye-diri-leaking

Previous thread https://www.nairaland.com/7424319/nigerian-accused-releasing-sextape-zanele

Divide and conquer of Africa's two largest economies by the West

fluffybaby:
Good. Happy you found the one. I wonder if I take her into my inner chamber and ask her how she feels about your mentality towards financially providing for the family , what will she say? my dear, I know of ladies who wish their men were providers. They do what they have to do but inside them, they wish things were different. You are lucky you married a woman who sticks around because of what people would say

What the females fail to realize I that there is no altruism.... male provision isn't altruistic - there must be something in return....

Penguin2:
But you needed US and UK to raise an alarm before you could do it?

I’m sure that if US and UK hadn’t talked, you people would have submitted Aso Rock keys to terrorists.

This is the disaster that Tinubu helped foist on Nigeria and now he wants to replace the same disaster.

Ndi ala!

Are Nigerians not in vigorous support of Tinubu?

Zabiboy:
In the past century or so, men were actually providers and they were ok( not necessarily happy) with it. Same way the other gender was ok (not neccesarily happy) with staying at home.
In recent times, the other gender evolved and no longer want to do those things, which to me is 100% fine. My surprise is why men dont want to evolve themselves. Why they are still keeping to their end of the bargain when the people they are dealing with are no longer interested in keeping to theirs.
Men simply have to evolve... But they cant because they cant control their urge for s3x and there lies the opposite genders' biggest leverage..

Men keep to their end of the bargain because they are threatened with Holy Books e.g. if you don't provide God will judge you and you are going to hell....

As for ur last paragraph that's for the monogamous guys...if I'm chasing 100 girls at the same time, the sex leverage of the females reduces....

fluffybaby:
See his mouth as he is talking like he is making sense
Did I tell you to give random women you aren't married to money? I clearly said get a house maid. That's what you need with your current mindset. Get one and have peace. She will work to keep your home clean, take care not to disturb your emotions (to save her job), respect you like a boss and will be financially responsible for herself and her family from her pay. Is that a bad advice? If you do it maid with benefits you will get the pussy as often as needed without questions when you bring another chick home
Look aburo, I don't have the nerves to discuss fully functional grown-up issues with you. Look for the woman that will fit into your mould and live with her. Now, you can run along and don't forget to be a good boy.

Una go just open una mouth dey talk nonsense....I'm married...my wife works and makes her own moni....and doesn't stress me financially....I don't need to bring many chick's home....its a simple ask....no woman should stress me financially....

Tonnyray:
And in over a 100 years of this civilization as we know it people are yet to conduct credible research to confirm this ba? factoring the ALMIGHTY MARRIAGE INDUCED FINANCIAL STRESS
I forgot research is only conducted in the matrix, here we rely on individual observations and directives from ubunja and his alternates.
Same folks that are quick to bandy research stats that suit their skewed narratives.
Clowns.

There's ample research evidence it's the time I don't hv to start pulling it up.

Tonnyray:
Pure puerile emotionalism. I expected better mate.
If you are versed in the Nigerian sociocultural context most single girls often lament that their married female friends and colleagues immediately shut them out of their social life. With women there is that clear-cut social distinction between the 2.
If you married a woman that's still partying and hanging out with girls then guess whose fault it is. Definitely not mine
Practically every guy either played or currently plays football to some degree so I naturally homed in on that. It was what the discussion arose from. I deal with the norm. For you to start bringing up oil rig workers, long distance truck drivers, 30 storey-building cleaners is mere straw manning mate. You can definitely do better than that.
There are jobs that are risky we all know that. There are jobs that take men away from home, we all know that too. Those in those jobs know what they're getting into. Responsible men make the necessary adaptations to arrive at the best outcomes. Permit me to say it still does not guarantee things will not suffer on the Homefront especially as regards bonding with the kids. It is why slayqueens (who suck at keeping the homefront) are highly vilified everywhere as unsuitable for marriage.

So much for perceptions, let us argue with facts and data. Bring up research findings that prove your continuous assertion that single men are happier, healthier, more fulfilled, live longer, less likely to develop HBP, stroke etc. than their married counterparts This is the real crux of the matter. Let us argue with verifiable research findings. I'm ready when you are.

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fluffybaby:
So the era of I feed you and provide for your needs has passed now.
What if she can provide direction and overall leadership for herself na? You think wives don't contribute to husband's leadership directions as often as it is sought? You don't seem to realize that God gave women wisdom to direct and lead too. You seem to think that all women are empty in mental area while all men are full of wisdom to direct and lead.
Anyways, if you want someone who will work for her keep while giving you leadership and directorial respect, na housegirl sure pass. Get a maid and enjoy being a boss.

At the bolded, yes because the incentives to do that are no longer there....you females fail to understand that men aren't fools either. You will see a mature woman who graduated from school with work experience or a fully grown WOMAN (not girl), demanding feeding and providing for her needs....the woman must be kidding....that demand is called FINANCIAL STRESS. See bah, go and demand upkeep from a guy and see wat you are going to get..guys no longer want undue financial stress that sends them to early Graves....Go and work and make ur own money and don't be a burden