₦airaland Forum

ganisucks:
https://punchng.com/strikell-add-to-hardship-n494000-minimum-wage-unrealistic-says-lp/

I really don't want to believe that this is coming from the party that Peter Obi stood as a Presidential aspirant.
It is very very unbelievable.

[quote author=TonyeBarcanista post=130283697][/quote]Certain times when we see certain ideologies and write up, we just believe this persons are being soonsored by the government.

The so called inflation that's existing what is the cause of it now that the minimum wage has not been increased.

Even if you say that the NLC is not reaonable why dont you propose a reasonable amount to be paid as minimum wage and kindly do the breakdown into how it would be spent.

Just for a 30 day period and for a single individual with no one depending on him/her.

Transport
Toiletries
Feeding
Utilities
Medical


You can add more

triplechoice:
The question is, will the government be able to afford the cost of sacking 70% of those in the civil service?

The public service is not like the private sector where it's easy to hire and fire as you like.Civil servants are under contract with the government .So for you to sack them ,you will have to pay huge compensation which will amount to what you will use for paying them for about 5 years or more.

Definitely the government will have to downsize but they also do not need to do such thing. They only need to deploy the civil servants to where the work to do it and not keep them muddled together in a place where no work is and many can be re-assigned to other ministries/parastals/agencies/commissions that generate revenue and grow it. There's so much the/any government can(should) do to grow the economy and grow the knowledge base of the country of civil servant.

helinues:
You are not being realistic with your N474k demand. If Labour union table N100k, FG would negotiate to what they, state and Private sectors can pay

Make una be reasonable for once

If you were the NLC leader how much do you think would be a realistic minimum or living wage and as you quote that amount kindly itemize it as to how it would be spent on a 30 day plan.....

Feeding....
Transport
Toiletries
Utility bills

You can add more.
Note that this is just for an individual without dependent.

Ezeama400:

Reported cases of corruption should not be used as yardstick to ascertain that a State is the (most) corrupt .
The measure to use is the amount of judgment gotten from a competent court of law on the corruption cases brought before it and not frivolous and trumped up cases.

HenryThegreat1:
https://dailytrust.com/strike-you-risk-six-months-jail-term-fg-warns-workers/

It's only natural that the AGF is doing what he was employed to do. Nevertheless that aspect of the constitution was not written in respect to an employee who wants to renegotiate (h)is/er wages for they are not withdrawing their services entirely but ensuring that the employer does the needful meeting the circumstances surrounding the present economic situation raping the nation.
It's quiet alarming that around '80's the minimum wage was pegged at about $204 an equivalent of 204 Naira.
Meaning those responsible for ensuring that the economy is working good have been doing no job at all and are being paid for no work.
And the GEJ administration pegged the minimum wage at 18,000 Naira a dollar equivalent of $120. The PMB administration pegged it at 30,000 naira and the equivalent was far far less than $100......

Like I always ask people, what is the proof that the Nigerian economy is improving for the better putting the value of money and it's purchasing power to goods and services judging from the early '80's to this present time?
Putting this into consideration since we have always liked to compare ourselves with European countries and the government did not consult anyone when they increased petrol and electricity tariifs by 200%, etc, etc, etc

UKEMY:
So,the flaunting of their Membership card in the public is fake?
Let's remove Emotions and be sincere and not because of Affiliation for one party or the other.
Politicians should learn to remain with the party that gave them privelege to contest via their platform.

I don't have emotions and don't do sentiments. There are procedures for any politician to be no longer a registered member of a party and that process can never be faulted as far as the law is concerned.

naptu2:
A draft document for the reintroduction of regional system in Nigeria has been circulating online (see pictures below). Who would you pick to lead your region if the bill is actually introduced and if it is signed into law by October 1st, 2024.

(All lists compiled by Imran Muhammad).

I don't expect anyone to mention the name(s) of any of the governors who had governed before.
We should be putting up names of those who are yet to take any form of political appointment or elective positions.

omolola12345:
Please don't say minimum wage again but living wage.

The government can't pay a minimum wage and you want them to talk about living wage !!!
Haba.... Imagine that we like to compare ourselves with nations that pay their civil servants living wage while our public servants earn a living wage far above their counterparts overseas.
The Nigerian government don't care about anyone.

ogododo:
https://dailytrust.com/fg-to-lift-50m-youths-out-of-poverty-minister/

How does the government lift 50 million people out of poverty through such innovations when the government can't pay a good wage/salary to the existing civil servants already employed by them!!!!

Or what is the salary range for someone who is at the poverty line and what salary would it be to ascertain that such is out of poverty?

Jughead29:
To hell with whoever said NLC should be considerate while those fools in offices keeps living large.

60k is just $40, an hourly pay in most poor countries.

If Angola can pay $125. Labour should not accept anything less than 100k

#150K should be the minimum wage.

Image123:
It's not a question of IF. The waters of fuel subsidy and currency flotation have been courageously troubled. The previous presidents didn't have the gumption and bravery to. It's usually a matter of mouth and easy opposition point.
The positives are not going to be felt immediately by the masses. It's immediate for the government because they were the one paying. What's clear though is that the reported volume of importation dropped almost more than half. No such free money to waste again on some group of corrupt importers. Nigeria's fuel price still remains one of the cheapest in Africa. Removal of subsidy is very painful for the common man and i don't take that lightly, so i'll not talk 'hardly' or jokingly about it. To see lasting positive results will take a while. But it's a good step in the right direction. It cannot get worse than it's currently being except there are saboteurs who want to make the government fail. If everyone is patriotic enough, we're almost past the worst phase.

There is no time frame to good things taking a while to occur.
Removal of subsidy is never a bad thing but comparing our prices with that of other African nations is wrong. We do this comparision only when we want to take from the people but when its time to give them what's is due we start kicking them on their goads.
It's abnormal for a Nigeria to first remove subsidy because of those who are benefited from it without first putting the nation's refineries to be operational and functional. The PH Refinery is yet to be working and with no substantive date of operation. We are being told they want to build another smaller refinery close to it. Na laff I dey laff.
The KD Refinery was not built to refine the Nigerian crude but the Venezuelan crude and over the years. So we have refineries not functioning with staffs there in. I guess many of these staffs are children of the high class.
OBJ once said , e go better.........no one knows when that time will truly be seen.

[quote author=fergie001 post=130213574][/quote]Very soon the NJC and the AGF will be calling some judicial officers as to why they were dancing in mire.

ganisucks:
https://guardian.ng/news/kaduna-refinery-not-caliberated-for-nigerias-crude-oil/

Nothing should amaze anyone in this country. A country of laughing ducks.

Image123:
Humanly speaking, only President Tinubu, in agreement with the over 300 members of the legislative arm, and the cooperation of the judiciary have such powers. Sorry, i don't.
As for your wishes, i doubt if the president will go that lane except in his 2nd term. He's obviously dared to trouble many waters already, which many including you are not happy with. Or maybe another person can build on it from 2031.

If the waters are troubled and the results befitting of good benefits are coming forth and those who are the followers are getting the benefits then it is a, well done. We are yet to see true positive change in our economy and development. What we have is superficial artificial thats why anyone can come on board and erode it with just one lousy policy.

Bobloco:
https://punchng.com/minimum-wage-fg-invites-labour-to-resume-talks-friday/?amp

I don't know why the NLC is making this thing look like one serious thing that needs serious negotiation.

Whatever the FG proposes as minimum wage let them come up with a template for it. I guess that's what the budget office does as ot concerns renumeration for the top government officials. So let them do a breakdown for whatever amount they will pay and let it made known on all media platforms. At least we know that all FG establishments are situated in city centers and towns. Let them use the rates of goods and other services as standard prices.

HeadNigga:
This negotiation get end so? Lots of civil servants do nothing at work...lay them off and give them what they are meant to earn in 12 months at a go let them go into farming or any other productive venture. This will have a massive positive impact on the economy. The FG can secure a loan to do this.

Many ideas dey my head but they will never vote for people like me

You may be right about the bolded but also remember that many public servants(ministers, federal high commissioners, directors, SA, SSA, senators from both chambers) likewise don't do anything meaningful when compared to the salaries they are paid. Will it not be better the same is done to them as you have suggested.
We can't be living in a hypocritical world. Why limit it to those whose salaries are meagre.

Image123:
Uhhmmmm, i don't have such powers. Also, be careful what you wish. Most governors and local governments have over the decades shown themselves to be as corrupt and clueless if not more than the Federal. The madness in many states over the years has been staggering, though under reported.

Certainly you have such powers and that I do know.
That wish is what will bring about the needed change, it will only take time and with the writing of new laws, all those who had held elective and gotten appointments in the old system will not be allowed to take any of such positions given the new system to be practiced. New blood , fresh ideas.

Image123:
Good.

Since they thought of reverting over to the old national anthem that they met.
I guess they also met the regional system of government and the regions giving to the cente and not the way it is now.
I think its high time the nation return back to that kind of system only that in this arrangement let all the States be let to control their natural resources with possible the FG having a 5% stake, the SG a 25% stake and the LG 70% stake and both the SG and LG will give some form of tax return to the FG.
Let States within a particular region come up together to form an alliance and do a road map that will promote their economy. The respective River Basin Authorities will be restructured to be more suited and same for the NDM and NDDC can be merged with a definite mandate.
Same can be replicated within other geographical zones to suit their environment and needs.

Image123:
i don't really know. What i know is that this is obviously not trial and error. Tinubu had all these in mind. Stick to the point, i am not the cause of your frustration, don't pour them all out replying me.

Those who are frustrated wrestle power to govern only to find out that they can't really do better than those they used propaganda to remove.

Image123:
This is obviously not trial and error. Tinubu had all these in mind, including changing the national anthem since some years ago. Don't underestimate the president for your own sake, stop listening to wailers.

Will the national anthem change the looting and deception of the political class, will it bring about an increase in minimum wage, will it stop police brutality, will it stop election rigging and ballot snatching, will it stop politicians from buying votes and all manner of cajoling, will it reduce banditry, kidnapping and herdsmen and farmers fighting, will it stop political appointees from behaving arrogantly, will it make the judicial system to be an arm of government that all can trust and not only those who are the highest bidders, will it make the political class of former regimes to return back stolen wealth, will it make all of us to speak the truth irrespective of bloodlines and ties, religious association, tribes, political affiliations all these free from things that permeate our sanctimonious and pontificating lives.

Image123:
Nothing to console, except maybe to console you. The facts are clear, i have said it since the administration started. Any new administration needs at least two years for fair assessment. i have some optimism that Tinubu might be our best president yet. Otherwise, Nigeria might as well be on a long hopeless thing. He's building a solid foundation and i am currently happy with it. Sorry for the inconveniences. It is what it is.

No, I disagree.
If the President can't access himself and tell same the truth that the presidency has not done well within this one year then it is absolutely hypocritical to have stood against the GEJ government in the manner they went about it.
Within one year a good administrator should have gone beyond 45% and within the next one year he would have consolidated on the gains and forged ahead. All we have is a trial.and error approach from persons put in even critical sectors of the economy and they throw blame away from themselves.

A cup of garri---#200
A cup of rice----#400
A cup of beans(white)---#350
3 seed of pepper ---#100
Curry-----#100
Bag of sachet water ------#400
Onion medium size------#300
1 small ice fish smoked -----#1000
1 small catfish smoked----#1200
Big loaf of local bread ----#1800( something that used to be #800)





Any good stuff that the price remains same means the quantity or size has really diminished.
There's no more #100 suya again.

Smithkafors:
Which Atiku. You guys like wasting your votes.

I repeat the only person who can salvage this country is Peter Obi.
He is energetic and gets to the grassroots.

Atiku and Tinubu plays the same type of politics. They don’t get involved In things.

The same way he was energetic and got to the grassroots by not telling the Anambra Electoral body to conduct LGA elections for 8 years and flagarantly abuse power ans constitutional laws by instituting Care Taker committed. A State he governed for same 8 years he could not pay the minimum salary as agreed by the then FG. A State he governed that the only investment he thought to bring into the State was a beer manufacturing company. A State that Medical doctors embarked on a strike for 8 months. A State where he used State funds to put into his family business. A State he sacked ibos from the State Civil just because they were not indigenes of Anambra. A State that still holds the Osu caste system dear to their heart. A State Governor who made it known that the Catholic church is the only one and all other Christian bodies are of no importance to him.

We are yet to see a list of persons that must have benefited from his goodwill while he was a governor and those whom he carried along up the political ladder but there is none to point to. He is a one man show. A one man show can not govern over Nigeria given her nature and people. I would even leave out the words spoken about him by the Rev. Father Mbaka which speaks ill of him.

ogododo:
What is Your Rating of Tinubu's Administration in One Year?

On a general scale it will be absolute ZERO.
But to be fair enough let the ratings be based on the various aspects of the economy or based on the ministerial portfolios including that of the CBN governor and any other appointments as it concerns the economy.

rotadeco27:
Even NLC knows that what they are proposing is not realistic,but with the reality of things , 100k should be the minimum wage. Things have gone 3 times up , from the 30k it should be like 90k, the extra 10k will kind of balance the reactive inflation in response to the increments.

With this proposed #100K and given your place of residence can you put up a template on how this money will be spent in a month and how much is left for savings.
Just do a template for a single person with no dependent.


Food
Transport
Utility bill(Electricity or water)
Tithe/Alms giving
Toiletries
Provisions
Gas refilling or kerosene
Etc, etc, etc

BondRiv:
The NULGE president is not in touch with the plight of his members and the current situation in Rivers State. There are elected chairmen now whose elections were conducted by former governor Wike. However, the present clueless governor Fubara is planning to appoint illegal caretaker chairmen instead of conducting elections. The governor has also the withheld the funds of the councils.

Ehen Ehen
This type of election is what we call appointed election and there were no other political parties in that election.
Its just the same thing that recently happened in the LGA elections in Bayelsa State. It's all appointed election and there were no opposition party to contest with.

82man:
Yeye people, they are the one who voted this bullaba government and Baba go slow government

Insulting the President will not solve the issue. If Peter Obi was elected there will still not be any increment in salary at least we can see how much he paid during his time as governor of Anambra State when compared to other States.
One major factor of any good economy which is foundational knowledge is that you have value for money.and Nigeria lost that literally the last 20 years if you compare us to those nations in Europe we like to compare ourselves with whenever we talk about increase in petrol and electricity.

dollar124:
Everybody seems to be supporting this labour demands now hmmm. My question is how many percent of Nigerian work force are employed by government? Who will pay people under private sector and SME their own minimum wage?
Are we ready for the kind of hyperinflation that will make what we are currently facing look like child's play this labour proposed minimum wage will cause if approved?

Since they have not increased the salary the inflation that the country is experiencing is caused by what, please?

I don't understand why will anyone be complaining about inflation anytime people talk about increase in wages in this nation.
But this same people will come and be comparing the price of petrol and gas, price of electricity, etc,etc, with Nigeria and USA.
We are our own hindrances.

Good01:
https://punchng.com/exclusive-minimum-wage-committee-meeting-postponed-indefinitely/?amp

It's not about NLC going lower and the FG going higher.

It's good the NLC has come up with a template on how they arrive at their proposed figure.

Let the FG also come out with their template on how they arrive at the figure they keep trying to propose.

Because they can't just keep doing this and expect the common man with the lowest grade to accept and be happy. We all know they have a purported template for the large salaries and allowances they give themselves, right from the Presidency, Senators in both chambers, Ministers, Federal High Commissioners, etc, etc......many of which don't even contribute anything meaningful to the Nigerian economy and coupled with they still have the easy access to loot the treasury of the nation.

AngelGabbyShara:
NULGE PRESIDENT HAILS EKITI STATE, TWO OTHERS ON LOCAL GOVERNMENT AUTONOMY

I am not sure this NULGE President understands what it means by LGA autonomy if he is even naming Rivers State as part of those given to it.
Please let those in Ekiti and Jigawa come and confirm this story.....

As far as Rivers State is concerned it's a complete NO, NO.

michlins:
but you believe a donkey spoke and a virgin gave birth? You also believe that the sun stood still and didn't move

Do you know how impossible these things are?

Those things written in the Holy Bible are just impossible things men thought that were made possible by the One True God, The Everlasting Father.